MegaVillain Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I've heard/seen that exchange in a few other places, so it might be vanilla or part of some other common mod. That's one of Fox's brilliances, picking some of the built in lines and using most or all of them, but in new and extremely fitting ways. I forget the name of the dungeon Salma is in, but its near Nightgate Inn. There are some stone pillars along a short path from the east-west road that lead north onto the mountain ridge, and the path goes through a taller stone wall. Salma and her Argonian friend are talking outside but quiet when you approach. You can accompany them into the ruins in search of the treasure they've heard is there, and there's a nice surprise at the end of the search. She is a great candidate for any kind of harem or slave house, both story wise and the fact that she is completely and totally ignored by the entirety of the game. Until Fox got Anska, she was another one. And the one for the tower outside Riften. And Angi in her little hidden shack. We'll see when Fox responds. I have no idea where the conversation with Lydia or Nirya came from but I surely am running into a lot of unexpected surprises lately. I mean, if you look at the bigger picture, you'll realize that it just can't be vanilla. It just can't. Because in the first scenario, Nirya reacted to our compromising position, which is definitely not in vanilla game. And Fox clearly didn't add it in so thats that. In the second scenario, Lydia was bantering with a custom made follower I just added, as if they were old friends. And I doubt Fox would bother adding some random lines to Celann's character, with him being not a part of any of AA's quests. Come to think of it, its more complicated than just putting together a line. It was a full-fledged conversation between the three of them so I don't think Fox would add an ambient scenario like that, because it just goes beyond the purpose of Amorous Adventures. Thanks for the heads up on Salma. Nighgate Inn, huh? Isn't that inn located where it snows heavily 365 days a year, and if memory serves, this is the place where "the Gourmet" is found? Wow. Anska is covered? I haven't bumped into her yet, but I remember having a mod in my load order that overhauls her character completely. Its called 'Anska Enhanced'. Hope it won't cause problems with the AA quest.
MoonSpot Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I've heard/seen that exchange in a few other places, so it might be vanilla or part of some other common mod. That's one of Fox's brilliances, picking some of the built in lines and using most or all of them, but in new and extremely fitting ways. I forget the name of the dungeon Salma is in, but its near Nightgate Inn. There are some stone pillars along a short path from the east-west road that lead north onto the mountain ridge, and the path goes through a taller stone wall. Salma and her Argonian friend are talking outside but quiet when you approach. You can accompany them into the ruins in search of the treasure they've heard is there, and there's a nice surprise at the end of the search. She is a great candidate for any kind of harem or slave house, both story wise and the fact that she is completely and totally ignored by the entirety of the game. Until Fox got Anska, she was another one. And the one for the tower outside Riften. And Angi in her little hidden shack. We'll see when Fox responds. I have no idea where the conversation with Lydia or Nirya came from but I surely am running into a lot of unexpected surprises lately. I mean, if you look at the bigger picture, you'll realize that it just can't be vanilla. It just can't. Because in the first scenario, Nirya reacted to our compromising position, which is definitely not in vanilla game. And Fox clearly didn't add it in so thats that. In the second scenario, Lydia was bantering with a custom made follower I just added, as if they were old friends. And I doubt Fox would bother adding some random lines to Celann's character, with him being not a part of any of AA's quests. Come to think of it, its more complicated than just putting together a line. It was a full-fledged conversation between the three of them so I don't think Fox would add an ambient scenario like that, because it just goes beyond the purpose of Amorous Adventures. Thanks for the heads up on Salma. Nighgate Inn, huh? Isn't that inn located where it snows heavily 365 days a year, and if memory serves, this is the place where "the Gourmet" is found? Wow. Anska is covered? I haven't bumped into her yet, but I remember having a mod in my load order that overhauls her character completely. Its called 'Anska Enhanced'. Hope it won't cause problems with the AA quest. I use Anska enhanced with personal edits on top of it. It works fine with AA. I was worried to for a bit, but Fox pulled through yet again (I should stop being soo pleasantly surprised by FF in that, but can't help it) Pretty sure the extra dialogue your getting is from FCO or dynamic follower dialogue. I get it all the time, a lot of times there isn't even a nord male around to say "Hello ladies! Is there anything a big strong man can do for you this fine day?" I think it was originally a vanilla event in the bannered mare between Saadia, Hulda(or Olfina) and Jon Battle-Born, but a couple other female voice types also contain the reply lines to the sultry opening. I hear it a bit too often to be honest. Anyways, its a voice type dependent thing and not npc dependent. Get a sultry voice type npc around another female and a nord male and you get that line to happen again fairly easily.
swords and sandals Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I've heard/seen that exchange in a few other places, so it might be vanilla or part of some other common mod. That's one of Fox's brilliances, picking some of the built in lines and using most or all of them, but in new and extremely fitting ways. ~snip~ We'll see when Fox responds. I have no idea where the conversation with Lydia or Nirya came from but I surely am running into a lot of unexpected surprises lately. I mean, if you look at the bigger picture, you'll realize that it just can't be vanilla. It just can't. Because in the first scenario, Nirya reacted to our compromising position, which is definitely not in vanilla game. And Fox clearly didn't add it in so thats that. In the second scenario, Lydia was bantering with a custom made follower I just added, as if they were old friends. And I doubt Fox would bother adding some random lines to Celann's character, with him being not a part of any of AA's quests. Come to think of it, its more complicated than just putting together a line. It was a full-fledged conversation between the three of them so I don't think Fox would add an ambient scenario like that, because it just goes beyond the purpose of Amorous Adventures. ~snip~ The conversation is vanilla (or at least from a very, very early mod) and it can happen in any place with NPCs with the three voice types. I've heard it a lot, both with Amorous and without, because I usually travel around with both Lydia and a "sultry" voice custom follower. Check out this video from three months after the game was released:
karlpaws Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I've heard/seen that exchange in a few other places, so it might be vanilla or part of some other common mod. That's one of Fox's brilliances, picking some of the built in lines and using most or all of them, but in new and extremely fitting ways. I forget the name of the dungeon Salma is in, but its near Nightgate Inn. There are some stone pillars along a short path from the east-west road that lead north onto the mountain ridge, and the path goes through a taller stone wall. Salma and her Argonian friend are talking outside but quiet when you approach. You can accompany them into the ruins in search of the treasure they've heard is there, and there's a nice surprise at the end of the search. She is a great candidate for any kind of harem or slave house, both story wise and the fact that she is completely and totally ignored by the entirety of the game. Until Fox got Anska, she was another one. And the one for the tower outside Riften. And Angi in her little hidden shack. We'll see when Fox responds. I have no idea where the conversation with Lydia or Nirya came from but I surely am running into a lot of unexpected surprises lately. I mean, if you look at the bigger picture, you'll realize that it just can't be vanilla. It just can't. Because in the first scenario, Nirya reacted to our compromising position, which is definitely not in vanilla game. And Fox clearly didn't add it in so thats that. In the second scenario, Lydia was bantering with a custom made follower I just added, as if they were old friends. And I doubt Fox would bother adding some random lines to Celann's character, with him being not a part of any of AA's quests. Come to think of it, its more complicated than just putting together a line. It was a full-fledged conversation between the three of them so I don't think Fox would add an ambient scenario like that, because it just goes beyond the purpose of Amorous Adventures. Thanks for the heads up on Salma. Nighgate Inn, huh? Isn't that inn located where it snows heavily 365 days a year, and if memory serves, this is the place where "the Gourmet" is found? Wow. Anska is covered? I haven't bumped into her yet, but I remember having a mod in my load order that overhauls her character completely. Its called 'Anska Enhanced'. Hope it won't cause problems with the AA quest. Anska is part of the mage college line with Brelyna, not Mirabelle. While I don't understand it completely, I think that setting your custom follower to a standard voice set lets it use any of the voice options that set has. Some conversations have other conditions, like the speaker must be Carlotta and must be in Whiterun, or must be a housecarl, etc. I cannot remember any other generic enough exchanges between NPCs, but that exact converstation I heard between one of the Red Wave sailors and a guard while playing with a new start by Content Consumer for the Sexlab Stories mod. While I did have AA installed I have no reason to think Fox touched any of those NPCs, though the voice types might allow for a voice bleed over... not sure. And yes you're correct on the location and quest use of Nightgate. Edit : type faster, get distracted less.
MegaVillain Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I use Anska enhanced with personal edits on top of it. It works fine with AA. I was worried to for a bit, but Fox pulled through yet again (I should stop being soo pleasantly surprised by FF in that, but can't help it) Pretty sure the extra dialogue your getting is from FCO or dynamic follower dialogue. I get it all the time, a lot of times there isn't even a nord male around to say "Hello ladies! Is there anything a big strong man can do for you this fine day?" I think it was originally a vanilla event in the bannered mare between Saadia, Hulda(or Olfina) and Jon Battle-Born, but a couple other female voice types also contain the reply lines to the sultry opening. I hear it a bit too often to be honest. Anyways, its a voice type dependent thing and not npc dependent. Get a sultry voice type npc around another female and a nord male and you get that line to happen again fairly easily. Got it. The conversation is vanilla (or at least from a very, very early mod) and it can happen in any place with NPCs with the three voice types. I've heard it a lot, both with Amorous and without, because I usually travel around with both Lydia and a "sultry" voice custom follower. Check out this video from three months after the game was released: HAHAHA LOL! Glad someone got it on recording. It was a good one they added IMHO. Cracked me up even second time. Strange thing though, I couldn't reproduce it in my game despite trying hard. Felt like 1 in a 1000 chances it occurs. Anska is part of the mage college line with Brelyna, not Mirabelle. While I don't understand it completely, I think that setting your custom follower to a standard voice set lets it use any of the voice options that set has. Some conversations have other conditions, like the speaker must be Carlotta and must be in Whiterun, or must be a housecarl, etc. I cannot remember any other generic enough exchanges between NPCs, but that exact converstation I heard between one of the Red Wave sailors and a guard while playing with a new start by Content Consumer for the Sexlab Stories mod. While I did have AA installed I have no reason to think Fox touched any of those NPCs, though the voice types might allow for a voice bleed over... not sure. And yes you're correct on the location and quest use of Nightgate. Edit : type faster, get distracted less. Anska is, I believe, encountered at some far away cave in Skyrim winderness. Unless Fox has somehow connected them. I think so too. After hearing so many people who've encountered it, no doubt its coded in with vanilla femalesultry voicetype. I'm still looking for any leads on Nirya's dialogue, guys...
Guest Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 the dialog you mentiont happens quit frequently at the bannered mare. if i remember correct there has to be a special marker to get these interaction. but its defenedly vanillia. your loadorder would be a good point to start narrowing down your crime problem, are you shure she mentiont it was becouse of you being naked not becouse you stolen/murdert something?
MegaVillain Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 the dialog you mentiont happens quit frequently at the bannered mare. if i remember correct there has to be a special marker to get these interaction. but its defenedly vanillia. your loadorder would be a good point to start narrowing down your crime problem, are you shure she mentiont it was becouse of you being naked not becouse you stolen/murdert something? I never stole or murdered while in the college. Except slaying a dragon and that was ages ago. Plus, I can't seem to reproduce the scenario. Nirya acts normal when I'm around. She only did that when me and Mirabelle were... well, you know.
kujoe Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Well, I second the notion with regard to a possible expanded Aela AA scenario. She always seems to be one of the old favourites among fans. Not to mention, I think her werewolf angle might be something to write a story about (kind of like how Serana has her vampire backstory going for her), though with the limited voiced lines available, I'm pretty sure this would be difficult.
FoxFingers Posted April 26, 2016 Author Posted April 26, 2016 I'm still looking for any leads on Nirya's dialogue, guys... A quick Google search suggests the Player can get the blame for a College NPC dying in the vanilla game even if the player is not the cause. One possible theory: An NPC died somehow (vampire attack, fell off a cliff, whatever) the Player got the blame and Nirya simply opened with the standard "Naked" comment any NPC will make when they observe the player naked. In any case, it's not this Mod that suspends players. Thanks! heya umm there is slight dilemma and i am thinkin if someone know what i should do ? there is quite often cisual c++ runtime error in art of dibella quest when my pc makes love with annekke or senna or just black screen. i have tried use save game cleaner and running fnis but problem persist. it has happened me often with lucan sister camilla too in suitpr of camilla valerius quest. this probably is some common issue but i tought to ask just in case other than this slightly annoyin issue i have blast with mod thanks for good work fox cant wait what else you have planned for mod . Please see the front page of the Mod for notes about the visual C++ error. That can happen anywhere - even in the vanilla game - and is not specific to this Mod. Besides what I wrote about it on the main page, I don't have any advise to give. Thanks! Well, I second the notion with regard to a possible expanded Aela AA scenario. She always seems to be one of the old favourites among fans. Not to mention, I think her werewolf angle might be something to write a story about (kind of like how Serana has her vampire backstory going for her), though with the limited voiced lines available, I'm pretty sure this would be difficult. Thanks! I'm glad someone out there will be looking forward to it. It will be quite a while before a new quest comes out, however. Right now my goal is going to be to make the lovers options a bit more immersive and satisfying. Just for my own play through experience if nothing else. I'd like my lover traveling with me to feel a bit more... well... like my lover I guess. That will take a while to make it unique to several different NPCs. Thanks!
Gulfwulf Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Thanks! I'm glad someone out there will be looking forward to it. It will be quite a while before a new quest comes out, however. Right now my goal is going to be to make the lovers options a bit more immersive and satisfying. Just for my own play through experience if nothing else. I'd like my lover traveling with me to feel a bit more... well... like my lover I guess. That will take a while to make it unique to several different NPCs. Thanks! I'm looking forward to it as well because Aela is one of my favorite NPCs and Bijiin's makeover...woof! I just started a new game so I'll have something to look forward to as well as Serana's new questline.
pinky6225 Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 I'm still looking for any leads on Nirya's dialogue, guys... A quick Google search suggests the Player can get the blame for a College NPC dying in the vanilla game even if the player is not the cause. One possible theory: An NPC died somehow (vampire attack, fell off a cliff, whatever) the Player got the blame and Nirya simply opened with the standard "Naked" comment any NPC will make when they observe the player naked. In any case, it's not this Mod that suspends players. Thanks! I got the killed a college member dialogue when i killed a khajit in Alftand, if you have accidentally tripped that quest line going to tolfdir and paying some gold should allow you to get rid of it, i believe it was becuz the dead brother J'zhar got summoned by my companion and as i didnt want him following me i killed him which then tripped the quest for me
FoxFingers Posted April 26, 2016 Author Posted April 26, 2016 Here's a fellow playing through Dawnguard and he dives into Serana's Amorous lines at the start of the video. I'm always interested to see how people are going to read these out loud when they hit them. http://youtu.be/ShQs3shJQ3U In other video news, rxkx22 (creator of the Bijin NPC beautifiers) posted some comments in Shinji's latest Amorous Solitude video, which I thought was pretty cool since I'm a fan of his work and all. Would love to see a Bjin version of Nirya, Faralda and Mirabelle some day.
MoonSpot Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Okay, so ran into a problem that I would imagine would be rather likely to affect other folks here as well. Can't dismiss Brelyna, not the worst person to be stuck with for the rest of the game, but not the ideal situation to be forced into. I believe that my DFD is broken cause I'm certain she has the correct diag lines in her repertoire, and partly relationshiprank increases from other mods that raise her lover status (and mostly b/c the dragonborns sex addiction and frequent visits to their college roommates quarters) are the cause. Dismissal Dialogue Fix for Brelyna Maryon by redrew89 This is a simple modification to Brelyna Maryon's dialogue response when dismissed as a follower. Primarily aimed at players who pick Brelyna as the spouse for their character, it aims to correct the often-erroneous statement that she will "see you back at the College."As of v0.2, this plugin over-rides her default dismissal response, with a custom, more generic response. Prior to 0.2, it was conditional, based on her relationship with the player, but that resulted a monster of a bug, where Brelyna couldn't be dismissed at all if she's the player's spouse. Perhaps when I have time and patience to track down the issue, I'll make it a conditional response, again. I've tried a few things, not much, in order to "fix" it. Next time in game I'll try set relationshiprank <brelyna> 3 , but am a bit skeptical that it'll work since I tried to forceably set follower count to 0 in consiole to no avail in my last session. Will also be trying the dismissal diag fix mod. But anyone hit this before?
Guest Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Okay, so ran into a problem that I would imagine would be rather likely to affect other folks here as well. Can't dismiss Brelyna, not the worst person to be stuck with for the rest of the game, but not the ideal situation to be forced into. I believe that my DFD is broken cause I'm certain she has the correct diag lines in her repertoire, and partly relationshiprank increases from other mods that raise her lover status (and mostly b/c the dragonborns sex addiction and frequent visits to their college roommates quarters) are the cause. Dismissal Dialogue Fix for Brelyna Maryon by redrew89 This is a simple modification to Brelyna Maryon's dialogue response when dismissed as a follower. Primarily aimed at players who pick Brelyna as the spouse for their character, it aims to correct the often-erroneous statement that she will "see you back at the College." As of v0.2, this plugin over-rides her default dismissal response, with a custom, more generic response. Prior to 0.2, it was conditional, based on her relationship with the player, but that resulted a monster of a bug, where Brelyna couldn't be dismissed at all if she's the player's spouse. Perhaps when I have time and patience to track down the issue, I'll make it a conditional response, again. I've tried a few things, not much, in order to "fix" it. Next time in game I'll try set relationshiprank <brelyna> 3 , but am a bit skeptical that it'll work since I tried to forceably set follower count to 0 in consiole to no avail in my last session. Will also be trying the dismissal diag fix mod. But anyone hit this before? load order... we dont have crystal balls and olavas token will be used for something else. if the follower system works like fo3 and new vegas you will have to remove her from playerteammate or current follower faction. reset YOUR follower count only effects you, as far as i understand it.
MoonSpot Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 load order... 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That said, I haven't played with npc voice stuff outside of jumping into CK to enable default dialogue options and try my hat at messing around with stuff.
Gulfwulf Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I've tried a few things, not much, in order to "fix" it. Next time in game I'll try set relationshiprank <brelyna> 3 , but am a bit skeptical that it'll work since I tried to forceably set follower count to 0 in consiole to no avail in my last session. Will also be trying the dismissal diag fix mod. But anyone hit this before? I looked at that dialog dismissal mod and it looks like it should work. It's setup for the player being married to her because she mentions going home. It wouldn't be hard for me to make a new one where she goes home if married or back to the college if not.
MoonSpot Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 I've tried a few things, not much, in order to "fix" it. Next time in game I'll try set relationshiprank <brelyna> 3 , but am a bit skeptical that it'll work since I tried to forceably set follower count to 0 in consiole to no avail in my last session. Will also be trying the dismissal diag fix mod. But anyone hit this before? I looked at that dialog dismissal mod and it looks like it should work. It's setup for the player being married to her because she mentions going home. It wouldn't be hard for me to make a new one where she goes home if married or back to the college if not. That would be very cool, but I wonder if there isn't a larger root problem here. The dismissal issue appears to be a fairly long standing quark with Bre, the fix mod was released some time ago and was originally just to get her to say the right thing. Not originally about merely having the ability to dismiss her when she is a lover. I think its a bit weird in and of itself to be honest. Surely there are others that have gotten Bre to relationshiprank 4 without actually marrying her, if not dozens in this thread alone in which case I would have expected to see more about it. The biggest reason for me mentioning it here is to make aware of a potential problem that could manifest for others as a result of lovers diag/relationshiprank 4 for her. Now, for my game an odd thing is she was PCs lover for a long time before this happened, and has been used as a follower intermittently since without issue until I was in the throws of 3DNPC "sleeping giant" quest when I started AA's spellbound. So I picked picked up Bre as a follower on top of 2 of the 3 required 3DNPCs for the sleeping giant quest. I can't help but "feel" that something happened there to break the follower system for bre there when adding another 3dnpc follower on top of brelyna. But 1 instance is not proof, and feelings are not facts. Anyways, thank you very much for looking at the dialogue as I'm certainly not familiar with dialogue and voice files in CK beyond an awareness of their existence. I will be giving the esp a shot to test it out, but am gonna try other things too. Would ultimately prefer to not have to use an esp, or have its foot print in a save or have to clean it afterward if easily avoided. No point painting over mold on the drywall, right?
Guest Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 load order... Load Order # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm Falskaar.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm ApachiiHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Obl-VB hair.esm OblivionHairPackAIO.esm UnlimitedBookshelves.esp AP Skyrim.esm<----ap like animated prostetution? if yes, remove it sexlab has everything and more build in. hdtHighHeel.esm AOM.esm daymoyl.esm phiNoFF.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp AOS.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 3DNPC.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ANSKA ENHANCED.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Elisif Makeover.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp TMWaifus.esp Serana.esp InstantMining.esp UIExtensions.esp Cynder Arrows - VANILLA.esp Babette.esp AMatterOfTime.esp NeutralHjerim.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Extended UI.esp InigoPerkPointGiver.esp Elemental_Dragons.esp RaceMenu.esp No Acoustics Skyrim Only.esp Lightweight Potions and Poisons.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp<----has a dialog frequency in mcm hjerimtnf.esp Purity.esp Honeyside_4Beds.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Fort Dawnguard Overhaul.esp Vlindrel Hall Reborn Porch Edition.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp TMDawnguard.esp BTRH_Sorine.esp Weapon & Armour Merge.esp Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp Run For Your Lives.esp ADEC_DragonbornArmors.esp 3DNPC_ShezriesOldHroldan Patch.esp RiversideLodge.esp Dialogue Frequency Edits.esp<---is it still needet with fco? UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp<-----not shure about that one but i think it should be much lower in the load order. consider getting rid of it and use aft or eff or flp or any other newer follower manager. SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp Blaze Of Eventide.esp AOS2_Purity Patch.esp AOS2_Purity-patch.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SkyUI.esp AchieveThat.esp NightingaleHallSepulcherImproved.esp HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp When Vampires Attack.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp K2 Jiggle Draugr.esp Vampire Lords.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp buildablehouse.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp AOM.esp Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp NPC Merge.esp JK's Ivarstead.esp ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp Shor's Stone.esp Hearthfire Cheat Chests.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Mannequin.esp Wynter.esp SofiaFollower.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp<------much lower in load order, if you ask me. basicly you want that one to overwrite every edit that is made to npc dialog, you could check in tesedit if and what mods overwriting the dialogs made by that one. for exemple by npc replacers, or sometimes custom npcs edit the dialog to and can mess up things like dissmissing followers. Khaliza of Gilane.esp HousecarlWindhelm Calder_Girl.esp TCoW Improvement.esp MatureSkinComplexions.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp LoversComfort.esp FNISspells.esp Immersive Music Temples.esp Seductress Elizabeth.esp Immersive Music.esp ColdharbourDaedra.esp SuccubusRaceLite.esp Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp summersetisles.esp Recorder Follower Base.esp Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp FNIS_Zoo.esp Devious Deviants.esp FCKagrenacsInstantFortress.esp MHIYH.esp<---there is a new one out. sandboxcylinderheight.esp Purity_CourierService_patch.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp SexLabDangerousNights.esp Lords of Skyrim.esp Potions.esp Victoria Velina Revamped.esp SBF DB-Inisiate.esp Astrid.esp Veronica.esp SigmondsGregorReplacer_no_apachii.esp Thanatos Dragonx.esp The Ordinary Women.esp UNPNaughtyRemodel.esp Improved Bards - All-in-One.esp dc-untamed-000.esp BDO_Kibelius.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Brows.esp TrueEyes.esp Duster.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Nicky.esp PurityBN100.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Fjotra Follower.esp Bijin Wives.esp SGEyebrows.esp Aeri.esp IridumEyes2.0.esp PetCollar.esp Osare Culort Outfit.esp Neithteam Warpaint.esp iLuvLoading.esp OniFollowers.esp LindsVaerminaHood.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Valerica.esp Bijin NPCs.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp Witch Of The Wild.esp MashupUNP.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Forsworn-MTM.esp Destruction Damage Mod.esp msAMV - VampireRogueArmor.esp rtZuleikaFollower.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp MyWarmaidens.esp Sybille Replacer.esp Tonilia.esp KS Jewelry.esp HDTTESTEarring.esp HDT Necklace.esp Silverlight Armor.esp ColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp Insignificant Object Remover.esp<---get rid of all the mods that you dont use and i bet you can get rid of that one to.^^ Guard Torch Remover.esp Gatti12Jewelry.esp R18pn - lingerie Set.esp Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp BladesBikini.esp SteelPlateBikini.esp SteelBikini.esp BandedIronBikini.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp ElisyumClothes.esp Misha Replacer Test.esp Violent_Alduin_Hard.esp JKs Dragon Bridge.esp Minerva.esp Vampiric Knight.esp DragonBoneBikini.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp SkyHavenTemple'sGlory1.3.esp Unique Zephyr.esp AdalMatar.esp AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp AncientTonguesSword.esp Elianora Merge.esp Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp FionaOutfit.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp DragonBornCircletsComplete.esp SunRune.esp FNIS.esp DynDOLOD.esp XPMSE.esp A lot of mods have been merged, and I also got some edits changing masters for several mods mostly to carry changes through in tesEdit as well as plenty of edits to records all over the place. That said, I haven't played with npc voice stuff outside of jumping into CK to enable default dialogue options and try my hat at messing around with stuff. pls open the spoiler. mine and yours. thats mine for example, follower manager at the bottem to take over all dialog regarding recrutment and dissmisal of followers. might be diffrent with ufo thought have not played with it since ages. 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MegaVillain Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 A quick Google search suggests the Player can get the blame for a College NPC dying in the vanilla game even if the player is not the cause. One possible theory: An NPC died somehow (vampire attack, fell off a cliff, whatever) the Player got the blame and Nirya simply opened with the standard "Naked" comment any NPC will make when they observe the player naked. In any case, it's not this Mod that suspends players. Thanks! Well, I just checked and everyone in the college who's supposed to be alive, is alive. Whatever. I'll just let it go. Anyways, Fox, recently, I've been having a bit of problem with my marriage options. I checked with FCO mod, and I wanted to make sure here as well since this is the only mod besides that which alters/modifies NPC dialogues. The thing is, I can wear my Amulet of Mara and not get an interested dialogue from any NPC. Yes, I'm doing it around valid for marriage NPCs, but they just don't seem to notice that I'm available. However, when I press E, I get the "Interested in me, are you?" option. But I really want them to notice the amulet and say the related dialogue. So, does AA interfere with that? I can't quite make it out.
MoonSpot Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Moons Load Order # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm Falskaar.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm ApachiiHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Obl-VB hair.esm OblivionHairPackAIO.esm UnlimitedBookshelves.esp AP Skyrim.esm<----ap like animated prostetution? if yes, remove it sexlab has everything and more build in. True, never use it, don't remember why I still have it. hdtHighHeel.esm AOM.esm daymoyl.esm phiNoFF.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp AOS.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 3DNPC.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ANSKA ENHANCED.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Elisif Makeover.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp TMWaifus.esp Serana.esp InstantMining.esp UIExtensions.esp Cynder Arrows - VANILLA.esp Babette.esp AMatterOfTime.esp NeutralHjerim.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Extended UI.esp InigoPerkPointGiver.esp Elemental_Dragons.esp RaceMenu.esp No Acoustics Skyrim Only.esp Lightweight Potions and Poisons.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp<----has a dialog frequency in mcm Broken especially with Mijol when also using DFD hjerimtnf.esp Purity.esp Honeyside_4Beds.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Fort Dawnguard Overhaul.esp Vlindrel Hall Reborn Porch Edition.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp TMDawnguard.esp BTRH_Sorine.esp Weapon & Armour Merge.esp Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp Run For Your Lives.esp ADEC_DragonbornArmors.esp 3DNPC_ShezriesOldHroldan Patch.esp RiversideLodge.esp Dialogue Frequency Edits.esp<---is it still needet with fco? mijol won't shut up. Nor does she have a great deal thats new to say. I have a problem with her, hoping an update to DFD will fix in the future. UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp<-----not shure about that one but i think it should be much lower in the load order. consider getting rid of it and use aft or eff or flp or any other newer follower manager. I did use AFT and EFF and am now back to UFO. It has its problems to be sure, but man is it ever soo much better in a lot of ways. I have a lot of followers that all have custom armour. AFT can't do that. And I do not like long it takes to do things through the dialogue menu. May give EFF another shot, but I doubt it. UFO is much more performance friendly than either EFF and AFT, that much is for sure. UFO, for me, is not nearly as broken as people seem to claim. As for it's placement, I can certainly give it a shot but never seemed to be an issue before. Plus LOOT was run of course (albeit a while ago now..). Anyways switching out follower overhauls mods is not a push button thing, and probably won't do so until either forced to, or a new game. SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp Blaze Of Eventide.esp AOS2_Purity Patch.esp AOS2_Purity-patch.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SkyUI.esp AchieveThat.esp NightingaleHallSepulcherImproved.esp HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp When Vampires Attack.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp K2 Jiggle Draugr.esp Vampire Lords.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp buildablehouse.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp AOM.esp Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp NPC Merge.esp JK's Ivarstead.esp ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp Shor's Stone.esp Hearthfire Cheat Chests.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp Mannequin.esp Wynter.esp SofiaFollower.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp<------much lower in load order, if you ask me. basicly you want that one to overwrite every edit that is made to npc dialog, you could check in tesedit if and what mods overwriting the dialogs made by that one. for exemple by npc replacers, or sometimes custom npcs edit the dialog to and can mess up things like dissmissing followers. I'll look at it. Can't say I've ever looked at dialogue in tesEdit tbh, generally fire up CK to poke at that. Half the time enabling "default dialogue option" on the VoiceType in CK sorts out custom followers so they'll work with UFO if they don't out of the box for whatever reason. Mostly I just see more dialogue options added rather than modders trying to supplant vanilla dialogue paths with their own for some obscure reason (They're just doing it wrong and we know it) Khaliza of Gilane.esp HousecarlWindhelm Calder_Girl.esp TCoW Improvement.esp MatureSkinComplexions.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp LoversComfort.esp FNISspells.esp Immersive Music Temples.esp Seductress Elizabeth.esp Immersive Music.esp ColdharbourDaedra.esp SuccubusRaceLite.esp Compatibility_ICoW_CoWNPCImprov.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp summersetisles.esp Recorder Follower Base.esp Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp FNIS_Zoo.esp Devious Deviants.esp FCKagrenacsInstantFortress.esp MHIYH.esp<---there is a new one out. Yup! Next game. This save is a bit long in the tooth (lvl 139 gods knows how many hours) sandboxcylinderheight.esp Purity_CourierService_patch.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp SexLabDangerousNights.esp Lords of Skyrim.esp Potions.esp Victoria Velina Revamped.esp SBF DB-Inisiate.esp Astrid.esp Veronica.esp SigmondsGregorReplacer_no_apachii.esp Thanatos Dragonx.esp The Ordinary Women.esp UNPNaughtyRemodel.esp Improved Bards - All-in-One.esp dc-untamed-000.esp BDO_Kibelius.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Brows.esp TrueEyes.esp Duster.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Nicky.esp PurityBN100.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Fjotra Follower.esp Bijin Wives.esp SGEyebrows.esp Aeri.esp IridumEyes2.0.esp PetCollar.esp Osare Culort Outfit.esp Neithteam Warpaint.esp iLuvLoading.esp OniFollowers.esp LindsVaerminaHood.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Valerica.esp Bijin NPCs.esp NewmillerPiercings2.esp NewmillerPiercings3.esp Witch Of The Wild.esp MashupUNP.esp TavernClothes-MTM.esp Forsworn-MTM.esp Destruction Damage Mod.esp msAMV - VampireRogueArmor.esp rtZuleikaFollower.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp MyWarmaidens.esp Sybille Replacer.esp Tonilia.esp KS Jewelry.esp HDTTESTEarring.esp HDT Necklace.esp Silverlight Armor.esp ColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp Insignificant Object Remover.esp<---get rid of all the mods that you dont use and i bet you can get rid of that one to.^^ LOL. No, unfortunately. That one gets rid of some shrubs, odd rocks and most underwater plant life. Basically make it so your not rendering things your not going to see or notice. Actually does help my perf more than I though I was going to(craptop), but some times I think they got rid of too much in some places. Def net positive though. Guard Torch Remover.esp Gatti12Jewelry.esp R18pn - lingerie Set.esp Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp BladesBikini.esp SteelPlateBikini.esp SteelBikini.esp BandedIronBikini.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp ElisyumClothes.esp Misha Replacer Test.esp Violent_Alduin_Hard.esp JKs Dragon Bridge.esp Minerva.esp Vampiric Knight.esp DragonBoneBikini.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp SkyHavenTemple'sGlory1.3.esp Unique Zephyr.esp AdalMatar.esp AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp AncientTonguesSword.esp Elianora Merge.esp Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp FionaOutfit.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp DragonBornCircletsComplete.esp SunRune.esp FNIS.esp DynDOLOD.esp XPMSE.esp pls open the spoiler. mine and yours. thats mine for example, follower manager at the bottem to take over all dialog regarding recrutment and dissmisal of followers. might be diffrent with ufo thought have not played with it since ages. *Commented in quoted spoiler. Thanks! Nice food for thought, certainly worth trying. YAY more config, load, test and reload! May favorite part of skyrim! T_T
MoonSpot Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 A quick Google search suggests the Player can get the blame for a College NPC dying in the vanilla game even if the player is not the cause. One possible theory: An NPC died somehow (vampire attack, fell off a cliff, whatever) the Player got the blame and Nirya simply opened with the standard "Naked" comment any NPC will make when they observe the player naked. In any case, it's not this Mod that suspends players. Thanks! Well, I just checked and everyone in the college who's supposed to be alive, is alive. Whatever. I'll just let it go. Anyways, Fox, recently, I've been having a bit of problem with my marriage options. I checked with FCO mod, and I wanted to make sure here as well since this is the only mod besides that which alters/modifies NPC dialogues. The thing is, I can wear my Amulet of Mara and not get an interested dialogue from any NPC. Yes, I'm doing it around valid for marriage NPCs, but they just don't seem to notice that I'm available. However, when I press E, I get the "Interested in me, are you?" option. But I really want them to notice the amulet and say the related dialogue. So, does AA interfere with that? I can't quite make it out. Save. Give a follower all stolen goods. Get rid of followers or have them wait fairly far away (or far away and TAI on them). Punch a guard once. lower your fists O'furry. Pay the man for your crime. Clean slate in the hold. See if all is well at school. Worked for me a few times. Seems some NPCs are more sensitive to minor infractions than the guards can be at times. Especially since citizens don't always seem to always share the same faction alliances as their local guards . Mage followers particularly seem to get a kick out of getting the DB in trouble with their poor AI and AOE spells killing goats and chickens left right and center.
MoonSpot Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 @Moonspot: what is 3DNPC? Interesting NPCs = 3DNPC
Gulfwulf Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Ah, okay. I asked because I wasn't sure if it changed the follower system. Anyway, that Bre mod just changes her response if she's married to you; the default vanilla one is the one that's always picked no matter her relationship to you. Looking at your list, I see you have My Home is Your Home. Have you set up a new home for her or married her? I also see that you have UFO. From what I've read, either AFT or EFF are recommended over it. Your issue may stem from it. It could also be Immersive College of Winterhold because that mod gives all of the guild members new packages. Her vanilla package (what she does) is to hang around in a 512 unit (feet? not sure) radius around her bed when she's not sleeping or following you. I don't think that mod would affect her leaving though, so I'm still thinking UFO and/or MHiYH. I'd say send me a save, but with how finicky Skyrim can be, I'd be better off just testing it myself unless you have a vanilla save where you're the archmage and haven't started her quest yet.
MoonSpot Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Ah, okay. I asked because I wasn't sure if it changed the follower system. It does do something super annoying with their forced followers, though I think its a vanilla mechanic. In this instance they're not controlled followers under UFO or counted as followers if it where under vanilla, it's...something else. Acts more like animal followers by getting much closer to PC and they noticeably teleport around minor obstructions much more often than normal followers since they're compelled to get way too close the PC. Pretty sure its the same thing fox uses for mirabelle and the "lets go somewhere private" lover following prompt where those npcs are desperate to stand in your personal space. I also see that you have UFO. From what I've read, either AFT or EFF are recommended over it. Your issue may stem from it. It could also be Immersive College of Winterhold because that mod gives all of the guild members new packages. Her vanilla package (what she does) is to hang around in a 512 unit (feet? not sure) radius around her bed when she's not sleeping or following you. I don't think that mod would affect her leaving though, so I'm still thinking UFO and/or MHiYH. Not MHIYH. She's still a resident of the college. Really hope it's not UFO, and actually don't think it is. I'm back to UFO from AFT and EFF, (My review of AFT and EFF), and this is a pretty long playthrough at this point hundreds of hours in. unless you have a vanilla save What's a vanilla? No, no sir. no vanilla saves since my first character many playthroughs ago. Anywho, got a lot of things to try and test out, so I better get started on it. Thanks for the input!
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