Simple Slavery

[jfraser]

Hi,

 

is there a need to go to 5.2? I'm running 5.11 and as far as I understand it includes code for both versions (regular and dfw).

I'm using DFW so I was wondering if there could be any negative impact if I stay at 5.11? DOn't want to start a new game if not necessary^^

you should be fine unless you want Raven Beak Prison as an outcome, in which case it might not connect.

[volanthh]

So I'm experiencing a weird issue, hopefully not the first person to have this problem.

 

When Simple Slavery passes me to SD+, I appear in Riften with the owner (as I would expect) but what happens after that is the interesting part. The guards (and everyone else apparently) immediately start attacking the owner. Owner eventually dies, aggro goes to me and as soon as I'm hit, it CTDs. This has happened every time I've been passed to SD+.

[LesboIsBesto]

What we need in skyrim is some kind of fanatical lesbo colony of slave merchants and owners. Lets face it most of us are dudes and we want to see naked women if we pretended to be women online like most people do these days we would be the most annoying lesbians women ever met. I don't think there is a mod for skyrim where it is almost all women living somewhere but it would nice:-)

Yes thank god im not the only one who wants this! I use the sex mods for lesbian stuff only on here & Fallout 4 but I can't use this mod because Im on SE & even if i wasn't, there's no lesbian friendly stuff in here or SD as far as I know. Even Fallout 4 has a mod to turn all unnamed human enemies into women so i can let my character get raped by a gang of lesbian raiders but there's no slavery mod so its not complete yet. I hope someone makes a lesbian slavery mod like this or something close at least.

[Zor2k13]

Damn! You read that far back in a thread to quote something? you must be almost as bored as I am lol.

[jfraser]

So I'm experiencing a weird issue, hopefully not the first person to have this problem.

 

When Simple Slavery passes me to SD+, I appear in Riften with the owner (as I would expect) but what happens after that is the interesting part. The guards (and everyone else apparently) immediately start attacking the owner. Owner eventually dies, aggro goes to me and as soon as I'm hit, it CTDs. This has happened every time I've been passed to SD+.

which owner is it? If you can tell.

 

What we need in skyrim is some kind of fanatical lesbo colony of slave merchants and owners. Lets face it most of us are dudes and we want to see naked women if we pretended to be women online like most people do these days we would be the most annoying lesbians women ever met. I don't think there is a mod for skyrim where it is almost all women living somewhere but it would nice:-)

Yes thank god im not the only one who wants this! I use the sex mods for lesbian stuff only on here & Fallout 4 but I can't use this mod because Im on SE & even if i wasn't, there's no lesbian friendly stuff in here or SD as far as I know. Even Fallout 4 has a mod to turn all unnamed human enemies into women so i can let my character get raped by a gang of lesbian raiders but there's no slavery mod so its not complete yet. I hope someone makes a lesbian slavery mod like this or something close at least.

half of the potential SD owners in SS are women. At some point I plan to make separate SD outcomes to differentiate between master genders.

 

Beyond that, though, lesbianism does nothing for me as a fetish or fantasy, so someone else will have to make your dream mod.

 

A colony of women wouldn't be hard to make, btw, so you might look into making it yourself.

 

Also, there are mods out there that are filled with often naked women. Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite, for instance. You could always go there and get yourself enslaved manually via SD or Maria Eden or Submissive Lola.

[Zor2k13]

Well to clarify it is not simple lesbo stuff I am thinking about but more in line with the works of sardax specifically the shanghai bizarre stuff where hot asian doms do all kinds of kinky stuff to guys but we don't have a complete set of bondage outfits for guys and all the kinky outfits are geared towards female characters. Here is an example of what I'm talking about https://www.pinterest.com/pin/543106036299627141

 

Would be great to have that in skyrim somehow or close to it and the female npcs would be the faction in control of the slave trade in skyrim so anything to do with slaves would involve them. They would have an office in each major hold and some agents in minor holds all supported by the empire.

[jfraser]

Well to clarify it is not simple lesbo stuff I am thinking about but more in line with the works of sardax specifically the shanghai bizarre stuff where hot asian doms do all kinds of kinky stuff to guys but we don't have a complete set of bondage outfits for guys and all the kinky outfits are geared towards female characters. Here is an example of what I'm talking about https://www.pinterest.com/pin/543106036299627141

 

Would be great to have that in skyrim somehow or close to it and the female npcs would be the faction in control of the slave trade in skyrim so anything to do with slaves would involve them. They would have an office in each major hold and some agents in minor holds all supported by the empire.

that is something very different!

 

Still not something I would have any motivation to build, though.

[Zor2k13]

What has been seen cannot be unseen hehe:-)

 

There is a lot of stuff from sardax for shanghai bizzare but not as much as his other stuff which is sad. Some pay sites have attempted to act out his ideas with their porn models and it all turned out bad. I think making it in a game with porn mods like skyrim would pan out much better but it would take a lot of work.

[LesboIsBesto]

 

So I'm experiencing a weird issue, hopefully not the first person to have this problem.

 

When Simple Slavery passes me to SD+, I appear in Riften with the owner (as I would expect) but what happens after that is the interesting part. The guards (and everyone else apparently) immediately start attacking the owner. Owner eventually dies, aggro goes to me and as soon as I'm hit, it CTDs. This has happened every time I've been passed to SD+.

which owner is it? If you can tell.

 

What we need in skyrim is some kind of fanatical lesbo colony of slave merchants and owners. Lets face it most of us are dudes and we want to see naked women if we pretended to be women online like most people do these days we would be the most annoying lesbians women ever met. I don't think there is a mod for skyrim where it is almost all women living somewhere but it would nice:-)

Yes thank god im not the only one who wants this! I use the sex mods for lesbian stuff only on here & Fallout 4 but I can't use this mod because Im on SE & even if i wasn't, there's no lesbian friendly stuff in here or SD as far as I know. Even Fallout 4 has a mod to turn all unnamed human enemies into women so i can let my character get raped by a gang of lesbian raiders but there's no slavery mod so its not complete yet. I hope someone makes a lesbian slavery mod like this or something close at least.

half of the potential SD owners in SS are women. At some point I plan to make separate SD outcomes to differentiate between master genders.

 

Beyond that, though, lesbianism does nothing for me as a fetish or fantasy, so someone else will have to make your dream mod.

 

A colony of women wouldn't be hard to make, btw, so you might look into making it yourself.

 

Also, there are mods out there that are filled with often naked women. Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite, for instance. You could always go there and get yourself enslaved manually via SD or Maria Eden or Submissive Lola.

 

Ah, well like i said, i wasn't entirely aware of any lesbian friendly stuff here or SD. Guess the preview pics here aren't a 100% indicator of everything. Also I've never even heard of the mods u mentioned there, although i merely typed "lesbian" in the search bar assuming that was all i needed to do. Thanks for pointing all of this out tho!

[jfraser]

 

 

So I'm experiencing a weird issue, hopefully not the first person to have this problem.

 

When Simple Slavery passes me to SD+, I appear in Riften with the owner (as I would expect) but what happens after that is the interesting part. The guards (and everyone else apparently) immediately start attacking the owner. Owner eventually dies, aggro goes to me and as soon as I'm hit, it CTDs. This has happened every time I've been passed to SD+.

which owner is it? If you can tell.

 

What we need in skyrim is some kind of fanatical lesbo colony of slave merchants and owners. Lets face it most of us are dudes and we want to see naked women if we pretended to be women online like most people do these days we would be the most annoying lesbians women ever met. I don't think there is a mod for skyrim where it is almost all women living somewhere but it would nice:-)

Yes thank god im not the only one who wants this! I use the sex mods for lesbian stuff only on here & Fallout 4 but I can't use this mod because Im on SE & even if i wasn't, there's no lesbian friendly stuff in here or SD as far as I know. Even Fallout 4 has a mod to turn all unnamed human enemies into women so i can let my character get raped by a gang of lesbian raiders but there's no slavery mod so its not complete yet. I hope someone makes a lesbian slavery mod like this or something close at least.

half of the potential SD owners in SS are women. At some point I plan to make separate SD outcomes to differentiate between master genders.

 

Beyond that, though, lesbianism does nothing for me as a fetish or fantasy, so someone else will have to make your dream mod.

 

A colony of women wouldn't be hard to make, btw, so you might look into making it yourself.

 

Also, there are mods out there that are filled with often naked women. Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite, for instance. You could always go there and get yourself enslaved manually via SD or Maria Eden or Submissive Lola.

Ah, well like i said, i wasn't entirely aware of any lesbian friendly stuff here or SD. Guess the preview pics here aren't a 100% indicator of everything. Also I've never even heard of the mods u mentioned there, although i merely typed "lesbian" in the search bar assuming that was all i needed to do. Thanks for pointing all of this out tho!

you can always set SD to female owners only, not to mention make sanguine female.

[LesboIsBesto]

 

 

 

So I'm experiencing a weird issue, hopefully not the first person to have this problem.

 

When Simple Slavery passes me to SD+, I appear in Riften with the owner (as I would expect) but what happens after that is the interesting part. The guards (and everyone else apparently) immediately start attacking the owner. Owner eventually dies, aggro goes to me and as soon as I'm hit, it CTDs. This has happened every time I've been passed to SD+.

which owner is it? If you can tell.

 

What we need in skyrim is some kind of fanatical lesbo colony of slave merchants and owners. Lets face it most of us are dudes and we want to see naked women if we pretended to be women online like most people do these days we would be the most annoying lesbians women ever met. I don't think there is a mod for skyrim where it is almost all women living somewhere but it would nice:-)

Yes thank god im not the only one who wants this! I use the sex mods for lesbian stuff only on here & Fallout 4 but I can't use this mod because Im on SE & even if i wasn't, there's no lesbian friendly stuff in here or SD as far as I know. Even Fallout 4 has a mod to turn all unnamed human enemies into women so i can let my character get raped by a gang of lesbian raiders but there's no slavery mod so its not complete yet. I hope someone makes a lesbian slavery mod like this or something close at least.

half of the potential SD owners in SS are women. At some point I plan to make separate SD outcomes to differentiate between master genders.

 

Beyond that, though, lesbianism does nothing for me as a fetish or fantasy, so someone else will have to make your dream mod.

 

A colony of women wouldn't be hard to make, btw, so you might look into making it yourself.

 

Also, there are mods out there that are filled with often naked women. Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite, for instance. You could always go there and get yourself enslaved manually via SD or Maria Eden or Submissive Lola.

Ah, well like i said, i wasn't entirely aware of any lesbian friendly stuff here or SD. Guess the preview pics here aren't a 100% indicator of everything. Also I've never even heard of the mods u mentioned there, although i merely typed "lesbian" in the search bar assuming that was all i needed to do. Thanks for pointing all of this out tho!

you can always set SD to female owners only, not to mention make sanguine female.

 

Seriously? I never saw that when i read through either of the mods postings. If that's the case, I'm definitely downloading them once I find a place to buy the Legendary Edition cheap since Steam removed it. I appreciate you telling me all of this!

[LesboIsBesto]

 

 

 

half of the potential SD owners in SS are women. At some point I plan to make separate SD outcomes to differentiate between master genders.

 

Beyond that, though, lesbianism does nothing for me as a fetish or fantasy, so someone else will have to make your dream mod.

 

A colony of women wouldn't be hard to make, btw, so you might look into making it yourself.

 

Also, there are mods out there that are filled with often naked women. Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite, for instance. You could always go there and get yourself enslaved manually via SD or Maria Eden or Submissive Lola.

Ah, well like i said, i wasn't entirely aware of any lesbian friendly stuff here or SD. Guess the preview pics here aren't a 100% indicator of everything. Also I've never even heard of the mods u mentioned there, although i merely typed "lesbian" in the search bar assuming that was all i needed to do. Thanks for pointing all of this out tho!

you can always set SD to female owners only, not to mention make sanguine female.

 

Forgot to ask & its not mentioned in the mod page itself, but how exactly do you set Sanguine female? Also how do i find these potential women owners you mentioned? Finally got 32bit Skyrim but am stuck on setting up the INI files & shit before i download anything.

[jfraser]

 

 

 

 

half of the potential SD owners in SS are women. At some point I plan to make separate SD outcomes to differentiate between master genders.

 

Beyond that, though, lesbianism does nothing for me as a fetish or fantasy, so someone else will have to make your dream mod.

 

A colony of women wouldn't be hard to make, btw, so you might look into making it yourself.

 

Also, there are mods out there that are filled with often naked women. Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite, for instance. You could always go there and get yourself enslaved manually via SD or Maria Eden or Submissive Lola.

Ah, well like i said, i wasn't entirely aware of any lesbian friendly stuff here or SD. Guess the preview pics here aren't a 100% indicator of everything. Also I've never even heard of the mods u mentioned there, although i merely typed "lesbian" in the search bar assuming that was all i needed to do. Thanks for pointing all of this out tho!

you can always set SD to female owners only, not to mention make sanguine female.

 

Forgot to ask & its not mentioned in the mod page itself, but how exactly do you set Sanguine female? Also how do i find these potential women owners you mentioned? Finally got 32bit Skyrim but am stuck on setting up the INI files & shit before i download anything.

 

 

 

[Guest]

Getting enslaved with this mod is boring and not immersive. Every time you end up with a random owner, who has no ties to the game world at all, in Riften(okay, why not) and he won't go anywhere from that point. It would be more interesting if it was a character that already exists in the game, or at least give the owner a house and a schedule. Make him go out of the city now and then. It's not likely that he would take advantage of a slave in the middle of the market. Also, I don't see how are we supposed to buy our freedom with items without becoming criminals in the process, when he stays in the city all the time. Much less how we would get him killed.

[Cock Sucker]

 

Seriously? I never saw that when i read through either of the mods postings. If that's the case, I'm definitely downloading them once I find a place to buy the Legendary Edition cheap since Steam removed it. I appreciate you telling me all of this!

 

 

 

O_O your right I didn't believe you steam removed oldrim -.-

 

as for cheap ebay keys are £10 -.-

[jfraser]

Getting enslaved with this mod is boring and not immersive. Every time you end up with a random owner, who has no ties to the game world at all, in Riften(okay, why not) and he won't go anywhere from that point. It would be more interesting if it was a character that already exists in the game, or at least give the owner a house and a schedule. Make him go out of the city now and then. It's not likely that he would take advantage of a slave in the middle of the market. Also, I don't see how are we supposed to buy our freedom with items without becoming criminals in the process, when he stays in the city all the time. Much less how we would get him killed.

I assume you're talking about the Sanguine's Debauchery owner. This mod doesn't have any slavery itself - it just connects to others. The SD owners are designed to stay in one place for a day and then travel to other places. If that doesn't happen, you'll need to ask for help in the SD thread. Or try leaving the city yourself - your owner will teleport to you (and punish you) and that sometimes kick starts the travel package.

[LesboIsBesto]

 

I assume you're talking about the Sanguine's Debauchery owner. This mod doesn't have any slavery itself - it just connects to others. The SD owners are designed to stay in one place for a day and then travel to other places. If that doesn't happen, you'll need to ask for help in the SD thread. Or try leaving the city yourself - your owner will teleport to you (and punish you) and that sometimes kick starts the travel package.

 

SD doesn't have Slavery itself? I thought Sanguine was like some master owner or something like that? That was one of the reasons why i didn't consider downloading it until you pointed out he can be made female. I still haven't downloaded it yet but I'm close to downloading that, Maria Eden, & SS today after i fix a problem with SexLab Defeat. So before I download SD, is there anything else I should know about SD owners or what mods to download before SD besides the required one's or the optional one's like SlaveTats on its page cuz I have them already. Was hoping female Sanguine to be my characters owner after we last talked.

[Guest]

 

 

I assume you're talking about the Sanguine's Debauchery owner. This mod doesn't have any slavery itself - it just connects to others. The SD owners are designed to stay in one place for a day and then travel to other places. If that doesn't happen, you'll need to ask for help in the SD thread. Or try leaving the city yourself - your owner will teleport to you (and punish you) and that sometimes kick starts the travel package.

 

SD doesn't have Slavery itself? I thought Sanguine was like some master owner or something like that? That was one of the reasons why i didn't consider downloading it until you pointed out he can be made female. I still haven't downloaded it yet but I'm close to downloading that, Maria Eden, & SS today after i fix a problem with SexLab Defeat. So before I download SD, is there anything else I should know about SD owners or what mods to download before SD besides the required one's or the optional one's like SlaveTats on its page cuz I have them already. Was hoping female Sanguine to be my characters owner after we last talked.

 

 

The owner in SD+ can be any npc in the game world. For example, if you have defeat, the owner can become a bandit or even a creatures you were defeated by. The mod itself doesn't come with any finished owners as far as i know, which is why I thought the owner you get after the auction was from SS itself. Sanguine can be set to the gender of your choice via the MCM menu.

 

[LesboIsBesto]

 

 

 

I assume you're talking about the Sanguine's Debauchery owner. This mod doesn't have any slavery itself - it just connects to others. The SD owners are designed to stay in one place for a day and then travel to other places. If that doesn't happen, you'll need to ask for help in the SD thread. Or try leaving the city yourself - your owner will teleport to you (and punish you) and that sometimes kick starts the travel package.

 

SD doesn't have Slavery itself? I thought Sanguine was like some master owner or something like that? That was one of the reasons why i didn't consider downloading it until you pointed out he can be made female. I still haven't downloaded it yet but I'm close to downloading that, Maria Eden, & SS today after i fix a problem with SexLab Defeat. So before I download SD, is there anything else I should know about SD owners or what mods to download before SD besides the required one's or the optional one's like SlaveTats on its page cuz I have them already. Was hoping female Sanguine to be my characters owner after we last talked.

 

 

The owner in SD+ can be any npc in the game world. For example, if you have defeat, the owner can become a bandit or even a creatures you were defeated by. The mod itself doesn't come with any finished owners as far as i know, which is why I thought the owner you get after the auction was from SS itself. Sanguine can be set to the gender of your choice via the MCM menu.

OOOOOHHHHH, that sounds cool too actually. When I first saw this mod months back, I assumed Sanguine was like some head slaver who'd control you at first & sometimes send you off to other places to be a slave, judging by the attached pictures alone. Now that I have OG Skyrim, I've been trying to find out if SD is lesbian friendly, which jfraser has previously assured me it is. So if this doesn't add any unique people besides Sanguine or add new places for slavery alone, do you know of other good slavery mods that do? I'm also planning on getting Maria Eden but I'm still new to slavery & sex mods using SexLab so I'm not sure what other good, flushed out ones are here. (I'm still struggling with Defeat & Devious Devices outfits rip)

[jfraser]

 

 

 

 

I assume you're talking about the Sanguine's Debauchery owner. This mod doesn't have any slavery itself - it just connects to others. The SD owners are designed to stay in one place for a day and then travel to other places. If that doesn't happen, you'll need to ask for help in the SD thread. Or try leaving the city yourself - your owner will teleport to you (and punish you) and that sometimes kick starts the travel package.

 

SD doesn't have Slavery itself? I thought Sanguine was like some master owner or something like that? That was one of the reasons why i didn't consider downloading it until you pointed out he can be made female. I still haven't downloaded it yet but I'm close to downloading that, Maria Eden, & SS today after i fix a problem with SexLab Defeat. So before I download SD, is there anything else I should know about SD owners or what mods to download before SD besides the required one's or the optional one's like SlaveTats on its page cuz I have them already. Was hoping female Sanguine to be my characters owner after we last talked.

 

 

The owner in SD+ can be any npc in the game world. For example, if you have defeat, the owner can become a bandit or even a creatures you were defeated by. The mod itself doesn't come with any finished owners as far as i know, which is why I thought the owner you get after the auction was from SS itself. Sanguine can be set to the gender of your choice via the MCM menu.

OOOOOHHHHH, that sounds cool too actually. When I first saw this mod months back, I assumed Sanguine was like some head slaver who'd control you at first & sometimes send you off to other places to be a slave, judging by the attached pictures alone. Now that I have OG Skyrim, I've been trying to find out if SD is lesbian friendly, which jfraser has previously assured me it is. So if this doesn't add any unique people besides Sanguine or add new places for slavery alone, do you know of other good slavery mods that do? I'm also planning on getting Maria Eden but I'm still new to slavery & sex mods using SexLab so I'm not sure what other good, flushed out ones are here. (I'm still struggling with Defeat & Devious Devices outfits rip)

 

SS does provide people to become masters via SD, but it's the SD mechanics that run the actual slavery. Sanguine is not the central slaver, he's just a daedra who likes to play with people. with SD, you will be enslaved by whoever defeats you (if you're using Death Alternative and have SD as the outcome) but you can set it so only females will actually claim you as their slaves.

 

It's a little more iffy if you're trying to get a female owner via SS because it will choose randomly between six owners, only half of which are female.

[LesboIsBesto]

 

OOOOOHHHHH, that sounds cool too actually. When I first saw this mod months back, I assumed Sanguine was like some head slaver who'd control you at first & sometimes send you off to other places to be a slave, judging by the attached pictures alone. Now that I have OG Skyrim, I've been trying to find out if SD is lesbian friendly, which jfraser has previously assured me it is. So if this doesn't add any unique people besides Sanguine or add new places for slavery alone, do you know of other good slavery mods that do? I'm also planning on getting Maria Eden but I'm still new to slavery & sex mods using SexLab so I'm not sure what other good, flushed out ones are here. (I'm still struggling with Defeat & Devious Devices outfits rip) 

SS does provide people to become masters via SD, but it's the SD mechanics that run the actual slavery. Sanguine is not the central slaver, he's just a daedra who likes to play with people. with SD, you will be enslaved by whoever defeats you (if you're using Death Alternative and have SD as the outcome) but you can set it so only females will actually claim you as their slaves.

 

It's a little more iffy if you're trying to get a female owner via SS because it will choose randomly between six owners, only half of which are female.

 

Ah, ok yours & nightwolfs comments clears up much for me thank you. One more thing though, I have SexLab Defeat not Death Alternative & the page for Defeat says they can conflict with each other if not set properly. So is DA required to make whoever defeats me a master? Defeat has a SS outcome but I didn't see anything for SD. Also if I have either or both of these, is SexLab Submit redundant or does that conflict with either?

[jfraser]

 

 

OOOOOHHHHH, that sounds cool too actually. When I first saw this mod months back, I assumed Sanguine was like some head slaver who'd control you at first & sometimes send you off to other places to be a slave, judging by the attached pictures alone. Now that I have OG Skyrim, I've been trying to find out if SD is lesbian friendly, which jfraser has previously assured me it is. So if this doesn't add any unique people besides Sanguine or add new places for slavery alone, do you know of other good slavery mods that do? I'm also planning on getting Maria Eden but I'm still new to slavery & sex mods using SexLab so I'm not sure what other good, flushed out ones are here. (I'm still struggling with Defeat & Devious Devices outfits rip) 

SS does provide people to become masters via SD, but it's the SD mechanics that run the actual slavery. Sanguine is not the central slaver, he's just a daedra who likes to play with people. with SD, you will be enslaved by whoever defeats you (if you're using Death Alternative and have SD as the outcome) but you can set it so only females will actually claim you as their slaves.

 

It's a little more iffy if you're trying to get a female owner via SS because it will choose randomly between six owners, only half of which are female.

 

Ah, ok yours & nightwolfs comments clears up much for me thank you. One more thing though, I have SexLab Defeat not Death Alternative & the page for Defeat says they can conflict with each other if not set properly. So is DA required to make whoever defeats me a master? Defeat has a SS outcome but I didn't see anything for SD. Also if I have either or both of these, is SexLab Submit redundant or does that conflict with either?

 

defeat and submit do the same thing, although some people use both - one for defeating the bad guys, the other for being defeated. you can use defeat with da - defeat will automatically allow da to take over the reins at blackout (as long as you have the da slider set to 100% in defeat's mcm).

 

defeat does not have SD as a direct outcome. you don't have to have da to get to SD, but you do need SS or Deviously Enslaved if you don't use DA. 

[volanthh]

 

So I'm experiencing a weird issue, hopefully not the first person to have this problem.

 

When Simple Slavery passes me to SD+, I appear in Riften with the owner (as I would expect) but what happens after that is the interesting part. The guards (and everyone else apparently) immediately start attacking the owner. Owner eventually dies, aggro goes to me and as soon as I'm hit, it CTDs. This has happened every time I've been passed to SD+.

which owner is it? If you can tell.

 

The main one I notice it happening with is Ali Sloat. It happens every time with her. I may have had the issue with one or two other owners but I haven't ran into them again so I can't get their names. Not only does she immediately get beat up by the guards in Riften, the guards immediately start attacking the player afterwards.

[jfraser]

 

 

So I'm experiencing a weird issue, hopefully not the first person to have this problem.

 

When Simple Slavery passes me to SD+, I appear in Riften with the owner (as I would expect) but what happens after that is the interesting part. The guards (and everyone else apparently) immediately start attacking the owner. Owner eventually dies, aggro goes to me and as soon as I'm hit, it CTDs. This has happened every time I've been passed to SD+.

which owner is it? If you can tell.

The main one I notice it happening with is Ali Sloat. It happens every time with her. I may have had the issue with one or two other owners but I haven't ran into them again so I can't get their names. Not only does she immediately get beat up by the guards in Riften, the guards immediately start attacking the player afterwards.

I must have her in the wrong faction. I'll check that, thanks. I don't know if there's anything you can do in the meantime, except maybe do an immediate COC to somewhere safe and hope she follows.

[LesboIsBesto]

 

defeat and submit do the same thing, although some people use both - one for defeating the bad guys, the other for being defeated. you can use defeat with da - defeat will automatically allow da to take over the reins at blackout (as long as you have the da slider set to 100% in defeat's mcm).

 

defeat does not have SD as a direct outcome. you don't have to have da to get to SD, but you do need SS or Deviously Enslaved if you don't use DA. 

 

Ok so now I have installed SS, SD+, & Maria Eden but I have some things I noticed & wanted to point out, some questions I need help with (my bad if they're dumb ones) & a major problem I have with SS. Please answer back whenever you have time to & in the meantime, I hope I'll luck out & solve some of these myself

 

1. I started with Maria Eden & it worked fine until after the first night in an inn where SD+ triggered on the same master. Looked fine at first, but then some random list from SexLab Tools came up with random options for me to do like kissing my masters feet & etc. After selecting an option, I couldn't perform said action & I couldn't activate her for Maria Eden or SD+ dialogue anymore. I reloaded a save & tried a different option but she locked up again & I couldn't do anything while she kept using dialogue that she was waiting for me to start & eventually she punished me for not using the option I chose even though I couldn't do it. So basically what I learned, they're not to be used in tandem. From now on if I use ME, I disable SD+ chances of slavery settings.

 

2. I'm not sure whether SD+ or ME caused this, but even though in MCM in SexLab Framework where I have it set for Females to use Strapons & in SD+ where I set the gender restriction to same only (female), I still got forced into a threesome animation with a guy. Maybe it was ME because it doesn't seem to have any gender or sexual preference options.

 

3. During Maria Eden, I wasn't able to activate any male role animations or aggressive animations when my master forced me into sex with female NPCs, even though in SexLab Framework, I have Females use Strapons on & female aggressors triggered by Defeat use all the above animations. So is Maria Eden not good for lesbian strapon animations because I don't recall my master being able to use some of those animations either? (at least they used threesome animations unlike Defeat but it still involved a man which is bad for me)

 

4. I have a general question about both ME & SD+, what exactly do I do once enslaved? I triggered SD+ alone in one save & my master went off in her own direction into the woods so I guess I have to follow her or can I travel where ever I want to still? Is the point of SD+ just to follow the master around, whore myself off to everyone or do other things she likes to buy my freedom? If I don't want to be freed, can I just follow whatever she wants to do while doing some of my own stuff also? (nothing like major quests or anything, just exploring & junk).

 

5. How do I meet Sanguine in SD+? In the FAQ, it said I can either have his part start by his daedric quest of after first enslavement. Does this mean I have to free myself from my first master in order to meet him? I think I saw an option for sleeping to trigger him but I could't activate beds at the time so I don't know how that works.

 

6. As for Maria Eden, when I had it triggered alone before SD+ did on its own, I was able to travel at my own will with her because she functioned like a normal follower, just with a master personality & options. So is the objective the same as with SD+? i just go around Skyrim, pleasing the master & the only difference is there's no Sanguine stuff involved & Maria Eden is consensual slavery?

 

7. Onto my big problem with SS: I have no idea how to trigger it. At least specifically the auction event. I used Defeat to start SS so I could see how it transitions to SD+ but after Defeat finished with my aggressors, nothing happened! My character just got up & was able to walk around normally again. I even had the SS event setting chance at 100% and set the other events to 0% but it didn't happen. How can I fix this because while I was able to start ME & SD+ without SS, I still want to experience SS after all the work i had to do to make sure all the other mods I downloaded before & their requirements worked. Is there another way to trigger SS like a location to go to or a button to press before or during Defeat or SL Kidnapped?

 

TLDR: I'm a noob with SexLab & this is my first time with slavery mods so if you or anyone else can help me, I'd be very thankful for it. I can provide screenshots of my settings in MCM or just descriptions of them, my mod load order, whatever of these that'll help find solutions. Even with these problems I'm experiencing, the mods work & look great when they're doing what they're supposed to do. And yet again, I'm sorry for what are possibly just dumb questions or rookie mistakes all packed in a wall of text, I just don't know where else to get help for this.