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The very moment you start to remove things under the premise that somebody, somewhere is using it for "illegal" means is the very moment you need to remove everything. Because practically any mod here can be used in some way, somewhere by somebody to do something "illegal" in any part of the world.

 

It's a slippery slope toward mind policing and treating people like they're incapable of making their own choices. it becomes about the minority telling the majority what to do and the place being controlled by fear. It removes all freedom. And trust me, that WILL kill this place faster than having those mods here.

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It's still pretty damn obvious what you're doing when you're putting it in the adult mod section of a forum though Kyubey, and hypocritical too. This crappy internet feud wouldn't even have started if the mod was in the non adult section to begin with, and it's the fact it's author put it there that's bugging me. 

 

And again, it is only my thoughts, no one cares about them and I'm not asking anyone to "please remove it I don't want to see it anymore it's making me puke every time I come here", no, it's not what I'm saying. I know very well there are people that are using these mods just because it is fun to play as a kid and nothing else in mind. 

I'm only sharing what I've thinking about the matter since this is a forum, which was in Roman time an "open space" where anyone could come and speak about what they're thinking. So I'm coming here, with my tunic covering only half of my Roman ass, and I'd appreciate it if people could stop trying to read between the lines when I'm speaking, I've not been repeating the verb "I think" needlessly. Off I go to the latrines, ave

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Even if all child/loli mods are removed from LL, sexlab is still available.  The child mods, any patches, and copies of sexlab will be available somewhere on the internet.  The analogy, "It's like giving ammo (sexlab) to the guerilla without selling them the guns (child mod). They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns" could still apply.  The bad rep to LL would be the public availability of a framework for various sex mods that can cater to different people, good and bad, perceived or otherwise.

 

But this thread is starting to deviate from the subject of the OP.  So Halofarm is using Daz poser conversions.  That would explain his departure from Nexus and why he shouldn't be fast-pitching stones in his glass house.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Even if all child/loli mods are removed from LL, sexlab is still available.  The child mods, any patches, and copies of sexlab will be available somewhere on the internet.  The analogy, "It's like giving ammo (sexlab) to the guerilla without selling them the guns (child mod). They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns" could still apply.  The bad rep to LL would be the public availability of a framework for various sex mods that can cater to different people, good and bad, perceived or otherwise.

 

But this thread is starting to deviate from the subject of the OP.  So Halofarm is using Daz poser conversions.  That would explain his departure from Nexus and why he shouldn't be fast-pitching stones in his glass house.

 

So you're basically admitting child mods are ammo here, and that we should just keep the ammo here since if they're gone from LL it'd be the same thing ? Pretty damning. Anyway, again, I'm not saying that I want the mod gone, but that I'd like it gone, it's two different things. I'd like to go out with Sasha Grey, but I don't want to, since she has licked man assholes (literally) for half of her life. 

 

And you're right about digressing, I didn't think I'd be answering to people furiously defending SkyKids and RCOTS as I thought the community was pretty discrete. But I've been repeating that I only have issues with the people using it in the wrong way, or the fact that it is after all in the adult section (for the third goddam time). 

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It's like giving ammo to the guerilla without selling them the guns. They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns. (I know, pretty hardcore comparison, but it still works). 

 

Could you honestly say that you're 100% percent sure that Skykids or RCOTS isn't used in any computer by some common geek addicted to underage porn ? I've seen a comment talking about basic knowledge, if it was really that simple, the mod would've been uploaded on Nexus since, hell, it just adds pretty kids and nothing else right ? 

And firstly, why the heck is it uploaded in the adult section ?! That alone is the only reason why LL could get bad reputation, it is obvious it shouldn't be there in the first place !

The first point...only the gorilla is actually guilty of anything if you live in a world where anybody has ever heard of personal responsibility. Just as the hardware can't be held accountable for a murder with a kitchen knife or a sporting goods store isn't liable for a murder with a baseball bat (coincidentally, more people have been murdered with those things than with guns :o).

 

I can't say that nobody's modified a child replacer mod for nefarious reasons, but (as in the gorilla analogy) only said party is responsible for using it that way and not the mod authors. If someone has the ability to do that with the mod then they can go into the CK and turn an adult into a kid so that adult mods will work on them. Right? They wouldn't need a child replacer in the first place.

 

As for it being in the adult section, there is nudity available. All mods with nudity get placed in the adult section both here and at the Nexus. The possible nude children is the only reason Nexus doesn't host these mods, yet they're perfectly OK with mods that let you kill kids. How can anyone reason that one out? I can't. It's entirely immoral and illogical.

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My bad on the Skykids mod allowing sexlab animations for kids, it can nevertheless be done manually by people who know what they are doing and what they want. Thing is, the mod itself gives the needed models for the "internet black market" to tweak accordingly to the pedo standards.

It's like giving ammo to the guerilla without selling them the guns. They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns. (I know, pretty hardcore comparison, but it still works). 

 

Could you honestly say that you're 100% percent sure that Skykids or RCOTS isn't used in any computer by some common geek addicted to underage porn ? I've seen a comment talking about basic knowledge, if it was really that simple, the mod would've been uploaded on Nexus since, hell, it just adds pretty kids and nothing else right ? 

And firstly, why the heck is it uploaded in the adult section ?! That alone is the only reason why LL could get bad reputation, it is obvious it shouldn't be there in the first place ! 

 

I love this forum just like everyone posting here, and I'd hate it if it was forced to close thanks to two or three mods that are playing way too closely with the line, thus endangering all the other great mods here that are not getting enough recognition. The great works of people like bleagh or Gone that have nothing to do with kids could be indelibly flagged as inappropriate because of that kind of misunderstanding, because at some point, someone will manage to make a patch where a kid can masturbate or fuck a horse, and it won't be funny anymore. Who will get the blame at that point, the ones making the meshes of the kids, or the ones making the animations or the one who made the patch ? 

 

This is the internet, things can go airborne just from one single polemic started about a mod it's authors deemed completely innocent. I personally would like to see those kid mods gone, but that's my own personal view on the subject and no one but me can care about it, still, if it's not getting cut, couldn't it at least be placed in the non adult mods section ? 

 

We should ban spoons because it can be used as murder weapon by someone. :P

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Even if all child/loli mods are removed from LL, sexlab is still available.  The child mods, any patches, and copies of sexlab will be available somewhere on the internet.  The analogy, "It's like giving ammo (sexlab) to the guerilla without selling them the guns (child mod). They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns" could still apply.  The bad rep to LL would be the public availability of a framework for various sex mods that can cater to different people, good and bad, perceived or otherwise.

 

But this thread is starting to deviate from the subject of the OP.  So Halofarm is using Daz poser conversions.  That would explain his departure from Nexus and why he shouldn't be fast-pitching stones in his glass house.

 

So you're basically admitting child mods are ammo here, and that we should just keep the ammo here since if they're gone from LL it'd be the same thing ? Pretty damning. Anyway, again, I'm not saying that I want the mod gone, but that I'd like it gone, it's two different things. I'd like to go out with Sasha Grey, but I don't want to, since she has licked man assholes (literally) for half of her life. 

 

And you're right about digressing, I didn't think I'd be answering to people furiously defending SkyKids and RCOTS as I thought the community was pretty discrete. But I've been repeating that I only have issues with the people using it in the wrong way, or the fact that it is after all in the adult section (for the third goddam time). 

 

 

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My bad on the Skykids mod allowing sexlab animations for kids, it can nevertheless be done manually by people who know what they are doing and what they want. Thing is, the mod itself gives the needed models for the "internet black market" to tweak accordingly to the pedo standards.

It's like giving ammo to the guerilla without selling them the guns. They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns. (I know, pretty hardcore comparison, but it still works). 

 

Could you honestly say that you're 100% percent sure that Skykids or RCOTS isn't used in any computer by some common geek addicted to underage porn ? I've seen a comment talking about basic knowledge, if it was really that simple, the mod would've been uploaded on Nexus since, hell, it just adds pretty kids and nothing else right ? 

And firstly, why the heck is it uploaded in the adult section ?! That alone is the only reason why LL could get bad reputation, it is obvious it shouldn't be there in the first place ! 

 

 

You don't even need a child overhaul for that, just an extended racemenu and any body mesh that has small or close to no breasts. Scale the height, make some adjustments to proportions and you have your child. Someone that knows how to circumvent the barrier that SexLab has doesn't need mods like Skykids.

 

Any mod that allows children to be killed - Skykids adds children to some hostile factions, according to the description - should be in the adult section by default, so your point is moot. The nude patch is close to crossing the line, yes. But nudity in itself is not necessarily pornographic or sexual. What people do with the tools you give them is their thing and nothing you can control. And you're not responsible for that. I think a better comparison would be you selling a hammer to a guy. Whether he uses the hammer for bashing in nails or skulls is his choice and not yours and you can't be held responsible for what he does with the hammer.

 

The thing is, if you start banning content based on your own moral and ethic views you open a door that you don't want to open. The very same arguments that you use to justify your opinion can also be used by people who don't like rape mods, for example. But this discussion has been done to death and beyond - if you have a problem with anything, talk to the moderators or Ashal. If you don't like the decision they make, either live with it or don't. It's your choice and no one will blame you for that.

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The first point...only the gorilla is actually guilty of anything if you live in a world where anybody has ever heard of personal responsibility. Just as the hardware can't be held accountable for a murder with a kitchen knife or a sporting goods store isn't liable for a murder with a baseball bat (coincidentally, more people have been murdered with those things than with guns :o).

 

I can't say that nobody's modified a child replacer mod for nefarious reasons, but (as in the gorilla analogy) only said party is responsible for using it that way and not the mod authors. If someone has the ability to do that with the mod then they can go into the CK and turn an adult into a kid so that adult mods will work on them. Right? They wouldn't need a child replacer in the first place.

 

As for it being in the adult section, there is nudity available. All mods with nudity get placed in the adult section both here and at the Nexus. The possible nude children is the only reason Nexus doesn't host these mods, yet they're perfectly OK with mods that let you kill kids. How can anyone reason that one out? I can't. It's entirely immoral and illogical.

 

 

I've talked to you before and I know you're smart enough to realize this is a really really large analogy. There is a world of difference between murder and illegal porn issues on the internet. Furthermore, the blame itself is not the end to the analogy, it's the mean. What I'm saying is that the fact that people would look for someone to blame in this situation is what's bugging me, when animators never meant their animations to be used with kids, they could still be suspected when it comes to knowing where the blame falls.

 

Just as you are saying, it would be like suspecting the innocent people crafting the ammo, without knowing where they would be used, for what their sellers have done, selling them to the guerilla.

 

Because I do believe the people selling guns to murderers are as responsible for the murder as the murderer himself, from my European point of vue. I do hope you don't think that selling guns to a known murderer is a good thing.

 

But again, this is the internet, there is no way to separate innocents from the guilty here as the people who want to do creepy stuff with the mod will just take it and do what they want to do without any chance to recognize them. Still, allowing the mod not to be tracked by a simple "adult, kid" word tag on google would do a lot in the field of reputation. 

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As for what other think of us, I couldn't give a damn, we police our own here according to our rules i.e. Rule 3: We may be an adult oriented community, but don't be stupid, don't post anything blatantly illegal. Meaning no illegal torrents, charging money for mods, child pornography (including prepubescent shota or loli content in a sexual context), and other such illegal content. If you find yourself asking, "Should I post this questionably legal content?" The answer is No.

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@redflyingmonkey,

 

Beastial rape(i know its not humans and most of you don't care about animal rights or women rights)women rape, killing children, incest mods or molesting animals is ok?

 

We should remove all mods from this site, concerning killing and raping ITS AMMO or you just that hypocritical maybe somehow the children mods can be used for wrong reasons and rest is ok?

 

ITS A GAME FOR GOD SAKE.

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Because I do believe the people selling guns to murderers are as responsible for the murder as the murderer himself, from my European point of vue. I do hope you don't think that selling guns to a known murderer is a good thing.

I'm American and own over 100 firearms. :lol: If I kill somebody with a firearm I'd never think of blaming the makers of the guns or the ammo. That's simply asinine. Kind of childish, too. Maybe it's good most Europeans can't have guns? They don't seem to hold themselves to any reasonable level of self-responsibility. ;) Getting it yet? :D This is a direct analogy to the topic at hand. Responsibility for ones' actions is the key here.

 

Contrary to what you might believe or have heard/seen on the news or movies, even here in the US where we have 100s of millions of guns most murders are committed with ball bats, knives and cars. Heck, deer kill more people (in car accidents) in the US than get killed with firearms. Plus known murderers (or anyone convicted of any violent crime) can't buy guns here, and known child abusers aren't allowed around children. Even in my job I have to pass background checks because I often work on government buildings that contain children (schools and such).

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@redflyingmonkey,

 

Beastial rape(i know its not humans and most of you don't care about animal rights or women rights)women rape, killing children, incest mods or molesting animals is ok?

 

We should remove all mods from this site, concerning killing and raping ITS AMMO or you just that hypocritical maybe somehow the children mods can be used for wrong reasons and rest is ok?

 

ITS A GAME FOR GOD SAKE.

 

I don't personally care what people do in their own computers to be honest, even if they were doing pedo stuff with the mod after all, this is not my problem but theirs. What concerns me is what could happen to the website should it be labelled as something allowing child pornography from law standards and what would happen to the rest of the mods and the modders should everything here be labelled in the same manner by slow minded people, like Halo. If you're a modder with some ethics and see that kind of biased and untrue article, then come on Loverslab to check on it and see "Skykids" in the adult mods section, would you stay ? 

 

It is a game as you say and I do not care about what others are doing in it, I personally don't like it but others can, it's like mayonnaise or ketchup. What I'm worried about are real life issues here, the website itself, and the ethical digressions are starting to go way over the subject. 

Again, this is the internet, and a website has to be completely clean to be able to be able to draw a major middle finger to it's haters. And we can't really draw the middle one to Halo just yet since we do have a kid mod in the god damned adult section. And I really want to draw my middle finger to Halo. And Nexus. 

 

 

Even if all child/loli mods are removed from LL, sexlab is still available.  The child mods, any patches, and copies of sexlab will be available somewhere on the internet.  The analogy, "It's like giving ammo (sexlab) to the guerilla without selling them the guns (child mod). They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns" could still apply.  The bad rep to LL would be the public availability of a framework for various sex mods that can cater to different people, good and bad, perceived or otherwise.

 

But this thread is starting to deviate from the subject of the OP.  So Halofarm is using Daz poser conversions.  That would explain his departure from Nexus and why he shouldn't be fast-pitching stones in his glass house.

 

My bad, it was guns, not ammos. I'm so terribly sorry, this changes everything. (I know what you are talking about I'm only joking and I kind of agree with your point)

 

 

The thing is, if you start banning content based on your own moral and ethic views you open a door that you don't want to open. The very same arguments that you use to justify your opinion can also be used by people who don't like rape mods, for example. But this discussion has been done to death and beyond - if you have a problem with anything, talk to the moderators or Ashal. If you don't like the decision they make, either live with it or don't. It's your choice and no one will blame you for that.

 

 

I've been desperately repeating for the past half hour that I am only talking  just like you're supposed to talk on a forum, in the etymological sense of the term. I am not wanting it to be banned, I would like it to be gone, and those are two totally different things. You can't come at me to deter me from not liking these mods, since you would be doing exactly what you look like you're pissed off against. I'm not asking anyone to ban the mod, I've only said I didn't like it personally, and may have created one hell of a misunderstanding doing so.

 

And I can't possibly come here asking for the mod to be removed since people are liking it and doing harmless game sessions with it. I only thought I could share my own personal point of vue with people whose neuron connections work faster than on Nexus and would be less prone to enraged defensiveness.

 

The only thing I want to ask the moderators to do is something about the adult section situation of the mod for which I've personally no solution, stupid as I am. Nothing else. Get down that hose and calm the heck down people, I don't even see why you have to come at me to justify your use of Skykids or RCOTS as I'm only bashing the people who are using it wrongly and no one else. 

 

 

gvman

 

I'm American and own over 100 firearms.  :lol: If I kill somebody with a firearm I'd never think of blaming the makers of the guns or the ammo. That's simply asinine. Kind of childish, too. Maybe it's good most Europeans can't have guns? They don't seem to hold themselves to any reasonable level of self-responsibility.  ;) Getting it yet?  :D This is a direct analogy to the topic at hand. Responsibility for ones' actions is the key here.

 

Contrary to what you might believe or have heard/seen on the news or movies, even here in the US where we have 100s of millions of guns most murders are committed with ball bats, knives and cars. Heck, deer kill more people (in car accidents) in the US than get killed with firearms. Plus known murderers (or anyone convicted of any violent crime) can't buy guns here, and known child abusers aren't allowed around children. Even in my job I have to pass background checks because I often work on government buildings that contain children (schools and such). 

 

I don't get it. It's obvious you wouldn't sell a gun to a known murderer, but if you did, you'd still have an amount of responsibility in what he'd do with it wouldn't you ? I mean, look at the situation (I'm so getting bored with analogies, even tho I was the one who started it...) a criminal on the run from the police comes at you and asks you to sell him a gun. You know he is a murderer but you sell it to him anyway, and he kills your neighbor. Is it only the fault of the criminal ?! You still somehow allowed the guy to have a weapon didn't you ? 

 

Even though I am European I am not that kind of archetypal snobbish shocked individual who thinks weapons should be taken from all americans because it's dangerous to have a weapon in your house. I know it's tradition and everyone has them. Just try to understand my analogy better when I make one, because I only write them since it is the only way to make my point across almost completely with my still somewhat shitty english, I never make those in my language since I find them cosmically boring. I think the original misunderstanding was that I was talking about the ammo seller, directly selling them to the guerilla while knowing they are doing massacres with it. 

 

Now we are as far as we could get from the OP's subject, I do hope now that we are not starting a new conversation about weapon laws in America gvman. 

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@redflyingmonkey,

 

Beastial rape(i know its not humans and most of you don't care about animal rights or women rights)women rape, killing children, incest mods or molesting animals is ok?

 

We should remove all mods from this site, concerning killing and raping ITS AMMO or you just that hypocritical maybe somehow the children mods can be used for wrong reasons and rest is ok?

 

ITS A GAME FOR GOD SAKE.

 

I don't personally care what people do in their own computers to be honest, even if they were doing pedo stuff with the mod after all, this is not my problem but theirs. What concerns me is what could happen to the website should it be labelled as something allowing child pornography from law standards and what would happen to the rest of the mods and the modders should everything here be labelled in the same manner by slow minded people, like Halo. If you're a modder with some ethics and see that kind of biased and untrue review, then come on Loverslab to check on it and see "Skykids" in the adult mods section, would you stay ? 

 

 

 

 

Even if all child/loli mods are removed from LL, sexlab is still available.  The child mods, any patches, and copies of sexlab will be available somewhere on the internet.  The analogy, "It's like giving ammo (sexlab) to the guerilla without selling them the guns (child mod). They just have to get the guns from somewhere else and use your ammo, and you are as guilty as the guy selling the guns" could still apply.  The bad rep to LL would be the public availability of a framework for various sex mods that can cater to different people, good and bad, perceived or otherwise.

 

But this thread is starting to deviate from the subject of the OP.  So Halofarm is using Daz poser conversions.  That would explain his departure from Nexus and why he shouldn't be fast-pitching stones in his glass house.

 

My bad, it was guns, not ammos. I'm so terribly sorry, this changes everything.

 

 

The thing is, if you start banning content based on your own moral and ethic views you open a door that you don't want to open. The very same arguments that you use to justify your opinion can also be used by people who don't like rape mods, for example. But this discussion has been done to death and beyond - if you have a problem with anything, talk to the moderators or Ashal. If you don't like the decision they make, either live with it or don't. It's your choice and no one will blame you for that.

 

 

I've been desperately repeating for the past half hour that I am only saying what I'm thinking just like you're supposed to do on a forum, in the etymological sense of the term. I am not wanting it to be banned, I would like it to be banned, and those are totally different things. You can't come at me to deter me from thinking that those mods are repulsive, since you would be doing exactly what you look like you're pissed off against. And I can't come here asking for the mod to be removed since people are liking it and doing harmless game sessions with it. I only thought I could share my own personal point of vue with people whose neuron connections work faster than on Nexus and would be less prone to enraged defensiveness. 

The only thing I want to ask the moderators to do is something about the adult section situation of the mod for which I've personally no solution, stupid as I am. Nothing else. Get down that hose and calm the heck down people, I don't even see why you have to come at me to justify your use of Skykids or RCOTS as I'm only bashing the people who are using it wrongly and no one else. 

 

 

 

You know, if you are that worried about those guerillas using the ammo and guns and suffering a backlash for their actions, would it not be best to not sell them anything?

 

I know what you saying, but Ashal can't police the net.  People will do what they want as long as they think they can get away with it.  At least here, the "ammo" is purposely made to be useless with the "guns" that are available here.

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I've been desperately repeating for the past half hour that I am only saying what I'm thinking just like you're supposed to do on a forum, in the etymological sense of the term. I am not wanting it to be banned, I would like it to be banned, and those are totally different things. You can't come at me to deter me from thinking that those mods are repulsive, since you would be doing exactly what you look like you're pissed off against. And I can't come here asking for the mod to be removed since people are liking it and doing harmless game sessions with it. I only thought I could share my own personal point of vue with people whose neuron connections work faster than on Nexus and would be less prone to enraged defensiveness. 

The only thing I want to ask the moderators to do is something about the adult section situation of the mod for which I've personally no solution, stupid as I am. Nothing else. Get down that hose and calm the heck down people, I don't even see why you have to come at me to justify your use of Skykids or RCOTS as I'm only bashing the people who are using it wrongly and no one else. 

 

 

That's okay, dude. I don't get the feeling that anyone here got aggressive or defensive, just an exchange of thoughts and opinions. I am not pissed, I am not mad. Well at least not about you, that is. Halofarm and friends are another matter.

 

About the adult section, well I already said that Skykids adds killable children. That's not a feature for the non-adult section dontcha think? Not to speak of the optional nudity.  Nudity in media gives you a Mature+ rating most of the time even if there is nothing sexual about it. Even the bodyslide stuff is in the adult section and that's only because nudity.

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New Vegas Sexout also has internal detection to prevent kiddie sex, quite comical actually when they kick in as I found by accident one day when testing a dialogue option on one of my Pregnancy mods Offspring, The kid magically pulling a Nuke Bazooka into my characters face and pulling the trigger was quite a comical shock.

 

Killable children makes sense when setting off grenades at a nearby RadRoach. Occasional nude children might be a reality, but all of them being nude just screams weird & lewd to me.

People might be doing stuff with our mods elsewhere but we can't make that an impossibility, and let them work for it, there's no need to have that stuff here.

 

This Halofarm is a loner, just a one man show with a dozen yes men lackeys, no idea of what the modding community here is like, just a bit of moondust in the internet universe....................................

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You know, if you are that worried about those guerillas using the ammo and guns and suffering a backlash for their actions, would it not be best to not sell them anything?

 

 

If we were in a dictatorship, we could. But, following the analogy, we can't deter them from selling it since the guerilla can just come with an emissary and get the ammo anyway, and do it perfectly legally too. Like here, if a pedo mod maker on a shady website came here and took the mod to tweak it to his standards, there's nothing to be done. Even more so when half of the people using it are using it for perfectly normal games, without the pedo stuff. 

 

Your analogy of "not selling them" anything would result in the mod getting banned even though it's not bad in itself, it just adds prettier kids when the vanilla ones looked like crap.  The killable stuff, well it's funny to kill Braith, I do it every time I see her. The nude part I could really do without, but I realize some people really dig the immersion, even if some people can use it for different means. 

 

 

That's okay, dude. I don't get the feeling that anyone here got aggressive or defensive, just an exchange of thoughts and opinions. I am not pissed, I am not mad. Well at least not about you, that is. Halofarm and friends are another matter.

 

About the adult section, well I already said that Skykids adds killable children. That's not a feature for the non-adult section dontcha think? Not to speak of the optional nudity.  Nudity in media gives you a Mature+ rating most of the time even if there is nothing sexual about it. Even the bodyslide stuff is in the adult section and that's only because nudity.

 

 

I sure got some angry answers from some people that are only reading short answers to my posts and not my posts themselves ... I know the situation is more difficult that it seems, but we also can't openly say Halofarm is a douchebag (he is) as long as we've got a kid mod in the adult section at the same time, it would be kind of paradoxical. 

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Speaking of reputation, what the hell is up with the recent uploaded content? Droves of weapons, non-skimpy armor, and general misc mods that have no real reason for not being on the Nexus or TESA instead?

I thought this place was made for posting specifically those mods that would get you banned on other sites, namely adult mods.

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I sure got some angry answers from some people that are only reading short answers to my posts and not my posts themselves ... I know the situation is more difficult that it seems, but we also can't openly say Halofarm is a douchebag (he is) as long as we've got a kid mod in the adult section at the same time, it would be kind of paradoxical. 

 

 

Well to be fair your first few posts on that matter sounded like "Those mods need to be taken down or else LL is doomed". It was a misunderstanding I'm sure, no hard feelings and all that.

 

But I still don't get why you're so obsessed about a children overhaul mod being posted in the adult section. Skykids gives you the ability to literally murder children. This may not seem like a big thing for the average TES / Fallout player because let's face it, the children in Bethesda's games are immersion breaking little pests, but for everyone else this is actually a problem. Bethesda won't allow links to mods that allow you to kill children on their forums and the nexus enforces any mod that allows you to kill children to be posted in the adults only section.

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I've been desperately repeating for the past half hour that I am only saying what I'm thinking just like you're supposed to do on a forum, in the etymological sense of the term. I am not wanting it to be banned, I would like it to be banned, and those are totally different things. You can't come at me to deter me from thinking that those mods are repulsive, since you would be doing exactly what you look like you're pissed off against. And I can't come here asking for the mod to be removed since people are liking it and doing harmless game sessions with it. I only thought I could share my own personal point of vue with people whose neuron connections work faster than on Nexus and would be less prone to enraged defensiveness. 

The only thing I want to ask the moderators to do is something about the adult section situation of the mod for which I've personally no solution, stupid as I am. Nothing else. Get down that hose and calm the heck down people, I don't even see why you have to come at me to justify your use of Skykids or RCOTS as I'm only bashing the people who are using it wrongly and no one else. 

 

 

That's okay, dude. I don't get the feeling that anyone here got aggressive or defensive, just an exchange of thoughts and opinions. I am not pissed, I am not mad. Well at least not about you, that is. Halofarm and friends are another matter.

 

About the adult section, well I already said that Skykids adds killable children. That's not a feature for the non-adult section dontcha think? Not to speak of the optional nudity.  Nudity in media gives you a Mature+ rating most of the time even if there is nothing sexual about it. Even the bodyslide stuff is in the adult section and that's only because nudity.

 

 

Mods have bring this on themselfs they should have known better but they don't listend(also visitors some are realy stupid asking insanely stupid questions about sexlab if it works with children wtf). And yes killable children how stupid that can be and sick(my opinion) should not be in the non adult section as for the nude in those mods also not for non adult section.

 

Unless the mod makers realise this start making some changes like not releasing nude patches and released mods with not wearing underwear.

 

CoTS R2 maker is not commingback here any more, so remove all links to download mod.

 

Its up to moderators and mod makers if they wanne keep going like this or some trouble can happen?

 

Im not judging just saying, where all adults here and should know whats right and whats wrong(world sadly dont work like that)/

 

But its a game and private gameplay i dont bloody care what others wanne do with there game and mods in there own private time.

 

Dont ever harm children in real life seems bloody simple enough.

 

What you do with DIGITAL PIXELS I DON'T BLOODY CARE.

 

My2cents NUFF SAID.

 

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Speaking of reputation, what the hell is up with the recent uploaded content? Droves of weapons, non-skimpy armor, and general misc mods that have no real reason for not being on the Nexus or TESA instead?

I thought this place was made for posting specifically those mods that would get you banned on other sites, namely adult mods.

 

Less BS here.  There are some mods uploaded both here and Nexus.  I guess some people are "hedging their bets".

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Well to be fair your first few posts on that matter sounded like "Those mods need to be taken down or else LL is doomed". It was a misunderstanding I'm sure, no hard feelings and all that.

 

But I still don't get why you're so obsessed about a children overhaul mod being posted in the adult section. Skykids gives you the ability to literally murder children. This may not seem like a big thing for the average TES / Fallout player because let's face it, the children in Bethesda's games are immersion breaking little pests, but for everyone else this is actually a problem. Bethesda won't allow links to mods that allow you to kill children on their forums and the nexus enforces any mod that allows you to kill children to be posted in the adults only section.

 

 

Well it's not Nexus here, we all are adults and the killable children are just an immersive aspect of a game that are not implemented in the vanilla because of real world systematical polemics when a kid is harmed in a game. When you want a game to be wholly immersive and have the means to almost do it with all the mods there are out there, seeing a kid get killed is only adding to the drama you want to have while playing. I mean honestly, looking at a kid get showered by a pillar of flame coming out of a dragon's mouth and running around unscathed after that is pretty retarded when you think about it. I personally like to think I'm actually saving my kid when a giant attacks my Hearthfire house and not only saving his pants from getting dirty when he goes kneeling after getting hammered by something strong enough to send you in the stratosphere. Hence, putting it in the non adult section would be more logical, if there was only that. 

 

But, they also have a nudity mod for Skykids if I understood everything.

 

That's what I have a problem about actually, I know it's just 3d and I shouldn't be bothered about it, but I still find it kinda unsettling. I've got rape mods on my game, yeah, but it isn't disturbing me since the animations themselves are not really rape related, I mean most of the animations don't make your character cry while cutting his wrists in the corner of his bathroom after 3 am when he's sure his uncle is sleeping since he would've gotten a hard on hearing him cry and raped him once more for the lols, no. It's just animated sex and even the sounds are more about pleasure than fear and distress, so it just becomes 3d porn and nothing else. But a naked kid is different, it's a naked kid in whatever context you put it in, and you know there isn't really any chance to see a naked kid in Skyrim "immersively speaking". I'm really not an immersive fanatic too, but on this particular point allow me to be one, because if not for the immersion there isn't any other reason than pedo ones for wanting a kid to be naked. Try to think about it dude, I've looked for possible explanation for a kid being naked, and I've found none, maybe someone will prove me wrong.

 

So I don't know how the moderators are going to go about it but I hope they're thinking about a solution, can't let that rot in the adult section while saying Halo is completely wrong in his article, and that's why I'm "so obsessed about a children overhaul mod in the adult section"

 

 

PS : My bad about the first posts, I should've precised I only would like the nude kid patch to be gone so the mod could me moved to the non adult section, I have no problem against a mod making better kids or playing as one since the vanilla ones are ugly as hell, and I would also find it cool to play a kid Dragonborn (and not in a sex mod installation). I only have issues with the kids being naked or with some users posting skimpy dressed loli screenshots everywhere, that make me hate the mod itself even though it has done nothing wrong (except for the goddam nude kid part). 

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