Submit + Devious Devices Progression DAYMOYL Mod

[Majin Buu]

If you need the previous version of SL Framework, here you go. Just remember, if you updated any other mods to work with the most recent SL, you will have to downgrade those too. Though really I just uninstalled this mod until it got updated. Devious Captures (add-on to Defeat) works just fine.

 

EDIT: I am having problems getting this mod to work too. I think it was after submitting, nothing would happen, at all. I could just walk away literally and enemy npcs would ignore me. Broken for me since upgrading to the most recent submit. And I don't think sexlab is the issue, I think it is submit updating which means this mod needs to update too.

[Guest]

Hey, i have a problem, after submit and sex scene, right before kneeling I get CTD. 

 

i'll let you know I do not get this issue meaning it must be something on your end so I have a couple of question and solutions.

 

--==QUESTIONS==--

-Do you have all of SL Submits dependencies?

 

-Have you ran FNIS or do you have the latest version?

 

-Do you have the memory patch?

 

-How many mods are you running whats your PC's specs?

 

-Is your load order correct?

 

--==SOLUTIONS==--

-Threaten your computer even go as far as to search on amazon for a mac and put it in your wishlist that will make him sweat a little.

 

-Completely uninstall all sexlab related content every last bit of it and after this step is complete comb through your skyrim directory looking for any loose scripts or files; Then after this is complete you can either do two things 1.) load up your save without sexlab content hope to god it loads it then if it does you can then choose to save (You might want to save indoors first before doing this or you could just load up everything except submit and reinstall after you save)  or 2.) Reload your game with all new files and hope submit works accurately.

 

make sure to run fnis!

 

[Guest]

If you need the previous version of SL Framework, here you go. Just remember, if you updated any other mods to work with the most recent SL, you will have to downgrade those too. Though really I just uninstalled this mod until it got updated. Devious Captures (add-on to Defeat) works just fine.

 

EDIT: I am having problems getting this mod to work too. I think it was after submitting, nothing would happen, at all. I could just walk away literally and enemy npcs would ignore me. Broken for me since upgrading to the most recent submit. And I don't think sexlab is the issue, I think it is submit updating which means this mod needs to update too.

 

Honestly sexlab 1.58b fixes alot of animation bugs i wouldn't recommend downgrading.

[flyingspaghettimonster]

After reading the comment section for submit it seems like a lot of other people have been having the same problem as I after updating even with a new character. Also, thanks thamorian for uploading the old Framework, I'm going to test it and see if it fixes the problems that I've been having

 

 

 

                EDIT: After testing with 1.57 the problems i had with 1.58b are gone.

[Sensual Nautilus]

 

 

i'll let you know I do not get this issue meaning it must be something on your end so I have a couple of question and solutions.

 

--==QUESTIONS==--

-Do you have all of SL Submits dependencies?

 

-Have you ran FNIS or do you have the latest version?

 

-Do you have the memory patch?

 

-How many mods are you running whats your PC's specs?

 

-Is your load order correct?

 

--==SOLUTIONS==--

-Threaten your computer even go as far as to search on amazon for a mac and put it in your wishlist that will make him sweat a little.

 

-Completely uninstall all sexlab related content every last bit of it and after this step is complete comb through your skyrim directory looking for any loose scripts or files; Then after this is complete you can either do two things 1.) load up your save without sexlab content hope to god it loads it then if it does you can then choose to save (You might want to save indoors first before doing this or you could just load up everything except submit and reinstall after you save)  or 2.) Reload your game with all new files and hope submit works accurately.

 

make sure to run fnis!

 

 

 

Glad to see a helpful face around 

Speaking now and supported by the rest of my previous posts, I can assure you I meet all the requirements, and have even isolated submit and its dependencies without the intrusion of other plugins on a new save and playing around with a full understanding of each of the options in the provided interface for the mod and its associated others, yet the problem's, mainly the lack of creature support and CTD every 2nd time or every time persists. I think I posted a log file a few posts back as well. Curious, what is the memory patch? is it something like the safety load, enboost, and precache killer (I have all 3) or different? I also do not have any performance issues in terms of rendering, scripts (apart from submits) and crashes (except when I deal with submit).

[Guest LoganX]

 

Hey, i have a problem, after submit and sex scene, right before kneeling I get CTD. 

 

i'll let you know I do not get this issue meaning it must be something on your end so I have a couple of question and solutions.

 

--==QUESTIONS==--

-Do you have all of SL Submits dependencies?

 

-Have you ran FNIS or do you have the latest version?

 

-Do you have the memory patch?

 

-How many mods are you running whats your PC's specs?

 

-Is your load order correct?

 

--==SOLUTIONS==--

-Threaten your computer even go as far as to search on amazon for a mac and put it in your wishlist that will make him sweat a little.

 

-Completely uninstall all sexlab related content every last bit of it and after this step is complete comb through your skyrim directory looking for any loose scripts or files; Then after this is complete you can either do two things 1.) load up your save without sexlab content hope to god it loads it then if it does you can then choose to save (You might want to save indoors first before doing this or you could just load up everything except submit and reinstall after you save)  or 2.) Reload your game with all new files and hope submit works accurately.

 

make sure to run fnis!

 

 

So, every previous versions of SexLub Submit worked well, without problems. I always run FNIS after specific mods, I know how to install them. Last time I update SexLabFramework to 1.58b, and run it with SL Submit 1.57. And after that I noticed CTD problem. So It's probably problem with newest SL Framework. Well, I'll just wait for next version of SL Submit that will work with SL Framework 1.58b. Thanks for replying.

[Ashra XIII]

I don't know if it's the fault of Sexlab Framework, because I've long had issues with this mod not working at all, even though the 'vanilla' version of Submit works just fine for me. I think there are some issues in this mod which not everybody gets caught with, and since support has been pretty minimal, it's not even being looked at.

 

Hopefully the original author of this mod comes back, or someone else picks it up full time, because I really prefer the way submitting and getting Devious Devices are handled in this version.

[Guest]

 

Glad to see a helpful face around 

Speaking now and supported by the rest of my previous posts, I can assure you I meet all the requirements, and have even isolated submit and its dependencies without the intrusion of other plugins on a new save and playing around with a full understanding of each of the options in the provided interface for the mod and its associated others, yet the problem's, mainly the lack of creature support and CTD every 2nd time or every time persists. I think I posted a log file a few posts back as well. Curious, what is the memory patch? is it something like the safety load, enboost, and precache killer (I have all 3) or different? I also do not have any performance issues in terms of rendering, scripts (apart from submits) and crashes (except when I deal with submit).

 

 

Watch this it explains all about it and shows you how it works Here in a nutshell it take your memory allocation of skyrim from 256 MB to 512 MB meaning than when skyrim hits 256 MB on screen especially if a big battle goes on you'll auto crash each time.

 

If you're no getting creature animation reset your animation registry in sexlab.

 

You're absolutely sure it isn't the mesh or your bodytype that is causing crashes? Try removing your clothes manually all of them to see if it doesn't crash.

[Veladarius]

I have crashes with this using SexLab 1.58b if a second attacker is involved as well as when trying to escape once bound it will crash if they notice me. I have had no issues using this before updating SexLab and I also tried updating SKSE to the latest version (was using the 1.7 alpha) and it still crashes. I don't get any crashes from any other SexLab mods (Deviously helpless, Radiant Prostitution or Random Attack). I also updated FNIS when updating SexLab and had no issues with that.

[Guest]

 

So, every previous versions of SexLub Submit worked well, without problems. I always run FNIS after specific mods, I know how to install them. Last time I update SexLabFramework to 1.58b, and run it with SL Submit 1.57. And after that I noticed CTD problem. So It's probably problem with newest SL Framework. Well, I'll just wait for next version of SL Submit that will work with SL Framework 1.58b. Thanks for replying.

 

 

 

 

So, every previous versions of SexLub Submit worked well, without problems.

 

Nope and I don't believe I said they did, what I am trying to say is that I personally have no issues with CTD's with the latest Sexlab 1.58b+Submit 1.67 versions.

 

I always run FNIS after specific mods, I know how to install them.

 

I know nothing on your knowledge of modding so I am just covering the basics.

 

Last time I update SexLabFramework to 1.58b, and run it with SL Submit 1.57. And after that I noticed CTD problem. So It's probably problem with newest SL Framework. 

 

There is no problem with the SL Framework if anything it is SL Submit having issues with 1.58b but as I said before I have no issues with these two in conjunction with one another so I believe you should do more testing try a completely new save and see if it works for example if it does then you probably need to go through a more thorough install method rather than just updating normally. One thing Submit doesn't have is a good updating procedure unlike Sexlab.

 

Well, I'll just wait for next version of SL Submit that will work with SL Framework 1.58b. Thanks for replying.

 

Completely up to you but I believe you can get it to work correctly just might take some effort and no problem.

 

 

My Specs:

 

 

VideoCard GeForce GTX 670 4GB

CPU Intel Core i5-3570K CPU

SSD Samsung 128GB SSD

Ram Ripjaws Series 8GB DDR3

 

 

[Guest]

I have crashes with this using SexLab 1.58b if a second attacker is involved as well as when trying to escape once bound it will crash if they notice me. I have had no issues using this before updating SexLab and I also tried updating SKSE to the latest version (was using the 1.7 alpha) and it still crashes. I don't get any crashes from any other SexLab mods (Deviously helpless, Radiant Prostitution or Random Attack). I also updated FNIS when updating SexLab and had no issues with that.

 

Well for this mod it doesn't seem to update well you'll need a clean install I use the save cleaner to get rid of old script instances, but yeah I am not getting crashes as far as the newest versions fortunately.

[Sensual Nautilus]

 

 

Glad to see a helpful face around 

Speaking now and supported by the rest of my previous posts, I can assure you I meet all the requirements, and have even isolated submit and its dependencies without the intrusion of other plugins on a new save and playing around with a full understanding of each of the options in the provided interface for the mod and its associated others, yet the problem's, mainly the lack of creature support and CTD every 2nd time or every time persists. I think I posted a log file a few posts back as well. Curious, what is the memory patch? is it something like the safety load, enboost, and precache killer (I have all 3) or different? I also do not have any performance issues in terms of rendering, scripts (apart from submits) and crashes (except when I deal with submit).

 

 

Watch this it explains all about it and shows you how it works Here in a nutshell it take your memory allocation of skyrim from 256 MB to 512 MB meaning than when skyrim hits 256 MB on screen especially if a big battle goes on you'll auto crash each time.

 

If you're no getting creature animation reset your animation registry in sexlab.

 

You're absolutely sure it isn't the mesh or your bodytype that is causing crashes? Try removing your clothes manually all of them to see if it doesn't crash.

 

 

Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it. Yes, I am well-acquainted with ENBoost already, been so for ages, along with another two performance tweaks, just as I have already typed on my previous post "is it something like the safety load, enboost, and precache killer (I have all 3) or different?", I'm just not used to it being called anything else but ENBoost. 

And finally, I am almost fervently sure It has nothing to do with my meshes, bodytypes or animations. If you read through the latest 4 pages or so from this thread, I indicate that all angles of my installation of sexlab and its other plugins work accordingly, even beast animations which i can test on a whim using a particularly young mod called Animal Sex, i think what it's called. It seems this mod's mechanics is what strictly failing, as I can play around with the devious devices and zazanimation assets just fine too.

[cadejocr]

Really don't know when or how because was playing cool with trillion of health potions. Last night i decide to let the  bad guys win and have some fun raping the PC. To my suprise pc die, no auto-surrender when health <=0, game reload. I check submit configuration and everything is OK. The only function working is the auto-surrender by the hot key. Test it and receive all the zaz gadgets including armbinder at once. No progression.

[Veladarius]

 

 

So, every previous versions of SexLub Submit worked well, without problems. I always run FNIS after specific mods, I know how to install them. Last time I update SexLabFramework to 1.58b, and run it with SL Submit 1.57. And after that I noticed CTD problem. So It's probably problem with newest SL Framework. Well, I'll just wait for next version of SL Submit that will work with SL Framework 1.58b. Thanks for replying.

 

 

 

 

So, every previous versions of SexLub Submit worked well, without problems.

 

Nope and I don't believe I said they did, what I am trying to say is that I personally have no issues with CTD's with the latest Sexlab 1.58b+Submit 1.67 versions.

 

I always run FNIS after specific mods, I know how to install them.

 

I know nothing on your knowledge of modding so I am just covering the basics.

 

Last time I update SexLabFramework to 1.58b, and run it with SL Submit 1.57. And after that I noticed CTD problem. So It's probably problem with newest SL Framework. 

 

There is no problem with the SL Framework if anything it is SL Submit having issues with 1.58b but as I said before I have no issues with these two in conjunction with one another so I believe you should do more testing try a completely new save and see if it works for example if it does then you probably need to go through a more thorough install method rather than just updating normally. One thing Submit doesn't have is a good updating procedure unlike Sexlab.

 

Well, I'll just wait for next version of SL Submit that will work with SL Framework 1.58b. Thanks for replying.

 

Completely up to you but I believe you can get it to work correctly just might take some effort and no problem.

 

 

My Specs:

 

 

VideoCard GeForce GTX 670 4GB

CPU Intel Core i5-3570K CPU

SSD Samsung 128GB SSD

Ram Ripjaws Series 8GB DDR3

 

 

 

 

I am also seeing issues with Deviously Helpless, it is crashing just before the player is released. I am thinking that a function was changed in SexLab enough to cause the issue (not the first time). I am going through the two mods scripts and see if any fail on recompiling and hopefully narrow the cause down.

[Guest]

Really don't know when or how because was playing cool with trillion of health potions. Last night i decide to let the  bad guys win and have some fun raping the PC. To my suprise pc die, no auto-surrender when health <=0, game reload. I check submit configuration and everything is OK. The only function working is the auto-surrender by the hot key. Test it and receive all the zaz gadgets including armbinder at once. No progression.

 

I noticed this can happen for three reasons:

 

1.) when "hardcore escape" is toggled on and after say you successfully escaped bondage but still have your hands tied and instead of asking someone to remove them you remove them manually by depositing them in a container/dead body.

 

2.) When you lose an encounter but the scene fails to play because of your attacker dying etc.

 

3.) you have your hands tied.

[Guest]

 

 

 

Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it. Yes, I am well-acquainted with ENBoost already, been so for ages, along with another two performance tweaks, just as I have already typed on my previous post "is it something like the safety load, enboost, and precache killer (I have all 3) or different?", I'm just not used to it being called anything else but ENBoost. 

 

And finally, I am almost fervently sure It has nothing to do with my meshes, bodytypes or animations. If you read through the latest 4 pages or so from this thread, I indicate that all angles of my installation of sexlab and its other plugins work accordingly, even beast animations which i can test on a whim using a particularly young mod called Animal Sex, i think what it's called. It seems this mod's mechanics is what strictly failing, as I can play around with the devious devices and zazanimation assets just fine too.

 

 

So you can't get beast animations to work through SL Submits surrender feature and you crash immediately upon removing your clothes or after they apply the devices?

[Senick]

my game crashes right before devices should be equipped, every time, even on a new save. It also happens with Devious helpless...

[Sensual Nautilus]

 

So you can't get beast animations to work through SL Submits surrender feature and you crash immediately upon removing your clothes or after they apply the devices?

 

 

Yes, submit beast functionality does not work and constantly refuses any form of submission (voluntarily or auto-submit), but it is confirmed that beast animations are working fine through other mods that uses them.

 

No, initially getting successfully captured oddly works perfectly without lag or issue, then if I escape, fail and get captured the second time, the game CTDs before the attacker can even throw its punches to knock me out again.

 

*Note-worthy point, devious devices and everything associated with it is working fine, and they can even appear during the fault's grace period which is the first time I get captured.*

[Feliks]

I saw that a few other people had this problem but I didn't see a fix, hotkey surrender doesn't seem to do anything in the latest version, and when auto-submit kicks in (not at the set amount, when I'm supposed to be dead) I just fall to my knees and sit there. My attackers walk away and I stare awkwardly at the character panting until I give up and load an earlier save. Anyone have any clue what the cause is?

 

EDIT: The seduction function does not appear to be working either. Going to attempt to downgrade Submit and then the framework to see if anything improves.

 

EDIT 2: Having downgraded them both separately and together and seeing no change, I have opted to forego this mod (unfortunately) until a solution becomes available for the bugs that plague me and others. 

[Guest]

my game crashes right before devices should be equipped, every time, even on a new save. It also happens with Devious helpless...

 

have you tried equipping them manually?

[Guest]

 

 

So you can't get beast animations to work through SL Submits surrender feature and you crash immediately upon removing your clothes or after they apply the devices?

 

 

Yes, submit beast functionality does not work and constantly refuses any form of submission (voluntarily or auto-submit), but it is confirmed that beast animations are working fine through other mods that uses them.

 

No, initially getting successfully captured oddly works perfectly without lag or issue, then if I escape, fail and get captured the second time, the game CTDs before the attacker can even throw its punches to knock me out again.

 

*Note-worthy point, devious devices and everything associated with it is working fine, and they can even appear during the fault's grace period which is the first time I get captured.*

 

 

Yes you're right beast animations aren't working for me either just tested it out but regular submission through hotkey and auto submit is working correctly for me at least.

 

Unfortunately I don't know how to fix your issue really but if I think of something i'll let you know, do you know if kain or mixedupjim is still working on this mod or has it been abandoned?

[Guest]

I saw that a few other people had this problem but I didn't see a fix, hotkey surrender doesn't seem to do anything in the latest version, and when auto-submit kicks in (not at the set amount, when I'm supposed to be dead) I just fall to my knees and sit there. My attackers walk away and I stare awkwardly at the character panting until I give up and load an earlier save. Anyone have any clue what the cause is?

 

EDIT: The seduction function does not appear to be working either. Going to attempt to downgrade Submit and then the framework to see if anything improves.

 

EDIT 2: Having downgraded them both separately and together and seeing no change, I have opted to forego this mod (unfortunately) until a solution becomes available for the bugs that plague me and others. 

 

To test if the mod is working correctly first start a new game and wait until SL Submit registers correctly, then make sure to go to mod configuration and set auto surrender key and uncheck "progression bondage" (Its called something like that) make sure it is off otherwise you won't be able to get devices on until you're at least level 5.

 

After this is done try spawning a bandit and try both submit by death and by hotkey to see if it works correctly.

[Senick]

 

I saw that a few other people had this problem but I didn't see a fix, hotkey surrender doesn't seem to do anything in the latest version, and when auto-submit kicks in (not at the set amount, when I'm supposed to be dead) I just fall to my knees and sit there. My attackers walk away and I stare awkwardly at the character panting until I give up and load an earlier save. Anyone have any clue what the cause is?

 

EDIT: The seduction function does not appear to be working either. Going to attempt to downgrade Submit and then the framework to see if anything improves.

 

EDIT 2: Having downgraded them both separately and together and seeing no change, I have opted to forego this mod (unfortunately) until a solution becomes available for the bugs that plague me and others. 

 

To test if the mod is working correctly first start a new game and wait until SL Submit registers correctly, then make sure to go to mod configuration and set auto surrender key and uncheck "progression bondage" (Its called something like that) make sure it is off otherwise you won't be able to get devices on until you're at least level 5.

 

After this is done try spawning a bandit and try both submit by death and by hotkey to see if it works correctly.

 

I am still getting this error after starting a totally new game, doing all the memory and performance improving tricks, uninstalling the game, redownloading it and starting from scratch, there is definitely something going on with this mod

[flyingspaghettimonster]

DK the mod author for submit is looking into the problem as he is also having problems. Source: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28940-submit-devious-devices-progression-mod/page-44

[Veladarius]

I have gotten it to work with SexLab v 1.58b (along with Deviously helpless), the issue is with the papyrusutil included in SexLab. To fix it I downgraded SexLab to 1.57 and got DD+Submit working again and made a save game. Then I reupdated SexLab and installed the papyrusUtil v22 over the one from SexLab and when I restarted it was working. You may be able to uninstall DD+Submit then fix SexLab with the papyrusUtil v22 then reinstall DD+Submit but I had not tried that.