Apparently, this is what LL's reputation is like

[RitualClarity]

I don't mean to cuss but.... fuck!. I have to admit in a way Halo is pointing the finger at my sorry ass. People have asked me what texture mod i use (body type) and i have always told them It was one of the optional files in Halos UNPCM mod and if they wanted the same textures to go to his site and download it for themselves. I have NEVER tried to pass that amazing quality of work off as my own and in fact i made an entire forum post praising how amazing his work really is  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24728-shameless-mod-plugging/. It never occurred to me that he would consider ass-kissing to be theft? This makes no sense to me, how exactly is using someones mod as intended an offense. 

Now i'm not saying trying to pass off even part of someones elses work as your own is OK, in fact, if i saw someone ripping any of Halos content I'd call them out in a heart beat.

And as for using content without others permission

 

 Halofarm

December 30, 2013 8:53 am  Reply

 

Well, if you want to do something without permission, that’s up to you. I have done that a few times. If you plan to release it on the nexus though, you need his permission, so be wise about it. Getting permission is always best. I usually only go without permissions if I have been unable to attain them after a week or two.

Here's the link in case you guys want to see the context he was referring to.http://mod.dysintropi.me/unpc/#comment-1053

 

Ugh, i don't even know what to say guys..i feel like i've been hit in the stomach. Guess this is what i get for trying to promote another modders work....lesson learned 

 

If he has a problem. If he is too afraid to talk directly to the individual that is improperly using his assets he just has to come here and let a moderator or Ashal himself know what the issue is. Ashal and the staff has a policy to side with the creator on situations like this regardless of what it does to the mods created using these creations. There is no problem.

 

It is just a case of someone being an ass and standing in a corner crying instead of "manning up" and taking care of business.

 

Well at least try to take care of business before going off crying that someone stole his sweetroll.

 

 

[Guest corespore]

I've been a fan of Chris for sometime and usually he backs up his statements with direct facts. Such as the time someone took his Khajiit follow and claimed it as their own he attempted to contact them on Nexus and ask them what the deal was and when they blocked him he took it to the nexus staff, I'm assuming they took care of it because those pics and claim of ownership vanished shortly thereafter. Point being he is (as far as i know) a direct person which is why the general statement of people ripping his content without any direct examples is perplexing me. I'm not going to toss him under the bus and assume he pulled this out of his ass, i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and guess he either saw something that was his or he thought was his (or perhaps someone told him so) but it would have been a boatload easier to know what he was so pissed about had he just said what or who got him so bound up in the first place. He is a damn good modder with a solid reputation in the community for the fact he is usually a level person, whatever got him up in arms had to have been worth such a flaming statement but it would have been more productive had he simply said what it was.

[dje34]

I don't care about what people think/write/say about these forums.

 

I learned much more things about skyrim, bethesda and modding in 5 months here than in 2 years on steam and nexus.

 

And I saw here more innovative mods and ideas than anywhere else.

[BAB PEEG]

I've been a fan of Chris for sometime and usually he backs up his statements with direct facts. Such as the time someone took his Khajiit follow and claimed it as their own he attempted to contact them on Nexus and ask them what the deal was and when they blocked him he took it to the nexus staff, I'm assuming they took care of it because those pics and claim of ownership vanished shortly thereafter. Point being he is (as far as i know) a direct person which is why the general statement of people ripping his content without any direct examples is perplexing me. I'm not going to toss him under the bus and assume he pulled this out of his ass, i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and guess he either saw something that was his or he thought was his (or perhaps someone told him so) but it would have been a boatload easier to know what he was so pissed about had he just said what or who got him so bound up in the first place. He is a damn good modder with a solid reputation in the community for the fact he is usually a level person, whatever got him up in arms had to have been worth such a flaming statement but it would have been more productive had he simply said what it was.

 

Mr. corespore, TEAR.DOWN.THAT.WORD.WALL!

[SquareDonut]

I see lots of polarized opinions on this matter, and I saw a lot of very interesting comments in this thread.

I was wondering if I should voice my opinion on this matter or not, whether it'll matter, but it probably won't.

"Opinions are like assholes..." You know how it goes. I feel I'm rather neutral about this.

 

I've been registered here for quite some time now, I'm a user on the Nexus and I also follow quite a few Skyrim modder's blogs.

I'm not very active on either site, I generally prefer to keep to my own, though I should mention that I have rather selfish personality.

 

I like to gather and salvage mods, resources, in some cases modify them for strictly my own use.

I don't re-share them, simply because it's more convenient, in exchange I also not advertise my own stuff - simply because eventually, someone would want it.

I'm not a highly knowledgeable person, I don't consider myself a modder, I don't have many unique assets, but I have some that I know people would love to have.

I know my way around ENBs, I can mess around with CK and Nifskope, I know the basics of 3dsmax - I learned to cater(somewhat) for my own needs, but I'm not afraid to ask for help when I need to.

 

I don't care for sex mods, and I don't care for children mods.

Please, try not to take the next sentence personally.

I'm disgusted by draugr/falmer/trolls having sex with humanoids (and I intentionally didn't mention the word 'rape' - and before somebody misunderstands, not because I'm okay with it, either), but not as much as child porn or anything even remotely suggestive to that. Whether people hide it behind a race mod, saying "but it's not really children" doesn't really make a difference to me.

 

Whether you guys accept it or not; IMO there's content here that should NOT be available, and definitely shouldn't be advertised.

I'm not going to name, but I saw posts with multiple pictures with clearly a child girl around an erect male - being called "art", because of the poster's popularity.

I don't find it acceptable, but I'm not going to protest against it, because, hell, I'm not prepared to take on the hate of the internet (Whether this post gives me a portion of that hate, or recieved as yet another valid view on this matter, remains to be seen.)

 

I find that if something is pushing my limits there are 2 choices: Ignore it or Get out.

How I chose to approach this, is really simple: I ignore it.

 

Before you come at me with burning torches, I'm not trying to bash LL. I think this forum is threading on a very, very fine edge, and there will be occassions when this line is crossed - it is inevitable, IMO. And that's why we have mods and admins.

 

And so that you don't feel that I'm here to bash you guys, here's the positive:

I feel LL is an absolutely great place to get TONS of useful information. People here are generally very helpful to each other, and it's a good thing.

There's plenty of stuff on the Nexus that I find should NOT be available there either, yet it's there.

 

How people choose to mod their games, doesn't really concern me. If I feel it's offending to me - I move on.

 

As for the whole Tumblr thing that sparkled this:

I think HoneyVanity has a fair point. She made the mod for people to have her characters as a followers, but she has to accept the fact that once you put something on the internet - it will be used and possibly abused by people. The threat for this becomes exponential if you're making content that's popular. You just have to deal with it.

 

I remember people post their characters as followers and presets on the Nexus explicitly asking people not to post pictures of said character naked or very little clothing - and it made me laugh. You're posting your character on a site with millions of users worldwide. This is like kicking a dead man and expecting him to stand up - it's not going to happen. If you wanted to keep the "dignity" of your character, to see it the way you wanted to see it, you should have kept it for yourself.

 

BUT, I completely agree on this: uniquely made content, like said body paint (if extracted from said texture) should not be shared around the community, especially not without consent. As far as I know this didn't happen, so there's nothing much to discuss on this part.

I understand HV's frustration with this, especially since I follow her blog and her character seems to be involved with theft issues around something called Second Life. I can see how something like this can "fill the cup".

 

The point I'm trying to make is simple:

-Users should handle the mod's resources as per mod author's request. If you want to modify something, do it yourself and FOR yourself, and try not to advertise it too much. Do not share it except with your close friends you trust.

-Modders should be aware that the community is extremely large, and can lead to copying, morphing, mutating. If said processes offends you, I would reconsider sharing mods, because sooner or later, it's going to get used somewhere.

 

 

To be honest, I've been following the Skyrim community for quite a while; and the drama around this community is going beyond stupid, so I decided to remove myself from it.

It's better for my sanity, I can enjoy whatever I morphed, mutated (even if it's not from scratch), and I don't have to be a part of any community's fake popularity contest - and I don't have to take the consequences of anyone recognizing part of their work and calling me a copycat - even if it's only partially true.

 

English isn't my first language so I apologise if something (or anything at all) I wrote makes no sense - I just felt like sharing the way I see things.

I know it's somewhat selfish, especially in a community that's based around sharing, and I know if everyone would think like this, the community would be much, much smaller and the drama would be based around why people advertise their stuff, but not share it.

 

~Edit: fixed some typos and sentences

[ElectricSheep]

All those wall of texts while the answer here is very simple: if you don't want your creation to be re-shared or used in a way you're unhappy with, simply don't share it in the first place, because once uploaded to the Internet you loose any control over it. Re-using available resources is the core thing that keeps the modding community going, hence expecting a shared mod not to be re-used is like throwing bread into water and expecting fishes not to eat it.

 

As for the kiddies porn, yeah, such stuff should be hunted down without any exceptions or excuses. This site deals in various kinky stuff, but there are limits to everything.

[Victoria K.]

well ragna and some people left after the pedo mod in the adult area that i really think that it should be deleted

 

im not kidding, everything has limits, even if its LL, some mods are just un-acepptable

 

thats why this site is getting more and more bad REP

 

Thanks for letting me know of this, I totally agree with you and with the others saying that's just plain wrong. This is an adult modding site, indeed shouldn't have anything to do in the slightest with naked kids.

 

I really understand ragna_rok and the others who already left.

 

Seriously, I'm largely open minded when it comes to 3D world sex, but this is going way too far over the line.

 

Indeed. Sex Adult Hardcore Site/Kids, naked. There is something that doesn't sound right in the slightless in these words put together.

 

People can keep telling whatever they want. Naked kids on an adult site has no excuses whatsoever.

 

I'm disgusted by draugr/falmer/trolls having sex with humanoids (and I intentionally didn't mention the word 'rape'), but not as much as child porn or anything even remotely suggestive to that. Whether people hide it behind a race mod, saying "but it's not really children" doesn't really make a difference to me.

 

Whether you guys accept it or not; IMO there's content here that should NOT be available, and definitely shouldn't be advertised.

I'm not going to name, but I saw posts with multiple pictures with clearly a child girl around an erect male - being called "art", because of the poster's popularity.

 

Completely agree and good thing the Interpol is getting rid of certain people luring them with 3D meshes in fact.

 

As for the kiddies porn, yeah, such stuff should be hunted down without any exceptions or excuses. This site deals in various kinky stuff, but there are limits to everything.

 

That sum it up pretty much all in two sentences.

[Ark of Truth]

If users have a complaint about a mod on the site they should contacted the site staff directly and explain why.

 

Discussing it in a thread well only give that mod more attention and solve nothing.

[Cynical Misanthrope]

What people do with their game in private I don't really give a fuck about it.

But what's really disgust me, is when pictures, on kiddies, in various poses in slutty/skimpy outfits starts flowing around.

Even if the kid is masqueraded as  "race X"

 

I have seen a few posts when users ask for incest porn, and thats when I ask myself: "what the fuck am I doing here?

[...0...]

 

 

 

@redflyingmonkey,

 

Beastial rape(i know its not humans and most of you don't care about animal rights or women rights)women rape, killing children, incest mods or molesting animals is ok?

 

We should remove all mods from this site, concerning killing and raping ITS AMMO or you just that hypocritical maybe somehow the children mods can be used for wrong reasons and rest is ok?

 

ITS A GAME FOR GOD SAKE.

 

I don't personally care what people do in their own computers to be honest, even if they were doing pedo stuff with the mod after all, this is not my problem but theirs. What concerns me is what could happen to the website should it be labelled as something allowing child pornography from law standards and what would happen to the rest of the mods and the modders should everything here be labelled in the same manner by slow minded people, like Halo. If you're a modder with some ethics and see that kind of biased and untrue review, then come on Loverslab to check on it and see "Skykids" in the adult mods section, would you stay ? 

 

 

 

 

Even if all child/loli mods are removed from LL, sexlab is still available.  The child mods, any patches, and copies of sexlab will be available somewhere on the internet.  The analogy, "It's like giving ammo (sexlab) to the guerilla without selling them the guns (child mod). They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns" could still apply.  The bad rep to LL would be the public availability of a framework for various sex mods that can cater to different people, good and bad, perceived or otherwise.

 

But this thread is starting to deviate from the subject of the OP.  So Halofarm is using Daz poser conversions.  That would explain his departure from Nexus and why he shouldn't be fast-pitching stones in his glass house.

 

My bad, it was guns, not ammos. I'm so terribly sorry, this changes everything.

 

 

The thing is, if you start banning content based on your own moral and ethic views you open a door that you don't want to open. The very same arguments that you use to justify your opinion can also be used by people who don't like rape mods, for example. But this discussion has been done to death and beyond - if you have a problem with anything, talk to the moderators or Ashal. If you don't like the decision they make, either live with it or don't. It's your choice and no one will blame you for that.

 

 

I've been desperately repeating for the past half hour that I am only saying what I'm thinking just like you're supposed to do on a forum, in the etymological sense of the term. I am not wanting it to be banned, I would like it to be banned, and those are totally different things. You can't come at me to deter me from thinking that those mods are repulsive, since you would be doing exactly what you look like you're pissed off against. And I can't come here asking for the mod to be removed since people are liking it and doing harmless game sessions with it. I only thought I could share my own personal point of vue with people whose neuron connections work faster than on Nexus and would be less prone to enraged defensiveness. 

The only thing I want to ask the moderators to do is something about the adult section situation of the mod for which I've personally no solution, stupid as I am. Nothing else. Get down that hose and calm the heck down people, I don't even see why you have to come at me to justify your use of Skykids or RCOTS as I'm only bashing the people who are using it wrongly and no one else. 

 

 

 

You know, if you are that worried about those guerillas using the ammo and guns and suffering a backlash for their actions, would it not be best to not sell them anything?

 

I know what you saying, but Ashal can't police the net.  People will do what they want as long as they think they can get away with it.  At least here, the "ammo" is purposely made to be useless with the "guns" that are available here.

 

 

Ive seen your screenshots of your mod the naked girl ones in the non adult section and i think WTF naked children. Offcorse you defend it with some animi fantasy crap or whatever but it still looks like a child fully naked but thats ok and you say skykids is not, which btw don't show any naked girls/boys?

 

 

[Redflyingmonkey]

 

 Halofarm

December 30, 2013 8:53 am  Reply

 

Well, if you want to do something without permission, that’s up to you. I have done that a few times. If you plan to release it on the nexus though, you need his permission, so be wise about it. Getting permission is always best. I usually only go without permissions if I have been unable to attain them after a week or two.

 

BOOM BOOM and BOOOOOOOM !

I'm sure he's reading this post, let's quote this ^ in every answer we write and see if he has something to say about it. 

[Guest]

I don't see how you can hate on LL, unless you are an uptight feminist who take computer games too seriously. We have mods that aren't available elsewhere and a ton of modders who freely share their work and provide support for it. As if that wasn't enough, the attitude is relaxed, tolerant and friendly. I have never been bullied or criticized here like I have on the Nexus for example. Either they are jealous or they are trying to denigrate us because they find some of the mods offensive, or it's the reason I suspect most. They want to download SexLab with all of their body but are so ashamed by the thought that it makes them frustrated to the level where they go on the net spewing out lies about LL.

[Spyder Arachnid]

 

 

 

 

@redflyingmonkey,

 

Beastial rape(i know its not humans and most of you don't care about animal rights or women rights)women rape, killing children, incest mods or molesting animals is ok?

 

We should remove all mods from this site, concerning killing and raping ITS AMMO or you just that hypocritical maybe somehow the children mods can be used for wrong reasons and rest is ok?

 

ITS A GAME FOR GOD SAKE.

 

I don't personally care what people do in their own computers to be honest, even if they were doing pedo stuff with the mod after all, this is not my problem but theirs. What concerns me is what could happen to the website should it be labelled as something allowing child pornography from law standards and what would happen to the rest of the mods and the modders should everything here be labelled in the same manner by slow minded people, like Halo. If you're a modder with some ethics and see that kind of biased and untrue review, then come on Loverslab to check on it and see "Skykids" in the adult mods section, would you stay ? 

 

 

 

 

Even if all child/loli mods are removed from LL, sexlab is still available.  The child mods, any patches, and copies of sexlab will be available somewhere on the internet.  The analogy, "It's like giving ammo (sexlab) to the guerilla without selling them the guns (child mod). They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns" could still apply.  The bad rep to LL would be the public availability of a framework for various sex mods that can cater to different people, good and bad, perceived or otherwise.

 

But this thread is starting to deviate from the subject of the OP.  So Halofarm is using Daz poser conversions.  That would explain his departure from Nexus and why he shouldn't be fast-pitching stones in his glass house.

 

My bad, it was guns, not ammos. I'm so terribly sorry, this changes everything.

 

 

The thing is, if you start banning content based on your own moral and ethic views you open a door that you don't want to open. The very same arguments that you use to justify your opinion can also be used by people who don't like rape mods, for example. But this discussion has been done to death and beyond - if you have a problem with anything, talk to the moderators or Ashal. If you don't like the decision they make, either live with it or don't. It's your choice and no one will blame you for that.

 

 

I've been desperately repeating for the past half hour that I am only saying what I'm thinking just like you're supposed to do on a forum, in the etymological sense of the term. I am not wanting it to be banned, I would like it to be banned, and those are totally different things. You can't come at me to deter me from thinking that those mods are repulsive, since you would be doing exactly what you look like you're pissed off against. And I can't come here asking for the mod to be removed since people are liking it and doing harmless game sessions with it. I only thought I could share my own personal point of vue with people whose neuron connections work faster than on Nexus and would be less prone to enraged defensiveness. 

The only thing I want to ask the moderators to do is something about the adult section situation of the mod for which I've personally no solution, stupid as I am. Nothing else. Get down that hose and calm the heck down people, I don't even see why you have to come at me to justify your use of Skykids or RCOTS as I'm only bashing the people who are using it wrongly and no one else. 

 

 

 

You know, if you are that worried about those guerillas using the ammo and guns and suffering a backlash for their actions, would it not be best to not sell them anything?

 

I know what you saying, but Ashal can't police the net.  People will do what they want as long as they think they can get away with it.  At least here, the "ammo" is purposely made to be useless with the "guns" that are available here.

 

 

Ive seen your screenshots of your mod the naked girl ones in the non adult section and i think WTF naked children. Offcorse you defend it with some animi fantasy crap or whatever but it still looks like a child fully naked but thats ok and you say skykids is not, which btw don't show any naked girls/boys?

 

 

Don't be a hypocrite. You post naked pictures of RCotS/CotS everywhere, along with them in skimpy/slutty clothes. You have no place to talk.

[ElectricSheep]

Just out of curiosity, what does "RCotS/CotS" stand for?

[Spyder Arachnid]

Just out of curiosity, what does "RCotS/CotS" stand for?

 

Reworked Children of the Sky, and then the original Children of the Sky. Two of the child mods here on LL. The other is SkyKids, which is usually abbreviated as SK.

[ElectricSheep]

Ok, thx.

 

I agree with those saying that anything kids related should be absolutely removed from LL. The mere fact that the main theme of this site is of erotic/porn nature should be enough to distinctly separate it from anything even slightly related to kids, even if it's non-adult.

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

 

I have seen a few posts when users ask for incest porn, and thats when I ask myself: "what the fuck am I doing here?

 

I'll be sure to post some incest for you.

 

Somebody close this thread already; we're way off topic and I'm starting to see why some people don't like this place. Whiny moralists fucking everywhere.

[ElectricSheep]

The topic is about LL having a bad reputation, so I wouldn't say the discussion is off topic.

 

I don't have a problem with even the kinkiest of mods posted here, but pedo stuff? No man, just no.

 

 

 

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

There's a difference between fantasy and reality, something that people who complain about any mod seems to forget.

 

Fuck it, I'm out.

[gvman3670]

I'm not going to name, but I saw posts with multiple pictures with clearly a child girl around an erect male - being called "art", because of the poster's popularity.

I don't find it acceptable, but I'm not going to protest against it, because, hell, I'm not prepared to take on the hate of the internet.

I remember seeing that post, too. I was put off by that as well. And if I remember correctly those pictures were linked from an Asian modding site, weren't they? I don't believe it was a LL member that posted the pics directly.

[Cynical Misanthrope]

I'll be sure to post some incest for you.

Somebody close this thread already; we're way off topic and I'm starting to see why some people don't like this place. Whiny moralists fucking everywhere.

 

 

Thank you, but I pass. Fantasy or not, Just as ElectricShep says: Any kid related stuff should be removed. Especially of the sexual kind.

I am actually quite open minded. Or I try to be. But no god damn pedo stuff.

 

As for LL reputation, I can't really say anything about it. I do not sit around and dig up stuff about LL and I do not follow any blogs of any kind.

So it would retarded of me to speak about a subject I know nothing about. But since the subject of kids mods were already mentioned I wanted to give my 2 cents.

 

I thought LL were a place to find erotic/porn mods, not provide links to various pedo stuff.

I don't think it helps LL reputation to have pedo stuff hosted here.

[SquareDonut]

 

 

I remember seeing that post, too. I was put off by that as well. And if I remember correctly those pictures were linked from an Asian modding site, weren't they? I don't believe it was a LL member that posted the pics directly.

 

The pictures I'm referring to were made by a LL user, still active on the site.

 

Again - I don't care how people mod their games, it's their choice, and not my problem.

I don't want CotS or SexLab removed. They are not offending to me.

 

Posting pictures with clearly underaged content, without moderation, while having rules against it, is what caught me, simple as that.

I simply think that strict enforcement of this rule could easily increase the reputation of LL - whether this happens or not, doesn't really bother me.

In the end I get what I want from the forum, what others do in their free time is not my concern.

 

[RitualClarity]

I've been a fan of Chris for sometime and usually he backs up his statements with direct facts. Such as the time someone took his Khajiit follow and claimed it as their own he attempted to contact them on Nexus and ask them what the deal was and when they blocked him he took it to the nexus staff, I'm assuming they took care of it because those pics and claim of ownership vanished shortly thereafter. Point being he is (as far as i know) a direct person which is why the general statement of people ripping his content without any direct examples is perplexing me. I'm not going to toss him under the bus and assume he pulled this out of his ass, i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and guess he either saw something that was his or he thought was his (or perhaps someone told him so) but it would have been a boatload easier to know what he was so pissed about had he just said what or who got him so bound up in the first place. He is a damn good modder with a solid reputation in the community for the fact he is usually a level person, whatever got him up in arms had to have been worth such a flaming statement but it would have been more productive had he simply said what it was.

That just makes his statement even more an issue. I have just seen some of his work and it is good.

 

Just for the record I can even understand frustration or anger at perceived slights and misuse of work that he has done. His post wasn't just about improperly used assets from his mod. It was an attack of a site and indirectly every single user and mod creator here on this site essentially labeling them as thief, peedo and all other manner of perverts. Not everybody here on this site mods. Not everybody on this site even uses sex mods or other "assets" provided by the modders here. Most of the individuals here create their materials from scratch or go through extremely tedious efforts to gain proper permissions for the assets they use.

 

He would have my attention had the post were directed at those that have stolen his work. Post references and evidence to back up his statements or at least let us know where and what he found so that we can understand. Anybody can post all sorts of crap. Emotion, anger or any other reason isn't a cause to essentially libel every person that uses this site.

 

He should give examples, mods that use his creations that he claims have been stolen. These examples would lend credibility to his statements even if we don't agree with his interpretation. Let us see what the issues is so that we can at least understand and have the opportunity to resolve them. I can attest that any time I found clearly TOS violations {Rule 13} (including pedo stuff) on this site I report it and the material and the poster is banned. This has happened several times due to the nature of the site will attract individuals like this. I can assure you that each and every-time the response from the moderator team was quick.

 

This is the first interaction I have had with him. I haven't had the benefit of seeing or understanding him outside of a few post about mods and the offending post. Rest assure I have no intention of throwing him under the bus however currently I have little respect for what he is commenting on. I will keep my opinion open on him based on what you state here corespore until i find more info out on him to make a better more informed opinion.

[Guest corespore]

 

I've been a fan of Chris for sometime and usually he backs up his statements with direct facts. Such as the time someone took his Khajiit follow and claimed it as their own he attempted to contact them on Nexus and ask them what the deal was and when they blocked him he took it to the nexus staff, I'm assuming they took care of it because those pics and claim of ownership vanished shortly thereafter. Point being he is (as far as i know) a direct person which is why the general statement of people ripping his content without any direct examples is perplexing me. I'm not going to toss him under the bus and assume he pulled this out of his ass, i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and guess he either saw something that was his or he thought was his (or perhaps someone told him so) but it would have been a boatload easier to know what he was so pissed about had he just said what or who got him so bound up in the first place. He is a damn good modder with a solid reputation in the community for the fact he is usually a level person, whatever got him up in arms had to have been worth such a flaming statement but it would have been more productive had he simply said what it was.

That just makes his statement even more an issue. I have just seen some of his work and it is good.

 

Just for the record I can even understand frustration or anger at perceived slights and misuse of work that he has done. His post wasn't just about improperly used assets from his mod. It was an attack of a site and indirectly every single user and mod creator here on this site essentially labeling them as thief, peedo and all other manner of perverts. Not everybody here on this site mods. Not everybody on this site even uses sex mods or other "assets" provided by the modders here. Most of the individuals here create their materials from scratch or go through extremely tedious efforts to gain proper permissions for the assets they use.

 

He would have my attention had the post were directed at those that have stolen his work. Post references and evidence to back up his statements or at least let us know where and what he found so that we can understand. Anybody can post all sorts of crap. Emotion, anger or any other reason isn't a cause to essentially libel every person that uses this site.

 

He should give examples, mods that use his creations that he claims have been stolen. These examples would lend credibility to his statements even if we don't agree with his interpretation. Let us see what the issues is so that we can at least understand and have the opportunity to resolve them. I can attest that any time I found clearly TOS violations {Rule 13} (including pedo stuff) on this site I report it and the material and the poster is banned. This has happened several times due to the nature of the site will attract individuals like this. I can assure you that each and every-time the response from the moderator team was quick.

 

This is the first interaction I have had with him. I haven't had the benefit of seeing or understanding him outside of a few post about mods and the offending post. Rest assure I have no intention of throwing him under the bus however currently I have little respect for what he is commenting on. I will keep my opinion open on him based on what you state here corespore until i find more info out on him to make a better more informed opinion.

 

At any rate I'm going to try and contact him directly and see if i can't get to the bottom of what the deal is. If someone did rip his content it would be in the best interests of everyone if it was removed and if his statements aren't founded in any fact we should atleast get an apology. Like i said he is usually an open person, afterall, he gave open permission to use any of the content he makes whole or in part. The only thing he asked in return for was proper credit for his work and to my knowledge anyone who has used his assets were damn sure to give him credits

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