Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[sapho888]

Somehow i dont have any dialog options. Only prostitution and going shoppin (because im  bounded). I already reinstalled SL dialogs and it looks fine for other things like begging or asking for food. I also read "stay near your master" or something like that very often.

 

Prostitution and shopping are probably from Devious Cursed Loot and not SD+.   If you are getting the "stay near your master" message, that means you have been enslaved by SD+ and you are too far from your master, but not so far that it starts to punish you yet.  I'm not sure what other dialog options you are looking for, but I'm guessing if you are looking to talk to your master, you need to get closer to him if you are getting the "too far" messages anyway.  There should be a key to teleport to you master if you need to, but i forget what the default key is.

[Johnnyone]

 

Somehow i dont have any dialog options. Only prostitution and going shoppin (because im  bounded). I already reinstalled SL dialogs and it looks fine for other things like begging or asking for food. I also read "stay near your master" or something like that very often.

 

Prostitution and shopping are probably from Devious Cursed Loot and not SD+.   If you are getting the "stay near your master" message, that means you have been enslaved by SD+ and you are too far from your master, but not so far that it starts to punish you yet.  I'm not sure what other dialog options you are looking for, but I'm guessing if you are looking to talk to your master, you need to get closer to him if you are getting the "too far" messages anyway.  There should be a key to teleport to you master if you need to, but i forget what the default key is.

 

 

Yeah i forget to add something for the "stay near your master" thing. It shows up even when i stay near him. When im to far away the "to far away" event starts with no problem. I dont remember well, but i think when walked a away to do something and when i was not to close to him then the message wasnt there.

Edit: I also dont get any other dialogs from sd+. Sanguine for example only has "Pls let me go!"

 

[DesertPonderer]

Issue here. When I go to an NPC and ask them to be my master, one of two issues almost always occur:

1. They'll stand in place after enslaving me and never move away from that single spot, nothing fixes this

2. They'll follow, but at a far distance with AI issues along the way

 

If it is relevant, I use Extensive Follower Framework (EFF).

[Lyreal]

@SkyrimII

 

What do you think about the Sex Lab - Sexual Fame 'Framework'?

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/54621-sex-lab-sexual-fame-framework

 

I think some dialogues from that mod could be really good for SD+ or Sexlab Dialogues and increase the immersion.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Issue here. When I go to an NPC and ask them to be my master, one of two issues almost always occur:

1. They'll stand in place after enslaving me and never move away from that single spot, nothing fixes this

2. They'll follow, but at a far distance with AI issues along the way

 

If it is relevant, I use Extensive Follower Framework (EFF).

 

Any master or some NPC in particular?

 

@SkyrimII

 

What do you think about the Sex Lab - Sexual Fame 'Framework'?

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/54621-sex-lab-sexual-fame-framework

 

I think some dialogues from that mod could be really good for SD+ or Sexlab Dialogues and increase the immersion.

 

I am thinking about it.

 

Right now I am finishing Chapter 2 of the Sisterhood of Dibella.

Once that is done, I will look into this framework (probably not before the new year though).

[TheBlackSilhouette]

Hey, just looking for some help.  

 

I've been trying to get a stable build with SD+ for a while now (several individual attempts over several months), but have finally had the free time to hunker down and determine, mod-by-mod, where the problem lies.  Long story short, I often crash immediately after being defeated in combat (by bandits), both bleed-out and blackout, when a Death Alternative selection should be made (I suspect it is when it selects an SD+ scenario, though it also sometimes crashes when I have SD+ installed, but the options in Death Alternative unchecked).  It seems that SD+ is the breaking factor, but I see a ton of people use it, so it is obviously a problem on my end.  

 

Also:

 

• Skyrim is properly installed and files verified (DLC also cleaned via TES5Edit).
• Prerequisites for SD+ are met.
• FNIS is run before playing.
• Proper skeleton is installed.
• System specs well exceed Skyrim plus any mods I can throw at it (Like by a country mile). 
• Run Sexlab and registered XAZ animations. 
• Otherwise meticulously went through mods as I installed them and followed instructions.

 

Load order:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

daymoyl.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

SkyUI.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

[EDIT] *SanguinesDebatchery.esp

FNIS.esp

FNISSexyMove.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp

ApachiiHairStyles.esp

ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

AsharaDimonizedDress.esp

SexLab_Dialogues.esp

SOSRaceMenu.esp

XPMSE.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

SOS - Carloss32 Horse Addon.esp

SOS - Carloss32 Lizard Addon.esp

SOS - Carloss32 Canine Addon.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

*installed: unstable; uninstalled: stable

 

 

Is this a common occurrence?  Have I overlooked something?  Are there some specific MCM settings that I need to have to make things work?  Thanks.    

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Is this the position where you had SD+ in your load order?

 

If it is, try moving it all the way down at the end. 

Unless especially tagged like the Unofficial patch file, esp files should never be loaded before esm files.

[TheBlackSilhouette]

Is this the position where you had SD+ in your load order?

 

If it is, try moving it all the way down at the end. 

Unless especially tagged like the Unofficial patch file, esp files should never be loaded before esm files.

Apologies!  I put it in the wrong place in post (It wasn't in the load list when I went into Mod Organizer's folder and added it).  I edited the post and put it where it should be!  Sorry about that!

[dragonoftheendtime]

hi im haveing a problem with getting infected by the spriggans for the flowering spriggan quest my enemies wont attack me not sure if that's got anything to do with it but can I wear one of the spriggan roots and will the rest grow in time can I do the quest that way   

[DeepBlueFrog]

hi im haveing a problem with getting infected by the spriggans for the flowering spriggan quest my enemies wont attack me not sure if that's got anything to do with it but can I wear one of the spriggan roots and will the rest grow in time can I do the quest that way   

 

Ennemies not attacking you could be Death Alternative or Defeat getting stuck after combat.

 

Check the menu for each mod and use their options to clear their own pacify effect.

[dragonoftheendtime]

hi im haveing a problem with getting infected by the spriggans for the flowering spriggan quest my enemies wont attack me not sure if that's got anything to do with it but can I wear one of the spriggan roots and will the rest grow in time can I do the quest that way   

 

i dont have defeat and its not death alternitive they just wont attack me at all in combat or out of it i think it started when i downloaded the alicia mod not sure but my game keeps crashing every time a spriggian downs me im not sure if i would be infected or not can i just start the infection by equiping one of the roots on my charecter like if i place the feet on her will the rest grow in time

[CliftonJD]

 

Is this the position where you had SD+ in your load order?

 

If it is, try moving it all the way down at the end. 

Unless especially tagged like the Unofficial patch file, esp files should never be loaded before esm files.

Apologies!  I put it in the wrong place in post (It wasn't in the load list when I went into Mod Organizer's folder and added it).  I edited the post and put it where it should be!  Sorry about that!

 

 

check your bleedout settings, there shouldn't be any, next try disabling ragdoll, if that fixes it you may need ralistic ragdolls and effects

 

hi im haveing a problem with getting infected by the spriggans for the flowering spriggan quest my enemies wont attack me not sure if that's got anything to do with it but can I wear one of the spriggan roots and will the rest grow in time can I do the quest that way   

 

i dont have defeat and its not death alternitive they just wont attack me at all in combat or out of it i think it started when i downloaded the alicia mod not sure but my game keeps crashing every time a spriggian downs me im not sure if i would be infected or not can i just start the infection by equiping one of the roots on my charecter like if i place the feet on her will the rest grow in time

 

your description doesn't invalidate what he said, look at death alternative's mcm in the utility settings there's some reset buttons, i think its reset player state you need for that

to avoid this in the future set the calm settings in death alternative lower from the main page i usually set it the lowest

[dra1c]

even after finishing the first spriggan quest and waiting the needed amount of time (quest finished notification), the roots were still on my hands.

Talking with Pure-Spring and asking for help triggered the dialogue that now all items are removed but that was not the case. Still wearing the roots and no way to remove them.

 

The fallback dialogue will however remove other normal restraints, not sure if this is intentional

 

[evilpancake]

I have a question, i figured out my last issue of not getting enslaved by a certain NPC, but i wondered. I read through the FAQ and some of the info is a little vague on this.

 

When you progress with your owner far enough to get to a point where you join them, but the FAQ says you can stay a slave, is there a point you can reach where your original owner will remain a follower, but basically demand sex and such from you?

 

As much as i enjoy this mod, after a little while trying to appease my owner, i sort of grow tired of the restrictions and end up reloading a save. But if they can reach a point where they are a fairly standard companion, just with demands, then i will definitely put for more effort and work at it. Thanks

[DeepBlueFrog]

I have a question, i figured out my last issue of not getting enslaved by a certain NPC, but i wondered. I read through the FAQ and some of the info is a little vague on this.

 

When you progress with your owner far enough to get to a point where you join them, but the FAQ says you can stay a slave, is there a point you can reach where your original owner will remain a follower, but basically demand sex and such from you?

 

As much as i enjoy this mod, after a little while trying to appease my owner, i sort of grow tired of the restrictions and end up reloading a save. But if they can reach a point where they are a fairly standard companion, just with demands, then i will definitely put for more effort and work at it. Thanks

 

The balance is not quite where I want it but you can already do that with many NPCs.

 

For best results, start with an NPC who is already a friendly follower and use 'I need a strong hand to guide me'.

 

If you want a master/follower with a hostile NPC, you will have to join their faction at the end of enslavement, with the potential issues with quests that it implies.

 

I am planning a rewrite of the faction management system but that will not happen before next year.

Right now, I am still working on chapter 2 of the Sisterhood of Dibella.

[Verstort]

Anyone in this thread have a list of good SD+ locations?

 

I mean locations with interactive items that the owner can use so they have stuff to do during the day (alchemy, enchant, smithing, table for eating, ect), with a bed? Bonus points for cage and/or BDSM furniture and theme in nearby location.

 

Preferably places that don't bug out because of bad navmesh or something, and where the NPC can't be outside randomly so he won't walk to the location non-specific cage.

 

Edit: I mean I have a small list already, just looking for additional places.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

even after finishing the first spriggan quest and waiting the needed amount of time (quest finished notification), the roots were still on my hands.

Talking with Pure-Spring and asking for help triggered the dialogue that now all items are removed but that was not the case. Still wearing the roots and no way to remove them.

 

The fallback dialogue will however remove other normal restraints, not sure if this is intentional

 

 

Thanks for reporting the issue in Github.

 

Are you using the latest version of SD+?

 

It is possible the rewrite of the Devices management system broken that part of the Spriggan items.

I will check it out when I get a chance.

[dra1c]

 

 

even after finishing the first spriggan quest and waiting the needed amount of time (quest finished notification), the roots were still on my hands.

Talking with Pure-Spring and asking for help triggered the dialogue that now all items are removed but that was not the case. Still wearing the roots and no way to remove them.

 

The fallback dialogue will however remove other normal restraints, not sure if this is intentional

 

 

Thanks for reporting the issue in Github.

 

Are you using the latest version of SD+?

 

It is possible the rewrite of the Devices management system broken that part of the Spriggan items.

I will check it out when I get a chance.

 

 

Thanks for the quick response! Yes, I am using the latest version that is available on loverslab

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

even after finishing the first spriggan quest and waiting the needed amount of time (quest finished notification), the roots were still on my hands.

Talking with Pure-Spring and asking for help triggered the dialogue that now all items are removed but that was not the case. Still wearing the roots and no way to remove them.

 

The fallback dialogue will however remove other normal restraints, not sure if this is intentional

 

 

Thanks for reporting the issue in Github.

 

Are you using the latest version of SD+?

 

It is possible the rewrite of the Devices management system broken that part of the Spriggan items.

I will check it out when I get a chance.

 

 

Thanks for the quick response! Yes, I am using the latest version that is available on loverslab

 

 

 

Can you try posting an error log after asking Danica PureSpring to remove the devices?

[Valgo]

Hey there, finally got back to skyrim. Most things work fine (considering I installed like 140 Mods at once) but I kinda can't access the MCM Menu of this Mod.

No matter what option I choose (settings, etc.) I always just see the SD Logo aka the red Flower, instead of option menus.

 

I tried redownloading and reinstalling the Mod (it worked for Sexlab.esm which gave me similiar troubles) but it didn't work.

I'd totally show you guys my loadorder (if that helps) but I don't know how to copy and paste it and I am too drunk right now to type them all down. x)

 

 

PS: I tried to see if the mod works regardless of that issue but DAYMOL didn't give me a SD Ending yet and I suck at finding a way to disable all but the Deafet and SD Options.

[CliftonJD]

Hey there, finally got back to skyrim. Most things work fine (considering I installed like 140 Mods at once) but I kinda can't access the MCM Menu of this Mod.

No matter what option I choose (settings, etc.) I always just see the SD Logo aka the red Flower, instead of option menus.

 

I tried redownloading and reinstalling the Mod (it worked for Sexlab.esm which gave me similiar troubles) but it didn't work.

I'd totally show you guys my loadorder (if that helps) but I don't know how to copy and paste it and I am too drunk right now to type them all down. x)

 

 

PS: I tried to see if the mod works regardless of that issue but DAYMOL didn't give me a SD Ending yet and I suck at finding a way to disable all but the Deafet and SD Options.

try sorting your mods with loot

 http://loot.github.io/

[Valgo]

 

Hey there, finally got back to skyrim. Most things work fine (considering I installed like 140 Mods at once) but I kinda can't access the MCM Menu of this Mod.

No matter what option I choose (settings, etc.) I always just see the SD Logo aka the red Flower, instead of option menus.

 

I tried redownloading and reinstalling the Mod (it worked for Sexlab.esm which gave me similiar troubles) but it didn't work.

I'd totally show you guys my loadorder (if that helps) but I don't know how to copy and paste it and I am too drunk right now to type them all down. x)

 

 

PS: I tried to see if the mod works regardless of that issue but DAYMOL didn't give me a SD Ending yet and I suck at finding a way to disable all but the Deafet and SD Options.

try sorting your mods with loot

 http://loot.github.io/

 

I always do that, and then I run fnis

[CliftonJD]

 

 

Hey there, finally got back to skyrim. Most things work fine (considering I installed like 140 Mods at once) but I kinda can't access the MCM Menu of this Mod.

No matter what option I choose (settings, etc.) I always just see the SD Logo aka the red Flower, instead of option menus.

 

I tried redownloading and reinstalling the Mod (it worked for Sexlab.esm which gave me similiar troubles) but it didn't work.

I'd totally show you guys my loadorder (if that helps) but I don't know how to copy and paste it and I am too drunk right now to type them all down. x)

 

 

PS: I tried to see if the mod works regardless of that issue but DAYMOL didn't give me a SD Ending yet and I suck at finding a way to disable all but the Deafet and SD Options.

try sorting your mods with loot

 http://loot.github.io/

 

I always do that, and then I run fnis

 

that's beginning to sound like you tried to add this to a running game

i've heard some people are able to fix the broken mcm with a console command, but don't remember it

all i know of is trying with a new game, if you still have troubles then after loot has sorted your mods try rearranging them so the heavier scripted mods like sd have a couple armor mods, something simple unscripted between them and the next heavy mod

...that might also fix it on the good running save after you get it working on the new save

[Valgo]

 

 

 

Hey there, finally got back to skyrim. Most things work fine (considering I installed like 140 Mods at once) but I kinda can't access the MCM Menu of this Mod.

No matter what option I choose (settings, etc.) I always just see the SD Logo aka the red Flower, instead of option menus.

 

I tried redownloading and reinstalling the Mod (it worked for Sexlab.esm which gave me similiar troubles) but it didn't work.

I'd totally show you guys my loadorder (if that helps) but I don't know how to copy and paste it and I am too drunk right now to type them all down. x)

 

 

PS: I tried to see if the mod works regardless of that issue but DAYMOL didn't give me a SD Ending yet and I suck at finding a way to disable all but the Deafet and SD Options.

try sorting your mods with loot

 http://loot.github.io/

 

I always do that, and then I run fnis

 

that's beginning to sound like you tried to add this to a running game

i've heard some people are able to fix the broken mcm with a console command, but don't remember it

all i know of is trying with a new game, if you still have troubles then after loot has sorted your mods try rearranging them so the heavier scripted mods like sd have a couple armor mods, something simple unscripted between them and the next heavy mod

...that might also fix it on the good running save after you get it working on the new save

 

 

Oh it is an entirely new game, directly from Helgen with no mods installed beforehand. But I'll try that, thanks for the hint.

 

 

[Fineness]

When i start a new game, a message appear "[sd] player ref has changed" wha'ts this ?