Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[donttouchmethere]

4 hours ago, shiagwen said:

english is not my home., but could you please tell me what the mod is about ?` not like the description page. i heard there ius no beating and no whipping at all, just dialogues, looking for food, etc, cant be more boring.

Inte  makes a sd patched too, why two differnt versions ?

let me jump on that shiatgwagen,

 

SDpatches:

There are two versions,

 

> Old SD2+ Patches - Do not use with SD3+.7z:

is a continuation of an older SD+ version Inte continues for older DD versions and modified to her licking. If you don't like the new SD+ versions you can travel back in time with it.

 

> SD Patches 330.7z:

is more like an addon, an alternative version for the SD cage at night scene and a great alternative if no cages are close by.

It will make SD enslavement escape a looot harder.

(because you can't try to pickpocket SDmaster or run away or kill him while he is sleeping)

 

SD+ enslavement:

SD enslavement is highly flexible with the NPC that enslaves you and the locations it happens.

That makes it the perfect for sandbox type game setups.

This comes with it's own issues, because DBF can't know where it happens or who enslaved the PC.

To compensate for that you have to give the player a certain degree of freedoms to adapt to the situation they are in.

Also gives great freedom for RP or for other mods to jump in and run their events while the PC is SDenslaved.

 

I see it like that:

SDenslavement gives the border a player can act in.

SDenslavement ---> SDmaster demands ---> Player tries to escape or please the master ---> Escape, Death of SDmaster, send to Dreamworld, Marriage^^, Natural End of Enslavement

 

---> can be filled by:

> SDmaster needs

> your regular things: find food, water, seek a place to bath

> Prostitution for gold (TDF-P is great for that)

> iNeed: if you have followers enslaved with you and Needs are activated

> Campfire + Frostfall: build a fireplace, build a camp, create stuff

> DF follower, if your unlucky and DF follower is still with you => that one needs attention too

> travel around with your SDmaster, to find a new place to stay, because all human hostiles are calmed your free to go where ever you want, also great for exploiting

> the happier your SDmaster tamagotchi is, the more freedom you have to walk around and organize stuff, even do quests

> DEC => is great to rise the difficulty by setting it up to add more DDs after rape, this in turn makes escape harder, because you need to find a way to escape the restrains first to escape/pickpocket

> find a good place for a trap for the SDmaster or even lure hostile creature to your master

> if you end up in a lot of DDs and also have DT2 or compare able mods installed you get a loot of debuffs and you need to escape those if you want to have a chance. That itselfs creates a mini game:

• DLore works great with that, ask friends to help you (works best  with max DDi difficulty settings)
• DF connects perfect to that predictment
• beg SDmaster for help and suffer the consequences
• SLS makes pickpocket and lockpicking impossible while in restrains, means also you need to beg for more things
• use NDUNprostitution to earn keys or worse
• ...

> you can travel around after the first day with your SDmaster if hes happy with you => makes it even possible to have some kind of dominat follower, great to explore and rob bandit camps

> SD is slow, but that in turn give you more time to get into all that enslaved feeling. Only a few mods can create the emotions SD+ can if with the right setup

> try and find help, beg for escape or change the SDmaster and watch them fight over you =D

> combine SD+ with other prostitution mods and make the SDmaster your pimp

> install ME locations and use them in combination with SD+ and SDpatches (thx again for the idea @worik!)

> use the time to train your campfire perks ^^

> add SLAC and flag the SDcollar >D

> go on quest with your SD master pet xD

 

I'm super busy now with all this mod combos and SD+ during SDenslavement.

 

Also SD+ is in constant evolution, so be patient and use a bit of imagination and LOC (load order creator) skills to spice up things on the way.

 

Why do I have the feeling all those words are in vain ?

 

EDIT: if you want an angry master with lots of whippings and rape => don't solve the quest he gives, run away, hit him, never feed him, don't kneel, steal his sweetroll, call him names, resist a lot, equip weapons/attack spells, annoy him while "be quiet" quest is running

 

that said, SDmasters are easy to please, to make it harder I recommend to make the skyrim environment harsher (less food or loot, frostfall, dangerous hostiles, SLS and trade)

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

english is not my home., but could you please tell me what the mod is about ?` not like the description page. i heard there ius no beating and no whipping at all, just dialogues, looking for food, etc, cant be more boring.

Inte  makes a sd patched too, why two differnt versions ?

So wait.. you said that about the mod and you didn't even try it yourself? 

Alright...

 

SD+ includes the following:

 

- enslavement to just about any NPC, human or beast

- manual enslavement with a submit key

- automatic enslavement after defeat through the use of Death Alternative 

- enslavement gear through the use of Devious Devices (collar, armbinders, chains, punishment devices)

- a variable set of enslavement gear for most races of masters

- a system of daily tasks to serve your master

- six enslavement levels with their own perks and dialogues

- a begging system to ask for help from strangers (through SexLab Dialogues)

- a way to ask for food, drinks, clothes and sleep (through SexLab Dialogues)

- a way to sleep anywhere without beds (through SexLab Dialogues)

- a system to prevent you from dying by sending you back to Sanguine's dreamworld

- unique NPCs, enslavement devices and a main quest in Sanguine's dreamworld

- integration with my other mods (Hormones, Sisterhood of Dibella, Stories)

- better control of conditions of enslavement (bounty money, time spent enslaved, disposition of master)

- a way to be released from enslavement devices by asking blacksmiths and court mages

 

Except for the part about preventing death by sending you to Sanguine, NONE of these features were in the original version.

 

The original version also had a side quest about Spriggan enslavement, which I improved upon by adding immersive effects and an easier way to complete the quest.

[Visio Diaboli]

On 8/27/2019 at 10:03 AM, yyjddgr3 said:

About disposition threshold, Is it easier to release the lower the number, or is it easier to release the higher the number?

The higher the master’s disposition, the more likely they are to release you, I believe 

[DeepBlueFrog]

18 minutes ago, vitalis881 said:

The higher the master’s disposition, the more likely they are to release you, I believe 

@yyjddgr3 - The disposition threshold sets the average disposition you need to reach before your master is inclined to release you.

The lower the threshold, the easier it is for you to be released.

If you set it to a high value, you will need to work harder to please your master and have him let you go.

 

[JahReit]

First of all; thanks for sticking with us and continuing you excellent work with SD+ and your other mods.

 

About 3 years ago I asked about an option to enable/disable master travel, to which you replied would be added.  I still have to use console commands, which being old and forgetful is somewhat a chore trying to remember/google the command.

I also mentioned around that time, give or take a year or two, that at one time you had a real "train run" on the PC, which, in later versions turned into just one or two 3 somes.   Not exactly a train.  Of course Deviously Helpless, SL Adventures and some other mods can fill that gap, just not the same as your old train run.

 

I know you have a lot on your plate and not much time with all you have going on, so if you can great, if you can't that's great also ... except for a master_travel toggle.

[shiagwen]

8 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

So wait.. you said that about the mod and you didn't even try it yourself? 

Alright...

 

SD+ includes the following:

 

- enslavement to just about any NPC, human or beast

- manual enslavement with a submit key

- automatic enslavement after defeat through the use of Death Alternative 

- enslavement gear through the use of Devious Devices (collar, armbinders, chains, punishment devices)

- a variable set of enslavement gear for most races of masters

- a system of daily tasks to serve your master

- six enslavement levels with their own perks and dialogues

- a begging system to ask for help from strangers (through SexLab Dialogues)

- a way to ask for food, drinks, clothes and sleep (through SexLab Dialogues)

- a way to sleep anywhere without beds (through SexLab Dialogues)

- a system to prevent you from dying by sending you back to Sanguine's dreamworld

- unique NPCs, enslavement devices and a main quest in Sanguine's dreamworld

- integration with my other mods (Hormones, Sisterhood of Dibella, Stories)

- better control of conditions of enslavement (bounty money, time spent enslaved, disposition of master)

- a way to be released from enslavement devices by asking blacksmiths and court mages

 

Except for the part about preventing death by sending you to Sanguine, NONE of these features were in the original version.

 

The original version also had a side quest about Spriggan enslavement, which I improved upon by adding immersive effects and an easier way to complete the quest.

i have played the mod years ago and quitted it after skyrim ll took out all interesting aspects.  your desription confirms right that. you talk about enslavement system, but only about daily tasks for the master as content of the slavery. just dialogues and looking for food for the master etc. just the sd skyrim ll  made out of it. i can just encourage you to use full zaz program. Inte started to use whipping at least at midnight in her sd patched.

[Saeros]

i suppose the new sept-2019 version, is not compatible with Skyrim SE, correct?

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, Saeros said:

i suppose the new sept-2019 version, is not compatible with Skyrim SE, correct?

That's correct.

The latest changes have not been converted to SE yet.

[DeepBlueFrog]

5 hours ago, shiagwen said:

i have played the mod years ago and quitted it after skyrim ll took out all interesting aspects.  your desription confirms right that. you talk about enslavement system, but only about daily tasks for the master as content of the slavery. just dialogues and looking for food for the master etc. just the sd skyrim ll  made out of it. i can just encourage you to use full zaz program. Inte started to use whipping at least at midnight in her sd patched.

I tried to add punishment and whipping where it makes sense, like after hitting or stealing from your master, or failing tasks, or talking standing up instead of kneeling.

If there are other examples of situation where you would like getting punished, please let me know.

 

Whipping the slave every day at midnight doesn't make sense to me. 

 

By the way, in case you didn't realize, I *am* SkyrimLL

[Saeros]

33 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

That's correct.

The latest changes have not been converted to SE yet.

ok, tnks.

I will wait for the SE con-version?

[WarsunGames]

On 7/20/2019 at 8:27 AM, DeepBlueFrog said:

I am away this weekend. I will check again the conditions of the mod when I return.

Maybe I missed something to detect enslavement has been terminated normally and not with the mead.

The mead was meant as a quick way out of that first enslavement.

If that isn't working for everyone, I will have to find another solution.

OK i finally got things work. Its been a bitch of a time. Well i finally got the game working an i think its the load order. The problem is. Something seriously is wrong with my mod section. This was the most recent load of mods.

Here. Now what happened was. With SD i got taken to Sanqui's location the enslavement happened. But THIS TIME i just let the scripts play out an QUICKLY clicked here's your drink. ( Note. None of my items where removed from me. I had limited removal on.)

 

After getting her the drink. We get to talk, then i request to leave. She wont let you leave. You are stuck there. Now at this point. I think two things happened. 1. I am using Wench mods. The Deadly wenches,Yuriana Wench. Which is a big quest mod sort of.  Now this could be what is interfering with your mod. Or its the Milk Maid economy. Or Milk Addict. One of these may be the issue.

 

I tried to trick the system. I marked a bed i was standing at. When i got summoned to Sanquine. I just typed in Player.moveto 0000000. The location of the bed i was at. An i got away. Not. I bought my freedom. So i was free. almost a day later. I tried to run a dungeon an randomly started to crash to desktop. So. This problem persisted. So i said. it has to be one of the mods. An This was the first mod i clicked to uninstall. Once it was uninstalled. No more crashes. So somethings up. My guess is. Its just not compatible with some mods. OR. its the load order.

LoadOrder_Skyrim_2019-09-08T16-15-38.txt

[grundor67]

By the way, in case you didn't realize, I *am* SkyrimLL 

 

LOL

[Malphias]

I don't know right now (not at my gaming rig at the moment) which version for SE that I was using but I recently uninstalled it.  Once I discovered that Death Alternative is dead and full of bad bugs I removed it from my game which meant no longer being enslaved when losing a fight. That just left intentional surrenders which I never did. In part because I found it very boring to be enslaved. Sometimes there are sex scenes but for the most part it's just standing around bored to death in bondage gear. The whole escape idea doesn't work. I've wandered all over Skyrim with that crap on with no way to remove it. Killing your master? Bullshit. If you get weapon it is auto-removed. Use magic? Nope, you can' t use magic either.  Steal the key from your master? Well, most masters don't sleep and are too sharp to be sneaked up on. I didn't find this fun.

 

Not to mention it's own bugs. I unchecked the Spriggan quest thing hoping that would keep...what were they called 'flowering' spriggan out of  my game since all they do is cause a CTD since some asset path issues exist (ed).  Then I finally get into that meadery and fine the shrine to Sanguine and think, cool, after almost 30 levels I can visit the Dreamworld. Nope. Use the bed and instant ctd every time.

 

At that point it was bye bye mod.

 

I can only hope as one of the few mod authors still working here on Loverslab that these issues will some day be dealt with.

 

[Efgad]

So, I spent some time sleeping in front of the Shrine. However it does not send me to the dreamworld for whatever reason. It gives me all of Sanguine's Artifacts and the like but alas I am not in his little dreamscape when I awake.

[Sam19823]

My kneeling and crowling not working any more after  update 

Can some one help please !

[Rainbw]

Hello, i got a problem with this mod, everytime i try to talk to someone in dream world the game crash any issue ?

 

i play on SSE with may version since thé september version make animations dont work  anymore (even  just walk)

[Adviser69]

To all players of the mod on SE:
 

I just got back, and I'm working on converting the updates as we speak. Please have a bit of patience for at least a few more days. Thank you.

[Adviser69]

On 9/10/2019 at 10:36 AM, Rainbw said:

Hello, i got a problem with this mod, everytime i try to talk to someone in dream world the game crash any issue ?

 

i play on SSE with may version since thé september version make animations dont work  anymore (even  just walk)

The major bug on SD+ for SE is bad facegen, which I will be working on with the conversion of the September update.

[sexcapades]

On 9/10/2019 at 11:30 AM, Sam19823 said:

My kneeling and crowling not working any more after  update 

Can some one help please !

Whenever that happen(ed)s to me... you get yourself enslaved again and you'll be able to crawl again... even after enslavement ends.

[Cali Kazi]

Getting a (Nevermind...) message whenever the owner tries to do sex actions before a set amount of time has passed. I believe it to be related to the Deviously Cursed Loot mod, but no one over there seems to think so so I am posting here as well to see if anyone has had anything similar.

Here's a picture of the message: https://imgur.com/2360NlY
It literally just tells me (nevermind...) and cancels any sex act that was about to happen. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it as this is one of my favorite mods and is just about useless for me at the moment.

[donttouchmethere]

On 9/12/2019 at 4:41 AM, lordkamakazi said:

Getting a (Nevermind...) message whenever the owner tries to do sex actions before a set amount of time has passed. I believe it to be related to the Deviously Cursed Loot mod, but no one over there seems to think so so I am posting here as well to see if anyone has had anything similar.

Here's a picture of the message: https://imgur.com/2360NlY
It literally just tells me (nevermind...) and cancels any sex act that was about to happen. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it as this is one of my favorite mods and is just about useless for me at the moment.

looks like SD+ with SLdialog (hope you have it installed)

Never mind => for what ever reason the sexlab scene/NPC/creature approach got stopped

Smiling => NPC thinks your submissive and is happy with you

tries to hump you => SLdialog creature approach

 

"tries to hump you" should pop up a message box

"nevermind" often seen with creatures that wanted something from you but stopped for what ever reason (for example another mod started a SL scene on your PC)

[Rainbw]

4 hours ago, Adviser69 said:

To all players of the mod on SE:
 

I just got back, and I'm working on converting the updates as we speak. Please have a bit of patience for at least a few more days. Thank you.

Thanks for your work 

[Efgad]

Dunno if it's a bug or intentional but my hair has turned into a glowing red from bimbo blonde from hormones. I haven't started Sanguine's quest either so why I have this hair is beyond me. (I enjoy having that bleach blonde too damnit. :P)

 

[Eddie]

Good night, fellows

 

I'm a big fan of this mod, but I lost touch with the new versions, I'm still using 3.55 version.

 

I came back to play Skyrim some days ago, and something weird happened. Started a new game and lost a fight to some bandits, me and Lydia. Both got raped by Defeat and than enslaved. After that, I couldn't talk anymore with Lydia. She follows me, but if I press E, nothing appears, not even the SL Dialogues options, and sometimes she answers with "...". And that still happens even after killing my captors and removing all devious devices, she follows me naked, attacks enemies, but I can't talk to her, not even to dismiss her as follower or to give her some gear. The only thing I can do is to keep E pressed to enter that command state where you point at something to her do.

 

Tried some console commands to fix it, resetAI, disable and enable, disable and player.placeatme, removed her devious devices via console, markfordelete and player.placeatme, even recycleactor, but none of them worked.

 

I'm pretty sure this bug is happening when SDPlus is activating, I used some saves and even after the Defeat rape, everything was normal.

 

I got a ton of mods, so I'll list the ones I think can have some kind of interaction, and in their load order

 

SexLabFramework v162 FULL

T3nd0s Skyrim Redone

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul

SexLabAroused V28b

Devious Devices Assets

Devious Devices Integration

EZ2C Dialogue Menu - configurable - better navigation and control

Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life

Devious Devices Expansion

SL Defeat v5.3.5

SLDialogues27

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul

Hearthfire multiple adoptions - Now with custom home support for kids and spouse

SDPlus355

 

I would appreciate your help, I don't want to stop using this mod

 

 

 

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

I got a ton of mods, so I'll list the ones I think can have some kind of interaction, and in their load order

don't be scared and post your full load order via export from your modmanager^^

also easier than typing it all ;D

 

reasons why Lydia might got stuck and possible solutions:

> SLdefeat => likes to mess things up => check SLdefeat MCM debug clean options

> follower manager => check for debug options there too, for example NFF "snap out of it" (works only if dialog is possible tho)

> Death alternative => weee that likes to mess things up, check MCM for debug options

> follower dialog "I want you to do something" => might still be activated and got stuck now, try to end it or if not possible change Lydia's equipment by removing or adding a weapon (via any equipment spell from follower/outfit managers, alternative use console)

> follower still in combat mode => trigger SL scene (via SLF debug spells)  or change Lydia equipment

> Alternative => use STA's "slap NPC ass" works sometimes wonders

> change follower manager => UFO is really the oldest of them all

> SD+ might have tried to move the follower to mistwatch after enslavement and had not enough time => see all possible solutions above xD, also remove any zaz/devious devices from her