fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 So thanks for the previous help on AFT.  That worked.  Some minor incompatibilities with Alicia.  Also, I accidentally made Alicia my sexslave with this mod.  So far it seems to be okay, but dialog now takes a long time to open.  I shouldn't have done that.  My biggest beef is that I really wish that there was more support for male slaves with male PC (and actual male slaves in Sanguine's castle).  Even if you dont have voiced dialog, some of the basic options should be there, like seduce orgy, group sex that allows all male characters, etc.  It doesnt have to be that different, just a few choice words here and there would have to change.  I'd even be okay if the dialog was gender wrong, if the options were still there (although it would be best if there was a least a little gender awareness/compatibility).  In any event, I did manage to get my follower into the male slave faction, but I had to use console to do it, Volkar would not recognize him as a valid follower.  The gas trap was awesome.  Good job with that!  Training Mia was a bit of a pain (took at least 3 hours of dedicated time w/ MCM setting=4), but in the end I got it to work and it was fine.  I dont mind inconveniences. I am gonna fix the dialog slowness today I think. The reason it takes a long time is to scan the cell for possible orgy participants. I am gonna move those into a separate group below the "Listen to me slave" group so it comes up instantly.  I can't begin to tell you how much anti-gay feedback I get when I add some gay stuff. If you play a female character, there is currently lots of male sex slave dialog (as well as spouse dialog), but there is not enough interest in gay sex slaves for me to put in the effort required.
fishburger67 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Posted November 18, 2014 @rockitten  1. Now I totally understand why so many feedback about the training needs more favoring and be shorter. Compare with the exciting capture scene, it is........ I mean, a "REAL" training should be, I beat her, I put plugs into her so she can get excited but not organism, hang her up and lock her into the cells. I take a nap, come back and she beg for sex. Virginal first, from normal positions to more insulting styles like doggy style, then anal, then those racks, wheels....etc and finally, when you think she is ready (so she won't bite) and we play oral and group sex. Even at the shortest time setting, repeating the same sex animation so many times is no fun at all....... The release I put up yesterday has this thing seriously reduced. If it is still too hard for the majority, I reduce it more.  2. Probably we need a MCM menu for sex slave management similar to the milk maid mod. Especially for an option to disable a particular sex slave status of a NPC as it is somewhat an irreversible process at the moment. I don't have milk maid mod. Give some feedback based on Sex Slaves to let me know what you want.  3. How come there is no inventory management dialog option for Mia after she has become a sex slave? She is just another npc to me, your follower management mod should have that dialog. (Did you make her a follower?)  4. It should be the master/madam to control when the slave can have sex, not the slave. As least a MCM menu to switch the forced sex off please..... That is not true for Sex Slaves. Unlike normal girls, they NEED sex. Nymphomaniacs on steroids is a phrase I heard and liked. If you don't screw them, they rape you. 5. Many be this mod should really make a good use for those devious devices stuff. So far many of those toys only works on PC but not NPC. But for a mod like this, we should really be able to make those plugs, cuffs, gags, pony boots, dog tail (force the slave to claw on four)....etcs works on sex slaves. After, that's what sex slave suppose to wear. And you have already have the script for a forced AI already. I can add that stuff, but I didn't want yet another dependance mod. Also, Sex Slaves are designed to be adventuring companions. I have no interest in the typical slave stuff, there is lots of that already. But, if there is enough popular demand, I see what I can do.
Carida Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Greetings,  I was curious about this mod, but when I saw there were only female slaves, I had no interest. But I just recently read that there are male sex slaves as well?  <-- female  I'd like to have a nice ol' male sex slave   If not I understand and I wish you well with the mod   -C
fishburger67 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 Greetings,  I was curious about this mod, but when I saw there were only female slaves, I had no interest. But I just recently read that there are male sex slaves as well?  <-- female  I'd like to have a nice ol' male sex slave  If not I understand and I wish you well with the mod  -C  There is a single male slave. The main quest is female oriented and you have some female only dialog with your spouse (if you have one). I am currently working actively on the female side of things and hope to have the basic part done tonight or tomorrow. If you try it out, I would love to have some female oriented feedback.
rockitten Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 @rockitten  1. Now I totally understand why so many feedback about the training needs more favoring and be shorter. Compare with the exciting capture scene, it is........ I mean, a "REAL" training should be, I beat her, I put plugs into her so she can get excited but not organism, hang her up and lock her into the cells. I take a nap, come back and she beg for sex. Virginal first, from normal positions to more insulting styles like doggy style, then anal, then those racks, wheels....etc and finally, when you think she is ready (so she won't bite) and we play oral and group sex. Even at the shortest time setting, repeating the same sex animation so many times is no fun at all....... The release I put up yesterday has this thing seriously reduced. If it is still too hard for the majority, I reduce it more.  2. Probably we need a MCM menu for sex slave management similar to the milk maid mod. Especially for an option to disable a particular sex slave status of a NPC as it is somewhat an irreversible process at the moment. I don't have milk maid mod. Give some feedback based on Sex Slaves to let me know what you want.  3. How come there is no inventory management dialog option for Mia after she has become a sex slave? She is just another npc to me, your follower management mod should have that dialog. (Did you make her a follower?)  4. It should be the master/madam to control when the slave can have sex, not the slave. As least a MCM menu to switch the forced sex off please..... That is not true for Sex Slaves. Unlike normal girls, they NEED sex. Nymphomaniacs on steroids is a phrase I heard and liked. If you don't screw them, they rape you. 5. Many be this mod should really make a good use for those devious devices stuff. So far many of those toys only works on PC but not NPC. But for a mod like this, we should really be able to make those plugs, cuffs, gags, pony boots, dog tail (force the slave to claw on four)....etcs works on sex slaves. After, that's what sex slave suppose to wear. And you have already have the script for a forced AI already. I can add that stuff, but I didn't want yet another dependance mod. Also, Sex Slaves are designed to be adventuring companions. I have no interest in the typical slave stuff, there is lots of that already. But, if there is enough popular demand, I see what I can do.  1. I am using ver 2.6 for the training and that takes me nearly 2 hours for it. The speed is not the only issue, but some variety at different training stage (such as different position or sex act from zaz) will surely make the training much more fun.  2.The "good feature" in the milk mod's MCM menu is that, there is an slave management menu . Such as: A. option to remove the sex slave status from all/each slaves (and so user can safely uninstall the mod if needed), B. change the level (training stage and how much she like/hate you in this case) of a sex slave, C. See status of all your sex slaves (and trainee).  Remove sex slave status from your slave will be useful as we have someone pick a wrong NPC (a quest related or scripted) for training by mistake or simply need to safely uninstall the mod.  3. Yes, they need sex. But as as a slave I have spent so much time to make them obey my orders, it just weird to get "raped" by them. It is also annoying as sometimes I am in a middle of a quest or scripted scene, which this interruption may just screw it up. Something like the cell-scan on/off option on MCM for that forced sex will be good.......  4. Rather than depend on other mod, I would recommend you just use their item mesh and texture (just like the piercings).  Those "scripted items" may also useful for player to switch some function on and off. For example: A. Add collar to slaves so you can summon them or send them home by a shout (useful for missing slave) B. A Chastity piercings/belt will stop your slave raping you (useful when player is in a middle of a scripted scene) C. Gags for random dialogs on/off (with gag sounds, so you can listen to the quest dialogs or read the subtitles) D. Plugs will change how much the slave need sex (arouse multiplier/reducer) E. "Magical" hand-cuff that will only release the slave's hand when combat (and so no masturbate, or if it is a arm-binder, slave can only use magic from her boobs/his dick..... how about a magical dick/strap-on as a melee weapon...........? ^^) F. Tails to force the slave to claw on four G. Amulet/circlet to temporary remove the slave from slave status (just in case) H. Strap-on (to decide who is doing the penetration for girl to girl, and to make girl fxxking a guy happens) I. May be a boobs enlargement/shrinking ring will be good......  Yes, there are lots of mods for those stuffs already, but they only works on PC rather than NPC (the arm-binder is is a good example that only works on PC). I am always using male PC and I am not interested to play as a sub. After all, you are going to spent hours to train a slave, to make it worthwhile, we need some more stuff to play with.
TheSmithsDog Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 What I think would be a good addition to the dialogue would be, as in Submit, where you have the choice of dropping on the spot for sex or to find somewhere more private. As it stands you have to make sure you are not near walls, furniture, etc or you end up in them. If you use a mod that makes them use idle markers, wander around, it can be a pain trying to get them clear of obstacles. Â As for people wanting more men, I don't have a problem as long as I can turn them off. The first thing I did after the quest was disable the guy, he wanted to give me a pumping, not on... Not into stirring other's porridge either so he had to go. Maybe I should have hung him on the wall and left him there to watch. An option to tell them to piss off would be nice, ai to make them walk outside then disable them. On your bike champ! Â
torn Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 You can add of light to a room training slaves? There's too dark.
Carida Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014  Greetings,  I was curious about this mod, but when I saw there were only female slaves, I had no interest. But I just recently read that there are male sex slaves as well?  <-- female  I'd like to have a nice ol' male sex slave  If not I understand and I wish you well with the mod  -C  There is a single male slave. The main quest is female oriented and you have some female only dialog with your spouse (if you have one). I am currently working actively on the female side of things and hope to have the basic part done tonight or tomorrow. If you try it out, I would love to have some female oriented feedback.    Alrighty, I'll be happy to give it a try. Does this need to be started from a fresh game? My current one I'm already up to "Alduin's Bane" and I use Alternate Start, so I never pass through the regular beginning. Well I'll figure it out. Thank you for being willing to flesh out the female side of things   -C
jrok72 Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 V26 was excellent!! Â For once I did have Alicia with me and was interesting and fun!! Â Will be testing the sister stuff after I finish Alicia's mod truly. Â Will try again after finishing the main of Alicia. Â This works well with a large number of mods, nothing found yet as a conflict. Â It can get exciting with Random Sex and a group of slaves with me. Â @fishburger67 , I do know there is still much work to be done on the polishing and I hope the dialogue/voices will have the pc checked for sex status and add "Mistress" or "My Lady" included in them. Â Again this is long from now and on the bottom of a list. Â Gas Trap went well and only messed up once, due to just to separate mods all trying to run, restart solved it. Â I only found one small issue with bookshelves, but I think this has been reported before. Â Thank You for this wonderful change to the land!!!
fishburger67 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014   Greetings,  I was curious about this mod, but when I saw there were only female slaves, I had no interest. But I just recently read that there are male sex slaves as well?  <-- female  I'd like to have a nice ol' male sex slave  If not I understand and I wish you well with the mod  -C  There is a single male slave. The main quest is female oriented and you have some female only dialog with your spouse (if you have one). I am currently working actively on the female side of things and hope to have the basic part done tonight or tomorrow. If you try it out, I would love to have some female oriented feedback.    Alrighty, I'll be happy to give it a try. Does this need to be started from a fresh game? My current one I'm already up to "Alduin's Bane" and I use Alternate Start, so I never pass through the regular beginning. Well I'll figure it out. Thank you for being willing to flesh out the female side of things  -C  You don't need a fresh save game, just one without MiasLiar in it. Just install the mod, go to a major city to get the courier's note to start the quest. You will need two female followers. Play it save and get vanilla ones, and specifically, don't use Arissa or Vihja as they cause problems for some people. I think you will like it.  Once you get into the palace, there is a single male sex slave there (after you have killed the current owner) that you can recruit and take with you. If you take him into an area with other men, you will have additional dialog options. If you take a female sex slave with you, you will have dialog options with your husband (if you have one). Â
fishburger67 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 V26 was excellent!!  For once I did have Alicia with me and was interesting and fun!!  Will be testing the sister stuff after I finish Alicia's mod truly.  Will try again after finishing the main of Alicia.  This works well with a large number of mods, nothing found yet as a conflict.  It can get exciting with Random Sex and a group of slaves with me.  @fishburger67 , I do know there is still much work to be done on the polishing and I hope the dialogue/voices will have the pc checked for sex status and add "Mistress" or "My Lady" included in them.  Again this is long from now and on the bottom of a list.  Gas Trap went well and only messed up once, due to just to separate mods all trying to run, restart solved it.  I only found one small issue with bookshelves, but I think this has been reported before.  Thank You for this wonderful change to the land!!!  I am actively working on this female stuff ATM. Will have a major update for female players soon, but I have yet to get to the Mistress and My Lady stuff although that is planned.  What is the issue with bookshelves?
fishburger67 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 can u add some spells for easy training like the one in EstrusForSkyrim I have reduced the training requirements via MCM in the version I have yet to post.
fishburger67 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 You can add of light to a room training slaves? There's too dark. Â Agreed, will do it today.
fishburger67 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Posted November 19, 2014 What I think would be a good addition to the dialogue would be, as in Submit, where you have the choice of dropping on the spot for sex or to find somewhere more private. As it stands you have to make sure you are not near walls, furniture, etc or you end up in them. If you use a mod that makes them use idle markers, wander around, it can be a pain trying to get them clear of obstacles.  As for people wanting more men, I don't have a problem as long as I can turn them off. The first thing I did after the quest was disable the guy, he wanted to give me a pumping, not on... Not into stirring other's porridge either so he had to go. Maybe I should have hung him on the wall and left him there to watch. An option to tell them to piss off would be nice, ai to make them walk outside then disable them. On your bike champ!  Thanks for the feedback. I'll add the "Move to a more private place" dialog soon.  Male sex dialog should only be available to female players, and the single male in the palace has AI to screw the other females known to be there. He should not be jumping you.  I like the AI option to disable them, like maybe tell them to get the fxxck out. Give that option to any of the sex slaves in the palace. Â
jrok72 Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014  V26 was excellent!!  For once I did have Alicia with me and was interesting and fun!!  Will be testing the sister stuff after I finish Alicia's mod truly.  Will try again after finishing the main of Alicia.  This works well with a large number of mods, nothing found yet as a conflict.  It can get exciting with Random Sex and a group of slaves with me.  @fishburger67 , I do know there is still much work to be done on the polishing and I hope the dialogue/voices will have the pc checked for sex status and add "Mistress" or "My Lady" included in them.  Again this is long from now and on the bottom of a list.  Gas Trap went well and only messed up once, due to just to separate mods all trying to run, restart solved it.  I only found one small issue with bookshelves, but I think this has been reported before.  Thank You for this wonderful change to the land!!!  I am actively working on this female stuff ATM. Will have a major update for female players soon, but I have yet to get to the Mistress and My Lady stuff although that is planned.  What is the issue with bookshelves?  With the bookshelves in the Palace, when I placed books/notes on them they placed above the shelves.  It is a small minor issue nothing of major concern.  May only be due to smaller display setting I have.  Tried to add the screenshots, but haven't created a rar for them.  With the female stuff being considered, is there a possibility of adding Dominate Female for the training/bonding of female slaves?  This can also help with male slaves at a level of FemDom over them.  Random thoughts sometimes sneak into replies.....Sorry
Carida Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Greetings again!  So I've given the mod a try. Unfortunately I'm a bit hung up.  Spoilers under the spoiler   Basically where you go to Morthal to talk to the z named guy, he won't talk to me.   And I made sure I have poor dusty Lydia and Iona with me. LOl they are usually left at home at all times. I even dismissed my beloved Inigo =_=  But no go. Any clue what might be the problem? Did I do something wrong? I have AFT, so in total I have about five followers now. Only Iona and Lydia are with me. Gorr, Inigo (who I dismissed) and errm.. my undead lych guy are over at the house. So I would figure it would note only the females I have with me? Not the males I left at home?  I'll try fiddling some more, maybe I did something wrong. Thanks for the mod!  -C  Â
fishburger67 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Greetings again!  So I've given the mod a try. Unfortunately I'm a bit hung up.  Spoilers under the spoiler   Basically where you go to Morthal to talk to the z named guy, he won't talk to me.   And I made sure I have poor dusty Lydia and Iona with me. LOl they are usually left at home at all times. I even dismissed my beloved Inigo =_=  But no go. Any clue what might be the problem? Did I do something wrong? I have AFT, so in total I have about five followers now. Only Iona and Lydia are with me. Gorr, Inigo (who I dismissed) and errm.. my undead lych guy are over at the house. So I would figure it would note only the females I have with me? Not the males I left at home?  I'll try fiddling some more, maybe I did something wrong. Thanks for the mod!  -C  If you read the bandit note, you had a quest pointer to TZollaman (right?) If you had the quest pointer, check your MCM menu when you walk into the door of the in and it should say 2 followers. If that is the case, and they are both girls, he should talk to you. Check your quest log and make sure it sez stage 70.  The dialog with TZollaman depends on 2 -5 female followers, 0 male followers, and quest stage == 70.  You can kill Tzollaman and get the key from him to carry on. Â
holtof55 Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Always occurs at CTD wis stage of poisoned in Dungeons Miawhat next - I do not know what the mod is not walked, playing male player
Carida Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014  Greetings again!  So I've given the mod a try. Unfortunately I'm a bit hung up.  Spoilers under the spoiler   Basically where you go to Morthal to talk to the z named guy, he won't talk to me.   And I made sure I have poor dusty Lydia and Iona with me. LOl they are usually left at home at all times. I even dismissed my beloved Inigo =_=  But no go. Any clue what might be the problem? Did I do something wrong? I have AFT, so in total I have about five followers now. Only Iona and Lydia are with me. Gorr, Inigo (who I dismissed) and errm.. my undead lych guy are over at the house. So I would figure it would note only the females I have with me? Not the males I left at home?  I'll try fiddling some more, maybe I did something wrong. Thanks for the mod!  -C  If you read the bandit note, you had a quest pointer to TZollaman (right?) If you had the quest pointer, check your MCM menu when you walk into the door of the in and it should say 2 followers. If that is the case, and they are both girls, he should talk to you. Check your quest log and make sure it sez stage 70.  The dialog with TZollaman depends on 2 -5 female followers, 0 male followers, and quest stage == 70.  You can kill Tzollaman and get the key from him to carry on.   Yea it said 3 followers. But I made Inigo go home, so it would be no male followers but.. murder sounds good to me >.>  I'll just errm.. put him out of his misery <.< can keep Inigo with me that way! Its fun so far, thanks for the mod   -C
fishburger67 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014   Greetings again!  So I've given the mod a try. Unfortunately I'm a bit hung up.  Spoilers under the spoiler   Basically where you go to Morthal to talk to the z named guy, he won't talk to me.   And I made sure I have poor dusty Lydia and Iona with me. LOl they are usually left at home at all times. I even dismissed my beloved Inigo =_=  But no go. Any clue what might be the problem? Did I do something wrong? I have AFT, so in total I have about five followers now. Only Iona and Lydia are with me. Gorr, Inigo (who I dismissed) and errm.. my undead lych guy are over at the house. So I would figure it would note only the females I have with me? Not the males I left at home?  I'll try fiddling some more, maybe I did something wrong. Thanks for the mod!  -C  If you read the bandit note, you had a quest pointer to TZollaman (right?) If you had the quest pointer, check your MCM menu when you walk into the door of the in and it should say 2 followers. If that is the case, and they are both girls, he should talk to you. Check your quest log and make sure it sez stage 70.  The dialog with TZollaman depends on 2 -5 female followers, 0 male followers, and quest stage == 70.  You can kill Tzollaman and get the key from him to carry on.   Yea it said 3 followers. But I made Inigo go home, so it would be no male followers but.. murder sounds good to me >.>  I'll just errm.. put him out of his misery <.< can keep Inigo with me that way! Its fun so far, thanks for the mod  -C   Can't you dismiss him and then get him later?  Â
fishburger67 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Version 27 BETA uploaded  This version is beta ONLY because the S+M scene in the dungeon is a little (a lot maybe) flakey. Added more lighting and several bug fixes.  Also added lots of new dialog for female players. To see this dialog, you must be a female player and talking to either your spouse or your male sex slave. In some cases, you need to be in an areas with two or more other males to have all the dialog show up.  If you are a female and you talk to Volkar, he will offer to beat the hell out of you. This is a bit flakey because Volkar seems to get hung up while whipping you from time to time. I am still working on that to make it more reliable, so save your game before you talk to him. It works like 70% of the time.  @Carida, you should download this at your earliest convenience.
dragenx Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) I start a new game and took 2 followers with me went in and got gas as you can see my PC is hanging as well as Lydia and lona is in the stock did I do something wrong also look at the screen shot the guy is froze with the broom in his hand Help I like to do the mod what is going on I did a save before going in just in case it did this  Try again now the guy is stand there like he whipping my PC but dose not any way to get around this Edited November 20, 2014 by dragenx
fishburger67 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 I start a new game and took 2 followers with me went in and got gas as you can see my PC is hanging as well as Lydia and lona is in the stock did I do something wrong also look at the screen shot the guy is froze with the broom in his hand Help I like to do the mod what is going on I did a save before going in just in case it did this  Try again now the guy is stand there like he whipping my PC but dose not any way to get around this  I can't tell from the images what is happening, in the first, he looks like he has a broom and the second a whip..  What should happen is that he brooms the pc in the pillory for a bit and then the broom vanishes and he walks over to you and sez something.  Then he beats you. Then he sez something, then he beats your hanging companion.  So, tell me again, it sounds like you tried twice. In the first case he walked up to you with a broom. In the second try, he walked up to you, took out the whip and then stopped. Is that accurate?  If so, make a papyrus log. Make sure it is not full of crap. If it is, fix the crap. If not, post the log and let me see.  What is happening here is something is preventing the NPC Archerone from whipping you. Did he talk to you in the second scene first before he started to whip you? He should have.  These scenes HAVE to run. If something happens to stop them, the whole thing breaks. In the one you are in, (there are 4 more), if anything gets in his way from talking to you or beating you or your companion, the whole thing breaks.  If you can't fix this and just want to get past this, kill the NPCs in the area you are in and then setstage 60 on MiaDungeonCapture and then find the lever and flip it and move on.  However, you'll be missing a scene that took me 4 days to get scripted right and it is really cool. Most other people do not have problems with it.
therealkarlsquell Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Can i upgrade from 2.0 to the recent version without having to start a new game (have the quest but not yet talked to the Jarl)
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