thesapien Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 I also don't get his used of failure-prone systems like three strikes and zero tolerance. they do not distinguish between the repeat offenders and the people that are just having a bad day. When you have a bad day' date=' you tend to make stupid decisions. The fact that they don't make that sort of distinction seems almost sociopathic to me, and almost looks like a lack of empathy or something to that effect. They don't care about you, just their precious sites. If someone is scouting here for the nexus, send them this thread and let's see if they actually use their heads and lighten up. They seem to think that a tight ship is a good ship, but a tight ship is no good when it's so tight that you can't breathe. [/quote'] I like how this description in general is applicable to far more than just the nexus. Yep, we're not just talking about the Nexus. The use of the term "sociopath" was quite fitting, I thought, too. Given the power, many people tend to behave this way. It takes strong character to not become an egomaniac over your website. This is my house! And if you don't like it, get the fuck out! for example, quoted from memory of Eddie Murphy classic standup.
thesapien Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 In my experince it sums up many online communities Nonsense. Maybe I have selective memory or was just lucky, but it seems to me like forum admins aren't what they used to be. I'm remembering from more than a decade ago, but it seemed like moderators were pretty much nonexistent back then. Those that were responsible for managing a forum often acted like just another member. Banning wasn't even an issue that came up like it does now. Maybe, too, it's more a thing for the gaming and modding communities full of lots of kids and even here where adults are heavily influenced by the large number of young adults and the speech and behavior of so many kids in the gaming and modding community. I've noticed, for example, on more adult forums (by "adult" I don't mean masturbation) like political sites, site owners tend to let the adults manage each other. Yes, things can get ugly. But adults don't need other adults filtering such things for them.
Nonsense667 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 I was referring to real world laws and what-not, actually. And the problem of going with the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit of the law.
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 This is my house! And if you don't like it' date=' get the fuck out![/i'] for example, quoted from memory of Eddie Murphy classic standup. Well to be fair, they staff SHOULD be able to say that, it IS their house. However, when it comes to warning people for privately comminicating about something you dislike, it's going too far. I'm remembering from more than a decade ago' date=' but it seemed like moderators were pretty much nonexistent back then. Those that were responsible for managing a forum often acted like just another member. Banning wasn't even an issue that came up like it does now.[/quote'] Yeah, when I've modded/admined in the past that's pretty much how I treated it. The mod that mods the least while still keeping unacceptable material off of the site mods the best. Maybe' date=' too, it's more a thing for the gaming and modding communities full of lots of kids and even here where adults are heavily influenced by the large number of young adults and the speech and behavior of so many kids in the gaming and modding community. I've noticed, for example, on more adult forums (by "adult" I don't mean masturbation) like political sites, site owners tend to let the adults manage each other. Yes, things can get ugly. But adults don't need other adults filtering such things for them. [/quote'] Oh, sorta like here you mean
Ramses Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 The TOS portion of giskard's site is a capsule snapshot of everything that is wrong with that guy. A total ego-maniac with a neurotic need for attention and rule - his own. What a fruitcake. Guys like that clearly have small dicks. Pathetic.
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 I really gotta agree, like how he has in his readmes that you CAN modify his mods, but change anything and you have to replace his contact details with his so he doesn't get asked anything, and combine that with multiple layers of 'leave me the fuck alone and dont ask stuff' devices built in (IE: his FO3 foundation mod, he has an avatar NPC named for him ingame, only purpose is to.... answer 'seldom asked questions')
thesapien Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 Maybe' date=' too, it's more a thing for the gaming and modding communities full of lots of kids and even here where adults are heavily influenced by the large number of young adults and the speech and behavior of so many kids in the gaming and modding community. I've noticed, for example, on more adult forums (by "adult" I don't mean masturbation) like political sites, site owners tend to let the adults manage each other. Yes, things can get ugly. But adults don't need other adults filtering such things for them. [/quote'] Oh, sorta like here you mean Hah, we both know there's nothing particularly mature or adult-like about LL really. I've been into boobies and games for as long as I can remember. And just seeing those locked threads still sitting there, for all to read and wonder about... embarrassing.
movomo Posted May 14, 2012 Posted May 14, 2012 The TOS portion of giskard's site is a capsule snapshot of everything that is wrong with that guy. A total ego-maniac with a neurotic need for attention and rule - his own. What a fruitcake. Guys like that clearly have small dicks. Pathetic. If he considers the player is completely optional thing' date=' why he uploads his stuff on the internet? He needs only 1 game, 1 modder and a computer and no player no commuity no tools maker no patch maker. Oh what a freak? I think his mods are good anyway, but I've just seen his 'the other side of the moon'. Just the moment the modders release their mods on somewhere, those mods 'leave' their hands. Of course the mod is their own work, but it doesn't mean a modder may say [i']This is my mod! And if you don't like it, don't download and don't complain to me![/i] Please, if anyone wants to wank with their work, then let you be. Don't release your mod please. Don't use people's thanks as your Onani Pet.
Grumpf Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Just the moment the modders release their mods on somewhere' date=' those mods 'leave' their hands. Of course the mod is their own work, but it doesn't mean a modder may say [i']This is my mod! And if you don't like it, don't download and don't complain to me![/i] Please, if anyone wants to wank with their work, then let you be. Don't release your mod please. Don't use people's thanks as your Onani Pet. Totally. Welcome to the internet people! Whatever you publish or give will be used, changed with rule 34 and so on. If you don't want that, your option is to create something only for friends and go back to 1998 when we use to do LAN parties... So as much as I tried to ask permission for all the resources I used and as much as I asked people not to use my .kf file until CLS is finished (it's done now btw) let's be realistic: it's in the wild wild web, good luck with controlling what's going to happen now... Anyone remember this modder doing some nice clothes and then leaving the modding community, asking for everyone to not use her mods anymore and deleting all of them? That was sad and I really didn't get it...
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Hah' date=' we both know there's nothing particularly mature or adult-like about LL really. I've been into boobies and games for as long as I can remember. And just seeing those locked threads still sitting there, for all to read and wonder about... embarrassing. [/quote'] agreed What I can't believe about Giskard is how he seems to want to insulate himself so much. I mean fuck, dude is a superior modder, but insulating yourself never improves things.
MrMan11 Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I reckon the Nexus has to be harsh considering the size of the community but it is a bit harsh now, good thing I just keep my head down and post the occasional "thanks".
thesapien Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 I don't think being harsh should necessarily scale up with the size of the community, unless you want to micro-manage everyone. Just look at YouTube. They do a wonderful job. No, I'm not being sarcastic. I really appreciate the comments section on YouTube probably more so than any other forum right now, including this one. Also, side note, they have a superior registration method so that banning members actually means something to everyone, even to those who use Tor or hide their IP. Edit/PS: Not to say Nexus or LL should adopt such difficult registration procedures. It would probably turn off many potential new members. Tho, if Nexus is feeling big and burdened, they might consider it.
lolerzness Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Haha. I ain't banned on the Nexus yet. But i placed all my anger at them at my signature in their forums (written in Tagalog so that they wont be able to decipher unless they are desperate to know what he/i said) I'm just waiting the reaction if someone ever gets the message. Oh yeah. TVD and Vagrant are utterly one of the largest fucktards in Nexus. EVVAR. I can't DarkOne isn't seeing this.
lemonbalm Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I'm just waiting the reaction if someone ever gets the message. Even if they don't toss it into a translator some words are still in English (I assume because there's no translation). Since your username here and there are the same it wouldn't take much to deduce the gist of your message. Just saying. ah pag gumawa ako ng constructive criticism sa mga walls ng tao.Ban na kaagad? Diba pwedeng strike one muna? letse puro mga tarantdo dito. kita etits? bakit pa may tag na pang adult? namputsa naman oh. kulang nalang eh Martial Law. Kotae wa kitanai!
Mailamea Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Holy F*ck a fellow Filipino who got shutdown at nexus. If he can somehow get to read this "ganun tlaga sa nexus, sa sobrang bored ng mga admin. Pag may nakita sila instant ban agad. Walang warning warning. Yung mod ko one day palang finile hidden nila agad. Tapos banned na aq. Di nila binasa sa pinakaunang line. Na ill take it down if issues and problems can happen. Boom. Naging forum war pati si dark one nakisali.
lolerzness Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Holy F*ck a fellow Filipino who got shutdown at nexus. If he can somehow get to read this "ganun tlaga sa nexus' date=' sa sobrang bored ng mga admin. Pag may nakita sila instant ban agad. Walang warning warning. Yung mod ko one day palang finile hidden nila agad. Tapos banned na aq. Di nila binasa sa pinakaunang line. Na ill take it down if issues and problems can happen. Boom. Naging forum war pati si dark one nakisali. [/quote'] Lets erm use English. Baka ma OP mga pare natin dito. I'd doubt it. Unless again if they are that desperate.
lolerzness Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I'm just waiting the reaction if someone ever gets the message. Even if they don't toss it into a translator some words are still in English (I assume because there's no translation). Since your username here and there are the same it wouldn't take much to deduce the gist of your message. Just saying. ah pag gumawa ako ng constructive criticism sa mga walls ng tao.Ban na kaagad? Diba pwedeng strike one muna? letse puro mga tarantdo dito. kita etits? bakit pa may tag na pang adult? namputsa naman oh. kulang nalang eh Martial Law. Kotae wa kitanai! It's alright. I just want to see their reactions. Even though its most likely an instant ban.
lemonbalm Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Man, the more I read the daily banned threads over there, the more twitchy about piracy I think the moderators are getting. Guy banned from chat on the assumption that he was talking about piracy when he was only talking about a mod that was dependent on a DLC he didn't own. Anyone could have that problem if they didn't pay attention to the readme info or if a mod author didn't include details saying the DLC was needed. People getting banned left and right for admitting they don't have an up-to-date version of Skyrim, even though it's totally possible that they disabled their updates on Steam to prevent their game from installing patches without their consent. What about all the people at the beginning who didn't instantly patch up from 1.1? Does that mean they're all pirates too? They seriously need to loosen up over there and just ban the guys who outright say it's pirated. Sheesh!
Guest GingerTom Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Nexus makes new enemies every day--one day they'll have more enemies than supporters. Then they lose their advertisers.
thesapien Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Man' date=' the more I read the daily banned threads over there, the more twitchy about piracy I think the moderators are getting. Guy banned from chat on the assumption that he was talking about piracy when he was only talking about a mod that was dependent on a DLC he didn't own. Anyone could have that problem if they didn't pay attention to the readme info or if a mod author didn't include details saying the DLC was needed. People getting banned left and right for admitting they don't have an up-to-date version of Skyrim, even though it's totally possible that they disabled their updates on Steam to prevent their game from installing patches without their consent. What about all the people at the beginning who didn't instantly patch up from 1.1? Does that mean they're all pirates too? They seriously need to loosen up over there and just ban the guys who outright say it's pirated. Sheesh! [/quote'] Even better would be to follow LL's rule #6) "...It's not our business where you get a game... Keep it to yourself." Well, those were my favorite parts of the rule. Also from rule 6) "Piracy is not provided here... and helping somebody else pirate is strictly against the rules." I can respect that. Nexus is on a religious crusade against wicked pirates, yet they are the go-to website for these heretics who cannot use Steam. Sounds like the witch hunt is getting more intense.
lemonbalm Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Wow. Talk about attitude. Look at buddah's responses to a few questions/discussion. If he's going to snap at everybody like that maybe it's time to cut back on the workload. http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/677611-question-about-language-tags/
Guest GingerTom Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Here's another example of itchy trigger finger mods': http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/42187 Comments by Crackercreo
thesapien Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Wow. Talk about attitude. Look at buddah's responses to a few questions/discussion. If he's going to snap at everybody like that maybe it's time to cut back on the workload. http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/677611-question-about-language-tags/ Yeah, that was more attitude than funny with the intended humor not being funny at all. They keep saying how they are unpaid volunteers. I can understand why a lower traffic site would have volunteers with friends and/or family helping to get the business going. But Nexus? Does this mean I'm totally wrong in thinking the site owner is making good money from ad services and premium members? Maybe the business model doesn't work that well because higher traffic also increases server costs? I dunno. It just looks to me like the Nexus volunteers are slaving for their worshiped god master who gets rich. Perhaps daiy BJ's in the oval office? Or, maybe they are all independently wealthy? Bud is retired. Maybe they just do it for the love of the job; trolling for trolls IS fun. I'll bet banning can feel good too, perhaps become addictive fun. Good game.
Grumpf Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 150$ an hour is a very good rate for working from home. I'll do it for 148. They keep saying how they are unpaid volunteers. Does this mean I'm totally wrong in thinking the site owner is making good money from ad services and premium members? Well we know for sure that Robin is living from the Nexus and employs at least two people now (I think). So erm, well, you do the math...
Rokabur Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 My problem with Nexus is mods that are permanently hidden while the mods "review" them. Found a mod on nexus that wasn't there a few weeks ago yet the date it was last modified was Nov 11th '10.
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