Slorm Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Many thanks for the upgrade Kimy I've got two questions: In the sex attack section under attack types, what's the arousal threshold for it to trigger? The new Chance to get tied up slider - is the action the same as the old toggle, that is the pc is tied up and then fitted with devices at animation end, or does it just tie you up for the animation now?
Kimy Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Many thanks for the upgrade Kimy I've got two questions: In the sex attack section under attack types, what's the arousal threshold for it to trigger? The new Chance to get tied up slider - is the action the same as the old toggle, that is the pc is tied up and then fitted with devices at animation end, or does it just tie you up for the animation now? The threshold is 75. You will get notified when you're over it. The tie-up -can- happen before the animation starts, but only for twosomes, as there are no bound animations for SL. Most of the time it will happen after the fact.
zouzou Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Thank you for the update Kimy, I will test that right along.
CGi Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Deviously Cursed Loot V4.5: German Content: - localized ESP - string tables for all 17 languages (all in english, except german) Not included: - translated MCM (i'll very likely not do it, until Kimy utilizes SKSE translation files.) - Frostfall patch (nothing to translate there) installation MO: - Use the existing mod as target and choose "Merge" when prompted. Installation NMM/TMM/Wrye/Manual: - Choose overwrite, when prompted. Note @Kimy:i cleaned the ESP from a few iTM records.if those where intended, then i'll re-upload the ESP unchanged. [Attachement deleted - uploaded to the official download section.]
zouzou Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Hi Kimy, I did a quick test, I notice two thing : - the test button for Damsel in distress disapear - Same goes for the button that give a set of key (I do not miss it, the safeword work fine) I didn't have to time to test it but did you by any chance correct the bug when you can have a yoke and the rubber glove equip at the same time ?
Slorm Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 LOL this is the only mod I have to consult a spreadsheet to set up Another question on the sex attack parameters, how will this interact with Deviously Helpless as some of the functionality look similar in parts. Also , the default 35 metre effect range, is that LOS or will it work through walls/sneak etc?
Khe Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 All of the mods involved are up to date, I checked on that once the problem had started, and all the mods on the game presently were installed at the start of the game. I recently attempted to clean out my existing savegames, only to invalidate them all, and having to start entirely anew. As for those, I'm not sure what either of those would be caused by. I can't think of a single mod of mine that specifically affects anything in the Blue Palace or house building stuff. I'll attach my mod list, if it might help figure things out... There's some mods in there that I've not heard of but nothing that would appear to be a problem. You say that those mods do not affect house building or the Blue Palace, nevertheless your log is being spammed with errors so something is causing a problem (or something that you've uninstalled previously). What mod manager are you using to install mods and are you using LOOT to sort them? I assume from what you said that a save game cleaner effectively killed your save which would indicate serious problems. Cleaners can be effective when used in a controlled manner (e.g. remove one mod then clean, save and then replace mod with update) but they can't work miracles and where there are historic or multiple script problems can break a game entirely. Also the effects from some scripts simply cannot be removed (usually when NPC AI is changed) and the only answer is to start a new game. It might be best to take this to pm (though I'm not sure I can help further) as it's not really a DCL issue so getting off topic blue palace arena script is broken originally. there are script fixes out there to be gotten to fix it. same with the dustdropfx script. also, the byoh scripts are, I believe, also part of the game (but not sure on those ones.) they're not as bad as the critter scripts (jk, the blue palace arena script is almost as bad). and yes, it's not to do with DCL. it's a vanilla skyrim problem.
Slorm Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Seem to have a dialogue bug (I'm not running SD+ by the way) All the NPC's in Whiterun have an extra dialogue line that says "Please accept me as your slave". If you choose that line the NPC then replies "Kneel down then". Nothing further happens after that Not sure what's causing this, I'm not wearing any devices and I've also tested with solicitation set to Never but the dialogue line still appears. Let me know if you need a log or screenshots
baronesa Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Seem to have a dialogue bug (I'm not running SD+ by the way) All the NPC's in Whiterun have an extra dialogue line that says "Please accept me as your slave". If you choose that line the NPC then replies "Kneel down then". Nothing further happens after that Not sure what's causing this, I'm not wearing any devices and I've also tested with solicitation set to Never but the dialogue line still appears. Let me know if you need a log or screenshots I just got that same line but on Solitude... I use it and nothing else happens. Maybe it appears on all characters?
Slorm Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Seem to have a dialogue bug (I'm not running SD+ by the way) All the NPC's in Whiterun have an extra dialogue line that says "Please accept me as your slave". If you choose that line the NPC then replies "Kneel down then". Nothing further happens after that Not sure what's causing this, I'm not wearing any devices and I've also tested with solicitation set to Never but the dialogue line still appears. Let me know if you need a log or screenshots I just got that same line but on Solitude... I use it and nothing else happens. Maybe it appears on all characters? I've just tested using a new character and it's not happening so looks like an upgrade problem. Mine was a cleaned game, though I jumped from V4.3 to V4.5
hardcorefreak Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 hello, i like to know something Slave / slut collar says im wearing clothing/armor but im not I got some DD item equiped but not armor . I got this since 4.5, 4.4 was fine or did you change it so there cant be any DD equiped ?
Kimy Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Hi Kimy, I did a quick test, I notice two thing : - the test button for Damsel in distress disapear - Same goes for the button that give a set of key (I do not miss it, the safeword work fine) I didn't have to time to test it but did you by any chance correct the bug when you can have a yoke and the rubber glove equip at the same time ? The test button is gone. It was not intentional to leave it in last time. Test buttons are called test buttons for a reason! LOL this is the only mod I have to consult a spreadsheet to set up Another question on the sex attack parameters, how will this interact with Deviously Helpless as some of the functionality look similar in parts. Also , the default 35 metre effect range, is that LOS or will it work through walls/sneak etc? The 35 metre range does not care about LOS/detection, but the actual detection check triggers only when the PC is considered "detected" or not in stealth anyway. Seem to have a dialogue bug (I'm not running SD+ by the way) All the NPC's in Whiterun have an extra dialogue line that says "Please accept me as your slave". If you choose that line the NPC then replies "Kneel down then". Nothing further happens after that Not sure what's causing this, I'm not wearing any devices and I've also tested with solicitation set to Never but the dialogue line still appears. Let me know if you need a log or screenshots That dialogue is not from Cursed Loot. hello, i like to know something Slave / slut collar says im wearing clothing/armor but im not I got some DD item equiped but not armor . I got this since 4.5, 4.4 was fine or did you change it so there cant be any DD equiped ? It obviously shouldn't happen. Are you sure you're not wearing anything? Because I can't remember changing that function between 4.4. and 4.5. Not saying it's not possible that I broke it, of course. *giggles*
Slorm Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Seem to have a dialogue bug (I'm not running SD+ by the way) All the NPC's in Whiterun have an extra dialogue line that says "Please accept me as your slave". If you choose that line the NPC then replies "Kneel down then". Nothing further happens after that Not sure what's causing this, I'm not wearing any devices and I've also tested with solicitation set to Never but the dialogue line still appears. Let me know if you need a log or screenshots That dialogue is not from Cursed Loot. Well, I've no idea where it's come from , this is the first update I've done on this game. I've reinstalled the backup game using DCL V4.3 and it's disappeared, so something in v4.5 is causing it to trigger. I don't have any slavery mods at all so I just can't think where it's coming from. I'll try doing a dirty update to see if that works
Kimy Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Seem to have a dialogue bug (I'm not running SD+ by the way) All the NPC's in Whiterun have an extra dialogue line that says "Please accept me as your slave". If you choose that line the NPC then replies "Kneel down then". Nothing further happens after that Not sure what's causing this, I'm not wearing any devices and I've also tested with solicitation set to Never but the dialogue line still appears. Let me know if you need a log or screenshots That dialogue is not from Cursed Loot. Well, I've no idea where it's come from , this is the first update I've done on this game. I've reinstalled the backup game using DCL V4.3 and it's disappeared, so something in v4.5 is causing it to trigger. I don't have any slavery mods at all so I just can't think where it's coming from. I'll try doing a dirty update to see if that works Oh wait... this actually IS from Cursed Loot. It belongs to a quest that's not yet active. I will...disable it again.
Slorm Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Oh wait... this actually IS from Cursed Loot. It belongs to a quest that's not yet active. I will...disable it again. Phew, you had me worried there
Kimy Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Oh wait... this actually IS from Cursed Loot. It belongs to a quest that's not yet active. I will...disable it again. Phew, you had me worried there Haha, nevermind me. I can be dense at times, enough to no longer recognize dialogue that I actually wrote.
AdorableDeviant Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 All of the mods involved are up to date, I checked on that once the problem had started, and all the mods on the game presently were installed at the start of the game. I recently attempted to clean out my existing savegames, only to invalidate them all, and having to start entirely anew. As for those, I'm not sure what either of those would be caused by. I can't think of a single mod of mine that specifically affects anything in the Blue Palace or house building stuff. I'll attach my mod list, if it might help figure things out... There's some mods in there that I've not heard of but nothing that would appear to be a problem. You say that those mods do not affect house building or the Blue Palace, nevertheless your log is being spammed with errors so something is causing a problem (or something that you've uninstalled previously). What mod manager are you using to install mods and are you using LOOT to sort them? I assume from what you said that a save game cleaner effectively killed your save which would indicate serious problems. Cleaners can be effective when used in a controlled manner (e.g. remove one mod then clean, save and then replace mod with update) but they can't work miracles and where there are historic or multiple script problems can break a game entirely. Also the effects from some scripts simply cannot be removed (usually when NPC AI is changed) and the only answer is to start a new game. It might be best to take this to pm (though I'm not sure I can help further) as it's not really a DCL issue so getting off topic The root problem is DCL not working with Estrus Chaurus. Any savegame cleaner issues are in the past, as I've started a totally new game, and assuming some huge error hasn't come up that'll require a fresh Skyrim and mod reinstall [pleaseno] I can't see how any past issues would explain my newest savegame having these issues. Someone mentioned that the Blue Palace stuff is a skyrim vanilla issue, so I suppose I'll have to bear it, unless someone has any suggestions for fixes, would be muchly appreciated. As for mod organizers, I'm using NMM myself, and it also is fully up-to-date. I don't use LOOT, but I do carefully manage my load order, and at the moment, there are no inconsistencies. [Trust me, I've checked enough times that I have confidence.]
AdorableDeviant Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Huh. Now upgraded to 4.5, and I must say... if you get just a BIT more customization on what restraints actually trigger the sex attacks, I'll probably be dropping Deviously Helpless from my list, since you're pretty much covering everything I want from it anyway! My main complaint with the bondage gear is the boots triggering rape. I'm a combative ponygirl archer! Do hate it when I get shut down just because of my footwear. If they get me in an armbinder or with my eyes locked away, well, I can't say a thing!
hardcorefreak Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 hello, i like to know something Slave / slut collar says im wearing clothing/armor but im not I got some DD item equiped but not armor . I got this since 4.5, 4.4 was fine or did you change it so there cant be any DD equiped ? It obviously shouldn't happen. Are you sure you're not wearing anything? Because I can't remember changing that function between 4.4. and 4.5. Not saying it's not possible that I broke it, of course. *giggles* mmm strange, im certain im not wearing anything Its happening with the rubber suit (non slave and slave version!) and with the high security harness. meh i dont mind just going back to 4.4 and wait till next update and try again
iggypop1 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Just tried this mod out I seems that its 100% shure to get raped if you have a collar on even if your not aroused ,wearing armor and have weapons in hand, you just auto surrender, is that true? If thats true its a little over the top. I too was wondering about the the" Lines without a Quest" sounds good for the next update
DbatRT Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Thanks for the update!I just have a question. What is the status of the quest, which is still created. I am referring to the unfinished quest with the theme of slavery and Leon (I do not remember the name). Work on it is conducted?Sorry for the bad english.
BTAxis Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Just tried this mod out I seems that its 100% shure to get raped if you have a collar on even if your not aroused ,wearing armor and have weapons in hand, you just auto surrender, is that true? If thats true its a little over the top. I too was wondering about the the" Lines without a Quest" sounds good for the next update Check if you have Deviously Enslaved installed. This mod does much the same thing, but it triggers on collars. Cursed Loot checks for armbinders, yokes, blindfolds, boots and hoods. See function isRestrained() in dcur_library.psc. @Kimy: Actually, I'm going to add collars to that for my personal use. I was using Enslaved myself, but Cursed Loot does it better, heh. I still want it to trigger on collars though.
Verstort Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Thanks for the update! I just have a question. What is the status of the quest, which is still created. I am referring to the unfinished quest with the theme of slavery and Leon (I do not remember the name). Work on it is conducted? Sorry for the bad english. It looks like work on it is still underway, but not completed. I don't remember there being quite that many scripts for it last time I went diving, and that bug from last page looks like it was caused by kimy not disabling the quest for this release (by accident), which means she's working on it actively. I'm just speculating, though...
NickyA Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Any way I can disable the "Will you enslave me?" dialogue option? Also, I'm getting a little glitch where following a scene my game crashes.
Slorm Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Any way I can disable the "Will you enslave me?" dialogue option? Also, I'm getting a little glitch where following a scene my game crashes. It's a quest that shouldn't have been activated yet. Kimy's working on it
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