Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[CliftonJD]

Hey, I wanted to try this mod out, but I have a bit of trouble starting it. It says that you need to die by a supported faction. Can someone please tell me what human factions there are, or if ii is listed somewhere, just show me the link please? 

 

Also, I saw some things about spiders, which does the opposite of arousing me. Will any spider action be shown no matter what, or can I disable it/it is optional?

most hostile factions work for this, the easiest known factions are bandits and thalmer, but there are many others out there as well

i think the supported faction deatrh may have been old, not sure where you read that or it was a simple slavery thing. simple slavery needs bandits

 

mostly this just needs daymoyl configured proper to work with health percentages in bleedout, 15% is good

 

couldn't tell ya anything on the spider stuff tho

[DeepBlueFrog]

I have a question, about the now-old version 3.4. I've poked around in the mod using the CK, and searched the thread to see if it's already been asked/answered.

 

What causes the Sanguine's Blessing variable to increment? I believe this is what progresses the conversations you have with Sanguine in the dreamworld, is that correct? 

 

In my current game, the dreamworld conversations don't seem to be progressing; I get the same introductory dialogue every time I go, despite having been through enslavement quests in the meantime.

 

If I have some idea/hints as to what the triggers are, maybe I can figure out if something is screwing with it. Or maybe it's Working As Intended. Thanks!

 

The conversations from Sanguine are not linked to the 'sanguine blessing' value.

 

That value is used mostly to control the intensity of the Coveted effect ('naked' assaults when you are not naked at all).

 

I have plans to finish a quest around Sanguine and the value will be used then, but for now, it looks like it is working as intended.

 

Is there any procedure that needs to be followed when updating? Or can I just replace the old version when I'm not currently enslaved?

 

Just update the files.

 

If you update during an enslavement, the mod will terminate enslavement automatically to force a refresh of the quests.

 

sigh, still not update creature master, one year more

 

Sorry to disappoint.. the temple of Dibella and Hormones needed my attention most of last year.

 

I will spend this year on wrapping up Alicia, Stories and Sanguine's quests, and that will demand more actions around creatures as masters.

 

Hey, I wanted to try this mod out, but I have a bit of trouble starting it. It says that you need to die by a supported faction. Can someone please tell me what human factions there are, or if ii is listed somewhere, just show me the link please? 

 

Also, I saw some things about spiders, which does the opposite of arousing me. Will any spider action be shown no matter what, or can I disable it/it is optional?

 

Most factions are fair game... I have a few exceptions for dragons or ghosts for example.

 

The spiders just give you eggs parasites if you have sex with them. You can turn off that effect with a console command. Try help 'parasite' and look for global variables in the console.

 

anyone found a fix for the "you should stay close to your master" bug?

 

I fixed the previous bug with that message and I added the message for another situation (when you actually wander off).

Are you saying it is displayed too often?

 

I'm using weightmorphs mod to increase weight appearance on eating,can we have a class of master that feeds the Toon all time every time to keep her getting big? Ty I'm advance, I have been trim this since forever gagagag,never tired of it

 

For now, you will have to ask for food manually. 

Adding a new class of masters at this point is a very low priority compared to everything I have to work on.

 

Are there still plans to finish level six of slavery? If yes any clues to what that will include?

 

Yes... see my comment above regarding creatures as masters. I am hoping to finish it this year.

 

 

 

A new version is out (3.4.3) with many fixes:

 

-snip-

- Added:  expiration date to slave faction management 

^1

 

-snip-

- Added: short term option to leave your master without joining factions 

^2

 

-snip-

 

 

1^Does this mean there is now a way to leave the faction of a master without the console command to clear them all?

 

2^What does this mean? Didn't we already have an option to end enslavement without joining the master's factions?

 

Also, why is it that you don't recommend using this for a dedicated save file? I saw that there is an issue with the way the updating works, but as long as I never update the version for a given play-through, is there any risk from the mod? I have only seen recent issues that arose from updating, but that no papyrus spam appears when using the same version for the duration of a play-through.

 

 

What I added means you will be forced to leave the factions if you stay free for a period of time.

The older options are just manual options at the end of enslavement.

 

"crawl like dog" still try stand up...

knell animation don't start until 1st master sex act...

 

I will need more details for that one.

 

Are you wearing a leather armbinder or iron chains?

[TamaChan]

 

What I added means you will be forced to leave the factions if you stay free for a period of time.

The older options are just manual options at the end of enslavement.

 

So if I end enslavement by joining, for example, the bandit faction from my master, then after a certain amount of time, it will automatically remove me from the bandit faction?

[kekzz]

Ran into an issue now when I got captured by a group of rogue mages in Morvunskar while on the quest "A night to remember".
I can't interact with any of the mages running around except my follower who is oddly enough very willing to help me out of my armbinds and such even though she's strapped down hard as well

Haven't ran into this issue before so I'm guessing it might have to something to do with this quest or maybe mages ain't that talkative..

[SullenMan]

wearing a leather armbinder or iron chains?

 

chains... armbinder don't work like kneel or crawl animation trigger

[CuriousGent]

I have an issue with the new version, when enslaved by bandits my pc isn't joining their faction and thus can't talk to either their Owner or any other nearby bandits while enslaved. I've tested it with other factions i.e. stormcloaks and it works fine, any idea what the problem is?

[CliftonJD]

Ran into an issue now when I got captured by a group of rogue mages in Morvunskar while on the quest "A night to remember".

I can't interact with any of the mages running around except my follower who is oddly enough very willing to help me out of my armbinds and such even though she's strapped down hard as well

 

Haven't ran into this issue before so I'm guessing it might have to something to do with this quest or maybe mages ain't that talkative..

actually my first question would've been if you have sl dialogues installed, but:

 

I have an issue with the new version, when enslaved by bandits my pc isn't joining their faction and thus can't talk to either their Owner or any other nearby bandits while enslaved. I've tested it with other factions i.e. stormcloaks and it works fine, any idea what the problem is?

these 2 issues look related

guessing some new bugs to iron out

[kekzz]

I was able to overcome this issue by walking out of the zone and back in again, maybe a save/load would work as well but I didn't think of it and didn't want to jeopardize my 'safe' save.

[spyke123]

Trying to play this again but when I install it I get a message saying my devious devices integration is out of date, and that SD+ will not work properly...

 

 

...and well, it doesnt. No devices gets equipped and I get spammed with "your owner bind your hands again"...

 

 

I use DDI 2.9.2  ( 2.8.3 like it says in description is no longer available it seems)...  are there any known issues with the new version of DDI ?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Trying to play this again but when I install it I get a message saying my devious devices integration is out of date, and that SD+ will not work properly...

 

 

...and well, it doesnt. No devices gets equipped and I get spammed with "your owner bind your hands again"...

 

 

I use DDI 2.9.2 ( 2.8.3 like it says in description is no longer available it seems)... are there any known issues with the new version of DDI ?

Are you using Mod Organizer?

 

Some people had issues with DDi not registering properly on their MO profile and causing this issue.

[spyke123]

 

Trying to play this again but when I install it I get a message saying my devious devices integration is out of date, and that SD+ will not work properly...

 

 

...and well, it doesnt. No devices gets equipped and I get spammed with "your owner bind your hands again"...

 

 

I use DDI 2.9.2 ( 2.8.3 like it says in description is no longer available it seems)... are there any known issues with the new version of DDI ?

Are you using Mod Organizer?

 

Some people had issues with DDi not registering properly on their MO profile and causing this issue.

 

 

Nope... not using MO... 

 

getting the same message for dev helpless now, so I recon it is DDi-related and I´m in the wrong thread 

 

[CliftonJD]

 

 

Trying to play this again but when I install it I get a message saying my devious devices integration is out of date, and that SD+ will not work properly...

 

 

...and well, it doesnt. No devices gets equipped and I get spammed with "your owner bind your hands again"...

 

 

I use DDI 2.9.2 ( 2.8.3 like it says in description is no longer available it seems)... are there any known issues with the new version of DDI ?

Are you using Mod Organizer?

 

Some people had issues with DDi not registering properly on their MO profile and causing this issue.

 

 

Nope... not using MO... 

 

getting the same message for dev helpless now, so I recon it is DDi-related and I´m in the wrong thread 

 

 

try updating dd assets as well then

many have updated ddi, but not ddassets or they get the versions mixed altogether and both out of date

if that's not enough, post the log

no way to re-register dd from within the game so you might need to start a new game after the update

[BoneLLab]

I keep getting the Owner to audibly tell me to put on some clothes repeatedly.

Like the default NPC clothes detection is being triggered by my character.

I don't have any clothes detection mods.

Is this a bug?

Is there a way to just simply make the armbinder or the cuffs be considered clothing?

[CliftonJD]

I keep getting the Owner to audibly tell me to put on some clothes repeatedly.

Like the default NPC clothes detection is being triggered by my character.

I don't have any clothes detection mods.

Is this a bug?

Is there a way to just simply make the armbinder or the cuffs be considered clothing?

this mod gives the player a coveted effect which forces "sanguines lust" on everybody else so they think the player is wearing less and less clothing for each trip to sanguine's realm, until it seems to everybody that the player is always naked

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

I keep getting the Owner to audibly tell me to put on some clothes repeatedly.

Like the default NPC clothes detection is being triggered by my character.

I don't have any clothes detection mods.

Is this a bug?

Is there a way to just simply make the armbinder or the cuffs be considered clothing?

this mod gives the player a coveted effect which forces "sanguines lust" on everybody else so they think the player is wearing less and less clothing for each trip to sanguine's realm, until it seems to everybody that the player is always naked

You can turn that effect off in the menu or by global variable through the console if it becomes too much to handle.

[WarsunGames]

OK! I found the problem i had with Not entering a city.It was SDPlus342.Now adding SDPlus343.

 

Still investigating this.My character turned invisible.I found issues where i could not start my game.I found this has something to do with BeeingFemale compatible with this mod.Just give me some time.I think it has to do with another mod.In other words im finding conflicts right now.So bare with me.

[StupidFox]

I'm a bit confused currently. 
I was taken in as a slave by thugs and the master keeps punishing me even when I submit and do what he wants. 
Also, the mod keeps running the sex animations, then partway through stage 1, replacing it with the punishment animation for my character, but not for the master, so the master is still doing the sex animation and I'm locked in chains or whatever hanging from the ceiling where he's not... 

I haven't been able to make solid gains in the master's trust because it keeps going down when I get punishment, which I'm getting for doing nothing apparently.

I've used the reset position key from Sexlab several times to get the animations to line up and it seems like that often immediately results in the master hitting me again.

The master has also had a gag on me for so long, I'm going to starve to death (Frostfall, RND, etc). 
But he will never take me out of punishment.

 

Also, master keeps telling me to get on my knees, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that?

So I think I'm dealing with some bugs? 
Any ideas?

[CliftonJD]

OK! I found the problem i had with Not entering a city.It was SDPlus342.Now adding SDPlus343.

 

huh?

you'll have to explain better than that if you're going to blame sd for an issue with entering cities, that don't make sense at all

I'm a bit confused currently. 

I was taken in as a slave by thugs and the master keeps punishing me even when I submit and do what he wants. 

Also, the mod keeps running the sex animations, then partway through stage 1, replacing it with the punishment animation for my character, but not for the master, so the master is still doing the sex animation and I'm locked in chains or whatever hanging from the ceiling where he's not... 

 

I haven't been able to make solid gains in the master's trust because it keeps going down when I get punishment, which I'm getting for doing nothing apparently.

 

I've used the reset position key from Sexlab several times to get the animations to line up and it seems like that often immediately results in the master hitting me again.

 

ok, that's your first mistake and likely the issue with your animations and progress, you'll notice by default they use the same key on the sd config

 

The master has also had a gag on me for so long, I'm going to starve to death (Frostfall, RND, etc). 

But he will never take me out of punishment.

 

Also, master keeps telling me to get on my knees, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that?

 

So I think I'm dealing with some bugs? 

Any ideas?

the phrase "get on your knees" altho is said by master, its actually not, what i mean is that phrase can be used by anybody as part of the coveted effect, can't remember if that's also linked to the collar or not

also if things play out right it should be putting a prompt on your screen to resist or submit, at which point you can look at the player before clicking it and notice you're already down, choosing resist will leave you there and submitting usually has the player on her knees sexually

[DeepBlueFrog]

I'm a bit confused currently. 

I was taken in as a slave by thugs and the master keeps punishing me even when I submit and do what he wants. 

Also, the mod keeps running the sex animations, then partway through stage 1, replacing it with the punishment animation for my character, but not for the master, so the master is still doing the sex animation and I'm locked in chains or whatever hanging from the ceiling where he's not... 

 

I haven't been able to make solid gains in the master's trust because it keeps going down when I get punishment, which I'm getting for doing nothing apparently.

 

I've used the reset position key from Sexlab several times to get the animations to line up and it seems like that often immediately results in the master hitting me again.

 

The master has also had a gag on me for so long, I'm going to starve to death (Frostfall, RND, etc). 

But he will never take me out of punishment.

 

Also, master keeps telling me to get on my knees, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that?

 

So I think I'm dealing with some bugs? 

Any ideas?

 

Use the 'pleading' dialogue when you have a punishment on (like a gag). After a while, you master will remove them.

 

For animations changing at random, check your bound animation settings in Devious Devices and in Zaz animation pack (they can be called animation filters too). You need to have only one of the two ON at the same time. I like to turn both on personally.

[CliftonJD]

 

I'm a bit confused currently. 

I was taken in as a slave by thugs and the master keeps punishing me even when I submit and do what he wants. 

Also, the mod keeps running the sex animations, then partway through stage 1, replacing it with the punishment animation for my character, but not for the master, so the master is still doing the sex animation and I'm locked in chains or whatever hanging from the ceiling where he's not... 

 

I haven't been able to make solid gains in the master's trust because it keeps going down when I get punishment, which I'm getting for doing nothing apparently.

 

I've used the reset position key from Sexlab several times to get the animations to line up and it seems like that often immediately results in the master hitting me again.

 

The master has also had a gag on me for so long, I'm going to starve to death (Frostfall, RND, etc). 

But he will never take me out of punishment.

 

Also, master keeps telling me to get on my knees, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that?

 

So I think I'm dealing with some bugs? 

Any ideas?

 

Use the 'pleading' dialogue when you have a punishment on (like a gag). After a while, you master will remove them.

 

For animations changing at random, check your bound animation settings in Devious Devices and in Zaz animation pack (they can be called animation filters too). You need to have only one of the two ON at the same time. I like to turn both on personally.

 

 

both OFF, i'm sure its a typo, but to avoid the confusion, they are already both on by default and shouldn't be

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

I'm a bit confused currently. 

I was taken in as a slave by thugs and the master keeps punishing me even when I submit and do what he wants. 

Also, the mod keeps running the sex animations, then partway through stage 1, replacing it with the punishment animation for my character, but not for the master, so the master is still doing the sex animation and I'm locked in chains or whatever hanging from the ceiling where he's not... 

 

I haven't been able to make solid gains in the master's trust because it keeps going down when I get punishment, which I'm getting for doing nothing apparently.

 

I've used the reset position key from Sexlab several times to get the animations to line up and it seems like that often immediately results in the master hitting me again.

 

The master has also had a gag on me for so long, I'm going to starve to death (Frostfall, RND, etc). 

But he will never take me out of punishment.

 

Also, master keeps telling me to get on my knees, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that?

 

So I think I'm dealing with some bugs? 

Any ideas?

 

Use the 'pleading' dialogue when you have a punishment on (like a gag). After a while, you master will remove them.

 

For animations changing at random, check your bound animation settings in Devious Devices and in Zaz animation pack (they can be called animation filters too). You need to have only one of the two ON at the same time. I like to turn both on personally.

 

 

both OFF, i'm sure its a typo, but to avoid the confusion, they are already both on by default and shouldn't be

 

 

 

Yes ... sorry... I like to turn them both OFF .. thanks for correcting me

[StupidFox]

ok, that's your first mistake and likely the issue with your animations and progress, you'll notice by default they use the same key on the sd config

I don't see any key for progressing animations on the SD config. I only have three player hotkeys on SD Config

As far as I can tell, none of them are the same as my SL hotkeys, but I'll give them another check over. 

 

I wish the controls settings showed the hotkeys from ALL mods so you could make sure nothing was conflicting. Guh.

 

the phrase "get on your knees" altho is said by master, its actually not, what i mean is that phrase can be used by anybody as part of the coveted effect, can't remember if that's also linked to the collar or not

 

 

also if things play out right it should be putting a prompt on your screen to resist or submit, at which point you can look at the player before clicking it and notice you're already down, choosing resist will leave you there and submitting usually has the player on her knees sexually

 

Okay, thank you. It is putting a prompt to submit or resist, and I hit submit and it goes to sex. But then the hitting starts anyway. Heh.

 

Use the 'pleading' dialogue when you have a punishment on (like a gag). After a while, you master will remove them.

 

For animations changing at random, check your bound animation settings in Devious Devices and in Zaz animation pack (they can be called animation filters too). You need to have only one of the two ON at the same time. I like to turn both off personally.

Oooh okay. They responded badly to that the first time so I didn't figure they were going to like it. I guess if you keep doing it, it gets better over time. 

I didn't know so many details about how this works. I feel like I missed something somewhere.

 

What effect does "both off" have? Are there then no bound animations? Or is there another default set?

Which one is the one with all the bondage gear? I imagine that's DD, and Zaz is the ones where you're just on your knees but in an armbinder or whatever?

 

 

Thanks all for helping me figure out some things. I'm going to see now if it will work!

[AwfulArchdemon]

Probably noob to ask, but is choosing "submit" considered consensual? For example, if I used Lovers Victim, would it say I was raped and give the debuff? And in Sexlab's Sex Diary? I'd kinda like to have less choice in the matter, even though punishment can happen for saying no (presumably...haven't tried the new version yet). My favorite thing about the original SD was that your owner could just take you whenever (s)he wanted.

 

And I remember having mixed results when using jbezorg's Wear n' Tear. Sometimes being raped (?) in SD+ would give some tear, and sometimes it wouldn't register. Is that an SD thing? I'm pretty sure, if memory serves correctly, that other mods had the expected results (like LV). Anyone using both SD and W&T and know the answer to this?

 

Also, has any Private Needs support been added yet? I usually spend most of my slavery pissing myself...

 

However, that can be quite an interesting spice when being anally raped and seeing my girl start pissing throughout the animation.  Love it when PN kicks in during "animations".

[DeepBlueFrog]

Probably noob to ask, but is choosing "submit" considered consensual? For example, if I used Lovers Victim, would it say I was raped and give the debuff? And in Sexlab's Sex Diary? I'd kinda like to have less choice in the matter, even though punishment can happen for saying no (presumably...haven't tried the new version yet). My favorite thing about the original SD was that your owner could just take you whenever (s)he wanted.

 

Submit is considered consensual. Resist rebelious and may or may not result in forced sex anyway.

Being submissive gets you out of punishments faster while being rebelious reduces the effects of slavery once you are released.

 

And I remember having mixed results when using jbezorg's Wear n' Tear. Sometimes being raped (?) in SD+ would give some tear, and sometimes it wouldn't register. Is that an SD thing? I'm pretty sure, if memory serves correctly, that other mods had the expected results (like LV). Anyone using both SD and W&T and know the answer to this?

 

I can't answer that.. I ditched Wear and Tear for SexLab Attributes recently.

 

Also, has any Private Needs support been added yet? I usually spend most of my slavery pissing myself...

 

Afraid not... I am not using Private Needs and I have too much to work on right not to make this a priority.

Besides, I already have iNeed and Bathing in Skyrim, and that's as much micro-management as I can handle  

 

However, that can be quite an interesting spice when being anally raped and seeing my girl start pissing throughout the animation.  Love it when PN kicks in during "animations".

 

[DesertPonderer]

Do you ever plan to release an optional patch to bring back leashing where your character would walk back towards your owner, for those who want it?