Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[kyjivzvcm]

Quick bug report: Something is broken when it comes to finding keys in containers that are in safe locations, player homes, inn and jails. Essentially the mod isn't flagging them as being already looted so its possible to just sit there and spam open and close on a chest for unlimited keys.

[UrbanSniper]

Quick bug report: Something is broken when it comes to finding keys in containers that are in safe locations, player homes, inn and jails. Essentially the mod isn't flagging them as being already looted so its possible to just sit there and spam open and close on a chest for unlimited keys.

 

I got the same thing from any containers and vegetation in and around Whiterun, Solitude, and Windhelm.  Two circuits through each city, and the Katla Farm, had me swimming in keys. Still, very entertaining quest nonetheless.

 

EDIT - Also, I noticed that I could just run through the garden at the farm or any previously picked vegetation that shouldn't be able to be activated, and indeed, I don't get the prompt for it, but I still got a key or two more often than not.

[CliftonJD]

could you add a version of the rubber suit that would instead of blocking armor, be worn underneath it same as a chastity or bra or harness, would be a good alternative in situations when the player can't be locked into a rubbersuit cuz its already locked into something else blocking armor (like the spriggan host body for example)

[Gameplayer]

 

 

DD Restrained is officially incompatible with Cursed Loot. It's in the Readme that nobody ever reads!

 

Thanks for the heads up. Just came across this mod and it looks pretty cool (Estrus Chests + Devious Devices + and some extra quests to boot). I can't beleive I missed that whe reading the description. I'm going to uninstall Restrained and run a script cleaner before I test out your mod.

 

Are there any other incompatibilities I should know about? Does this mod work with Dangerous Nights? Deviously Helpless?

 

 

It works fine with Helpless. You may want to disable Cursed Loot sleep attacks if you still use Dangerous nights, to avoid duplication. Cursed Loot (to my knowledge) doesn't support animal attacks, but pretty much replaces the dangerous nights human attacks.

 

 

Dangerous Nights shouldn't be in your load order with CDL, whole point was to make a version of DN that would function correctly with DD mods.

DR mod doesn't function properly with Integration since the summer and since GAG dialogue is in DDi there isn't much reason for it to be updated.

 

Don't know if those will or should see updates even as their pretty much incorporated into devious mods as it stands.

[Vaelorian]

This might sound crazy, but I have yet another request for you to (probably) ignore like all the previous ones:

Could I persuade you to add a toggle for the hood? I mean, I know you want to lock the player character in as many restraints as possible, but to some (me included) the hood is an extreme turn-off, and it would be rather nice if we could actually see our character's face as she runs around trying to collect keys, rather than a plastic mannequin with a burlap sack on it's face.

 

You don't have to, of course - it's (as always) your mod and you'll do whatever you please with it, but... It wouldn't take too long to add. And it wouldn't hurt the mod. And it'd be nice of you.

[Kimy]

The hood doesn't drop in regular events. It's just used for the new quest. If I ever drop it in regular events (ok. I will, but not the hood model I used, I am waiting for something faaaaar better), I will absolutely add a toggle for it.

 

I ignored your suggestions? Are you sure they aren't in the mile-long list of nice ideas I still plan to add....eventually. You know, in a time and age when a day has more than 24 hours?

[Nalessa]

I like it, can't wait for the restrictive hood to be done (seems koffi is almost done with it!) to make it look even better.

Tried talking him into doing a restrictive suit, but didn't seem he's interested in it, would have been great to have a bodysuit with the restrictive quality to go along the other stuff.

 

And if you don't like the new event, look at the description, it's basically not an event for everyone.

Don't like it? put weight to 0 so it doesn't procc.

Or use console to equip the items bar the hood and there you go.

 

 

[Vaelorian]

I am pretty sure you have, unfortunately; all my suggestions\requests were in the lines of "Perhaps this could use a toggle" and "Maybe an option to allow\disallow this in such and such scenario". At their most demanding in terms of time, they were "perhaps you could allow.. In the event that..." but if Skyrim is anything like any of the scripting languages I've ever dealt with (and I have dealt with quite a few) then most of my requests should have taken no longer than a few minutes.

 

For example, in this particular scenario, adding a "Never equip hoods" toggle to the MCM menu, which can then be used for every other event which might feature them. A simple addition to the MCM menu, I would imagine - and an even simpler 'if' check.

 

Regardless; I requested, you declined, and now I will proceed to edit my esp to remove the hood - because frankly if I can't see a girl's face I simply cannot be attracted or aroused by her in any way.

And I play my Skyrim primarily as a porn game.

 

Because I can,

-V

[Kimy]

I am pretty sure you have, unfortunately; all my suggestions\requests were in the lines of "Perhaps this could use a toggle" and "Maybe an option to allow\disallow this in such and such scenario". At their most demanding in terms of time, they were "perhaps you could allow.. In the event that..." but if Skyrim is anything like any of the scripting languages I've ever dealt with (and I have dealt with quite a few) then most of my requests should have taken no longer than a few minutes.

 

For example, in this particular scenario, adding a "Never equip hoods" toggle to the MCM menu, which can then be used for every other event which might feature them. A simple addition to the MCM menu, I would imagine - and an even simpler 'if' check.

 

Regardless; I requested, you declined, and now I will proceed to edit my esp to remove the hood - because frankly if I can't see a girl's face I simply cannot be attracted or aroused by her in any way.

And I play my Skyrim primarily as a porn game.

 

Because I can,

-V

 

If it were this simple in this case. But it's a quest chain, and making the hood optional would involve me writing a fair chunk of code to deal with the circumstance that a hood might or might not be equipped. Yes, if you just remove the hood from the drop list, you -will- break the quest. Just saying.

 

[Vaelorian]

Not with the kind of "removal" I used, apparently, because things seem to be working in order to me.

Of course, the problems could just be waiting later on, but those will be dealt with as they come.

[Koffii]

Congrats on the new release Kimy!

 

I like it, can't wait for the restrictive hood to be done (seems koffi is almost done with it!) to make it look even better.

I still have the gag plugs to model for it.

 

Tried talking him into doing a restrictive suit, but didn't seem he's interested in it,

I am working on a catsuit (way too undercooked to show yet), but it's just a catsuit, to solve the problem of the current one not having a UNP version. I just don't get what a "restrictive" suit would look like. I consider the set of restrictive items to be a suit of sorts. So if you want something, provide pics plz, and if I like it, I might make one.

[Kimy]

The first association I had for "suit" and "restrictive" was straitjacket.

 

Looking forward to the catsuit, Kof!

[Nalessa]

Congrats on the new release Kimy!

 

I like it, can't wait for the restrictive hood to be done (seems koffi is almost done with it!) to make it look even better.

I still have the gag plugs to model for it.

 

Tried talking him into doing a restrictive suit, but didn't seem he's interested in it,

I am working on a catsuit (way too undercooked to show yet), but it's just a catsuit, to solve the problem of the current one not having a UNP version. I just don't get what a "restrictive" suit would look like. I consider the set of restrictive items to be a suit of sorts. So if you want something, provide pics plz, and if I like it, I might make one.

 

That's kinda what I ment, something like the catsuit that's already used, but with the same style of look as the dd/restrictive gear.

Sort of like when you equip all restrictive gear, but all the parts of the body that are still visible would also be covered completely.

 

The base suit can be unlocked with one key just like all the other base gear, I'm sure kimy wouldn't mind adding additional keys needed for it

 

Straightjacket is prob not gonna happen, as it would need specific animations, so someone would have to make those.

But incase someone would make those ...

 

 

[Koffii]

Like I said, pics please. I still don't get it.

 

[Kimy]

 

Congrats on the new release Kimy!

 

I like it, can't wait for the restrictive hood to be done (seems koffi is almost done with it!) to make it look even better.

I still have the gag plugs to model for it.

 

Tried talking him into doing a restrictive suit, but didn't seem he's interested in it,

I am working on a catsuit (way too undercooked to show yet), but it's just a catsuit, to solve the problem of the current one not having a UNP version. I just don't get what a "restrictive" suit would look like. I consider the set of restrictive items to be a suit of sorts. So if you want something, provide pics plz, and if I like it, I might make one.

 

That's kinda what I ment, something like the catsuit that's already used, but with the same style of look as the dd/restrictive gear.

Sort of like when you equip all restrictive gear, but all the parts of the body that are still visible would also be covered completely.

 

The base suit can be unlocked with one key just like all the other base gear, I'm sure kimy wouldn't mind adding additional keys needed for it

 

Straightjacket is prob not gonna happen, as it would need specific animations, so someone would have to make those.

But incase someone would make those ...

 

 

 

 

Isn't the item in your pictures called a...straightjacket?

 

Anyway, not that I could do these animations, but since a straightjacket keeps the arms static the same way the armbinder or yoke does...I would assume it's doable.

 

And I would never require an outrageous amount of keys to unlock a restraint. Never.

[Inte]

I’d like to second that toggle for the hood for the new quest.

Now I know you probably love it, I know Aelie does, she drove me crazy with the blindfold in LADL. I just do not see the appeal of staring at a blank screen for hours, (I play hardcore). It’s one thing to explore the abandoned prison in one where it is relatively safe, trying to memorize a whole room and then explore it in darkness, and another when you have a sabercat gnawing on your ass.

[Zydar]

I see that DCL 4.4 now includes NPCs making comments (and act upon it too), so would this be affected by having More Devious Quest in the load order? It also includes NPC comments, along with other stuffs to go with it.

[Kimy]

I’d like to second that toggle for the hood for the new quest.

 

Now I know you probably love it, I know Aelie does, she drove me crazy with it in LADL. I just do not see the appeal of staring at a blank screen for hours, (I play hardcore). It’s one thing to explore the abandoned prison in one where it is relatively safe, trying to memorize a whole room and then explore it in darkness, and another when you have a sabercat gnawing at your ass.

 

Between you and me (and everyone else reading this thread): I am not terribly fond of hoods in terms of aesthetics, personally. But the item soooo fits the theme of "Someone really, -really- wanted to tie her up using every single restraint they could find in their stock" - and it's completely believable that a blindfold and gags could be worn underneath it. So...that's why I added it.

 

The hood is actually one of the first items you can unlock in this quest. I thought you can get it off comparatively fast, no? And it terms of functionality, it's just a blindfold plus gag, so if I removed it and just put a regular blindfold on you to start with, you'd face the exact same issues in hardcore mode.

I see that DCL 4.4 now includes NPCs making comments (and act upon it too), so would this be affected by having More Devious Quest in the load order? It also includes NPC comments, along with other stuffs to go with it.

 

My system doesn't use idle comments. The comments are triggered within the regular dialogue when chatting to an NPC. For that reason, it should be perfectly compatible with MDQ. You actually might find that the two systems complement each other nicely, for my writing uses a fairly different tone.

[joemonco]

Changed: You can no longer attempt to solicit followers.

 

 

So followers just get it for free?  Damned hippies and their free love...

[afa]

 

I see that DCL 4.4 now includes NPCs making comments (and act upon it too), so would this be affected by having More Devious Quest in the load order? It also includes NPC comments, along with other stuffs to go with it.

 

My system doesn't use idle comments. The comments are triggered within the regular dialogue when chatting to an NPC. For that reason, it should be perfectly compatible with MDQ. You actually might find that the two systems complement each other nicely, for my writing uses a fairly different tone.

 

In similar line of thoughts having Devious Enslaved is ok too?

[Kimy]

 

 

I see that DCL 4.4 now includes NPCs making comments (and act upon it too), so would this be affected by having More Devious Quest in the load order? It also includes NPC comments, along with other stuffs to go with it.

 

My system doesn't use idle comments. The comments are triggered within the regular dialogue when chatting to an NPC. For that reason, it should be perfectly compatible with MDQ. You actually might find that the two systems complement each other nicely, for my writing uses a fairly different tone.

 

In similar line of thoughts having Devious Enslaved is ok too?

 

 

I am not aware of any reason why it shouldn't.

 

[Nalessa]

 

 

 

Kinda like that I guess (without the hood that is and the nipples also covered), but then not all shiny and everything, but with the same greyish leather look like the current restrictive stuff, and some more visual detail like some added cuffs/locks and such, does that explain it better?

[afa]

Devious Enslaved also features NPCs triggering sex if PC is deviced, which is sort of similar to what Deviously Cursed Loot has now.

Both of the mods mention each other, so I am guessing they should play nice with each other?...well as nice as they can with all the evil devices around!

[Inte]

My problem is that the dark screen effect, that the blindfolds and hoods rightfully and realistically add, makes the game unplayable for me.
 

...[snip]
The hood is actually one of the first items you can unlock in this quest. I thought you can get it off comparatively fast, no? ... [snip]

How?

What I mean is, it takes 5 keys to remove the hood/blindfold right? (Sory I had to removed it through console so I am not sure, ... and yes that did break a very good quest). How am I supposed to get these keys in the middle of nowhere absent of devious loot. I need to get to a city in complete darkness so I can loot and loot .... until I find enough keys to remove the hood and blindfold. All of it staring at a blank screen. (and no I will not fast travel to a city, I’m too hardcore for that)

Or am I missing something?

[Koffii]

 

 

 

Kinda like that I guess (without the hood that is and the nipples also covered), but then not all shiny and everything, but with the same greyish leather look like the current restrictive stuff, and some more visual detail like some added cuffs/locks and such, does that explain it better?

What you're showing me is a plain latex catsuit with a harness, mittens and boots worn on top of it.

 

I'm asking what that added visual detail might look like. Where do I place the locks and what would they lock? How do you imagine I can add cuffs without them clipping with the boots/gloves/collars/the cuffs DDa already has. That's what I'm interested in.