fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 Well, i tried this mod and i like it, very But right after the beginning of the quest "Its a Trap!" i'm stuck, because the whipping scene seems to be "broken" (the same problem sometimes happen in SD+, but there i just need to wait for a minute and the scene will end). I waited for like 5 minutes and had the hope that the scene would end, but nothing happened. ScreenShot66.jpg Is there a way to end this scene? I have some fail safes that I added recently where if the scene does not finish in 10 minutes, the scene is ended and the next one starts. However, I have never been able in like 50 play-throughs been able to get it to fail, so it has never been tested. If the scene fails, it is usually because Archerone cannot move to where he needs to be for the next script part to happen or one of the required alias's was not fillied. The required alias's are you the PC and two female companions. You can pass the entire scene by using the console command setstage 60 on MiaDungeonCapture quest.
fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.) Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is. With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master. To me it's more fun this way. Aqqh and Germanicus are two really smart cookies and who am I to disagree. However, with an MCM option defaulted to off, everyone is happy and it is really easy to do. However, I will not change the dialog, lore or the mods intent to be more "slave like". The problem with having the slaves jump the PC is that its totally out of character and while i know they play their dialogue saying how they can't control themselves etc that's all the warning you seem to get, perhaps its just my game but i seems to get dialogues like the "your not using my body enough" even when i'm using it a lot as i'm training mia so inbetween while she does her thing from the exctasy spell i'm playing with the slaves I do like the concept of them jumping the PC when they get desperate i just think you need to insert something between that and their regular behavior so it doesn't seem so out of character I have drastically reduced when they will jump you. There are three times when it might happen, you change cells and your arousal is above 40 I think or their arousal is above 70. It can also happen, at any time when your or their arousal is high, but no more than once each dialog cycle with defaults to half an hour of game time but can be adjusted up or down with a new menu option to keep quiet. I am hoping that this dialog overhaul will fix a lot of these issues, but we are still testing it.
fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.) Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is. With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master. To me it's more fun this way. They have 'their needs' except they are supposed to be slaves....and having them rape the PC essentially reverses the power balance of the relationship. If I'm the 'Master/Mistress' they are supposed to be subject to my whims, not the other way around. I'm not fond of being publicly raped by characters that are supposed to be my 'slaves,' it just doesn't make sense. For example, I'm spanking (punishing) my slave, and she suddenly puts an end to the punishment and rapes me...why would I allow that...? I see this as essentially a confusion between being a Domm and being a Sub. What you are describing in your post is Submissive behavior on your part -- being 'forced' to fulfill the needs of another -- when your PC/Avatar is supposed to be in the Domm role. I'm not saying to remove it, but making it toggleable would be nice for those of who actually want to play as a Domm. Read yellow text in the post at the top of page 59 to fully understand sex slave lore. Sex slaves need sex like water. It is not a matter of desire, it is a matter of need. They cannot control it, it is part of their nature.
fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 Since Andrew is the only male, I'm happy with him falling in love with the pc and following out of love, there's plenty of duty and such in the rest of vanilla skyrim honestly. I rather like the adoration part of the mod and the bonding and such. i would feel a little ... discomfort playing my male char and knowing hes serving me because of love Ditto.
fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 And while they speak that line that they cant control themselves there could be an option to tell them that this its neither time nor place for this so they have to wait at least a little. I really like this, its now on my todo list.
fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 As for the female content, I'd love Sashalag's idea to allow the player to become a sex slave herself (some of the content for this is actually there already, as you got these nice BDSM scenes). Can make the piercing lockable maybe, so that only the demora can remove it from the player and that it prevents you from wearing any clothing while wearing it? One of the demora could even be turned into a (dominant) follower perhaps? For the more dominant ladies, a couple more guy slaves to pick from would be nice to have, too. And why is Andrew wearing armour anyway? We want our eye-candy, too! Stay tuned, I am working actively on this.
Guest Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Not bound slave, sounds good too. For sell or as gift for Jarl. yes. But sell needs a market place or so, sounds after to much work. Thank you..
aqqh Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 I actually like it that if you don't care enough for them, they get..errrm...more insistent to get their needs satisfied. I wouldn't want it disabled completely. BUT! I felt it happened a bit too often. With Jenn at my side, I literally couldn't walk from one end of Mia's Dungeon to the other without her jumping at me at least twice. for them jumping all over you - wearing devious belt while you have them around is a very bad idea. Went through this quest in free trial belt from CD and with arousal never dropping below 100... lets just say Jenn was seeing alot of need in my eyes...
AlericoftheNords Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 I like the idea of slave raping me when forgot to fulfill her need. That's awesome. Fishburger, don't you dare to remove that option. :) )just kidding with the last sentence. Of course, you can do whatever you want. I is your mod after all.) Totally agree - imo leave that thing as it is. With it those slaves are not just some dolls that are following you - they have their needs and you need to take care of them as their master. To me it's more fun this way. They have 'their needs' except they are supposed to be slaves....and having them rape the PC essentially reverses the power balance of the relationship. If I'm the 'Master/Mistress' they are supposed to be subject to my whims, not the other way around. I'm not fond of being publicly raped by characters that are supposed to be my 'slaves,' it just doesn't make sense. For example, I'm spanking (punishing) my slave, and she suddenly puts an end to the punishment and rapes me...why would I allow that...? I see this as essentially a confusion between being a Domm and being a Sub. What you are describing in your post is Submissive behavior on your part -- being 'forced' to fulfill the needs of another -- when your PC/Avatar is supposed to be in the Domm role. I'm not saying to remove it, but making it toggleable would be nice for those of who actually want to play as a Domm. Read yellow text in the post at the top of page 59 to fully understand sex slave lore. Sex slaves need sex like water. It is not a matter of desire, it is a matter of need. They cannot control it, it is part of their nature. Still wish it could be a toggle...
sashalag Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 As for the female content, I'd love Sashalag's idea to allow the player to become a sex slave herself (some of the content for this is actually there already, as you got these nice BDSM scenes). Can make the piercing lockable maybe, so that only the demora can remove it from the player and that it prevents you from wearing any clothing while wearing it? One of the demora could even be turned into a (dominant) follower perhaps? For the more dominant ladies, a couple more guy slaves to pick from would be nice to have, too. And why is Andrew wearing armour anyway? We want our eye-candy, too! Stay tuned, I am working actively on this. YAY !!! Can´t wait to see what you have planned for our poor dragonborns
Khe Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 major request for an annoying thing i've noticed... when you add the Track Player spell, it's visible. I've popped out of places to have it re-added periodically, etc. solution's simple pseudocode: player.addspell(mySpell,1) endpseudocode why? actor.addspell(spell akSpell, int abSilent=0) by default, it prints a message to the screen every time a spell's added...adding that ,1 removes the spam also...I'm getting CTDs every time I enter the dungeon, now gonna try it on a new save I guess... edit: derpy goof. it's abSilent, not abVerbose
fishburger67 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 major request for an annoying thing i've noticed... when you add the Track Player spell, it's visible. I've popped out of places to have it re-added periodically, etc. solution's simple pseudocode: player.addspell(mySpell,1) endpseudocode why? actor.addspell(spell akSpell, int abSilent=0) by default, it prints a message to the screen every time a spell's added...adding that ,1 removes the spam also...I'm getting CTDs every time I enter the dungeon, now gonna try it on a new save I guess... edit: derpy goof. it's abSilent, not abVerbose Your CTDs likely won't be because of Sex Slaves, but you can decrease any conflict by setting the cell scan delay to like 2-5 seconds and see if that doesnt help. Also, I'll stick in the silent thing today. It was there because I was having problems with it a while back and wanted to see it while I was testing.
Antonio121989 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Can I use this mod to enslave enemies? I was trying to enslave enemies using the I'll take you display model and Defeat, but it didn't worked well, and my followers tend to kill them before I can do anything.
germanicus Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Antonio - no, you can't enslave the enemies. I've tried even to change their faction using console command. The first town I entered, guards attacked her and killed her. It's Vanilla thing that doesn't let you do that.
fishburger67 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 Antonio - no, you can't enslave the enemies. I've tried even to change their faction using console command. The first town I entered, guards attacked her and killed her. It's Vanilla thing that doesn't let you do that. I can change about anything so that guards will not attack your people except the AI agressiveness thing. If an npc is very agressive, guards will attack them and there is no papyrus way to change that that sticks beyond the current session.
fishburger67 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 Version 30 Beta a is uploaded. This version continues to adjust the dialog. All idle dialog is now on the same timer. You can increase and decrease the minimum time between vocalizations using the shut up and you can talk some more options. Each time you click one, the minimum time is doubled or halved (down to zero). If the you can talk more goes away, you are essentially back at a vanilla setting. You can increase it to the point where you won't get any idle dialog except for when you go to certain fixed locations. Fixed locations like player homes and cities are on a separate timer. Also added an MCM menu to turn off raping the player. It is called something like "Sex Slaves are lore friendly". It defaults to on. Check it off to break the lore but make your slaves never rape you. If you are unhappy about the frequency of the rapes, try turning dialog off a little by clicking the "your talking to much" dialog a couple of times. The rape frequency (the test for arousal to be more exact) is tied to this value as well. Also fix a few fem bugs, notably, the position of the player in fem-fem sex. NOTE: For the new MCM options to load, you have to load a save from version 2.9 or earlier. If you load a save from 3.0 Beta 1, the new MCM options will not work.
Antonio121989 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I have just tested with sexlab submit and it works They pass to not be aggressive and my followers leave them alone, I can talk and initiate sex. So sure there is a way. My main problem is that it is very buggy when trying to have sex with creatures, even with you submiting the creature don't accept and keeps fighting with the followers, also you can't make them to surrender. So I will keep this as last option of enemy enslavement.
germanicus Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I have just tested with sexlab submit and it works They pass to not be aggressive and my followers leave them alone, I can talk and initiate sex. So sure there is a way. My main problem is that it is very buggy when trying to have sex with creatures, even with you submiting the creature don't accept and keeps fighting with the followers, also you can't make them to surrender. So I will keep this as last option of enemy enslavement. Glad you made it Antonio. I completely forgot on Submit mod since I haven't use it for a long time.
fishburger67 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 Was just doing some testing and some research on the dialog "shut the fuck up" option I just added. The default out of the box for each allowance of a random idle talk is .04 game hours where 1 game hour ~ 3 real time minutes. Not really much of a throttle. If you hit that dialog option, it goes from .04 to .08 to .16 and .32 as a maximum. I was playing with .16 for a while which = 12 minutes. So, I am suggesting that you hit that option 4 times until it is no longer available which will set the idle conversation to about 1 every 24 minutes real time. Gonna give that a try.
germanicus Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 fishburger - I enjoy so much hearing them talking and saying perversion to my perverted ear, that I increased speaking ability to maximum.
fishburger67 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 Ya, I like it too, but sometimes when you are playing, it gets annoying. I am testing this actively and hope to get just the right balance before the end of the week. I am also having fun playing for a change. For those who downloaded the 30a version, recommend that you dump it. The option to stop Jenny from singing all the time does not work. I'll get a fixed version up friday I hope, thanksgiving tomorrow.
germanicus Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 For those who downloaded the 30a version, recommend that you dump it. Too late. 30a is up! I never get tired of listening sexual dialogs from my sex slave. I get tired from Vanilla's - We stop, what is it?, I'm right behind you!, Let's get moving and other crazy dialogs that would love to turn off. But when my sex slave is talking "dirty" it's the sound of the music to my ears.
deviant51 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I can't find any "Submissive options" I enabeld it in MCM but all that happens is that sometimes sex randomly starts. Is this just what it is for now or am I doing something wrong?-sorry for bad english
AlericoftheNords Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 fishburger - I enjoy so much hearing them talking and saying perversion to my perverted ear, that I increased speaking ability to maximum. This. I can't imagine myself tuning down Jenny's dialogue.
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