Apropos

*gooser* · March 9, 2018

12 hours ago, gizmo1206 said:

so is this incompatible with all versions of radiant prostitution? because the one linked is different than radiant prostitution 3.2.2 by wraithslayer which i have installed

Yes, that is an old reference - I haven't tried the new RP so I cannot make the claim that they are definitively compatible.

But assuming the new RP is using a compatible version of JContainers, then it should work. JContainers has always been the issue of contention.

gizmo1206 · March 15, 2018

so after trying out some lesbian animations i noticed theres no text for it but when choosing to ride a female npc with my female character the apropos dialogue is about how she's using a strap on.so are there no dialogue for non strap on lesbian animations?

Kat_Ali · March 15, 2018

I've tried looking through the pages to see if anyone else had any similar problems, couldn't really find any. But with certain canine animations like Panic Consensual, fun, spooning, and other unique canine animations, their unique Apropos messages within the .txt files are not playing. Just the basic tags. Oral animations are not displaying messages at all. How could I fix this?

apropos.0.log

*gooser* · March 15, 2018

9 hours ago, Kat_Ali said:

I've tried looking through the pages to see if anyone else had any similar problems, couldn't really find any. But with certain canine animations like Panic Consensual, fun, spooning, and other unique canine animations, their unique Apropos messages within the .txt files are not playing. Just the basic tags. Oral animations are not displaying messages at all. How could I fix this?

apropos.0.log

Thanks for the log.

Now, are you concerned about messages that don't show that correspond to log entries of "Could not find", or something bigger?

Because in some of the cases below, Apropos searches in "Loving" and "Slutty" themes, and doesn't find the file it is looking for, then falls back to the non-themed (root) folder.

In other cases it appears that the file is truly missing, usually a higher stage # or something. For example, FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage5.txt.

Search "could" (56 hits in 1 file)
  D:\nmm\apropos.0.log (56 hits)
	Line 32: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'AS_FalmerDoggy' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 45: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'DayelyteDogFun' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 47: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'DayelyteDogFun' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 50: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'DayelyteDogSpooning' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 53: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'DayelyteWolfFun' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 55: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'DayelyteWolfFun' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 58: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'DDBeltedSolo' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 61: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'DogpanicConsensual' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 63: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'DogpanicConsensual' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 66: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'Dogpanicnew' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 68: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'Dogpanicnew' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 86: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'FlameatronachBehind' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 88: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'FlameatronachBehind' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 101: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'LurkerHolding' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 103: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'LurkerHolding' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 106: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'LurkerPenetration' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 108: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'LurkerPenetration' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 111: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'RieklingDouble' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 114: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'RieklingTest' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 117: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'SprigganCG' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 119: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'SprigganCG' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 122: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'SprigganLotus' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 124: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'SprigganLotus' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 127: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'TrollBehind' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 129: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'TrollBehind' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 162: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'WolfpanicConsensual' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 164: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'WolfpanicConsensual' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 167: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.RemoveTags: Could not find animation 'Wolfpanicnew' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 169: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:16PM] AproposAnimationPatchups.AddTags: Could not find animation 'Wolfpanicnew' in either creature or normal slots
	Line 192: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:35PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/Loving/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Vaginal.txt'
	Line 223: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:40PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/slutty/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Vaginal_Stage3.txt'
	Line 226: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:40PM] AproposDescriptionDb.GetStringFromArray() returning: What if someone sees this? Someone could come by at any moment, and see me getting fucked this way...
	Line 227: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:40PM] AproposDescriptionDb.ReplaceTokens returned : What if someone sees this? Someone could come by at any moment, and see me getting fucked this way...
	Line 228: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:40PM] AproposDescriptions.PresentMessage: mess What if someone sees this? Someone could come by at any moment, and see me getting fucked this way...
	Line 246: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:57PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/resistant/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage4.txt'
	Line 249: [03/14/2018 - 11:38:57PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage4.txt'
	Line 260: [03/14/2018 - 11:39:08PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/resistant/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage5.txt'
	Line 263: [03/14/2018 - 11:39:08PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage5.txt'
	Line 284: [03/14/2018 - 11:39:16PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/bdsm/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage6.txt'
	Line 287: [03/14/2018 - 11:39:16PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage6.txt'
	Line 473: [03/14/2018 - 11:42:21PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/bdsm/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Rape_Stage4.txt'
	Line 476: [03/14/2018 - 11:42:21PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Rape_Stage4.txt'
	Line 490: [03/14/2018 - 11:42:32PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/bdsm/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Rape_Stage5.txt'
	Line 493: [03/14/2018 - 11:42:32PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Rape_Stage5.txt'
	Line 511: [03/14/2018 - 11:42:39PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/bdsm/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Rape_Stage6.txt'
	Line 514: [03/14/2018 - 11:42:39PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Rape_Stage6.txt'
	Line 588: [03/14/2018 - 11:42:59PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/Loving/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Anal_Stage1.txt'
	Line 604: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:19PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/hardcore/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Stage2.txt'
	Line 607: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:19PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Stage2.txt'
	Line 632: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:29PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/bdsm/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Stage4.txt'
	Line 635: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:29PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Stage4.txt'
	Line 642: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:31PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/bdsm/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Orgasm.txt'
	Line 645: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:31PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Orgasm.txt'
	Line 660: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:33PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/resistant/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Stage4.txt'
	Line 663: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:33PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/FemaleActor_wolf/FemaleActor_wolf_Oral_Stage4.txt'
	Line 668: [03/14/2018 - 11:43:35PM] Could not find or read file 'Data/Apropos/db/bdsm/FemaleActor/FemaleActor_WearTearIncreased_Oral.txt'

Reesewow · March 15, 2018

11 hours ago, Kat_Ali said:

I've tried looking through the pages to see if anyone else had any similar problems, couldn't really find any. But with certain canine animations like Panic Consensual, fun, spooning, and other unique canine animations, their unique Apropos messages within the .txt files are not playing. Just the basic tags. Oral animations are not displaying messages at all. How could I fix this?

apropos.0.log

Also, be aware that if you are using MNC SLAL edition - the names of some of these animations have changed. This has been brought up in the thread elsewhere along with what you need to do to fix it. I don't believe the database provided in the Apropos download has been updated to use these new names.

gizmo1206 · March 16, 2018

does apropos only work for some animations? like ive noticed alot of horny creatures of skyrim animations like the bear ones dont say anything,i want to check if its a bug or not

*gooser* · March 16, 2018

3 minutes ago, gizmo1206 said:

does apropos only work for some animations? like ive noticed alot of horny creatures of skyrim animations like the bear ones dont say anything,i want to check if its a bug or not

Yes, that is correct. It doesn't universally apply to all animations. There are two "systems" in Apropos - tagged based descriptions, and unique animation descriptions (which actually still uses some tag detection).

As time as gone by, new types of animations have shown up - ones that Apropos never considered. For instance, Male on Female Creature, Male Creature on Male Creature. The logic for detecting these scenarios is either missing, or deficient.

Then, the descriptions have not been authored. They are actually human-created, and triggered by Apropos. Apropos doesn't synthesize them - but rather finds placeholders in the text files where variations can be inserted - variations on voice (1st, 2nd person, etc), w&t, and synonyms (pussy instead of vagina, etc).

HTH

gizmo1206 · March 16, 2018

9 minutes ago, gooser said:

Yes, that is correct. It doesn't universally apply to all animations. There are two "systems" in Apropos - tagged based descriptions, and unique animation descriptions (which actually still uses some tag detection).

As time as gone by, new types of animations have shown up - ones that Apropos never considered. For instance, Male on Female Creature, Male Creature on Male Creature. The logic for detecting these scenarios is either missing, or deficient.

Then, the descriptions have not been authored. They are actually human-created, and triggered by Apropos. Apropos doesn't synthesize them - but rather finds placeholders in the text files where variations can be inserted - variations on voice (1st, 2nd person, etc), w&t, and synonyms (pussy instead of vagina, etc).

HTH

ok thanks for the anwser,im glad this is the reason and its not a bug and it will limit any possible problems i might post about

terrorofmorrowind · March 22, 2018

I'm not sure if this has been said before but for some reason this mod doesn't work on non unique captured slaves from PAH, while slavetats itself definately does work on everyone. Is there a fix to make the mod aware of other npc's too?

*gooser* · March 22, 2018

44 minutes ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

I'm not sure if this has been said before but for some reason this mod doesn't work on non unique captured slaves from PAH, while slavetats itself definately does work on everyone. Is there a fix to make the mod aware of other npc's too?

It's on purpose.

antediluvian · March 22, 2018

Hey gooser,

Just as a request to add to The List for the new Apropos whenever it comes out, would it be possible to have races as a possible filter in the filenames?

e.g.,

FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal_Stage1.txt = Female cowgirls Male

FemaleOrcActor_Male_Vaginal_Stage1.txt = Female Orc dominates male

Then we could put in race-specific themes which would be handy for distinguishing the things that happen with beast races, like matted fur with a khajiit, or accidentally poking yourself or swallowing drool from the orc's dog teeth while kissing, etc. Heh.

darchangel891 · March 23, 2018

Ive been trying to edit the comment files with minimal success. Some things I change show up, while others dont. Is anyone willing to give me blonde instructions? Please please please?

Reesewow · March 23, 2018

1 hour ago, darchangel891 said:

Ive been trying to edit the comment files with minimal success. Some things I change show up, while others dont. Is anyone willing to give me blonde instructions? Please please please?

You can try using Apropos Edit (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3004-apropos-edit/) to help streamline things. I just like to do edits manually since I usually copy/paste/delete things rather than write new comments, but it seems to work fine.

Always found the most common things I'd screw up are -

1. Making sure the .json file is not screwed up with a missing comma/bracket ect. Using a .json validator helps with this.

2. If adding unique animations - adding the name to the unique animations file.

3. *MOST IMPORTANT AND EASY TO MISS* - copy any changed files to all of the "theme" folders with data in them. Example if I change FemaleActor_Male lines in the main database, I make sure to copy that folder to the resistant and slutty folders and overwrite the old files. Only exception here would be if you actually use themes, which I don't think most people do.

DamianGrimm · March 23, 2018

1 hour ago, darchangel891 said:

Ive been trying to edit the comment files with minimal success. Some things I change show up, while others dont. Is anyone willing to give me blonde instructions? Please please please?

And remember to never use ` but instead use '

darchangel891 · March 23, 2018

45 minutes ago, Reesewow said:

You can try using Apropos Edit (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3004-apropos-edit/) to help streamline things. I just like to do edits manually since I usually copy/paste/delete things rather than write new comments, but it seems to work fine.

Always found the most common things I'd screw up are -

1. Making sure the .json file is not screwed up with a missing comma/bracket ect. Using a .json validator helps with this.

2. If adding unique animations - adding the name to the unique animations file.

3. *MOST IMPORTANT AND EASY TO MISS* - copy any changed files to all of the "theme" folders with data in them. Example if I change FemaleActor_Male lines in the main database, I make sure to copy that folder to the resistant and slutty folders and overwrite the old files. Only exception here would be if you actually use themes, which I don't think most people do.

Thanks so much! I will give this a try

worik · March 27, 2018

I must confess that (after years) i'm still a bit confused how I have to read the Wear &Tear MCM settings correct. :classic_blush:

So finally time to ask:

Frequency set to 1 hour
chance of degrade to occur 10%

Does that mean:

Each hour, the dice is rolled?
I have a chance 1 out of 10 to get W%T reduced?
One dice for all 3 stats? Each stat seperately? Only one stat?

:thinking:

Second thought:

The "healing" stuff is designed to heal absolute numbers. Right? Wouldn't "percentage" numbers be a better idea? Just a thought?

*gooser* · March 27, 2018

6 hours ago, worik said:

I must confess that (after years) i'm still a bit confused how I have to read the Wear &Tear MCM settings correct.

So finally time to ask:

Frequency set to 1 hour

chance of degrade to occur 10%

Does that mean:

Each hour, the dice is rolled?

I have a chance 1 out of 10 to get W%T reduced?

One dice for all 3 stats? Each stat seperately? Only one stat?

:thinking:

Second thought:

The "healing" stuff is designed to heal absolute numbers. Right? Wouldn't "percentage" numbers be a better idea? Just a thought?

All three stats are considered as a set.

Please elaborate what you mean by percentage numbers.

worik · March 27, 2018

15 minutes ago, gooser said:

Please elaborate what you mean by percentage numbers.

My thought was to use the relative % value to heal instead of the absolute number. "Healing" is currently in absolute numbers?

Example:

200 absolute points of "W&T". I heal it with a spider egg.

A slider set to 20 would heal 20 in absolute numbers. Right? Resulting "W&T" would be 180.

My thought was 20 in % numbers. In that case the resulting "W&T" would be 160.

At first glance it might only look like a game of numbers, but at higher W&T levels it scales with the higher numerbs and has noticable effects again.

Is that practical?

*gooser* · March 27, 2018

4 hours ago, worik said:

My thought was to use the relative % value to heal instead of the absolute number. "Healing" is currently in absolute numbers?

Example:

200 absolute points of "W&T". I heal it with a spider egg.

A slider set to 20 would heal 20 in absolute numbers. Right? Resulting "W&T" would be 180.

My thought was 20 in % numbers. In that case the resulting "W&T" would be 160.

At first glance it might only look like a game of numbers, but at higher W&T levels it scales with the higher numerbs and has noticable effects again.

Is that practical?

Seems like a way to heal W&T very quickly.

You are also not considering the degrade factor, which calculates the actual "heal" amount per pass.

worik · March 27, 2018

19 minutes ago, gooser said:

You are also not considering the degrade factor, which calculates the actual "heal" amount per pass.

Yes, I left that out. My thought was primarily in the direction of no-natural-healing but ingrediant-based-healing-only.

That's where I found the "%" approach more appealing as the "absolute number".

And it's efficiency would of course depend on where the slider is set.

100-> immediate

0 -> forget it

As the mod is currently designed, I can easily rely on the natural process. And with that, the ingredients are not relevant enough to care for. That's the way I play now.

But I was thinking about the different style with the focus on ingredients to heal.

That's why I ask :smile:

Reesewow · March 27, 2018

1 hour ago, worik said:

As the mod is currently designed, I can easily rely on the natural process. And with that, the ingredients are not relevant enough to care for. That's the way I play now.

But I was thinking about the different style with the focus on ingredients to heal.

Not sure why it would matter if the ingredients healed a % of your wear or an absolute value. The system has a user-set maximum damage cap and the wear levels have specific damage amounts per level. I personally have spider eggs healing 50, and skooma healing 100. Carrying around a few bottles of skooma means I can usually heal myself out of W&T effects immediately if I get my character into a bad situation like being defeated by giants ect. If you find spider eggs don't heal enough to be useful for you, IMO try bumping up the value so that each spider egg can heal 1 level of abuse.

March 28, 2018

This mod request relates to another mod as it affects yours, "Nausicaas Tweaker".

Occasionally, usually on quests, speed and jump-height are very important, so of course I cheat tons and set Player's speed to max or so, and she jumps as high as superwoman.

But The tweaker never goes back down to less than 100% of speed.

I don't know if there's a way, but let's say your mod applies the effect of reducing player's speed to -30%,

if it reapplied that debuff once every couple hours (reapplied, not added or subtracted), it would help cheaters like me.

OK it sounded better in my head but it would be more fun, I swear.

Alternatively I could just find out the global you're using to reduce speed, but I'm not sure that wouldn't mess something up worse.

so instead of speed=speed -30,

it could be speed=100; speed=speed-30 (or maybe) if speed>100, speed=100; speed=speed-30

AnonAngelion · April 7, 2018

On 04/03/2014 at 6:44 PM, Dischord said:

Is this going to support females with sos ? and for example female that is marked as male in sexlab and the other way around ?

From my own experience, there's a certain mod, (PSQ Succubus Quest) I believe, that has an option to treat females as males when a schlong is equipped on them, this in turn causes Apropos to draw from the male section of descriptions when your own futa character has sex with a female.

AnonAngelion · April 7, 2018

Just curious, How close are you to completing a new version of Apropos @gooser? Love your mod and am eager to know what you have planned for a new release.

Sydney · April 10, 2018

I only just stumbled upon this! Its awesome! :D:D:D

Is it just me or is finding mods on LL a little cumbersome?

Thanks for this! It's brilliant!

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