Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Goonorrhea]

Hey, great modm glad to see ZaZ animations back.  Works great mostly, do get the occasional CTD but I've come to expect it at this point.

 

Something I want to point out though: I've noticed gags/anal beads/blindfolds missing from 1.08.  They worked fine for me in 1.05, but even with a fresh save in 1.08 I have not once been gagged.  I even playtested this, intentionally accumulating demerits and triggering punishments, but even after I'm at over 50 demerits, still no gag. (And getting 50 demerits actually takes a while when forced dances sending your demerits well into the other direction) .  You would think after insulting my master 20+ times he might eventually try to shut me up .   On a side note not a huge fan of the no ZaZ punishments for 2 days in 1.08a. I'm usually bored and trying to escape well before that.  Any chance of bumping that down to 1 day at least?

 

 

Also 

 

 

Old bugs I spotted in old versions, might have been fixed and/or might be mod conficts:

 

If you get enslaved, pick up a weapon, you lose your enslave faction, but you don't use your weapon to cut your bindings anymore, so you couldn't use the weapon anyway. Also, if you then get re-enslaved, the owner will have two keys. Once, I looted one key and saw my pickpocket percentage rise, heard the equip/unequipe noise, but when I left the pickpocket screen my bindings were still on, and I was unable to use spells/weapons.

 

I've noticed the same thing, but turns out it's just kind of laggy, like how long it takes for people to stop attacking once enslaved. Run around for a minute  or two and try to survive, they should come off eventually. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Ok... version 1.09a is available. 

 

This one is still missing gags and blinds. I haven't got to fixing them yet.

[vandana.ghost]

 

I've been having trouble with vampires. They attack me with that ranged blood-drain attack they have and it doesn't matter how many times I hit the surrender key, they never start the Enslaved quest. They just drain / attack me until I die.

 

At first I thought this was a problem with mixed NPC / Creature fights, where the vampire or necromancer would get confused as their draugr / skeleton lackeys would get the "overcome by lust" thing while they were trying to enslave me, but I fought just a single "blooded vampire" and she also straight-up refused to enslave me.

 

In general I have no trouble with bandits and the like, but necromancers / vampires / undead really don't like taking slaves I guess...

 

How far away were you from them?

 

I added a safety range for magic attacks. They will enslave you only if your attacker is next to you.

 

 

that might well be it. To answer another poster, yeah, I have the Dawnguard patch checked in the SD MCM menu, but because the draugr / skeletons / whatever knock me down, the vampire can stay at range with the attack, and doesn't close quarters to enslave me. 

 

At least now I know there's a reason

[Plaguetard]

Having the issue where bandits just continue to attack me after I get the pop up that my PC was stripped and gagged and drops to her knees. They attack until I die. I've read three other people have this issue but I was not seeing any responses as to a solution. Any ideas?

[Guest]

Alright thanks for the heads up and also just a suggestion could there be more dance animations added in for Coin for the Wicked? Anyway you're doing an awesome job the progress you're making is amazing I hardly ever crash now since the recent updates cheers

 

Oh and did you say that you were going to make devious devices as a punishment item?

[KGRam]

Been testing your mod, kind of getting a feel for it, and love what you have done so far.  As I install the new releases, I sometimes start a new game, just for kicks.  One thing I have noticed, I guess cause I'm not the swiftest horse in the barn, the dependency of your frostfall patch does not alert me as I am used to seeing with other mods.  Basically, I have started the last three games with this patch active by default NMM install, but I don't have Frostfall (DOH).  If you had the master dependency on your patch, then I would have caught the problem in wryebash.  So, if you have the spare few minutes, maybe you could add that master to the patch, just to save dummies like me from wasting an hour on a new game start.  I tried just removing it, but it spams crap in my log anyway.  I will try and fuel you with any bugs I see, but I can tell you have a good group of bug catchers here as it is.  Cheers )

[DeepBlueFrog]

Been testing your mod, kind of getting a feel for it, and love what you have done so far.  As I install the new releases, I sometimes start a new game, just for kicks.  One thing I have noticed, I guess cause I'm not the swiftest horse in the barn, the dependency of your frostfall patch does not alert me as I am used to seeing with other mods.  Basically, I have started the last three games with this patch active by default NMM install, but I don't have Frostfall (DOH).  If you had the master dependency on your patch, then I would have caught the problem in wryebash.  So, if you have the spare few minutes, maybe you could add that master to the patch, just to save dummies like me from wasting an hour on a new game start.  I tried just removing it, but it spams crap in my log anyway.  I will try and fuel you with any bugs I see, but I can tell you have a good group of bug catchers here as it is.  Cheers )

 

I looked at the add-on and somehow, Zaz animation pack was made a required master and Frostfall was not.

I just changed that and the new dependency will be available in the next update.

Thanks for pointing that out.

[DeepBlueFrog]

A heads up.

 

I took note of the comments about Devious Devices and I will approach better integration with SD+ as an optional add-on.

 

However, I am considering making SexLab aroused a full dependency.

 

In upcoming versions, SexLab aroused will be required in order to get SD to work.

 

SD has its own lust system that I would like to bring over to Aroused mechanics instead.

That will allow me to do things like control better Sanguine's arousal, or add increases to arousal for the PC from interaction with Master and other NPCs. Among other things, that will allow more diverse responses than sex or punishment and do things like having your master tweak your nipple or tease your cock to arouse you and then let you go without release as punishment. Or maybe enable a dialogue for permission to come if arousal is high enough

[Guest]

A heads up.

 

I took note of the comments about Devious Devices and I will approach better integration with SD+ as an optional add-on.

 

However, I am considering making SexLab aroused a full dependency.

 

In upcoming versions, SexLab aroused will be required in order to get SD to work.

 

SD has its own lust system that I would like to bring over to Aroused mechanics instead.

That will allow me to do things like control better Sanguine's arousal, or add increases to arousal for the PC from interaction with Master and other NPCs. Among other things, that will allow more diverse responses than sex or punishment and do things like having your master tweak your nipple or tease your cock to arouse you and then let you go without release as punishment. Or maybe enable a dialogue for permission to come if arousal is high enough

 

Would love to see this integrated and finished I love the idea of DD devices being forced on you instead of putting them on yourself.

[shinji72]

A heads up.

 

I took note of the comments about Devious Devices and I will approach better integration with SD+ as an optional add-on.

 

However, I am considering making SexLab aroused a full dependency.

 

In upcoming versions, SexLab aroused will be required in order to get SD to work.

 

SD has its own lust system that I would like to bring over to Aroused mechanics instead.

That will allow me to do things like control better Sanguine's arousal, or add increases to arousal for the PC from interaction with Master and other NPCs. Among other things, that will allow more diverse responses than sex or punishment and do things like having your master tweak your nipple or tease your cock to arouse you and then let you go without release as punishment. Or maybe enable a dialogue for permission to come if arousal is high enough

 

I'm a bit skeptical about Aroused. It's a papyrus load because it's scanning around for arousal level (although only in interior cells).

Then the arousal system is quite crude. Basically the more naked people or sex scene you see, the more you get aroused. 

Now I dont' think this would be the case for a woman watching naked daedra raping her friends.

Sure, especially with the new features, it suit better a male/predator PC playthrough (because takes in account the need for sex, like adding sex to realistic needs and disease). But from a victim PC? Dunno. Sure, there are others NPC getting aroused because you are naked, but it seems there is quite a lot of sex going on already!   

[Kuロi]

I have a question : If I were to install this, but never continued a game  after being enslaved, would it still put my save at risk? For example, I get enslaved, have some fun for a while, then reload before the fight where I got enslaved (and preferable don't die this time), Am I still risking heavy papyrus spam that way ?

[magnusx]

 

A heads up.

 

I took note of the comments about Devious Devices and I will approach better integration with SD+ as an optional add-on.

 

However, I am considering making SexLab aroused a full dependency.

 

In upcoming versions, SexLab aroused will be required in order to get SD to work.

 

SD has its own lust system that I would like to bring over to Aroused mechanics instead.

That will allow me to do things like control better Sanguine's arousal, or add increases to arousal for the PC from interaction with Master and other NPCs. Among other things, that will allow more diverse responses than sex or punishment and do things like having your master tweak your nipple or tease your cock to arouse you and then let you go without release as punishment. Or maybe enable a dialogue for permission to come if arousal is high enough

 

I'm a bit skeptical about Aroused. It's a papyrus load because it's scanning around for arousal level (although only in interior cells).

Then the arousal system is quite crude. Basically the more naked people or sex scene you see, the more you get aroused. 

Now I dont' think this would be the case for a woman watching naked daedra raping her friends.

Sure, especially with the new features, it suit better a male/predator PC playthrough (because takes in account the need for sex, like adding sex to realistic needs and disease). But from a victim PC? Dunno. Sure, there are others NPC getting aroused because you are naked, but it seems there is quite a lot of sex going on already!   

 

 

I agree with the opinion but the Sanguine Debauchery i thin, my personal view is that ur character is being corrupted by Sanguine, so , the arousal will come to show how aroused and corrupted ur PC will be, actually my char has been enslaved and her arousal makes her to improve 10% less all the skills, but out of enslavement she is a good girl fighting the need of sex, sometimes she drops to ground masturbating herself because she cant hold it anymore, so, I´m looking forward to the aroused integration, and about aroused, i used to have 2 followers, once all of the 3 where enslaved, obviously SD dont mannages the abuse of the followers, but I had aroused installed, so, after 4 days of enslavement and abuse of my character my followers began to have sex between them (uthgerd (of bijin of course) and erik the slayer) i guess that because of the high levels of arousethe 3 naked and player abused in front of them, but only between them, because for the master or other npcs around looks like the only char that exist is the player, I tried to make them victims of abuse with Random Sex Mod for SexLab  but no luck even setting it to higer levels to  happens, seem like they are in other time space and they arent there, but between them (if more than 1, even i was hoping that one of the followers abused my character but dint too happened, i made large amount of test to see the behavior, I'm just saying this for the time when the followers be tweaked in your work Skyrimll, thnx for ur time dedicadet to improve this mod. 

[magnusx]

I have a question : If I were to install this, but never continued a game  after being enslaved, would it still put my save at risk? For example, I get enslaved, have some fun for a while, then reload before the fight where I got enslaved (and preferable don't die this time), Am I still risking heavy papyrus spam that way ?

 

I have had bad experiences making that, i preffer to quit game and then reload the previous save to the enslavement, wa happened to me when i reloaded without quiting was the following: after enslavement it got buggy and preffer to not die this time i reload and win, the next time i engaged (time after and a playtroght advanced) I saw that the mod dont triggers, even worse u cant die, how to fix it? uninstall SD or return to previous save (quiting game of course) my experience with that, can be diferent i guess.

[magnusx]

 

A heads up.

 

I took note of the comments about Devious Devices and I will approach better integration with SD+ as an optional add-on.

 

However, I am considering making SexLab aroused a full dependency.

 

In upcoming versions, SexLab aroused will be required in order to get SD to work.

 

SD has its own lust system that I would like to bring over to Aroused mechanics instead.

That will allow me to do things like control better Sanguine's arousal, or add increases to arousal for the PC from interaction with Master and other NPCs. Among other things, that will allow more diverse responses than sex or punishment and do things like having your master tweak your nipple or tease your cock to arouse you and then let you go without release as punishment. Or maybe enable a dialogue for permission to come if arousal is high enough

 

Would love to see this integrated and finished I love the idea of DD devices being forced on you instead of putting them on yourself.

 

 

and about forced stuff, using sexlab util one i made that in the beggining of sex and in the end, your master or your captor give u alcohol to make the bluring camera of RND appears, making it moar hard to scape, and giving it a the feeling of be helpless because ure always drunk to avoid it XD

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Alright thanks for the heads up and also just a suggestion could there be more dance animations added in for Coin for the Wicked? Anyway you're doing an awesome job the progress you're making is amazing I hardly ever crash now since the recent updates cheers

 

Oh and did you say that you were going to make devious devices as a punishment item?

 

 

I could add more dances if there were dance animations out there free to redistribute. I haven't looked into that yet.

 

About Devious Devices - that's the plan. I want the master to be able to chose to punish you by locking you in a belt or forcing armbinders on you if they are available. Of course, these will require to comply with Devious Devices removal procedures if you escape without the key

 

Having the issue where bandits just continue to attack me after I get the pop up that my PC was stripped and gagged and drops to her knees. They attack until I die. I've read three other people have this issue but I was not seeing any responses as to a solution. Any ideas?

 

I have to rewrite the enslavement scene for that one. 

There is already a combat shutdown with your main attacker, but I would have to shut down hostility from everybody and probably shwo the PC bound to the ground for a while to make sure nobody does anything.

 

I have a question : If I were to install this, but never continued a game  after being enslaved, would it still put my save at risk? For example, I get enslaved, have some fun for a while, then reload before the fight where I got enslaved (and preferable don't die this time), Am I still risking heavy papyrus spam that way ?

 

If you try enslavement during a game and decide this is not the right outcome or NPC, you should try to escape first

If you need to go back, it is safer for your game to quit Skyrim and reload a game before you were enslaved.

 

Your save game is at risk the minute you activate that kind of mod. You will not be able to uninstall it completely without going back to a save game where the mod wasn't active.

[Runico]

first thanks for your work ... each version surprises me more, enhancing a MOD like SD, already almost perfect ... and why, if possible put a pose (idle) when u surrender (as the SUBMIT) but using his knees as a way to end all hostilities and surrender to NPCs...  and one thing I'd like to see would be that after u join the master / group where you were faced with the old master if it shows submissive to him, for devotion or passion ... more one time thanks for your works...

 

[bjornk]

IMO mods like Aroused, pregnancy or other "needs" type of mods, which constantly check for certain variables strain the game way too much. They no doubt add to immersion but you lose performance and risk the game's stability. Less scripts means happier gaming I'd say and hate to say it but SD is already one major contributor to script load.

 

[calranthe]

 

I'm a bit skeptical about Aroused. It's a papyrus load because it's scanning around for arousal level (although only in interior cells).

Then the arousal system is quite crude. Basically the more naked people or sex scene you see, the more you get aroused. 

Now I dont' think this would be the case for a woman watching naked daedra raping her friends.

Sure, especially with the new features, it suit better a male/predator PC playthrough (because takes in account the need for sex, like adding sex to realistic needs and disease). But from a victim PC? Dunno. Sure, there are others NPC getting aroused because you are naked, but it seems there is quite a lot of sex going on already!   

 

 

"Now I don't think this would be the case for a woman watching naked daedra raping her friends"

 

"from a victim PC"

 

Now I am talking from real life experience which has to be tweaked for a fantasy realm but lets not forget it is not quite medieval because of the dragons magic and demonic lords.

 

I have seen rape victims who end up becoming aroused by only that kind of sex, this kind of event even if you don't bring in the idea of the Sanguine talisman can emotionally change a person in a world of pain that one sliver of physical pleasure can become your whole world, we are not talking about a polite happy fluffy system.

 

Now add the demonic influence of a daedric lord and the main premise of this mod the addition of sexlab aroused is a wonderful idea.

 

In ten years the three top fantasies I was asked to "create" using hypnosis and the scene were rape, gang rape and demonic/dragon/monster sex for female clients, male clients on the other hand prefered heroic superhero and well this may be hard to believe they wanted to be female.

 

The world is a very stange place full of interesting things.

[The_Wandering_1]

I can't use Sanguine Debauchery Plus.  I don't know why.  Every time I put it in game and try to install it I get this.  The attachment will show you what I'm faced with.

[calranthe]

IMO mods like Aroused, pregnancy or other "needs" type of mods, which constantly check for certain variables strain the game way too much. They no doubt add to immersion but you lose performance and risk the game's stability. Less scripts means happier gaming I'd say and hate to say it but SD is already one major contributor to script load.

 

Sorry for the double post but I had to give opinion on this one, I think Aroused is a wonderful idea as is pregnancy mods and can only enhance the ideas behind the SD mod and my pc seems to handle the load fine with the other mods I have.

[bjornk]

I can't use Sanguine Debauchery Plus.  I don't know why.  Every time I put it in game and try to install it I get this.  The attachment will show you what I'm faced with.

 

I don't get it. Are you saying that the version number appears on top of the menu is wrong? If that's the case ignore that number.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I can't use Sanguine Debauchery Plus.  I don't know why.  Every time I put it in game and try to install it I get this.  The attachment will show you what I'm faced with.

 

I never touched that version number in MCM, so don't use it to check if it is correctly installed.

It's a good reminder though.. I will make a note about changing it.

[The_Wandering_1]

Every time I try to install it using the MCM to install SD+.  I get that picture add maybe the date didn't change and that's why it does't work for me.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Every time I try to install it using the MCM to install SD+.  I get that picture add maybe the date didn't change and that's why it does't work for me.

 

I don't see anything wrong with the picture... as I said, the date at the top doesn't mean anything.

 

What does it look like under 'status'?

[The_Wandering_1]

I can't enter status or anything.