Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Pinute]

IMO mods like Aroused, pregnancy or other "needs" type of mods, which constantly check for certain variables strain the game way too much. They no doubt add to immersion but you lose performance and risk the game's stability. Less scripts means happier gaming I'd say and hate to say it but SD is already one major contributor to script load.

 

Yeah, I've already dropped Footprints, Wet and Cold, and Frostfall from my SL based play.

 

SexLab is becoming more of an ecosystem rather than a just a framework - most newer mods are already being built aroundSexLab, Devious Devices and/or SL Aroused. I'm pretty comfortable assuming that the majority of people installing SL Framework are also installing the other two, so leveraging what's becoming a default install is a no brainer.

 

The hope I have is that more and more of that core functionality can be pushed into skse dlls, which, as I understand it, are much lighter than papyrus. The last contact I had with C was in the K&R era so I'm not the one do explore that avenue

[magnusx]

I can't enter status or anything.

 

how many real time u waited to quit the game because it dont works? it has happened to me but i wait a bit on game, let MCM refresh it self, open mcm, close, wait like 1 or 2 mins and open again, if it dont works refresh it via console typing setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1 then wait to it to refresh.

[Skyrimdude]

Do you have any plans to have SD+ use followers? Sometimes it frustrates me when the new master is having his way with my pc and then my follower is trying to cave his face in with a battleaxe! I'd much rather have us both bound and subdued and the master use both in turn. Possibly even force them to fuck each other for his amusement.

[Ermiz]

 

Estrus chaurus compatibility is working.

 

Even if you can't talk to them both falmers and chaurus react to your presence and grope you or spit chaurus venom.

 

 

Really? I've never been able to get them to react at all. Is there a requirement for it to happen?

[Redflyingmonkey]

Hey man ! Running into a little issue that kinds of breaks the mod now for me ahaha... It was fixed in 1'08 but it popped up again in the latest version. Like, NPCs hitting me after I've been enslaved and collared, as if I didn't join their faction, is it a conflict with SkyRe ? Can't try the full mod yet if I don't kill all of the NPCs apart from the one who'll enslave me, and it wouldn't be such a problem if I didn't miss most of the mods new functionalities because of that :/

[magnusx]

I guess is kind of luck, it happened to me in 1.8 but in the moment it happened or they continued hitting my char y saved and reloaded, then it triggered the enslavement, guess that is because the amount of scripts running by at the same time, i use skyre too, soured makes ur health lowers gradually,maybe it haves somrhing to do too

[Redflyingmonkey]

Oh that may be it ! Or it could be one of the cloak effects I have from aroused/lovers victim/wet and cold/SOS too ...

[Redflyingmonkey]

Plus the load option is locked in combat so I can't do much except quit the game when it happens : x (sorry for the double post, no edit option on the phone version of LL)

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hey man ! Running into a little issue that kinds of breaks the mod now for me ahaha... It was fixed in 1'08 but it popped up again in the latest version. Like, NPCs hitting me after I've been enslaved and collared, as if I didn't join their faction, is it a conflict with SkyRe ? Can't try the full mod yet if I don't kill all of the NPCs apart from the one who'll enslave me, and it wouldn't be such a problem if I didn't miss most of the mods new functionalities because of that :/

 

That's my current priority based on everybody's feedback.

I am working on making the enslavement scene bulletproof.

[Redflyingmonkey]

Make it Sarahjessicaparkerproof man ! Good luck (Edit : holy mother of god there IS an edit option actually, my dumbness is over 9000.)

[majordespair]

dunno if this has been reported or not or whether I got conflict, but when I enter sangs realm ( got in by being really bad to owner) im getting spammed with iron chastity belts and cuffs dropping in front of the character. spawns me there, drops stuff in front of me, fades to black, fades back up drops more stuff, and repeats to inifinity. thought it maybe conflict with devious devices , but I have no restraint from that mod equipped. I tried the dd-sd1 patch but still getting same result.

[DeepBlueFrog]

dunno if this has been reported or not or whether I got conflict, but when I enter sangs realm ( got in by being really bad to owner) im getting spammed with iron chastity belts and cuffs dropping in front of the character. spawns me there, drops stuff in front of me, fades to black, fades back up drops more stuff, and repeats to inifinity. thought it maybe conflict with devious devices , but I have no restraint from that mod equipped. I tried the dd-sd1 patch but still getting same result.

 

That happened to me once when I had Skyrealism weight control on with automatic drop of overweight items.

 

The new schackles were added automatically, dropped because they put me over my weight limit and were added again and dropped again... and so on.

 

Could it be something like that happening for you?

 

I had to turn off automatic drop to fix it.

[majordespair]

 

dunno if this has been reported or not or whether I got conflict, but when I enter sangs realm ( got in by being really bad to owner) im getting spammed with iron chastity belts and cuffs dropping in front of the character. spawns me there, drops stuff in front of me, fades to black, fades back up drops more stuff, and repeats to inifinity. thought it maybe conflict with devious devices , but I have no restraint from that mod equipped. I tried the dd-sd1 patch but still getting same result.

 

That happened to me once when I had Skyrealism weight control on with automatic drop of overweight items.

 

The new schackles were added automatically, dropped because they put me over my weight limit and were added again and dropped again... and so on.

 

Could it be something like that happening for you?

 

I had to turn off automatic drop to fix it.

 

 

hmm no don't have any carry weight changing mods...oh w8..i think lovers victim may put a debuff on you after rape that lowers carry w8...will look into it and report back now I got an idea what to look for

 

edit : nope not that, got 3/260 carry weight when sent. would being werewolf break it? not in wolf form obviously.

 

[Vith]

Whelp, guess what, I ALMOST got coveted to work again!
But not quite yet.
If they comment on me being naked when I wear clothes, the message "Target is not the player" turns up on the left. (And nothing happens, of course.)

Random teleportation works quite well, I was kinda surprised when I turnd up right in front of a falmer dungeon, hehe.
Otherwise, latest version is quite stable for me - only ctd'd once when entering Sanguines Realm - and.. and he even did some haterapin'! (Not because of nakedness.)

 

Ah, also, if I get enslaved, the master just repeats "lets not talk about this anymore" (Or similiar - i play in my native language). Everything else works fine. I also have had that bug where the NPC would rather beat his slave to death, lol.
 

[The_Wandering_1]

I can't get the mod working.

[CGi]

 

I can't get the mod working.

And now what?
Sorry, but what you wrote is not helping in any kind narrowing down the source of the problem you're experiencing.
Please be more specific about when it stops working or what is not working and post your load order and papyrus log [! Both inside spoiler tags !].

[xboronx]

Possible Bugs:

 

-After getting enslaved by a bandit group i talked to another Bandit and asked to become her slave. I like this idea, but it was too easy, my former master accepted this.

During the owner change he attacked me for 1-2 seconds, but then was peaceful and the other bandit became my new owner.

 

-Begging for food/drink sometimes spawns nothing.

Here's the position i asked for food, not sure if it falls into nirvana when it doesn't work.

 

-Asking a bandit for sex when indentured servant started she was shown in a hogtied pose or another bondage pose for some seconds, nothing else happened.

 

-When i slept for 4 hours afterwards the quest indentured servant failed, so you have a time limit for this quest?

 

-Asking the same bandit for sex via SD dialogue without indentured servant running nothing happened.

 

-The orc bandit master was too passive. He just followed me when i tried to escape, but when i left the mine and entered Skyrim again he went back to the mine and i could simply flee. Relation was constantly dropping while fleeing, so this works well.

 

-Once the flee countdown was over all bindings expect the collar were removed. I have hardcore mode enabled. 2 days ago with 1.08 i was left bound and had to ask a blacksmith to get free. Seemed more appropriate at least for the hardcore mode.

 

-You can ask not only the master for food/drink, but also others from his faction.

 

 

Praise:

 

-Not sure if it is your work or Jbezorgs, but it seems you included a modified frostfall warmup animation, my char stood up while warming up and went back on knees afterwards, but the hands kept being tied behind back, so no glitching. Very nice.

 

-One time master gave me some drug or skooma when asking for drink. Hard to tell what it was exactly since you can't access the magic status menu, nice surprise.

 

Suggestion:

 

-You said you plan to include more SL aroused support. I laughed quite a bit when my master slept in his bed and when he woke up he was masturbating because of SL aroused. Hope you can override the aroused script somehow that he uses you in this situation instead of masturbating.

 

 

P.S.: Hope you don't get discouraged, each version definitely is at least some improvement. Also i like how you do frequent updates currently to SD+, very much like e.g. Dktaryl frequently updates Submit. You must start to feel like sisyphos, maybe we could encourage you by starting betting by which version SD+ will be what you yourself consider stable enough. I'm still optimistic and bet it will be version 1.15.

[JahReit]

Having problems with  indentured servant part, or might be how it is.  The indentured quest only last a few minutes with not much chance getting much if any gold, then fails.  There is never that quest option again.  Can't think this is deliberate so my guess is a bug or mod conflict?  Also the dance ends and my PC falls to the ground to masturbate.  What the hell?  It's suppose to be an all out gangbang-train party, or so I thought.  When she finishes pleasing herself, 1, 2 and rarely 3 bandits decide to make a pitiful train.

 

On a pleasant note, SD+ is still my favorite mod.  Uninstalled 2 other great mods just to make this one work (script issues).  To say you've done an outstanding job doesn't really do enough justice.  I think you deserve the Noble Prize instead of that President.  Of course you have done lots and he did nothing

 

 

[zaira]

The quest to pay for freedom fails allways because whenever I collect gold the owner removes it immediately although the quest is running. The text option to give money is also not present and after a few minutes the quest fails. There is no way to collect gold.

 

And in the past the bindings was released during the quest - this is also defunct.

 

And I get no option to join owners faction when demerits is below -50 although he notifies it and says that its time to release ownership. So the only way to get free is to kill the owner, steal the key or to flee.

 

I have installed AFT - can this be the reason for problems?

[Surrealism]

I'm having a couple of small problems so far after using this mod for the first time over the regular SD. The first problem is that I don't see any whip marks after whipping scenes. Maybe that's an already known problem. The 2nd is the more annoying one >.<. If my owner gets into combat after I'm enslaved, when they come back, they don't do anything but stand around even when scenes are supposed to happen. I just watched my bandit owner chase a moose around in circles for several minutes before giving up and coming back, also happened when I was enslaved by forsworn and the owner was attacking something I never got a visual on. The glow effect comes on, but the owner just stands there looking at me. Anyone have any input on these problems or advice?

 

Good mod though

[zaira]

PS: having the master following me is not very interesting if he dont give some orders - for example to prostitute, to collect items, to dance naked in public, or to move to special places...

The mod msex veronica is a very good example how to make this relationship much more interesting without heavy scripting

[Guest]

The quest to pay for freedom fails allways because whenever I collect gold the owner removes it immediately although the quest is running. The text option to give money is also not present and after a few minutes the quest fails. There is no way to collect gold.

 

And in the past the bindings was released during the quest - this is also defunct.

 

And I get no option to join owners faction when demerits is below -50 although he notifies it and says that its time to release ownership. So the only way to get free is to kill the owner, steal the key or to flee.

 

I have installed AFT - can this be the reason for problems?

 

I believe you have to remain enslaved for 3 days before you're release as well as have your demerits below -50, the binding aren't released initially because your trust isn't high enough yet later on you'll be released from your bindings. 

 

I have the same problem with the money issue as well as not being able to hand items over to owner.

[zaira]

 

 

I believe you have to remain enslaved for 3 days before you're release as well as have your demerits below -50, the binding aren't released initially because your trust isn't high enough yet later on you'll be released from your bindings. 

 

I have the same problem with the money issue as well as not being able to hand items over to owner.

 

Ok - I didn't wait 3 days. Just because the relationship is very static. The master should provide some random orders to make slavery not so annoying boring. One order could be a forced change of ownership (sell the slave) or earning money or...

[CGi]

Random owner switch was actually part of the original SD ... even tho i never had it happen to my toon.
So if the code is still in there, maybe skyrimll can tweak it a bit to raise it's chance.

[Kalaxus]

I just now found this and am throwing it in mod manager and just disabling the old SD and its patches and praying that it works.  It may be nuts but clean installs are for squares!