Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[GregariousGibbon]

I just wanted to say skyrimll... you are awesome. Not only for the various mods that you continue to update, but also the support you give for your mods as well. I check your threads every now and then, and you help at least 3 people on every page, and even take on board peoples' requests for new features.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I just wanted to say skyrimll... you are awesome. Not only for the various mods that you continue to update, but also the support you give for your mods as well. I check your threads every now and then, and you help at least 3 people on every page, and even take on board peoples' requests for new features.

 

Thanks

 

Sometimes I wish I could just put everything on hold for six months and get everything I have planned done.

[Nazzzgul666]

With a mod as famous like this, you could simply try not to answer/read for some time and expect that other users answer at least some of the questions, at least some days without your help should work, although i agree of course with GregariousGibbon, you are awesome

But if you answer less, that won't change my opinion

 

And while i'm flattering around, i'd also want to say thanks to CliftonJD, i have the feeling he answered half of my questions on LL, no matter in which thread, you're awesome too:)

[DeepBlueFrog]

With a mod as famous like this, you could simply try not to answer/read for some time and expect that other users answer at least some of the questions, at least some days without your help should work, although i agree of course with GregariousGibbon, you are awesome

But if you answer less, that won't change my opinion

 

And while i'm flattering around, i'd also want to say thanks to CliftonJD, i have the feeling he answered half of my questions on LL, no matter in which thread, you're awesome too:)

As a matter of fact, CliftonJD has been my backup many times and did a fine job at that, so thanks from me as well.

[CliftonJD]

 

I just wanted to say skyrimll... you are awesome. Not only for the various mods that you continue to update, but also the support you give for your mods as well. I check your threads every now and then, and you help at least 3 people on every page, and even take on board peoples' requests for new features.

 

Thanks

 

Sometimes I wish I could just put everything on hold for six months and get everything I have planned done.

 

 

 

With a mod as famous like this, you could simply try not to answer/read for some time and expect that other users answer at least some of the questions, at least some days without your help should work, although i agree of course with GregariousGibbon, you are awesome

But if you answer less, that won't change my opinion

 

And while i'm flattering around, i'd also want to say thanks to CliftonJD, i have the feeling he answered half of my questions on LL, no matter in which thread, you're awesome too:)

 

alright, cool, love your mods

I've found far too often a good mod will either get too many support requests and overwhelm the author or a good author will stick with it, but not find the time to fix or update what needs fixing .....

gonna cut my quote short there, basically if experienced users can help fix the setup of the mod, he has more time to fix the real bugs and/or make new content

 

With a mod as famous like this, you could simply try not to answer/read for some time and expect that other users answer at least some of the questions, at least some days without your help should work, although i agree of course with GregariousGibbon, you are awesome

But if you answer less, that won't change my opinion

 

And while i'm flattering around, i'd also want to say thanks to CliftonJD, i have the feeling he answered half of my questions on LL, no matter in which thread, you're awesome too:)

As a matter of fact, CliftonJD has been my backup many times and did a fine job at that, so thanks from me as well.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Speaking of updates... I am currently testing Frostfall 3.0 compatiblity and a new system of joined factions during enslavement (with expiration date).

Basically, every new faction joined during enslavement will expire after a certain number of days of freedom if you accept to join your master.

 

That will not resolve all faction issues but it should reduce them a lot and set the stage for a better faction management.

For example, now that I have a list, I could show the list of factions to allow you to abort them earlier if needed.

[CliftonJD]

sounds good

 

[Krynn]

Hi @ll! :-)

 

First, sorry for my bad english please, i am from Austria! :-)

 

I have a Problem and hope anyone could help me.. im using SD+ 2044 and the Patches looks here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1386-sanguine%E2%80%99s-debauchery-patches/

 

My Problem is: i always become the Error Message: LookupDivece invalid keyword [Keyword <_SD_ DeviousArmbinder sB00CAEF]

and.. other Devices too..

What can i do to fix that? :-(

 

PS: I have installed Devious Devices, Expansion and so on... hmm as Exemple: Captured Dreams Shop works good and other Mods like Mia's Lair or Deviously Helpless or Slaverun reloadet,.. all works, but this one not really.. :-(

 

 

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi @ll! :-)

 

First, sorry for my bad english please, i am from Austria! :-)

 

I have a Problem and hope anyone could help me.. im using SD+ 2044 and the Patches looks here:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1386-sanguine%E2%80%99s-debauchery-patches/

 

My Problem is: i always become the Error Message: LookupDivece invalid keyword [Keyword <_SD_ DeviousArmbinder sB00CAEF]

and.. other Devices too..

What can i do to fix that? :-(

 

PS: I have installed Devious Devices, Expansion and so on... hmm as Exemple: Captured Dreams Shop works good and other Mods like Mia's Lair or Deviously Helpless or Slaverun reloadet,.. all works, but this one not really.. :-(

 

You should ask this question on the page of the patches (the link you posted).

 

Both SD and Devious Devices have greatly evolved since version 2.0 and these patches.

SD 2.0 was designed for a different version of Devious Devices that doesn't exist anymore.

 

My recommendation would be to upgrade SD+ to the latest version, make sure Devious Devices is updated to the latest version as well and delete all scripts starting with _sd in you Data/Scripts folder.

[Krynn]

Oke, thank you.. SD is oke, but i hate that the SDPlus342 version needs SexLab_Dialogues.. but im trying again..

 

Thanks!

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Oke, thank you.. SD is oke, but i hate that the SDPlus342 version needs SexLab_Dialogues.. but im trying again..

 

Thanks!

Something wrong with Dialogues?

[Zor2k13]

Well I can't become slave of a follower like housecarl or other followers because they are on player team? I get some CRDE error when I finally get lydia to try and enslave my pc with sex.

 

Can there be some light form of enslavement for pc to followers/housecarls? They don't put an armbinder on but they have some kind of sexy dialogue for housecarl blah blah you get it right? Kind of like submissive lola but not as public so they can demand that you both return home and the player has to submit to their housecarl for a while before they can go out again but it will check to make sure that a major quest is not running or time sensitive thing is not going on before forcing that dialogue.

[Morferous]

Oke, thank you.. SD is oke, but i hate that the SDPlus342 version needs SexLab_Dialogues.. but im trying again..

 

Thanks!

Use MCM to disable dialogues that you do not need. The amount of added lines is very small in that point.

 

Something wrong with Dialogues?

 

I am actually coming out of my modding burnout. Going trough SL Dialogues gave me few ideas that may start to work with, when my RL issues have cooled down.

 

Maybe. The problem is that - like when I was modding other games - just pondering trough what I could create makes me to jump from one idea to another. That is what dropped me out: too many half-finished mods to games, while I was getting anxious to already work with a new one.

 

But, I have learned my les... *Ooh. Shiny ones* ...son.

[chipstick]

Speaking of updates... I am currently testing Frostfall 3.0 compatiblity and a new system of joined factions during enslavement (with expiration date).

Basically, every new faction joined during enslavement will expire after a certain number of days of freedom if you accept to join your master.

 

That will not resolve all faction issues but it should reduce them a lot and set the stage for a better faction management.

For example, now that I have a list, I could show the list of factions to allow you to abort them earlier if needed.

 

That sounds like a pretty good solution to me regarding the factions. Also, I had just installed the current version of SD+ into my current playthrough (like, all of 2 hours ago). If the new version requires a clean save, I'll probably just revert back to a preinstall game and await the upcoming version.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Speaking of updates... I am currently testing Frostfall 3.0 compatiblity and a new system of joined factions during enslavement (with expiration date).

Basically, every new faction joined during enslavement will expire after a certain number of days of freedom if you accept to join your master.

 

That will not resolve all faction issues but it should reduce them a lot and set the stage for a better faction management.

For example, now that I have a list, I could show the list of factions to allow you to abort them earlier if needed.

That sounds like a pretty good solution to me regarding the factions. Also, I had just installed the current version of SD+ into my current playthrough (like, all of 2 hours ago). If the new version requires a clean save, I'll probably just revert back to a preinstall game and await the upcoming version.

It won't require a new save.

[chipstick]

 

It won't require a new save.

 

 

Thank you for letting me know . I'll just continue on then.

[CliftonJD]

Well I can't become slave of a follower like housecarl or other followers because they are on player team? I get some CRDE error when I finally get lydia to try and enslave my pc with sex.

 

Can there be some light form of enslavement for pc to followers/housecarls? They don't put an armbinder on but they have some kind of sexy dialogue for housecarl blah blah you get it right? Kind of like submissive lola but not as public so they can demand that you both return home and the player has to submit to their housecarl for a while before they can go out again but it will check to make sure that a major quest is not running or time sensitive thing is not going on before forcing that dialogue.

that error is from "deviously enslaved"---another mod that's able to use sd

unless there's been some drastic change regarding this you only need to wear a collar from devious devices to get the dialog required to activate sd on its own (assuming also you've installed sl dialogs)

something along the lines of "I need a hand to guide me...." should be available to most any npc's, followers are usually a sure hit

[Zor2k13]

Yeah thats submissive lola mod but when you use it on a follower you can just ask to be let go at any time. Using that dialogue on a non follower or a follower that is not yet a follower like uthgerd will get the sd enslaved stuff going. I like how if the character wears a slave collar everyone talks trash to them.

[leddis3]

Okay so it seems no matter what my character won't ever kneel or crawl when she should. At best I get the vanilla bleedout animation when "pushed down to the ground" (which always looks terrible in an armbinder).

I have everything required up to date, ran FNIS, etc.

 

The only time kneeling has ever worked is if my character is wearing cuffs and the armbinder kneeling option is on (seems counter-intuitive since cuffs aren't armbinders).

I realise that apparently some armbinders don't work with it, but my character won't kneel with hands free either. Needless to say, the kneel/crawl dialog options don't work either.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Okay so it seems no matter what my character won't ever kneel or crawl when she should. At best I get the vanilla bleedout animation when "pushed down to the ground" (which always looks terrible in an armbinder).

I have everything required up to date, ran FNIS, etc.

 

The only time kneeling has ever worked is if my character is wearing cuffs and the armbinder kneeling option is on (seems counter-intuitive since cuffs aren't armbinders).

I realise that apparently some armbinders don't work with it, but my character won't kneel with hands free either. Needless to say, the kneel/crawl dialog options don't work either.

 

Automatic kneeling only works with the iron cuffs equipped during slavery.

They are considered armbinders because of the scripts used by Devious Devices.

 

I disabled kneeling with leather armbinders because of conflicts with other armbinder specific animations.

 

I also found a bug where leather arminbinders would be equiped instead of iron cuffs. That is fixed in the next version.

[leddis3]

 

Okay so it seems no matter what my character won't ever kneel or crawl when she should. At best I get the vanilla bleedout animation when "pushed down to the ground" (which always looks terrible in an armbinder).

I have everything required up to date, ran FNIS, etc.

 

The only time kneeling has ever worked is if my character is wearing cuffs and the armbinder kneeling option is on (seems counter-intuitive since cuffs aren't armbinders).

I realise that apparently some armbinders don't work with it, but my character won't kneel with hands free either. Needless to say, the kneel/crawl dialog options don't work either.

 

Automatic kneeling only works with the iron cuffs equipped during slavery.

They are considered armbinders because of the scripts used by Devious Devices.

 

I disabled kneeling with leather armbinders because of conflicts with other armbinder specific animations.

 

I also found a bug where leather arminbinders would be equiped instead of iron cuffs. That is fixed in the next version.

 

 

I see. Same deal with crawling I assume?

If so it would be nice if there was a dialog to request your owner to bind your hands again after asking to be released (I mean if you're of the mindset to *want* to kneel you mind desire to be bound too for a time right?)

[CliftonJD]

Yeah thats submissive lola mod but when you use it on a follower you can just ask to be let go at any time. Using that dialogue on a non follower or a follower that is not yet a follower like uthgerd will get the sd enslaved stuff going. I like how if the character wears a slave collar everyone talks trash to them.

no, that dialog is from sd....

if submissive lola uses the same dialog then using it is causing the conflicts between the 2 mods or atleast for that dialog and that'd be why you had to talk to a non-follower to get it working again

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Okay so it seems no matter what my character won't ever kneel or crawl when she should. At best I get the vanilla bleedout animation when "pushed down to the ground" (which always looks terrible in an armbinder).

I have everything required up to date, ran FNIS, etc.

 

The only time kneeling has ever worked is if my character is wearing cuffs and the armbinder kneeling option is on (seems counter-intuitive since cuffs aren't armbinders).

I realise that apparently some armbinders don't work with it, but my character won't kneel with hands free either. Needless to say, the kneel/crawl dialog options don't work either.

Automatic kneeling only works with the iron cuffs equipped during slavery.

They are considered armbinders because of the scripts used by Devious Devices.

 

I disabled kneeling with leather armbinders because of conflicts with other armbinder specific animations.

 

I also found a bug where leather arminbinders would be equiped instead of iron cuffs. That is fixed in the next version.

I see. Same deal with crawling I assume?

If so it would be nice if there was a dialog to request your owner to bind your hands again after asking to be released (I mean if you're of the mindset to *want* to kneel you mind desire to be bound too for a time right?)

There should be on under Master? And May I?

[leddis3]

 

 

 

Okay so it seems no matter what my character won't ever kneel or crawl when she should. At best I get the vanilla bleedout animation when "pushed down to the ground" (which always looks terrible in an armbinder).

I have everything required up to date, ran FNIS, etc.

 

The only time kneeling has ever worked is if my character is wearing cuffs and the armbinder kneeling option is on (seems counter-intuitive since cuffs aren't armbinders).

I realise that apparently some armbinders don't work with it, but my character won't kneel with hands free either. Needless to say, the kneel/crawl dialog options don't work either.

Automatic kneeling only works with the iron cuffs equipped during slavery.

They are considered armbinders because of the scripts used by Devious Devices.

 

I disabled kneeling with leather armbinders because of conflicts with other armbinder specific animations.

 

I also found a bug where leather arminbinders would be equiped instead of iron cuffs. That is fixed in the next version.

I see. Same deal with crawling I assume?

If so it would be nice if there was a dialog to request your owner to bind your hands again after asking to be released (I mean if you're of the mindset to *want* to kneel you mind desire to be bound too for a time right?)

There should be on under Master? And May I?

 

 

Oh is there? I don't seem to have the option. Is it something that appears at slavery level 5 or 6? I haven't gotten beyond 4 currently.

Sorry for being dumb I just haven't seen it.

 

Edit: Manually changed my level to 6 and still don't see any arm binding options under "May I?"

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

I see. Same deal with crawling I assume?

If so it would be nice if there was a dialog to request your owner to bind your hands again after asking to be released (I mean if you're of the mindset to *want* to kneel you mind desire to be bound too for a time right?)

There should be on under Master? And May I?

 

 

Oh is there? I don't seem to have the option. Is it something that appears at slavery level 5 or 6? I haven't gotten beyond 4 currently.

Sorry for being dumb I just haven't seen it.

 

 

 

No problem... I haven't been very clear on how or when to expect it.

 

It is probably triggered by level 5 or above. I will check the conditions for that topic again.