Devious Followers 2.03 (2025)

[noctred]

Ran into a strange bug with the latest update.

 

The 'Can we agree a new deal please?' dialog topic is appearing on literally every single NPC. It's even appearing on the Statue of Mara in the Alternate Start cell, which is particularly bizarre. This is on a fresh game.

 

Anybody else experiencing this on 2.03?

[swords and sandals]

13 hours ago, noctred said:

Ran into a strange bug with the latest update.

 

The 'Can we agree a new deal please?' dialog topic is appearing on literally every single NPC. It's even appearing on the Statue of Mara in the Alternate Start cell, which is particularly bizarre. This is on a fresh game.

 

Anybody else experiencing this on 2.03?

 

Yes, I've got that too, including with the Mara statue. I haven't clicked on it with anyone but my follower, and it doesn't seem to be causing any harm as far as I can tell. When I do click on it with followers, I'm told I need to wear arm and leg cuffs, but nothing actually seems to happen.

 

Loving the mod otherwise. Really nice to see it making a comeback!

Edited December 2, 2025 by swords and sandals

[Aldid]

Is anyone else having trouble with the alt start feature? I've set the chance to ask for money to 100% and wandered around for multiple in-game hours, and I've not had any forcegreets

[Aldid]

Is anyone else having trouble with the alt start feature? I've set the chance to ask for money to 100% and wandered around for multiple in-game hours, and I've not had any forcegreets

 

Edit: Nevermind, one happened now. Although I'm still experiencing some trouble triggering events, for some reason

Edited December 3, 2025 by Aldid

[thor3222]

On 12/1/2025 at 10:47 AM, noctred said:

Ran into a strange bug with the latest update.

 

The 'Can we agree a new deal please?' dialog topic is appearing on literally every single NPC. It's even appearing on the Statue of Mara in the Alternate Start cell, which is particularly bizarre. This is on a fresh game.

 

Anybody else experiencing this on 2.03?

 

im seeing the same thing - I looked in creation kit it looks like there is a _DFlowRuleController Quest with just that single dialogue option that isn't gated well. it also ONLY does the cuffs so I am not sure what the purpose of it is. I'm guessing its either for something in progress or a mistake, but should be easy to resolve. 

For my cases I just added a condition to say it if my player character is male. since its not, it doesn't show up. That way if the quest in general is important it will still work.

[Anywww1]

Regardless of how much debt I have, making a single deal with my follower will reset the debt to zero. This bug existed in version 2.14.5 and persists in 2.2 (I didn't update to 2.03, so I'm unsure about that version).

[Krotention]

Seem to have found a bug, when using NFF i cant set a follower to be non-devious, and they always become devious without my input. Even when i use the debug tool to set all followers to be non-devious, after a while they just become devious by themselves.

[Hex Bolt]

I've updated the Devious Followers link on the description page for Simple Slavery++ to point here.  All versions of Devious Followers should work okay as auction outcomes, of course, but players who've been away from Skyrim for a while might not be aware that Lozeak has taken up the standard again.

[whotheknow]

I dont get what the levels mean on the deals, is that the player level?

 

[CaptainJ03]

47 minutes ago, whotheknow said:

I dont get what the levels mean on the deals, is that the player level?

No, that's along the lines of easy, difficult and mean.

[Lozeak]

On 12/3/2025 at 3:22 AM, Anywww1 said:

Regardless of how much debt I have, making a single deal with my follower will reset the debt to zero. This bug existed in version 2.14.5 and persists in 2.2 (I didn't update to 2.03, so I'm unsure about that version).

 

I couldn't replicate it when testing. You can adjust how much debt it removes in the setting if you set it to remove a lot of debt it'll always go to 0.  

 

On 12/2/2025 at 8:15 PM, thor3222 said:

im seeing the same thing - I looked in creation kit it looks like there is a _DFlowRuleController Quest

 

Thank you for this. Yea it's a line of dialogue that shouldn't exist. 

[Anywww1]

7 hours ago, Lozeak said:

I couldn't replicate it when testing. You can adjust how much debt it removes in the setting if you set it to remove a lot of debt it'll always go to 0.  

This bug seems to occur when I modify the debt offset amount of a deal while already having a Devious follower. After the bug arises, using the debug function to remove the follower and reset the system can resolve it.
I am currently playing in Hardcore mode, which appears to prevent the bug.

[Fraying9981]

how does this renewed version work with sanguine debauchery?

in particular the slavery part?

 

is it safe to say it can replace most of SD?

 

and are both compatible btw?

[Racoonity, Serah]

Hi there, just wanted to report that after updating (and starting a new game) the line 'Can we agree a new deal please?' is still appearing for me.

[Lozeak]

On 12/11/2025 at 3:55 PM, Racoonity, Serah said:

Hi there, just wanted to report that after updating (and starting a new game) the line 'Can we agree a new deal please?' is still appearing for me.

 

Could be because I never made the SEQ file or packed it wrong. I've done that now and hopefully it's fixed. 

[ruggsy9]

HUGELY tested... But this is L.L. it could be HUGLY tested....

Edited December 13, 2025 by ruggsy9

[Racoonity, Serah]

9 hours ago, Lozeak said:

 

Could be because I never made the SEQ file or packed it wrong. I've done that now and hopefully it's fixed. 

 

I'm afraid I still have it (New Game again). Don't know if it's just me, but I checked my Bashed Patch and Synthesis and they don't seem to be affecting anything from DF.

I did see 2 different 'Can we agree a new deal please?' lines in the Dialogue Topics of DF esp with xEdit, but I don't know if that's intended.
_DflowDealControllerYes
_DFlowRCOffer

 

[slvsaris]

Has anyone tried this updated version on LE?

[angrykiwi]

On 12/13/2025 at 5:06 AM, Lozeak said:

 

Could be because I never made the SEQ file or packed it wrong. I've done that now and hopefully it's fixed. 

Didn't fix it for me, do i need a clean save?

[zevazdeoz]

I came to post the same thing as everyone else, I installed the latest version and random NPCs have the message 'Can we agree to a new deal please?' (I didn't update from previous versions, it was a fresh install),

[shanyu]

16 hours ago, zevazdeoz said:

I came to post the same thing as everyone else, I installed the latest version and random NPCs have the message 'Can we agree to a new deal please?' (I didn't update from previous versions, it was a fresh install),

same.   Did a fresh install specifically to see if it was an update issue.

[RoxDox]

Honestly think this version is bugged to high hell. Half the prompts don't appear. Keep getting that, can we agree to a new deal on everyone as well.

[gamerpk2]

hey . could u please upload the voice file somewhere else ?

it takes 5 hours to download for me which i tried twice already only for it to fail at the last 5% for some reason

[Tipsy]

It's likely been suggested before, but how about introducing a Deal for Cock Cages? Got Sub Futa play in mind, and I think it'd really fit with the tone of this mod. Cock Cages from Vivi's would be a good place to start. 

This is just a hopeful suggestion, thanks for continuing the work on this mod! 
 

 

Edited December 16, 2025 by Tipsy

[Lozeak]

On 12/13/2025 at 1:42 PM, Racoonity, Serah said:

I'm afraid I still have it (New Game again). Don't know if it's just me, but I checked my Bashed Patch and Synthesis and they don't seem to be affecting anything from DF.

I did see 2 different 'Can we agree a new deal please?' lines in the Dialogue Topics of DF esp with xEdit, but I don't know if that's intended.
_DflowDealControllerYes
_DFlowRCOffer

 

It's me. I basically reuploaded the same file w/o the fix twice. (It's vortex thing)

I have uploaded the fix and it was me testing something that I left in I deleted it. 

Sorry for the inconvenience this caused for everyone that got annoyed by this. 

 

On 12/16/2025 at 9:18 AM, gamerpk2 said:

hey . could u please upload the voice file somewhere else ?

I didn't make em.. So I don't really know what the permissions are on them BUT i did break it up via 7zip if that helps.