Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[frozenflowers]

If you get released after "are we there yet", it may means that SD+ is trying to start a third party scenario that do not exists (not installed) and thus nothing happens. I got that one in the beta as SD+ tried to trigger wolfskull.

 

After the punishments, you may see a notification: "you are left to ponder about your fate". After which you won't be able to move for a little while, that is normal and intended and you'll regain access to your movements after a bit.

 

As for the crashes, make sure you are using crash fixes and enboost.

 

Thanks for the tips! Yeah I know about the punishments, but I have had the game just lock up once and a couple times I got stuck during sex animations that just refused to end. I'm saving frequently though so it hasn't been a crippling problem or anything.

 

Also thanks for the tip about the crash fixes; that mod looks more complicated than any of the ones I've installed so far but if I run into more crash problems I'll definitely keep it in mind.

[DeepBlueFrog]

For the premature release, it looks like you are using Simple Slavery in addition to SD+

 

The auction and red wave scenarios need also SexLab Stories to run properly,

 

You also need to manually enable which outcome you want after the auction in Simple Slavery's menu.

[frozenflowers]

For the premature release, it looks like you are using Simple Slavery in addition to SD+

 

The auction and red wave scenarios need also SexLab Stories to run properly,

 

You also need to manually enable which outcome you want after the auction in Simple Slavery's menu.

 

Oooooh I had no idea I was still missing mods.

 

Thank you so much, that makes a lot of sense. I don't have Simple Slavery or SexLab Stories installed.

 

I guess I should install all the "Recommended" mods in the OP (and SexLab Stories too?) ASAP.

 

Edit: Hmmm looks like I'll have to pass on ImmerSlave since it requires Alternate Start LAL and that requires the official Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn DLC which I don't want to pay for. Got everything else though.

[jfraser]

 

For the premature release, it looks like you are using Simple Slavery in addition to SD+

 

The auction and red wave scenarios need also SexLab Stories to run properly,

 

You also need to manually enable which outcome you want after the auction in Simple Slavery's menu.

Oooooh I had no idea I was still missing mods.

 

Thank you so much, that makes a lot of sense. I don't have Simple Slavery or SexLab Stories installed.

 

I guess I should install all the "Recommended" mods in the OP (and SexLab Stories too?) ASAP.

 

Edit: Hmmm looks like I'll have to pass on ImmerSlave since it requires Alternate Start LAL and that requires the official Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn DLC which I don't want to pay for. Got everything else though.

they're really cheap now.

[DeepBlueFrog]

The recommended mods are not required, they just play well with SD.

 

Some are required only if you want certain effects, like multiple outcomes to being sold.

[bicobus]

Is Sanguine enslaving the player at the first visit a new thing? I don't really get the point though, isn't sanguine plan to have the player influencing Nirn with debauchery? By the way, I managed the run away from the owner and the owner seemed to have done nothing at all (still stuck in her AI routine of watching over the fire). Came back and killed her to get the key though. Between those events, I went to riverwood to ask the blacksmith to remove my shackles, which he did, then directly tried to enslave me back. A bit self contradictory I believe.

 

Anyhow, I still have to go back to the enslaved state and see if the then owner finally triggers the travel package or not. Last time I tried, I didn't get to reach stage two and the owner already was super happy with my toon and gave me more freedom, then chose to follow me around (but kept stuck in the AI package of watching over the fort) and then gave me some clothes. Shouldn't there be a condition for those event to occurs? A minimum level of slavery brokenness attained perhaps?

[frozenflowers]

I have a question about the Cage Events; I have them enabled under configuration and I went and got enslaved at Mistwatch in the tower with a locked cell and cage both available. My understanding is that the Cage Event is supposed to trigger at midnight and lock me up until 8...

 

It's just not happening for some reason. I've tried everything to get it to work but my Owner just goes right to bed and leaves me out to roam.

[sairus323]

For some reason when i'm losing to bandits and supposed to be enslaved game crashes...

[threehurl]

After getting enslaved I keep getting the "Your collar compels you to drop your weapon when attacking your owner" message repeatetly, even though I am not wearing a weapon nor attacking the owner. Reinstalling the mod and starting a new save didn't help. Any suggestions?

[sairus323]

my game also crashes when i supposed to recieve spriggan infection... maybe the problem is in "death alternative" mod...

 

EDIT: yep. looks like that. spriggan crash was fixed by reinstalling DA.

[jfraser]

After getting enslaved I keep getting the "Your collar compels you to drop your weapon when attacking your owner" message repeatetly, even though I am not wearing a weapon nor attacking the owner. Reinstalling the mod and starting a new save didn't help. Any suggestions?

that includes equipped spells, and might also trigger if you have any kind of unarmed combat mod. Unequip any spells and temporarily disable unarmed combat mods if you have them.

[threehurl]

 

After getting enslaved I keep getting the "Your collar compels you to drop your weapon when attacking your owner" message repeatetly, even though I am not wearing a weapon nor attacking the owner. Reinstalling the mod and starting a new save didn't help. Any suggestions?

that includes equipped spells, and might also trigger if you have any kind of unarmed combat mod. Unequip any spells and temporarily disable unarmed combat mods if you have them.

 

 

Nope, I don't have any spells equipped, and no combat mods

[Durante]

Okay, I've pretty much figured out how this mod works and such   the last issue I have is that it isn't compatible with female vampire elf race, which gets removed from master faction after day 2, tried it out with nord vampires and it works fine

[DeepBlueFrog]

Is Sanguine enslaving the player at the first visit a new thing? I don't really get the point though, isn't sanguine plan to have the player influencing Nirn with debauchery? By the way, I managed the run away from the owner and the owner seemed to have done nothing at all (still stuck in her AI routine of watching over the fire). Came back and killed her to get the key though. Between those events, I went to riverwood to ask the blacksmith to remove my shackles, which he did, then directly tried to enslave me back. A bit self contradictory I believe.

 

Anyhow, I still have to go back to the enslaved state and see if the then owner finally triggers the travel package or not. Last time I tried, I didn't get to reach stage two and the owner already was super happy with my toon and gave me more freedom, then chose to follow me around (but kept stuck in the AI package of watching over the fort) and then gave me some clothes. Shouldn't there be a condition for those event to occurs? A minimum level of slavery brokenness attained perhaps?

Sanguine enslaving you is a new thing and a first step to the eventual quest that will come.

 

You can easily skip it though - just ask him to go and he will reluctantly release you.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I will look at the other questions in a few days, when I come back from the business trip I am on right now.

[Dudemeisterino]

Unfortunately the mod is unplayable to me and I haven't found any solution to these problems. I am running the latest version (359).

Issue 1:

Whenever I load a game, it says "SD+ updating to version: 2017041024" and opens a box saying "cancelling enslavement for update" which results in losing any progress I've made so far.

I've tried to update PapyrusUtil as suggested in a previous post. It did not work.

Issue 2:

Every now and then, completely random, it says "You are enslaved to a master that has been removed from master races. Your enslavement was terminated"  resulting in the loss of all progress as well, even though the race is completely normal just as always.

 

What can be the issue here?

[LesboIsBesto]

SD+ has been working great for me so far but I have some issues I need help with:

 

How long does it take to reach slavery level 3? I'm not sure how to measure in-game time but my best guess is from my first save as my enslavement started, the numbers on the save are at 004.17.25 while most recent save is at 011.42.06 (don't know if that's the in-game time or something else) & between that I've gotten to max disposition, double digits trust, & allowance points are at 32 points. I've used the "I'm tired, why me, & what do you want" dialogues to advance me further without getting negative values in disposition & trust while fulfilling my mistress's requirements for each day but I still haven't ranked up in level since getting to 2. What's the fastest amount of time you know that someone can get to level 3, then be freed from slavery without having their owner dead or escaping?

 

Also my mistress will walk around at her own leisure while I'm either prostituting myself through the submit or begging options which isn't a bad thing unless I have the Devious Framework leash game active. Even though I have the option selected to allow sex & include owners, once I connect the leash though Catch SD+ Enslavement & Start SD+ Leash in DFW Support, my master will pull me out of a sex animation if she walks too far away while the leash is on me. As a result I have had to play without it which sucks cuz I liked the leash game being connected to SD+. I already went through a whole bunch of shit to fix my game's other problems with the help of the Simple Slavery author so is there a way to fix these issues without having to restart another new game or reinstall these mods?

 

One more thing: even though the gender restriction in the sexual orientation section in SD+'s MCM menu is set to same only (my character is female), men will still get involved in animations or initiate one. Is the gender restriction known to not work well or is it just there in name only?

[bicobus]

Unfortunately the mod is unplayable to me and I haven't found any solution to these problems. I am running the latest version (359).

Issue 1:

Whenever I load a game, it says "SD+ updating to version: 2017041024" and opens a box saying "cancelling enslavement for update" which results in losing any progress I've made so far.

I've tried to update PapyrusUtil as suggested in a previous post. It did not work.

Issue 2:

Every now and then, completely random, it says "You are enslaved to a master that has been removed from master races. Your enslavement was terminated"  resulting in the loss of all progress as well, even though the race is completely normal just as always.

 

What can be the issue here?

 

#1: you need to install SD+, save then reload that save so that it can continue to properly install itself thus the "updating to version" notification. This is due to some routines who can only run during a game restoration (load savegame), other mods requires it as well, so it's always a good idea to do a save & reload after you finished to install all your stuff.

 

#2: no idea what causes this, skyrimll will have more to say when real life allow him more time to get back to modding.

[bicobus]

SD+ has been working great for me so far but I have some issues I need help with:

 

How long does it take to reach slavery level 3? I'm not sure how to measure in-game time but my best guess is from my first save as my enslavement started, the numbers on the save are at 004.17.25 while most recent save is at 011.42.06 (don't know if that's the in-game time or something else) & between that I've gotten to max disposition, double digits trust, & allowance points are at 32 points. I've used the "I'm tired, why me, & what do you want" dialogues to advance me further without getting negative values in disposition & trust while fulfilling my mistress's requirements for each day but I still haven't ranked up in level since getting to 2. What's the fastest amount of time you know that someone can get to level 3, then be freed from slavery without having their owner dead or escaping?

 

Also my mistress will walk around at her own leisure while I'm either prostituting myself through the submit or begging options which isn't a bad thing unless I have the Devious Framework leash game active. Even though I have the option selected to allow sex & include owners, once I connect the leash though Catch SD+ Enslavement & Start SD+ Leash in DFW Support, my master will pull me out of a sex animation if she walks too far away while the leash is on me. As a result I have had to play without it which sucks cuz I liked the leash game being connected to SD+. I already went through a whole bunch of shit to fix my game's other problems with the help of the Simple Slavery author so is there a way to fix these issues without having to restart another new game or reinstall these mods?

 

One more thing: even though the gender restriction in the sexual orientation section in SD+'s MCM menu is set to same only (my character is female), men will still get involved in animations or initiate one. Is the gender restriction known to not work well or is it just there in name only?

 

#1: two to four in-game days if you cheat a bit (by giving yourself food and money). There is not enough information given by SD+ at the moment to properly understand how long and exactly what is needed. You may want to ask the owner "why me" and get a list of passive stuff it wants you to do (sex, beating, etc). However I believe that those passive stuff have an hidden quantity meter so there again spam the "why me" and wait a bit when nothing is listed.

 

#2: yes, AI packages are terrible and will make your owner into a dumb dumb.

 

#3: the gender restriction only applies to sanguine which likes to switch from female to male. The restriction will force sanguine to always be the selected gender.

[frozenflowers]

I'm still loving the heck out of this mod, but after achieving Level 5 slavery once it does feel like I've seen most of what's there to see.

 

Two things:

 

1. After reaching Level 5 slavery and getting the options to go free, I tried selecting the "join faction but remain a slave" option, which is supposed to let me keep the collar, but it just ended up releasing me anyway and I don't have the collar. I can't find any difference in the way the NPCs react to me versus the join faction option. Is that normal and this ending is just kind of unfinished?

 

2. I still can't figure out a way to get the Cage Event to trigger. I've tried getting enslaved by various bandits in Mistwatch who are near locked cages or cells, and midnight keeps coming and going without any change. Are there only a specific few locations where this is supposed to work? Do I need the official DLC? I have made sure that the option is active in config.

 

And I guess a more open ended question would be, if I've already tried slavery with bandits all way to Level 5, is there anyone else I should try getting enslaved by to experience different content?

[LesboIsBesto]

#1: two to four in-game days if you cheat a bit (by giving yourself food and money). There is not enough information given by SD+ at the moment to properly understand how long and exactly what is needed. You may want to ask the owner "why me" and get a list of passive stuff it wants you to do (sex, beating, etc). However I believe that those passive stuff have an hidden quantity meter so there again spam the "why me" and wait a bit when nothing is listed.

 

#2: yes, AI packages are terrible and will make your owner into a dumb dumb.

 

#3: the gender restriction only applies to sanguine which likes to switch from female to male. The restriction will force sanguine to always be the selected gender.

Disregard the message about me not being able to get freed from my cuffs & collar as I have figured it out myself. I do have a question about meeting Sanguine though. I got to his realm & was immediately enslaved upon meeting him. That's normal right? I went through another dialogue option which sent me back to the normal world but I was still enslaved & he came with me, but I was able to immediately free myself like with my first master upon arrival? Is all of that intended or is something weird with my game? And what happens to me every time I go back to his realm? The PDF didn't explain this well so I wasn't expecting any of it at all.

 

One more thing, animations with Sanguine don't work the way they're supposed to for me. I have other packs installed like Leitos & during aggressive scenes at first it gives me the option to choose which one I want but then it interrupts the animation to default to ZAZ animations, the ones with Zap at the start of each one's name. I've had 3 animations interrupted & replaced as a result which kinda ruins it for me since I can't use the ones I want. Sanguine is the only person who's done this so far as my previous owner never did & no other aggressors either.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

SD+ has been working great for me so far but I have some issues I need help with:

 

(...)

 

One more thing: even though the gender restriction in the sexual orientation section in SD+'s MCM menu is set to same only (my character is female), men will still get involved in animations or initiate one. Is the gender restriction known to not work well or is it just there in name only?

 

(...)

 

#3: the gender restriction only applies to sanguine which likes to switch from female to male. The restriction will force sanguine to always be the selected gender.

 

 

Not quite.

 

Gender restrictions will affect all sex scenes with these conditions:

 

1- They have to be initiated by SD+ or Dialogues. If your scene is triggered by another mod, they will not be affected by that setting

2- I tried to extend the restrictions to threesome animations but I am still get false matches.

 

As Bicobus said, the setting also conditions the gender of Sanguine.

[bicobus]

 

#1: two to four in-game days if you cheat a bit (by giving yourself food and money). There is not enough information given by SD+ at the moment to properly understand how long and exactly what is needed. You may want to ask the owner "why me" and get a list of passive stuff it wants you to do (sex, beating, etc). However I believe that those passive stuff have an hidden quantity meter so there again spam the "why me" and wait a bit when nothing is listed.

 

#2: yes, AI packages are terrible and will make your owner into a dumb dumb.

 

#3: the gender restriction only applies to sanguine which likes to switch from female to male. The restriction will force sanguine to always be the selected gender.

Disregard the message about me not being able to get freed from my cuffs & collar as I have figured it out myself. I do have a question about meeting Sanguine though. I got to his realm & was immediately enslaved upon meeting him. That's normal right? I went through another dialogue option which sent me back to the normal world but I was still enslaved & he came with me, but I was able to immediately free myself like with my first master upon arrival? Is all of that intended or is something weird with my game? And what happens to me every time I go back to his realm? The PDF didn't explain this well so I wasn't expecting any of it at all.

 

One more thing, animations with Sanguine don't work the way they're supposed to for me. I have other packs installed like Leitos & during aggressive scenes at first it gives me the option to choose which one I want but then it interrupts the animation to default to ZAZ animations, the ones with Zap at the start of each one's name. I've had 3 animations interrupted & replaced as a result which kinda ruins it for me since I can't use the ones I want. Sanguine is the only person who's done this so far as my previous owner never did & no other aggressors either.

 

Yes, stated a bit earlier in this thread sanguine now enslave you and it is as easy to get free with the "Can i go now?" dialogue option. I don't like this though, if sanguine uses the same enslavement mechanic from the regular NPC in Nirn then it'll be just more of the same.

 

As for the animations, you probably have something installed which allows you to chose and is disregarded by SD+. Or something, I don't get a choice when I go talk to sanguine.

 

 

 

SD+ has been working great for me so far but I have some issues I need help with:

 

(...)

 

One more thing: even though the gender restriction in the sexual orientation section in SD+'s MCM menu is set to same only (my character is female), men will still get involved in animations or initiate one. Is the gender restriction known to not work well or is it just there in name only?

 

(...)

 

#3: the gender restriction only applies to sanguine which likes to switch from female to male. The restriction will force sanguine to always be the selected gender.

 

 

Not quite.

 

Gender restrictions will affect all sex scenes with these conditions:

 

1- They have to be initiated by SD+ or Dialogues. If your scene is triggered by another mod, they will not be affected by that setting

2- I tried to extend the restrictions to threesome animations but I am still get false matches.

 

As Bicobus said, the setting also conditions the gender of Sanguine.

 

 

My bad then. What's the plan with banned gender? Will they receive a blessing by sanguine and get it changed or will they go full domination and bondage on the player instead? Will we, at last, be able to wear pony boots and used as a mule?

[LesboIsBesto]

 

Not quite.

 

Gender restrictions will affect all sex scenes with these conditions:

 

1- They have to be initiated by SD+ or Dialogues. If your scene is triggered by another mod, they will not be affected by that setting

2- I tried to extend the restrictions to threesome animations but I am still get false matches.

 

As Bicobus said, the setting also conditions the gender of Sanguine.

 

I've had animations even with me & one other person only be initiated by men & I know it was SD+ cuz it gives me the Submit/Resist options. Whether its because it was random, it was started by the begging dialogue option or the plea dialogue option, I still get men in animations sometimes. So after slavery level 1, i only do the dialogue options when alone with my mistress or only around other women. Kind of annoying to do though when a man won't get away from a woman I want to see in an animation like Mjoll from Riften.

[LesboIsBesto]

 

Yes, stated a bit earlier in this thread sanguine now enslave you and it is as easy to get free with the "Can i go now?" dialogue option. I don't like this though, if sanguine uses the same enslavement mechanic from the regular NPC in Nirn then it'll be just more of the same.

 

 

As for the animations, you probably have something installed which allows you to chose and is disregarded by SD+. Or something, I don't get a choice when I go talk to sanguine.

 

I have SexLab Defeat but I'm not sure that what's been allowing me to choose because it's only meant for surrendering in combat & choosing animations in that scenario. But something has let me choose animations while enslaved on occasion also. Either it will lock me to lesbian only animations or it will let me choose aggressive animations or threesome ones when I was enslaved by my first mistress but with Sanguine, anything tagged with Zap overrides any other running animation, even if the system chose a Zap animation to start with, which is even weirder.