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4 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

The secret is you should generally only do something for someone else if the act itself is reward enough for you. Don't do something just so you can accrue some sort of imaginary credit that you can cash in on later.

True enough.  Dating is a lousy investment.  Learned that one the hard way.  Pisses me off that it took me as long as it did to understand that.

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16 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

The secret is you should generally only do something for someone else if the act itself is reward enough for you. Don't do something just so you can accrue some sort of imaginary credit that you can cash in on later.

 

15 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Right. Find a prostitute and pay her for sex now. Fuck dating. One good thing about a tanking economy is that they should be easier to find. Wouldn't the world be much happier if everybody gets what they want without the BS? Why can't we ever have a radical movement to legalize drugs and prostitution in this country? Bet your ass I'd be marching in the streets for that shit. :classic_tongue:

 

Unfortunately, I have to agree with both of you.  Contradictory yes, but also no.  Easy enough to say both, but when you find that you're putting "the wrong" type of effort (translation: money, that is, the representation of your time, in addition to your time, compounding the problem) into the wrong type of person (as Mr. Otaku pointed out), you're going to fail, every time.  However:

I've watched as women I thought were decent choices at the time turn out to be horrible people years later.  Pretty on the outside, ugly on the inside.  I've also watched as women I literally grew up with so I KNOW they were raised right ended up jumping off the deep end as soon as they hit puberty and discovered that they could cash in on their sexuality.  Sex with everyone, WHOO HOO!  But then... "The past doesn't matter!"  One of them said exactly that to me.  Welp, I'm glad her husband's okay with her past actions. I sure wouldn't be.  Along the same line, I've heard of men who knew their wife was literally a former prostitute say that they're okay with it.  "That was then and this is now."  All I can feel for those guys is pity.  They're simply the provider, while she "had her fun".  I guess I find it almost impossible to believe that life for a woman can get so bad that she feels she has no other option but to cash in on sex.  Mostly because I know the dangers, and personally don't think any amount of money worth risking those dangers.  Random individual?  Get the fuck out!

As some have pointed out to me, 'there are no guarantees'.  They're absolutely correct in that, and the likelihood of a particular individual following the crowd, going with herd mentality, etc., even if the herd is busy heading for a cliff, well, that likelihood is really, REALLY, high in this society today.

Rant:  Watching opportunities slip though my fingers due to other's restrictions on what they allow me to do, or more to the point, when.  Damn it, I needed to get in a week ago when the opportunity was right!  This timeI have to wait is killing the opportunity!  As I watch, and calculate, and see what it COULD have done for me.  Grumble.  Oh well.  There will be other opportunities.  I have to get my mindset right if I'm going to make a go at this.

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21 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Look, you find one when she's older and kinda losing her looks- they're in a crisis and vulnerable at that point. You'll have her eating out of your hand if you just treat her right, fuck her good. Men start appreciating women instinctively around 12. Women don't learn to appreciate men until they're at least in their 30s. Just my take anyway.

Well, yeah, if all you're after is sex just for sex's sake.  But then you have to be double careful because she knows she's running out of time, and could easily decide to do things without your knowledge to increase the likelihood of a child resulting.


Or, you could go with younger ones.  Yes, they'll be more expensive, but also less likely to be thinking "BABIES!!!", like the older ones are.  I've had a female admit to me that it really is (was, for her) like a "baby switch" at 27 or so.  Biology doesn't knock, it takes a battering ram and smashes the door down.  But in her words "I was fortunate, as I had a man."  And she now has two kids.

The one that really gets me is the guys who "Oh yeah, I used to fuck women left and right.  I had it, and now I have a beautiful kid to show for it!"  That's great sir.  What of us for whom that is NOT a goal, huh?

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59 minutes ago, AKM said:

Well, yeah, if all you're after is sex just for sex's sake.

Well of course you might want more, but sex is a given. :classic_wink:

 

And seriously dude, you're judging her history while ignoring your own? What, does it come down to a count now? You'll get nowhere fast like that and all you're going to hear is screeching brakes followed by a hasty exit.

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2 hours ago, AKM said:

All I can feel for those guys is pity.  They're simply the provider, while she "had her fun".

Really now? You do huh? The more i read your posts the more it reminds me of my catastrophic "redpill" slump two years ago. I wasn't planning on making a response here but since you mentioned me in your post and i caught this line i feel compelled to. You know why "women I thought were decent choices out to be horrible people years later." happens most of the time? Because instead of focusing on knowing each other people focus on trying to make a relationship. These same stories are abundant from the women's side as well where their husbands/boyfriends turned into a different person all of a sudden.

I guess i should blame society for not teaching more relationship things to the young ones but with little observation this is far too clear. You're supposed to "have fun", both the men and women. You're supposed to test waters and explore, then settle when you've gained experience and those that do avoid many complications that arise in relationships that appear to be "pure", for example, becoming sexless in 10 years.

 

Some of the best relationships appear between people who didn't take their relationship too seriously at first. The reason? When someone's not in "relationship mode" they show many more aspects of themselves and over time it becomes clear what someone's really like. Relationships are far simpler once you have your priorities straightened and perspectives grounded.

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3 hours ago, nonusnomeni said:

cultural appropriation

 

In the Iliad, Achilles has blonde hair («ξανθῆς δὲ κόμης ἕλε Πηλεΐωνα» = "she (Athena) grabbed Achilles by his blonde hair"; Iliad, 1.197).

The only appropriate answer is for folks to refuse to watch it if they think it is nonsense.  If folks will do this, they will eventually give up.  Studio's can't take loss after loss forever.   

Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly fine with them choosing an all black cast and making a show, I just won't watch it.  I don't watch empire either.  Neither clearly are made for me.

I also don't think everything "has" to be perfectly historically accurate either.  But switching gender and race "just cause" are not something I'm much interested in.  Perhaps others are and that is fine.  It isn't all about me after all.  But i get to choose what I will and won't support.  No one gets any say on that, just as I don't get to pick for others.  Do what makes sense to you.

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On 8/24/2020 at 12:52 AM, Darkpig said:

Lovely speech. Now we just need some numbers and we're good to go. Not much but like male antagonists vs female antagonists in movies.

 

But since I hate statistics I'll just add my input. People had this idea of boys go to war for like ever. Fetish wise some men and women are into that. The other fetish I hear about is rich successful doctors or they don't have to be doctors, they just have to be rich and successful. Can't really blame them though? Who doesn't want nine zeros in their bank account? Not including change of course. Thankfully rich successful men don't grow on trees and these dumb fools will look forever and it will be hilarious.

 

As for men being painted as bad guys. Men had a head start due to you guessed it boys going to war. Well it doesn't have to be war it could be something else that involves protecting the home so that women can stay inside to tend the children. Women being antagonists in media is still a relatively new thing and so is women being protagonists but both protagonists and antagonists are violent as hell so give it time and women will be put under a microscope soon enough.

 

To make sure I cover all the bases marriage and child custody is stupid. I will admit that Parents arguing over who gets the brat tickles my funny bone but now I'm just rambling. I have read that courts tend to favor the mother in child custody cases. I didn't do much research into this as marriage is an outdated construct anyway. :lol:

 

As for many things like feminism they can be traced back to history where fathers would reject you or even kill you for even suggesting to marry their daughters. Nowadays it is the daughters doing the rejection. Don't worry though. Teenagers will figure it out eventually.

 

One concern I have is that women are overall better looking than men so if humanity wants a fair court system they should avoid biases as much as possible.

 

I know that avoiding biased groups will be impossible. For example the #MeToo or the Black Lives Matter movement is either going to stay or it is going to be replaced because that is politics in a nutshell. There will always be a need for specialists and those two fit the niche.

 

What do you think? Do you think there is somebody out there who can support equality for all and somehow sort out all the legal jargon?

I just realized this is relationship advice which I know nothing about. Way to go posting about topics you know nothing about Darkpig.:lol:

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19 hours ago, nonusnomeni said:

cultural appropriation

 

In the Iliad, Achilles has blonde hair («ξανθῆς δὲ κόμης ἕλε Πηλεΐωνα» = "she (Athena) grabbed Achilles by his blonde hair"; Iliad, 1.197).

 

 

Im still waiting for someone actually reversing it - make famous black character white, so i could throw this shit into the face of any leftist that will start to screech about whitewashing.

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21 hours ago, nonusnomeni said:

cultural appropriation

 

In the Iliad, Achilles has blonde hair («ξανθῆς δὲ κόμης ἕλε Πηλεΐωνα» = "she (Athena) grabbed Achilles by his blonde hair"; Iliad, 1.197).

 

 

What I don't quite get is how self-defeating all of this is. Doing a black fiction version of history could be cool on its own, but they often go a step further and remove the fiction and try to sell it as history. But then the question arises: If black people were in power and prevalent throughout european history since the ancient greeks, how exactly does that fit with the 'white colonialism' narrative? Either you can say that white europeans were colonizers or that white europeans are trying to whitewash european history, you can't have both. It's one or the other.

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It's a fucking shame really that these idiots stirred up racial hatred and bigotry in the country when it was largely on the mend. I was slowly dealing with my own prejudice and was improving I think. And if these leftest fools think they want freedom and democracy replaced with socialism, then they need to take a closer look at CCP and get used to being "conditioned" and monitored 24/7 by the state and thrown into labor camps (or worse) the second they or anyone they care about even hint at stepping out of line. Mom says hello with her new pc sanitized hubby- your new daddy. Oh apple pie and this 4th of July you ask? Hold on while I make this other call, Sweety and you stay put.

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17 hours ago, Canaris said:

Im still waiting for someone actually reversing it - make famous black character white, so i could throw this shit into the face of any leftist that will start to screech about whitewashing.

I have it.  The perfect show to start with, Fat Albert.  Start with a cartoon.  It would drive those tards so insane that their heads would pop.  And think how foolish they would look complaining about a cartoon.  I can almost see it now.  ?

 

16 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

What I don't quite get is how self-defeating all of this is. Doing a black fiction version of history could be cool on its own, but they often go a step further and remove the fiction and try to sell it as history. But then the question arises: If black people were in power and prevalent throughout european history since the ancient greeks, how exactly does that fit with the 'white colonialism' narrative? Either you can say that white europeans were colonizers or that white europeans are trying to whitewash european history, you can't have both. It's one or the other.

Exactly.  But this type of double standard is pretty common with the so called "enlightened, inclusive and tolerant" crowd.  So very, very sad.

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19 minutes ago, gregathit said:

Exactly.  But this type of double standard is pretty common with the so called "enlightened, inclusive and tolerant" crowd.  So very, very sad.

If it wasn't for double standards, "liberals" would have no standards at all.

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1 minute ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Being liberal minded and claiming to be a "liberal" are two very different things. You can understand what makes your country great while also realizing that some things could be better. All or nothing is absolutism.

Why do you think I quoted liberal? 

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1 minute ago, KoolHndLuke said:

More pointing out the distinction for myself I guess. Might have felt a bit defensive. :classic_tongue:

It's fine. No most people fall into the "default liberal" camp, at one time I'd have classified as a liberal myself. The problem is the term has been hijacked by illiberal sociopaths.

 

 

... not to mention the fact that liberalism is a right wing position in the first place, the left just renamed it "classical liberalism" so they could claim socialism is liberal. Yeah, force the government to take my money, my car, and my rights... real liberal of ya buddy. ?

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8 minutes ago, GimmeBACON said:

It's fine. No most people fall into the "default liberal" camp, at one time I'd have classified as a liberal myself. The problem is the term has been hijacked by illiberal sociopaths.

 

 

... not to mention the fact that liberalism is a right wing position in the first place, the left just renamed it "classical liberalism" so they could claim socialism is liberal. Yeah, force the government to take my money, my car, and my rights... real liberal of ya buddy. ?

At this point i don't even know what i'm supposed to be with all these labels and fragmentation of definitions. And i find myself being increasingly apathetic towards all this by the day, i guess that makes me a fence sitter? I don't know.

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1 minute ago, Mr.Otaku said:

At this point i don't even know what i'm supposed to be with all these labels and fragmentation of definitions. And i find myself being increasingly apathetic towards all this by the day, i guess that makes me a fence sitter? I don't know.

Tired... you're supposed to be tired and give up. Partisan bullshit is breaking the country down. Now it's the battle of tribe instead of the battle of ideas.

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16 minutes ago, Mr.Otaku said:

At this point i don't even know what i'm supposed to be with all these labels and fragmentation of definitions. And i find myself being increasingly apathetic towards all this by the day, i guess that makes me a fence sitter? I don't know.

Just give your opinion on a key or "hot" topic and someone will be along shortly to slap a label on for you. You'll find out pretty fast who your real friends are- the ones willing to listen even if they don't agree with you. Weigh the merits of someone's argument and decide for yourself. :classic_wink:

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19 hours ago, Canaris said:

Im still waiting for someone actually reversing it - make famous black character white, so i could throw this shit into the face of any leftist that will start to screech about whitewashing.

Doctor Strange's the Ancient One... and the left REEEEE'd, and learned nothing.

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