Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Ragnaroy]

 

So after loosing and the rape, i just sit and wait, nothing happens, i can smash A and D to leave, and actually leave, but nothing will happen, if i stay more than 10 secs i'll get attacked, and the SD events will never trigger.

 

And if unchecking everything in DA except SD events, i just get sent to Sanguine when i black out, like i died.

 

 

Just summarising everything here so this issue can get fixed ASAP.

 

I had stopped playing for a while, i came back recently and updated everything, I did not uninstall SD+ before updating it, back then the SL Framework was on the version 1.39. Now basicly it's not working well, there's no crash, no errors, nothing, i already went into Sanguine's realm a few times, and it will be the only thing that will happen if i try to get enslaved (by removing every other options in Death Alt). I'll update if i get more issues but so far, i think it's pretty serious.

[corporallemon]

 

 

 

So I just installed the new SD+ a day or so ago, but I'm having a problem.

 

I just tried to purposely get myself enslaved to see if it would work, but whenever I lose all my health, and I start bleeding out, the camera just stays fixed, and it loads the last save file, as if I really did die.

 

Did you click Install in the MCM menu page -> exit menu then wait for the message of installation -> enter menu page, click Begin -> exit menu -> wait for the message sanguine is watching, etc.? Also if your using any mods like Requiem you need to change death reload rate to maximum time and also the setting to change armor in combat: on. It sounds like you are using DA if you are bleeding out, is DA set to not use ragdoll and the SD quests are active/there in the On: Bleedout, Blackout, and Death sub menus? You didn't really give much information at all.

 

 

SD+ is installed correctly, I know that. I don't have Requiem but I do have Death Alternative. I've set all the SD quests to active in the OnBleedout, OnBlackout and OnDeath menus, and I set it not to use ragdoll, but it doesn't change anything.

 

Also seems I cannot load any save game once I leave it. Even ones I've never opened with this mod installed.

 

Did you try loading the saves multiple times? It usually takes me two or more triest to get a save to load properly the first time after modifying the game too much. I don't know why, but it just does. Usually I use the load option and select the save manually both times.

 

I tried loading the saves a few times more and they worked, so that's good. But I still cannot even get enslaved.

[Maelstrius]

Hm, So I finally got around to downloading and installing SD, I got captured. No problem there. But i'm unsure if it's working properly. So when I do the dancing opitoon, it says it's irresistible and when it ends the text says "wait till they their done taking their turns on you" and "The dance leaves you breathless" but nothing happens afterwards. Are the NPCs suppose to engage in sex with my PC after this? Also I don't seem to get the "Sex and punishment" quest. Does the quests go in order or is it random chance for that to happen? 

[xgkf]

Question about the BleedOut Event for SD+ in the DA menu: What exactly is supposed to happen during that event, specifically?

 

When testing the enslavement stuff a bit ago, I managed to get my character enslaved okay from what I assume is the BlackOut Event (went through the bleedout stuff where the bar gets knocked down to zero and she passes out), and stuff happened during the brief enslavement period (couple sex scenes, couple punishment). It was a little buggy (got put into pillories that spawned out of nowhere for the sex events, and at one point my character got frozen in the kneeling-shackled position while they bandits beat her up until she entered BleedOut again, at which point she got unstuck and managed to run away with the help of some friendly wolves killing them), but it seemed mostly functional.

 

I just can figure out what the BleedOut event for SD+ is supposed to be, because nothing ever happened during any of the...probably 10 BleedOut periods my character got put into (entering BleedOut and then recovering before getting knocked down again 'cause health low).

[seta66]

My 3rd person camera gets messed up after enslavement. I can't rotate the camera around, or if I can the avatar turns with the camera so I only get a back view, even when sitting on the floor. This almost always happens. Is this a known issue? I had no problems with the sipprigan quest, but the other faction enslavements just ruin the 3rd, person camera. Is there a consul command to reset the camera?

[Pinute]

My 3rd person camera gets messed up after enslavement. I can't rotate the camera around, or if I can the avatar turns with the camera so I only get a back view, even when sitting on the floor. This almost always happens. Is this a known issue? I had no problems with the sipprigan quest, but the other faction enslavements just ruin the 3rd, person camera. Is there a consul command to reset the camera?

 

try sheathing your weapons while in bleedout. that 'turn the avatar' is a common bug, and shows up in a variety of places. sheathing before it kicks in usually prevents it.

[Dénouement]

Messing around with the DAYMOYL settings, I figured out its possible to get a virtually indefinite Defeat mod scenario, but there are many settings that have to be right, and among them are the health setting in the Defeat MCM.  Or, you can have a pretty much guarantee of either enslavement or sanguine. I think it might be worth suggesting that sanguine should take you only from a death without eligible NPCs in range, or from sleeping after you should have died.  

 

It seems enslavement is actually an effect on death, I couldn't get it from bleedout a single of a dozen times attempted. This also meant I had to turn off essential player. While much of this has been described in the guide or the support topic, I think settings between DAYMOYL and Defeat and SD+ need their own manual.

 

The current manual does a very good job; reading it more carefully got things working better; but perhaps some recommended settings for people who; 1) want to get enslaved rarely, 2) regularly, 3) all the time.

[alexvkj]

Hi,

 

what about incorporatind SD with this one nice slave tattoo mod: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/619-slavetats/ ?

I think, It could be much better then forced appearance change. Applying a slave tat could be automatic too.

[johnny2by4]

so i just got enslaved for the first time and ended up killing my master (she wouldn't kill me).  went to sleep and met sanguine and got sent home, now i have a ring on my hand that doesn't show up in my inventory and cant be removed.  its also blocking any attempt to put on another ring.  i'm guessing this is sanquine's artifact but it seems to serve no purpose but to annoy me, it has no magical effect listed at least.

[Morferous]

Hi,

 

what about incorporatind SD with this one nice slave tattoo mod: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/619-slavetats/ ?

I think, It could be much better then forced appearance change. Applying a slave tat could be automatic too.

 

This one have been asked several times. It not only a tricky task, but not all of us would be exited to have them incorporated.

 

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Edit.

Wait, was this really the first time I wrote to this thread? Let me take a moment and thank skyrimll for the work that has been done to keep this mod alive.

 

Thank you. 

[Karma199696]

hi...

 

having some free time in this week-end, i decided i would finally install the new version of SD and all it's requirements (new Sex-Lab, new DA, new SKSE, etc)

then i started a new game but i'm having a couple of problems...

 

1) i can't have SL defeat working with SD and DA... whatever percentage i select i never get defeated, i tried several settings between 0% and 95% nothing happens, i keep getting hit until i reach the 5% set in DA and start bleading...

 

2) when i got enslaved, i completely lost control of the camera... when i play in 3rd person the camera is fixed above my character's head and quite far away from her... i can't zoom in, can't rotate around her, nothing... i can only see her from shoulders and up and from very far... but until a moment before getting enslaved my camera worked perfectly... i'm using customizable camera from http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49262/?

actually is is the kind of fixed perpective you have when wielding weappons... why ?

 

anything i should know about the new mod... load order or conflicts with other mods... or anything else ?

 

thanks.

 

---------------------------- New Update -------------------------

 

i escaped from my owner, was no fun being a slave without being able to see and take screenshots of what was going on...

as soon as i got rid of my chains, i regained the full control of the camera... so... why while i'm enslaved i can't control it ? i could with the old version of SD+... am i missing anything ?

[Paradox_of_Theseus]

One thing that might be worth noting on the main page is that the mod Locational Damage doesn't play well with DA. While using it, every time I got brough to the BleedOut state I would get the message "You cannot continue fighting", then my game would reload. When I turned off the Locational Damage feature for the Player (still kept the mod installed for enemies), then I would start to enter BleedOut states and get some SD scenes to start up.

 

I also think that SkyRe has some issues with this due to its Bleeding and delayed damage aspects. I am assuming this is because in DA the new damage is supposed to come off the BleedOut bar, but with Locational Damage or SkyRe, the delayed damage portions still tick off the original health bar (killing the player even when set to Essential).

[Marcus01]

I got enslaved by a bandit and while enslaved I try to pick up a Steel Arrow. I fail, drop the arrow and I receive the message "Faction Count: 0" and then talking to my owner he had the options for me: 'asking for a strong hand' and 'please, can you help me get these chains off'. I also get this error when I attempt to pick up my bow that was stripped from Defeat. I can however pickup my armor that was stripped and I equip it.

 

edIt: I also get this problem when picking up an Iron Battleaxe, even when I pick it up without my owner noticing, is this intended?

 

Another bug I get (but I think it's known) is that while enslaved and sleeping, after I wake up I am hostile to nearby bandits. This is a problem for me as I use Realistic Needs and Diseases and I need to sleep at times. I also do not get the option of asking for food or drink from my owner and the 1 other bandit that was near also did not have this option.

 

edit2: I was able to leave the castle they were in and if I went back inside they were hostile. Also, Instead of picking up a weapon right away I waited until my owner removed my wrist bindings and upon picking up a weapon at that point the bandits turned hostile and began attacking me.

[DeepBlueFrog]

No need to fret - there is no update yet.

 

I just added the german translation of v2.03 that I received a few days ago

 

And yes.. I am back from my break and I will probably not answer everybody's questions as there are too many.

 

If your issue has not been addressed yet, feel free to bump your post in the thread or send me a note.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I got enslaved by a bandit and while enslaved I try to pick up a Steel Arrow. I fail, drop the arrow and I receive the message "Faction Count: 0" and then talking to my owner he had the options for me: 'asking for a strong hand' and 'please, can you help me get these chains off'. I also get this error when I attempt to pick up my bow that was stripped from Defeat. I can however pickup my armor that was stripped and I equip it.

 

edIt: I also get this problem when picking up an Iron Battleaxe, even when I pick it up without my owner noticing, is this intended?

 

Another bug I get (but I think it's known) is that while enslaved and sleeping, after I wake up I am hostile to nearby bandits. This is a problem for me as I use Realistic Needs and Diseases and I need to sleep at times. I also do not get the option of asking for food or drink from my owner and the 1 other bandit that was near also did not have this option.

 

edit2: I was able to leave the castle they were in and if I went back inside they were hostile. Also, Instead of picking up a weapon right away I waited until my owner removed my wrist bindings and upon picking up a weapon at that point the bandits turned hostile and began attacking me.

 

Two effects are at work here.

 

1- When you pick up any weapon, SD considers you are trying to cut your bonds and will test their strength. After enough attempts, their strength goes down to 0 and you are freed. So.. if you don't want to be released, do not pick up any weapon.

 

2- In order for enslavement to work, DA needs to pacify enemies. That effect has a timer that you can adjust in DA's menu.

If you wait past that timer, NPCs will become hostile again - unless you are still enslaved.

 

So what happened was:

 

- you were enslaved

- NPCs were under the pacify effect

- you released yourself from enslavement by picking up the arrow

- NPCs were still pacified

- you waited

- NPCs were hostile again because you were not enslaved anymore.

 

I hope this makes sense

[DeepBlueFrog]

hi...

 

having some free time in this week-end, i decided i would finally install the new version of SD and all it's requirements (new Sex-Lab, new DA, new SKSE, etc)

then i started a new game but i'm having a couple of problems...

 

1) i can't have SL defeat working with SD and DA... whatever percentage i select i never get defeated, i tried several settings between 0% and 95% nothing happens, i keep getting hit until i reach the 5% set in DA and start bleading...

 

2) when i got enslaved, i completely lost control of the camera... when i play in 3rd person the camera is fixed above my character's head and quite far away from her... i can't zoom in, can't rotate around her, nothing... i can only see her from shoulders and up and from very far... but until a moment before getting enslaved my camera worked perfectly... i'm using customizable camera from http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49262/?

actually is is the kind of fixed perpective you have when wielding weappons... why ?

 

anything i should know about the new mod... load order or conflicts with other mods... or anything else ?

 

thanks.

 

---------------------------- New Update -------------------------

 

i escaped from my owner, was no fun being a slave without being able to see and take screenshots of what was going on...

as soon as i got rid of my chains, i regained the full control of the camera... so... why while i'm enslaved i can't control it ? i could with the old version of SD+... am i missing anything ?

 

That issue happens sometimes. I am still not sure how to fix it.

 

If you are enslavemed, wait for punishment scenes. They usually reset the camera into its normal mode.

 

If you are not enslavement, you can just equip and unequip a weapon to fix the effect.

[RevoX]

Just curious, but is it possible to replace meshes of the spriggan armour with that of UNPB BBP?

 

I'm also having an issue with whipping scenes not having the animations. It just starts with the master standing still and then a notification "Thats enough of that". I'm wondering if i'm missing anything for that.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Just curious, but is it possible to replace meshes of the spriggan armour with that of UNPB BBP?

 

I'm also having an issue with whipping scenes not having the animations. It just starts with the master standing still and then a notification "Thats enough of that". I'm wondering if i'm missing anything for that.

 

The missing whipping animations have been fixed a few versions ago. Make sure you do not have old scripts in your scripts folder (remove anything starting with _sd).

 

To customize the armor, you would have to extract the mesh and texture folder for the armor (under mesh/_sd and textures/_sd ) and replace the files with files of the same name.

 

I will simplify customization of the armor soon though.

[Karma199696]

 

hi...

 

having some free time in this week-end, i decided i would finally install the new version of SD and all it's requirements (new Sex-Lab, new DA, new SKSE, etc)

then i started a new game but i'm having a couple of problems...

 

1) i can't have SL defeat working with SD and DA... whatever percentage i select i never get defeated, i tried several settings between 0% and 95% nothing happens, i keep getting hit until i reach the 5% set in DA and start bleading...

 

2) when i got enslaved, i completely lost control of the camera... when i play in 3rd person the camera is fixed above my character's head and quite far away from her... i can't zoom in, can't rotate around her, nothing... i can only see her from shoulders and up and from very far... but until a moment before getting enslaved my camera worked perfectly... i'm using customizable camera from http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49262/?

actually is is the kind of fixed perpective you have when wielding weappons... why ?

 

anything i should know about the new mod... load order or conflicts with other mods... or anything else ?

 

thanks.

 

---------------------------- New Update -------------------------

 

i escaped from my owner, was no fun being a slave without being able to see and take screenshots of what was going on...

as soon as i got rid of my chains, i regained the full control of the camera... so... why while i'm enslaved i can't control it ? i could with the old version of SD+... am i missing anything ?

 

That issue happens sometimes. I am still not sure how to fix it.

 

If you are enslavemed, wait for punishment scenes. They usually reset the camera into its normal mode.

 

If you are not enslavement, you can just equip and unequip a weapon to fix the effect.

 

at the moment i'm not enslaved and as i fled and got rid of my restraints i regained the full camera control.

should i get enslaved again and sould i still have camera problems, i'll try misbehaving in order to get punished and see if that fixes the issue...

 

thanks for answering and keep up the great work ! i'm looking forward seeing what happens next and what else will you invent !

[rkoelsch1]

I had a weird occurance and it is probably because i didn't set the thresholds between dymol and defeat.  I read the manual and will try again.   What happened is somehow defeat and dreamworld triggered at the same time.  My poor toon was bound and gagged and then raped by the draugr. I ran away  and did an uninstall of SD going to the dreamworld and then waiting the time for scripts to end.  I then went back and killed the daugr and things seemed okay until I tried to use anything ie enchanting table, alchemy table grindstone.  I got no message just it would not interacted.   I went back to a previous save before the incident and uninstalled SD and the game has been fine.  But I do like the the mod so going to try again.  Thanks for an interesting mod.

[Dasypygal]

My character got enslaved right off by a bandit and after picking up a weapon and killing his (former) master I can't seem to unequip the roughspun tunic he provided.  Is this a known issue or am I missing something? 

[Vithiss]

My character got enslaved right off by a bandit and after picking up a weapon and killing his (former) master I can't seem to unequip the roughspun tunic he provided.  Is this a known issue or am I missing something? 

 

I have had similar sorts of things happen now and then. For me, selling the "stuck" item got rid of it. Hope that helps.

[Buffmutti]

My character got enslaved right off by a bandit and after picking up a weapon and killing his (former) master I can't seem to unequip the roughspun tunic he provided.  Is this a known issue or am I missing something? 

 

If this happens you can either open your inventory, move the mousepointer over the tunic and press "R" to drop it or you press "N" and keep pressing that key for a few seconds until your PC starts to masturbate (because very few things will not be unequipped by doing this)

[Storms of Superior]

 

 

I got enslaved by a bandit and while enslaved I try to pick up a Steel Arrow. I fail, drop the arrow and I receive the message "Faction Count: 0" and then talking to my owner he had the options for me: 'asking for a strong hand' and 'please, can you help me get these chains off'. I also get this error when I attempt to pick up my bow that was stripped from Defeat. I can however pickup my armor that was stripped and I equip it.

 

edIt: I also get this problem when picking up an Iron Battleaxe, even when I pick it up without my owner noticing, is this intended?

 

Another bug I get (but I think it's known) is that while enslaved and sleeping, after I wake up I am hostile to nearby bandits. This is a problem for me as I use Realistic Needs and Diseases and I need to sleep at times. I also do not get the option of asking for food or drink from my owner and the 1 other bandit that was near also did not have this option.

 

edit2: I was able to leave the castle they were in and if I went back inside they were hostile. Also, Instead of picking up a weapon right away I waited until my owner removed my wrist bindings and upon picking up a weapon at that point the bandits turned hostile and began attacking me.

Two effects are at work here.

 

1- When you pick up any weapon, SD considers you are trying to cut your bonds and will test their strength. After enough attempts, their strength goes down to 0 and you are freed. So.. if you don't want to be released, do not pick up any weapon.

 

2- In order for enslavement to work, DA needs to pacify enemies. That effect has a timer that you can adjust in DA's menu.

If you wait past that timer, NPCs will become hostile again - unless you are still enslaved.

 

So what happened was:

 

- you were enslaved

- NPCs were under the pacify effect

- you released yourself from enslavement by picking up the arrow

- NPCs were still pacified

- you waited

- NPCs were hostile again because you were not enslaved anymore.

 

I hope this makes sense

I had a problem with nearly everything in the game being pacified with no end. I just scrapped those saves. It seems my mod configuration, in general, is working to screw me.

[Ragnaroy]

So what's supposed to happen when getting enslaved with a follower ? Because mine's just seem to keep following me