ixmir Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 After finally bonding with Mia, I cant start any dialogue with her - when I try to talk, she just answers "..." and thats it. Any suggestions?
VVilly Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 One last try on my part. Make sure "enable cell scan" is on, scan time set to default "1", and bring your follower with you through the main door from the outside. If that does not work, you will have to wait for someone who actually knows something. My initial questions were to help them. check sqv SexSlFemEnslave and page up until you find femaleCandidates_var should be above 0 you should have this dialogue option while talking with him again "I am interested in the slave training you mentioned." if not you can also check help sexsldarkphase should be 1 Thanks for help, I've solved my problem.
fishburger67 Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 For 5.1c, do I need to download the whole thing if updating from 5.1a, or can I just download the esp? I ask cause I redownloaded the mega.co full BSA on the download link and realized after completion that it's 5.1a. Thank you for the great mod by the way Yes, you need the whole thing. Several new and fixed scripts. After finally bonding with Mia, I cant start any dialogue with her - when I try to talk, she just answers "..." and thats it. Any suggestions? After the bonding scene, there should a dialog to recruit her or send her home. Did you get that? If not, make a papyrus log of bonding scene and post it. Can you put names to the faces? Mias04.jpg Mias05.jpg No idea, but one of them looks like niri, so I am guessing they are all reworks of the slaves.
Vuulgar Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Can you put names to the faces? Mias04.jpg Mias05.jpg Wow these look great, I am assuming the red head is Mia? It is my curse to be attracted to gingers irl...
bimbochoas Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 most say I download this mod over the weeknd and love all of it would have post sooner but network went out. anyway I love it all but have to say this I think there should be an option that you end up slave yourself to someone who turn you into a sexslave, I be wathc and follow and hope when elder scroll 6 come out when ever that happen, you make this mod into it
HounDog Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Aw, c'mon fish give it a try, in my mind i was trying to keep them true to the originals and their role/personality so if you can't figure them out it means i failed lol. Btw, the door on the inside of the forge room has no collision, you can go through it.
ixmir Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Hi fishburger, thanks a lot! After finally bonding with Mia, I cant start any dialogue with her - when I try to talk, she just answers "..." and thats it. Any suggestions? After the bonding scene, there should a dialog to recruit her or send her home. Did you get that? If not, make a papyrus log of bonding scene and post it. Yes, that dialog came - played it through again, no matter if I taker her with me or send her home - as soon as this dialog ends, she not responding anything else than "..." Heres the log of the bonding scene: [07/06/2015 - 10:57:28PM] Bonding speech scene start in 5 seconds [07/06/2015 - 10:57:30PM] SlaveTats: Beginning synchronization for Kerotha [07/06/2015 - 10:57:30PM] SlaveTats: Nothing has changed. Cancelling synchronization. [07/06/2015 - 10:57:33PM] Start bonding now scene with Mia Lorenz [07/06/2015 - 10:57:42PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 10:57:54PM] Mia Lorenz Slave is bonded [07/06/2015 - 10:57:54PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Thread[0]: Entering Making State [07/06/2015 - 10:57:54PM] SEXLAB - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0E061EEF)>]: Slotted 'Mia Lorenz' [07/06/2015 - 10:57:54PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Adjustment Profile: BleaghFemaleSolo.ImperialRaceF [07/06/2015 - 10:57:54PM] playSexSounds [07/06/2015 - 10:57:56PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: prepare Timer: -28.716980 [07/06/2015 - 10:57:56PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: AnimationStart [07/06/2015 - 10:57:57PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: Sync Timer: -9.283997 [07/06/2015 - 10:57:57PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] animating: Stage: 1 [07/06/2015 - 10:57:57PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageStart [07/06/2015 - 10:57:57PM] [SexslLustExplosion <Active effect 3 on (120189A3)>]SexLab animation Masturbation stage 1 [07/06/2015 - 10:57:57PM] playClimaxSexSounds [07/06/2015 - 10:57:57PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (11042D62)>] Getting actors for 3 and locked = TRUE [07/06/2015 - 10:58:03PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 10:58:06PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (11042D62)>]:Aroused scan skipped because sexlab is animating. [07/06/2015 - 10:58:24PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 10:58:27PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageEnd [07/06/2015 - 10:58:28PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: Sync Timer: -9.049988 [07/06/2015 - 10:58:28PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] animating: Stage: 2 [07/06/2015 - 10:58:28PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageStart [07/06/2015 - 10:58:28PM] [SexslLustExplosion <Active effect 3 on (120189A3)>]SexLab animation Masturbation stage 2 [07/06/2015 - 10:58:28PM] playClimaxSexSounds [07/06/2015 - 10:58:28PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (11042D62)>] Getting actors for 3 and locked = TRUE [07/06/2015 - 10:58:49PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageEnd [07/06/2015 - 10:58:49PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 10:58:50PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: Sync Timer: -9.065979 [07/06/2015 - 10:58:50PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] animating: Stage: 3 [07/06/2015 - 10:58:50PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageStart [07/06/2015 - 10:58:50PM] [SexslLustExplosion <Active effect 3 on (120189A3)>]SexLab animation Masturbation stage 3 [07/06/2015 - 10:58:50PM] playClimaxSexSounds [07/06/2015 - 10:58:50PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (11042D62)>] Getting actors for 3 and locked = TRUE [07/06/2015 - 10:59:05PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageEnd [07/06/2015 - 10:59:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: Sync Timer: -8.733002 [07/06/2015 - 10:59:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] animating: Stage: 4 [07/06/2015 - 10:59:06PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageStart [07/06/2015 - 10:59:06PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (11042D62)>] Getting actors for 3 and locked = TRUE [07/06/2015 - 10:59:06PM] [SexslLustExplosion <Active effect 3 on (120189A3)>]SexLab animation Masturbation stage 4 [07/06/2015 - 10:59:06PM] playClimaxSexSounds [07/06/2015 - 10:59:10PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 10:59:21PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: StageEnd [07/06/2015 - 10:59:22PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: Sync Timer: -9.248993 [07/06/2015 - 10:59:22PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] animating: Stage: 5 [07/06/2015 - 10:59:22PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: OrgasmStart [07/06/2015 - 10:59:22PM] [SexslLustExplosion <Active effect 3 on (120189A3)>]Masterbate finished [07/06/2015 - 10:59:22PM] playClimaxSexSounds stop [07/06/2015 - 10:59:22PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: Orgasm Timer: -4.966003 [07/06/2015 - 10:59:31PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 10:59:31PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: OrgasmEnd [07/06/2015 - 10:59:31PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: AnimationEnding [07/06/2015 - 10:59:32PM] [slainternalscr <sla_Internal (11083137)>]: Mia Lorenz had orgasm date updated [07/06/2015 - 10:59:32PM] [slainternalscr <sla_Internal (11083137)>]: Mia Lorenz got -42 exposure for having orgasm [07/06/2015 - 10:59:32PM] SEXLAB - Mia Lorenz: -- Resetting! -- [07/06/2015 - 10:59:33PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEventDone: Reset Timer: -44.015991 [07/06/2015 - 10:59:33PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] AliasEvent: Reset [07/06/2015 - 10:59:34PM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook: AnimationEnd [07/06/2015 - 10:59:46PM] VM is freezing... [07/06/2015 - 10:59:46PM] VM is frozen [07/06/2015 - 10:59:47PM] Saving game... [07/06/2015 - 10:59:48PM] VM is thawing... [07/06/2015 - 10:59:51PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 11:00:06PM] Clearing from trainee 1 [07/06/2015 - 11:00:12PM] [DCUR] Periodical update starts [07/06/2015 - 11:00:24PM] slaScanner start time is ....537.306030 [07/06/2015 - 11:00:24PM] [slamainscr <sla_Main (11042D62)>] Getting actors for 2 and locked = TRUE [07/06/2015 - 11:00:24PM] Found 0 nakedActors [07/06/2015 - 11:00:25PM] slaScanner After getting actors is ....538.255981, player is naked False [07/06/2015 - 11:00:25PM] Unlocking [07/06/2015 - 11:00:25PM] slaScanner end time is ....538.273010 [07/06/2015 - 11:00:25PM] Next update in 120.000000 [07/06/2015 - 11:00:37PM] VM is freezing... [07/06/2015 - 11:00:37PM] VM is frozen Replaying the bonding I noticed that Mia also responds with "..." before that scene, but until then it is possible to talk to her after 1-3 attempts.
fishburger67 Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 Hi fishburger, thanks a lot! After finally bonding with Mia, I cant start any dialogue with her - when I try to talk, she just answers "..." and thats it. Any suggestions? After the bonding scene, there should a dialog to recruit her or send her home. Did you get that? If not, make a papyrus log of bonding scene and post it. Yes, that dialog came - played it through again, no matter if I taker her with me or send her home - as soon as this dialog ends, she not responding anything else than "..." Heres the log of the bonding scene: Replaying the bonding I noticed that Mia also responds with "..." before that scene, but until then it is possible to talk to her after 1-3 attempts. Clearing from trainee 1 This line from your log tells me that you successfully made her a follower or sent her home. She will then have a sexslave faction rank which will give her the sex slave dialog. If you don't have that, some other mod is interferring. SexSlave faction is xx085b5 where the xx is the MiasLair mod load order number in hex. in console getfactionrank xx085b5 should return > 0. If it does and you don't have sex slave dialog, you have some other issue.
Thanos Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Just tried this mod again after a long while and this really has grown something fierce. Pretty awesome additions too. So what I mean is: Thanks for the cool stuff. Now some feedback. Warning: some spoilers, a wall of text, unrelated questions and personal oppinion incoming. -- The very first quest (where you are supposed to talk alone to the bandit leader) sounds a lot like it could have a planned bad ending scenario . I think the whole scene was a lot different in older versions (No dialogue or aftermath). Is there any other option there besides fighting and winning (besides getting killed a lot until finally managing to defeat them)? -- Spoiler: I brought the jarls daughter back and after that I had the option to say "I've helped your people" and then become Thane and buy property in Morthal. That's intended I guess? (It's really a cool feature actually). -- I've gone through the bondage contract scenario and now both dremora have no greeting dialogue anymore (normal "hello" or "Yes?" greetings I mean) Is this a bug? -- Potential conflicts I wanted to mention: Depending on your settings, Sexlab Defeat can cause issues when being whipped (effects for stagger when using the lowest setting or even bleedout on low health can trigger). Its easy to avoid completely by just disabling the "player as victim" option in Defeat's MCM menu before starting scenes with Volkar. ACE Realistic Fighting can cause problems in any scene involving whipping (not only for this mod) since it adds a pretty high change for a stagger/stun effect on hits (especially from behind and with low armor) which often breaks poses or even scenes. So far I've found no better solution than disabling the "ACE Realistic Fighting.esp" to ensure bug-free whipping scenes. In case it's interesting: I've given Cerwiden to Vernon to transform her into a sex slave. This actually worked quite well: When her items are removed her default armor reappeared (even though I use UFO's "You could dress better" option which should have removed it from her). Use of console "showinventory" and "removeitem" commands fixed that though. She finished training and now works as intended as far as I can tell. -Dominant Andrew is the coolest thing since iced coffee. I really love that addition. A few requests though: A more reluctant approach to submission would be cool. Current speech options are either total submission or angry rejecting. Some added nuances would be fine. If you don't want to add so much voiced dialogue this could just be used for just for roleplaying: so internally you'd "just" (I know it's still a lot of work) point to the same dialoge result for "happy submission" or "submitting while protesting" choices. Same for asking Andrew for sex: Currently the options all are of the "I want/need you" type. I'd like some speech options which are specifially not about my character needing him but clearly trying get his approval or calm his needs or even just to avoid his punishments. When Andrew tries to initiate his own dialogue, he often stays exactly where he is currently standing until you get in range. This can be very annoying when he stays behind a gate or decides to wait near traps.(I had that happen already: "You need to be spanked... while standing on a flaming floor tile!"). Maybe a "Summon Andrew" spell would be good here. Maybe even an option to turn his force-greets off while in dungeons. More variety would also be cool for the punishment animations (different zaz pillory or bound animations maybe). - I may be one of the few persons and you are of course free to ignore and hate me but I need to say it: I don't like the female voices of the mod for most of the sex scenes. Especially when it's supposed to be the voice of my own character during Volkars scenes. Would it be feasable to add a fith option which plays just a silent voice for the PC (meaning it just displays the text) or maybe plays just sexlab or vanilla voice groans? The current voice acting often sounds a lot too sweet and happy for my taste. There are exceptions, like the Vess/Niri Interrogation scene for example. Some of these might actually be cool to use when training. Currently I feel like the slaves are surprisingly enthusiastic during the first training stages. - Final note for Andrew and/or Sexslaves in general: I currently use Angrim's Apprentice which gives my char some added incentive to actually have regular sex with companions (removing debuffs in earlier quest stages and/or adding buffs after gaining the "drink x" spells). Maybe you could add something similar so it feels more natural that a freshly introduced slave trainer has a more compelling reason for starting to submit to a dominant Andrew, for example.
fishburger67 Posted July 6, 2015 Author Posted July 6, 2015 Just tried this mod again after a long while and this really has grown something fierce. Pretty awesome additions too. So what I mean is: Thanks for the cool stuff. Now some feedback. Warning: some spoilers, a wall of text, unrelated questions and personal oppinion incoming. -- The very first quest (where you are supposed to talk alone to the bandit leader) sounds a lot like it could have a planned bad ending scenario . I think the whole scene was a lot different in older versions (No dialogue or aftermath). Is there any other option there besides fighting and winning (besides getting killed a lot until finally managing to defeat them)? I am not sure Aqqh wants to spend much more tome on this. -- Spoiler: I brought the jarls daughter back and after that I had the option to say "I've helped your people" and then become Thane and buy property in Morthal. That's intended I guess? (It's really a cool feature actually). Intentional -- I've gone through the bondage contract scenario and now both dremora have no greeting dialogue anymore (normal "hello" or "Yes?" greetings I mean) Is this a bug? You have some other issue or haven't completed things. After the bondage thing, you should have mostly the same dialog with Volkar and Vernor depends on who you have with you and you have cell scans turned on -- Potential conflicts I wanted to mention: Depending on your settings, Sexlab Defeat can cause issues when being whipped (effects for stagger when using the lowest setting or even bleedout on low health can trigger). Its easy to avoid completely by just disabling the "player as victim" option in Defeat's MCM menu before starting scenes with Volkar. ACE Realistic Fighting can cause problems in any scene involving whipping (not only for this mod) since it adds a pretty high change for a stagger/stun effect on hits (especially from behind and with low armor) which often breaks poses or even scenes. So far I've found no better solution than disabling the "ACE Realistic Fighting.esp" to ensure bug-free whipping scenes. In case it's interesting: I've given Cerwiden to Vernon to transform her into a sex slave. This actually worked quite well: When her items are removed her default armor reappeared (even though I use UFO's "You could dress better" option which should have removed it from her). Use of console "showinventory" and "removeitem" commands fixed that though. She finished training and now works as intended as far as I can tell. This NPC probably has an outfit. Also, if you have AFT, make sure it is managing inventory or things are screwy. -Dominant Andrew is the coolest thing since iced coffee. I really love that addition. A few requests though: A more reluctant approach to submission would be cool. Current speech options are either total submission or angry rejecting. Some added nuances would be fine. If you don't want to add so much voiced dialogue this could just be used for just for roleplaying: so internally you'd "just" (I know it's still a lot of work) point to the same dialoge result for "happy submission" or "submitting while protesting" choices. Stay tuned. Should have something in a month or so more. I am actively working on a major Andrew expansion.. Same for asking Andrew for sex: Currently the options all are of the "I want/need you" type. I'd like some speech options which are specifially not about my character needing him but clearly trying get his approval or calm his needs or even just to avoid his punishments. When Andrew tries to initiate his own dialogue, he often stays exactly where he is currently standing until you get in range. This can be very annoying when he stays behind a gate or decides to wait near traps.(I had that happen already: "You need to be spanked... while standing on a flaming floor tile!"). Maybe a "Summon Andrew" spell would be good here. Maybe even an option to turn his force-greets off while in dungeons. More variety would also be cool for the punishment animations (different zaz pillory or bound animations maybe). Ditto - I may be one of the few persons and you are of course free to ignore and hate me but I need to say it: I don't like the female voices of the mod for most of the sex scenes. Especially when it's supposed to be the voice of my own character during Volkars scenes. Would it be feasable to add a fith option which plays just a silent voice for the PC (meaning it just displays the text) or maybe plays just sexlab or vanilla voice groans? The current voice acting often sounds a lot too sweet and happy for my taste. There are exceptions, like the Vess/Niri Interrogation scene for example. Some of these might actually be cool to use when training. Currently I feel like the slaves are surprisingly enthusiastic during the first training stages. I like the option of a silent voice. Remind me if I forget as I am working on another thing (Andrew). - Final note for Andrew and/or Sexslaves in general: I currently use Angrim's Apprentice which gives my char some added incentive to actually have regular sex with companions (removing debuffs in earlier quest stages and/or adding buffs after gaining the "drink x" spells). Maybe you could add something similar so it feels more natural that a freshly introduced slave trainer has a more compelling reason for starting to submit to a dominant Andrew, for example. I am actively working on Andrew now. Can you give me some additional details on this "has a more compelling reason for starting to submit to a dominant Andrew,"?
fishburger67 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 Semi - Major Bug This bug affects those of you taking Andrew for a follower. It you do this before you complete the Jarl's Daughter quest and you get into a fight and Andrew goes into bleedout, he will stop being your follower, except that he will follow you. What this means is that he will no longer have dialog like he is a follower, but he still has the follower package on him so he will follow you around. To fix this problem, simply complete the Jarls Daughter quest before taking Andrew as a follower. You can also set currentFollowerFaction (5c84e) to 0 if you are out in the wilds somewhere. I have already fixed this, but the next update is likely a month out, so just be cautious and complete that quest before taking Andrew out.
Thanos Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 -- The very first quest >I am not sure Aqqh wants to spend much more tome on this. A that's totally ok, I was just curious if I should try harder and find more creative ways of solving this. >>-- I've gone through the bondage contract scenario and now both dremora have no greeting dialogue anymore (normal "hello" or "Yes?" greetings I mean) Is this >> a bug? >You have some other issue or haven't completed things. After the bondage thing, you should have mostly the same dialog with Volkar and Vernor depends on who >you have with you and you have cell scans turned on I'll test some more. The rest of their dialoge works fine. It's just the greeting which is completely silent now. (Maybe I just exhausted all vanilla greetings) -Cerwiden This NPC probably has an outfit. Also, if you have AFT, make sure it is managing inventory or things are screwy. Yes she has a custom script for managing mutliple outfits, I turned that off but it seems play own it's own when she's not an active follower. No sweat really, custom companions are tricky and I was actually surprised this worked so well otherwise... I'm curious to see how the Vilja and Sofia companions agree with slave training. > I like the option of a silent voice. Remind me if I forget as I am working on another thing (Andrew). And now I'm exited for the next version. Andrew alone is cool enough to be a standalone follower actually. But his interaction with the rest of the mod is still nice so far. I like the comments about having other girls available when you annoy him. (I never checked if he actually does anything with them so far). I am actively working on Andrew now. Can you give me some additional details on this "has a more compelling reason for starting to submit to a dominant Andrew,"? Well "simple" reasons could include some positive reinforcement. He's rich I think? So he might just reward you with gold or valuables or some rare and effective potions only he can make (or know where to buy) for being "a good girl" at first. He could also promise some even greater rewards (like a noble title, a giant house, awesome powers). Depending on how you see it this is either a lie, or a plan for the far future. Submitting could also give the PC (or him) some magic effect boosts for a few hours like "confident submissive" or "used to the pain". Things like speech buffs, armor boosts, certain damage/elemental resistances, more damage for him, experience buffs He could be an actually great trainer and reward you with (random?) skill expecience (I'm not sure if scripts need to always add whole skillpoints or can just add certain experience values, like regular skill checks do). He could provide some unique healing/shielding/rescuing abilities or and so be a very valueable companion (or just claim to do so, regardless of the actual implementation). "Cheesier" options could include: - some magic abilities he has and which require sex (and also add buffs to him or the PC). - Maybe some other character (or diaries of other girls) talk about his magic abilities/combat prowess or just about how great he is in bed and this makes the PC so curious she decides to give it a try - some exotic properties he has or which are tied to him/his "juices" (like being very addictive and so you really need it after a while or you get certain debuffs for a time). This would of course require some first exposure so mabye it's more a "later" incentive. Or maybe Volkar includes him in training/punishing you and thus you get this early on and can either go "cold turkey" or do the easy thing and submit (for extra evulz this could be a repeatable scenario). - Like the above but Andrew is actually the "antidote" to something you are exposed to. This could also not mean the sex but just his actual presense (an aura or something). So the sex would just be price to keep him around and not wander back like it's already done. The actual effect could later be gone so by that point the PC can decide if she wants to stop submitting (this could include some skill checks or number rolls agains a difficulty that depends on how used you already are to him). -Edit: I forgot the more obious options: The reason used in the Angrim's Appentrice quest is simply power. Angrim teaches you spells to enhance your magica, health, magic abilites or "greater powers" which need sex to be actived. You could do something similar but be specific to Andrew (and/or Jenny, Sasha) Would work for dominant or submissve characters. - Andrew could cast some buff or make some useful things (potions or items) for you but either require sex or have more difficult options (like Gold, rare Ingredients, some tedious Action) so you can decide what to do and after a while the player is actually motivated to just take the "ease route". -And the most obvious: Quests which require him specifially so you actively need to keep him around (again works with the current system for any type character). Reasons why you need him could be meeting someone who knows him (business partner, relative etc.) and so he needs to be with you or going to a place he needs to lead you to. Or just using something (key, password, magic spell, family heirloom) which he refuses to give/teach you and thus you need to take him with you. This is all very vague of course but I guess you'd prefer not have to read through a whole bunch of quest ideas? Maybe I can think of other things, but a lot of this sounds like hard work and I don't want to overwhelm you with complety unrealistic (or stupid) ideas.
aqqh Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 -- The very first quest >I am not sure Aqqh wants to spend much more tome on this. A that's totally ok, I was just curious if I should try harder and find more creative ways of solving this. If enough ppl would ask for it i might be convinced. Had an idea or two of how this could go.
ixmir Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Hi fishburger, thanks a lot! After finally bonding with Mia, I cant start any dialogue with her - when I try to talk, she just answers "..." and thats it. Any suggestions? After the bonding scene, there should a dialog to recruit her or send her home. Did you get that? If not, make a papyrus log of bonding scene and post it. Yes, that dialog came - played it through again, no matter if I taker her with me or send her home - as soon as this dialog ends, she not responding anything else than "..." Heres the log of the bonding scene: Replaying the bonding I noticed that Mia also responds with "..." before that scene, but until then it is possible to talk to her after 1-3 attempts. Clearing from trainee 1 This line from your log tells me that you successfully made her a follower or sent her home. She will then have a sexslave faction rank which will give her the sex slave dialog. If you don't have that, some other mod is interferring. SexSlave faction is xx085b5 where the xx is the MiasLair mod load order number in hex. in console getfactionrank xx085b5 should return > 0. If it does and you don't have sex slave dialog, you have some other issue. Thank you very much for giving me directions! I played around a bit and came to the conclusion that something with updating this mod (and a bunch of other mods) while training mia must have gone wrong - comletely removing sex slaves and starting its quests from scratch with the new version seems to have solved it.
just_Gina Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 @Thanos Andrew pretty much knows the Dom/sub or neutral of the PC from their first interaction. It is not very hard to lead a submissive further into submission. All it takes is some positive reinforcing. I think a compelling reason could be done thru dialog alone. A "good girl" now and then can work wonders. The more you submit to Andrew the better pleased he is, and the more he demands. Of course the PC, being submissive, wants to please him. Depending on the work involved, there could be something like a will-power meter, where the more you submit, the diolog to not submit disappears, until there is only submissive diolog left.
fishburger67 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 @Thanos Andrew pretty much knows the Dom/sub or neutral of the PC from their first interaction. It is not very hard to lead a submissive further into submission. All it takes is some positive reinforcing. I think a compelling reason could be done thru dialog alone. A "good girl" now and then can work wonders. The more you submit to Andrew the better pleased he is, and the more he demands. Of course the PC, being submissive, wants to please him. Depending on the work involved, there could be something like a will-power meter, where the more you submit, the diolog to not submit disappears, until there is only submissive diolog left. Thanks for the feedback. This is pretty much the path I am taking with some additional wrinkles.
fishburger67 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 Aw, c'mon fish give it a try, in my mind i was trying to keep them true to the originals and their role/personality so if you can't figure them out it means i failed lol. Btw, the door on the inside of the forge room has no collision, you can go through it. Alright, here are my guesses Sasha, Mia, Jenny Nymphadora, Niri, Vess, Linda And thanks for the door heads up. most say I download this mod over the weeknd and love all of it would have post sooner but network went out. anyway I love it all but have to say this I think there should be an option that you end up slave yourself to someone who turn you into a sexslave, I be wathc and follow and hope when elder scroll 6 come out when ever that happen, you make this mod into it You can become a slave yourself if you play as a female. Finish the main quest and then go talk to Volkar. It will likely be 6 months to a year after ES 6 comes out before the produce a Creation Kit for it. Then, it will take a while to get Sex Lab and Zaz running. When those two are finished, I will jump right in and get Sex Slaves running. I have a question, is there something to do with Alva in this mod? Or am I thinking of another mod and improperly supposing that info on this mod? I could not find reference to it on the main page....that does not mean I am wrong though. You do like your secrets Nope, never heard of Alva http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Alva This is Alva. She's a slutty vampire in the game who seduced some guy and then had his family murdered. She has some interesting lines if you try to talk to her if you're a vampire yourself. Oh yes, I remember her now. Been so long that I had forgotten her. But no, we have not used her but I do like the idea.
Thanos Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 @Thanos Andrew pretty much knows the Dom/sub or neutral of the PC from their first interaction. It is not very hard to lead a submissive further into submission. All it takes is some positive reinforcing. I think a compelling reason could be done thru dialog alone. A "good girl" now and then can work wonders. The more you submit to Andrew the better pleased he is, and the more he demands. Of course the PC, being submissive, wants to please him. Depending on the work involved, there could be something like a will-power meter, where the more you submit, the diolog to not submit disappears, until there is only submissive diolog left. Yes, I think it wouldn't take too much and since the player has to actively decide to make Andrew dominant (it's off by default, i think) there's obviosly interest in that material present. I'm more interested in the "reluctant" submissve type though. Up until you meet Andrew you are handed a whole castle full of slaves and have potentially trained one or two already. So while it would even be fine to leave it as is, I'm just listing some ideas to give a more "natural" feeling transition on why you also decide to travel with Andrew who is the exact opposite. Currently my PC travels with Cerwiden & Sofia who are both pretty much creepy stalker typers; Vilka who is a goody-two-shoes friend and/or romantic interest and is in denial about anything which doesn't fit her view of the character; Jenny who is an utter submissive slave and Andrew who is totally dominant. So it feels a bit.. shizophrenic I guess So I'm thinking less "natural submissive" but more something along the lines of "fixated on Andrew" and the power he has over you.
alpalia Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 its normal that a Dixi (name like this) slave is on the mara temple and didnt require anything for follow me ? she is a black alik'r slave (maybe stupid question, but better to ask as i didnt see this name on description or else Oo)
fishburger67 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Posted July 8, 2015 its normal that a Dixi (name like this) slave is on the mara temple and didnt require anything for follow me ? she is a black alik'r slave (maybe stupid question, but better to ask as i didnt see this name on description or else Oo) Not sure who this Dixi and whether or not she should follow you would depend on the mod that created her. Sex Slaves has a hidden Dixie, but you should never run into her and she has to do with the Temple of Mara. And, there is no such thing as a stupid question. Always better to ask although as in this case, we may not have the answer.
fishburger67 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Posted July 8, 2015 @Thanos Andrew pretty much knows the Dom/sub or neutral of the PC from their first interaction. It is not very hard to lead a submissive further into submission. All it takes is some positive reinforcing. I think a compelling reason could be done thru dialog alone. A "good girl" now and then can work wonders. The more you submit to Andrew the better pleased he is, and the more he demands. Of course the PC, being submissive, wants to please him. Depending on the work involved, there could be something like a will-power meter, where the more you submit, the diolog to not submit disappears, until there is only submissive diolog left. Yes, I think it wouldn't take too much and since the player has to actively decide to make Andrew dominant (it's off by default, i think) there's obviosly interest in that material present. I'm more interested in the "reluctant" submissve type though. Up until you meet Andrew you are handed a whole castle full of slaves and have potentially trained one or two already. So while it would even be fine to leave it as is, I'm just listing some ideas to give a more "natural" feeling transition on why you also decide to travel with Andrew who is the exact opposite. Currently my PC travels with Cerwiden & Sofia who are both pretty much creepy stalker typers; Vilka who is a goody-two-shoes friend and/or romantic interest and is in denial about anything which doesn't fit her view of the character; Jenny who is an utter submissive slave and Andrew who is totally dominant. So it feels a bit.. shizophrenic I guess So I'm thinking less "natural submissive" but more something along the lines of "fixated on Andrew" and the power he has over you. I am trying to make Andrew the best possible follower for female players. His lore is that he is handsome, brave, rich and dominate. It is natural for him to slowly dominate the female PC. He would never force himself on her or "enslave" her. She takes him as a follower because she wants it. He has needs (that are about to increase and diversify significantly) that he needs filled, but so long as she submits, he will stay with her. Currently, if she does not, he just leaves her company. In the next release, he will have other negative consequences that he will utilize as well as additional positive rewards. That is the general outline. If anyone has any ideas on how to flesh this out, there is still time to add more. I have almost done, two pretty fun quests involving him and I expect to add a dozen or so mini-quests.
alpalia Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 its normal that a Dixi (name like this) slave is on the mara temple and didnt require anything for follow me ? she is a black alik'r slave (maybe stupid question, but better to ask as i didnt see this name on description or else Oo) Not sure who this Dixi and whether or not she should follow you would depend on the mod that created her. Sex Slaves has a hidden Dixie, but you should never run into her and she has to do with the Temple of Mara. And, there is no such thing as a stupid question. Always better to ask although as in this case, we may not have the answer. ok i gonna take a pic, i guess she is from this mod, but i not understand why she is at mara temple :/
Old Book Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 I am trying to make Andrew the best possible follower for female players. His lore is that he is handsome, brave, rich and dominate. It is natural for him to slowly dominate the female PC. He would never force himself on her or "enslave" her. She takes him as a follower because she wants it. He has needs (that are about to increase and diversify significantly) that he needs filled, but so long as she submits, he will stay with her. Currently, if she does not, he just leaves her company. In the next release, he will have other negative consequences that he will utilize as well as additional positive rewards. That is the general outline. If anyone has any ideas on how to flesh this out, there is still time to add more. I have almost done, two pretty fun quests involving him and I expect to add a dozen or so mini-quests. This sounds really good. There aren't enough romance mods for female characters, and 50 Shades of Skyrim definitely fills a niche.
fishburger67 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Posted July 8, 2015 Can't find dixie, is she only in 5.1c? You won't find Dixie, she is in the mod, but disabled. its normal that a Dixi (name like this) slave is on the mara temple and didnt require anything for follow me ? she is a black alik'r slave (maybe stupid question, but better to ask as i didnt see this name on description or else Oo) Not sure who this Dixi and whether or not she should follow you would depend on the mod that created her. Sex Slaves has a hidden Dixie, but you should never run into her and she has to do with the Temple of Mara. And, there is no such thing as a stupid question. Always better to ask although as in this case, we may not have the answer. ok i gonna take a pic, i guess she is from this mod, but i not understand why she is at mara temple :/ You won't find Dixie, she is in the mod as a physical asset, but disabled.
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