Nexusmods Changing Policies on Adult Content

[Count Chocula]

5 hours ago, Leo77 said:

I feel like the petition is targeting the wrong entity. From what i've read, the main culprit in this entire mess is US law, specifically FOSTA-SESTA. So just targeting Collective Shout or Visa and MasterCard likely won't do much.

Let's assume for a moment that petitions like this do something. First, a worldwide petition to change U.S. law, or any nation's law, would be pointless. Second, this is a related albeit different issue. The petition is addressing businesses making decisions to thwart legal transactions. The U.K. law (and similar laws) makes (or seeks to make or will make) certain transaction illegal, and therefore beyond the scope of that petition.

[Grey Cloud]

21 minutes ago, DoctaSax said:

Payment processors cracking down on a variety of platform hosting extreme content has little to do with protecting children,

I agree. Protecting the 'brand image' is what it is.

 

32 minutes ago, DoctaSax said:

CS's letter to the payment processors said such content isn't in line with said processors' corporate values; now that's a crock, innit.

 I think they mean more along the lines of the touchy-feely mission statements these companies release.

 

34 minutes ago, DoctaSax said:

Your point?

Requesting is a better opening gambit than demanding.

[Grey Cloud]

24 minutes ago, unwashed biomass said:

Failrure of a troll. Lile u re not even trying to hide your nature at all.

You've lost me. Are you saying we should not think of the children.

[Qviddhartha]

Visa, MC and other payment card associations have rules to penalize and exclude merchants engaged in illegal activities.  Very doubtful they would be swayed by a petition like CS's.  A local payment processor on the other hand could be subject to political pressure.

 

Overall, I agree with @DoctaSax.  Characterizing gaming sites as encouraging rape or child abuse is disingenuous at best.

[Count Chocula]

30 minutes ago, Qviddhartha said:

Visa, MC and other payment card associations have rules to penalize and exclude merchants engaged in illegal activities.

Why are you mentioned illegal activities? This has nothing to do with illegal activities.

[Qviddhartha]

2 hours ago, Count Chocula said:

Why are you mentioned illegal activities? This has nothing to do with illegal activities.

Because the CS letter indicates that this is what they object to:

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However we have since discovered hundreds of other games featuring rape, incest and child sexual abuse on both Steam and Itch.io. Our research has shown many of these games would breach Australian classification laws. Most of the content found within the games, including the graphics and the developers descriptions, are too distressing for us to make public.

 

[Count Chocula]

19 hours ago, Qviddhartha said:

Because the CS letter indicates that this is what they object to:

It's not about illegal content. Explicit media featuring underage folks is pretty much illegal, for example, no ifs, ands or buts. Illegal content has nothing to do with the U.K. law, the French law or potentially pending U.S. laws in the context of the current discussion. Bringing up the topic of illegal content just muddies the waters in my opinion. But you're free to discuss anything you like, obviously.

 

The discussion has two points of focus, in my opinion. One, laws that require adult media web sites to verify users' ages beyond clicking an "I am 18" button. And two, payment processors, under pressure from political groups, thwarting or attempting to thwart web sites providing legal content to adults.

 

I don't remember now if I posted this image in  this thread or one of the others, but we can see that a U.K. user of pornhub has to 1) make a new pornhub account and 2) make an account on the verifier site and then link them up. "First world problem" territory, no doubt, but that all sounds like a relatively annoying hoop to have to jump through.

Spoiler

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by Count Chocula

[belegost]

15 hours ago, Qviddhartha said:

Characterizing gaming sites as encouraging rape or child abuse is disingenuous at best.

We could use a modern Dee Snider.

[Grey Cloud]

Genuine question.

 

Somebody has a legit adult/18+ game, from say, Steam.

One has had to provide ID/age-verification to purchase the game.

That somebody wants to download a mod for that game from Nexus.

The mod itself is useless if one does not have the game.

Can Nexus take ID/age-verification as already provided and allow the mod download without any further ID/age-verification?

[Count Chocula]

So far Nexusmods is doing diddly squat in terms of age verification beyond the "I am 18" click, so it's a question in a vacuum. And probably better asked somewhere on Nexusmods.

Edited July 28, 2025 by Count Chocula

[travelmedic]

15 hours ago, Count Chocula said:

So far Nexusmods is doing diddly squat in terms of age verification beyond the "I am 18" click, so it's a question in a vacuum. And probably better asked somewhere on Nexusmods.

 

Wait a minute, are you seriously trying to tell me that the sky is not, in fact, falling, and that people here are whipping themselves into a frenzy over nothing???

 

 

[Grey Cloud]

On 7/28/2025 at 4:07 AM, Count Chocula said:

And probably better asked somewhere on Nexusmods

One could replace 'Nexus' with 'Loverslab' and the question is still valid or at least will be if and when all this legislations impacts LL.

 

On 7/28/2025 at 7:49 PM, travelmedic said:

Wait a minute, are you seriously trying to tell me that the sky is not, in fact, falling, and that people here are whipping themselves into a frenzy over nothing???

The new law is starting to feature in articles and vlogs here in the UK. Same crap about things being banned and how easy it is to by-pass with a VPN. No mention of having to give card details to sign up for VPN service.

My personal favourites in the comments are the right-wing bellends castigating Starmer and Labour when it was the Tory govt which introduced the original legislation back in 2023.

 

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VPNs top download charts as age verification law kicks in

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn72ydj70g5o

 

How many of these are people signing up to free trial offers and how many will trouser up for the full VPN 'experience'?

 

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Online Safety Act Backfires as VPNs Surge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do1vEXCqEa0&t=814s

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2025 by Grey Cloud

[Count Chocula]

3 hours ago, travelmedic said:

 

Wait a minute, are you seriously trying to tell me that the sky is not, in fact, falling, and that people here are whipping themselves into a frenzy over nothing???

 

 

It happened once before on the internet.

 

Now, Nexusmods has said they will have to comply with the law. So I'm not saying that because they have not so far means anything beyond "they have not so far." And to continue down my path of curiosity, here is what I see on xhamster when I set my VPN to a U.K. server. 

Spoiler

I think it's interesting that pornhub is complying with the U.K. law, but blocking access for French IPs. Why not comply with the French law the same as the U.K. law? Is the French law more onerous? I certainly have no idea how they differ.

Edited July 28, 2025 by Count Chocula

[Grey Cloud]

34 minutes ago, Count Chocula said:

pornhub is complying with the U.K. law, but blocking access for French IPs

If the video posted by Agent Tex is your source then it is incorrect.

 

Article dated 3rd June.

"The owner of Pornhub, Redtube and YouPorn plans to stop serving adult content to French users as soon as Wednesday afternoon, in protest of government measures forcing it to verify the age of its visitors.

. . .

Aylo Freesites, like other porn platforms, is under a legal obligation to implement age verification solutions by June 7. The restriction is part of measures by the French government to shield minors from inappropriate content passed in 2023."

https://www.politico.eu/article/pornhub-suspend-porn-france/

 

Article dated 20th June.

"Many porn sites, including Pornhub, YouPorn, and RedTube, all went dark earlier this month in France to protest a new age verification law that would have required the websites to collect ID from users. But those sites went back online Friday after a new ruling from a French court suspended enforcement of the law until it can be determined whether it conflicts with existing European Union rules, according to France24."

https://gizmodo.com/pornhub-back-online-in-france-after-court-ruling-about-age-verification-2000618221

 

Article dated 20th June.

This is the France24 article linked in the above quote.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250620-big-name-porn-sites-back-online-in-france-after-age-check-row

 

Note that this French law has been around since 2023. The EU law is a different piece of legislation.

 

[Count Chocula]

The image from xhamster I posted above has wording worth noting. It says "we don't store personal data." Maybe xhamster doesn't, but someone has to, unless the age verification thing happens every single time.

[Grey Cloud]

6 hours ago, Count Chocula said:

It says "we don't store personal data." Maybe xhamster doesn't, but someone has to, unless the age verification thing happens every single time.

Incorrect.

 

You age-verify your account by providing the personal info.

The verification is accepted, your account is marked as checked and the personal info is deleted.

Every time you use your account it is checked that it has been checked.

[Grey Cloud]

A fairly balanced take:

 

Well, balanced apart from the use of the word 'ban' and the failure to mention anything other than porn (e.g. self-harm, depression, suicide, etc.)

Edited July 30, 2025 by Grey Cloud

[Nexussuckstwice]

A fairly balanced take:

 

Well, balanced apart from the use of the word 'file' and the failure to mention anything other than paedo (e.g. art, joy, common sense, etc.)

[Grey Cloud]

On 7/30/2025 at 1:11 PM, Grey Cloud said:

self-harm, depression, suicide,

These and several others are covered by the Online Safety Act which is why I mentioned them.

 

40 minutes ago, Nexussuckstwice said:

art, joy, common sense

These are not because nobody is advocating that children be protected from them.

[Count Chocula]

1 hour ago, Nexussuckstwice said:

A fairly balanced take:

 

Well, balanced apart from the use of the word 'file' and the failure to mention anything other than paedo (e.g. art, joy, common sense, etc.)

Is that what Brits find funny these days? What happened to the likes of Monty Python, Blackadder and even, dare I say it, Benny Hill?

[Grey Cloud]

48 minutes ago, Count Chocula said:

Is that what Brits find funny these days? What happened to the likes of Monty Python, Blackadder and even, dare I say it, Benny Hill?

Never heard of it myself but apparently it ran for three seasons between 2003 and 2005.

Looks about as funny as woodworm in a cripples crutch.

Monkey Dust

[Count Chocula]

Fuck, what an absolute bore-fest. It makes me think of the show Preacher: throw a whole bunch of random nonsense into a blender and hope something entertaining comes out, but all that comes out is pretentious, self-referential horseshit.

[Grey Cloud]

More drama incoming as YouTube announces new age-verification plans.

 

13th August in the USA.

 

Optimus

 

Deep Humor

 

 

[fishburger67]

On 7/21/2025 at 2:33 PM, Grey Cloud said:

Take it how you will but the fact remains that in Scandinavian mythology trolls do not guard bridges.

 

In terms of their habitat, trolls in Norse mythology usually dwelled deep in the forests or high in inaccessible mountain caves. The myth about trolls living under bridges came later on from the Norwegian fairy tale Three Billy Goats Gruff (De tre bukkene Bruse in Norwegian).

Jesus fucking Christ Grey Cloud, do you have to argue about every fucking thing. Maybe we can discuss the topic without you pitching a fit about other crap?

 

Here's an assertion you can argue about.

 

The Sky is Blue!

[Grey Cloud]

7 hours ago, fishburger67 said:

The Sky is Blue!

Not at night.