Dénouement Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Wrote a new, lighter dialogue intro, figure sanguine wouldn't get serious until he absolutely had to: [Player Awakens in Dreamworld] [sanguine]: Well, if it isn't my favorite drinkin' buddy. Either I'm drunk or you're naked. Probably both. [Player options (irrelevant)]: You're not so clothed yourself. Why am I naked? Who are you? [sanguine]: You're funny. Here, have a drink with me. [sanguine walks over and reclines on a platform, below which is a chair. He positions so his dong dangles over the edge within a foot of where a person's head would be if seated in the chair, and if in first person would appear in full on the right side if the screen. Next to the chair is a table with some sort of lore friendly, super exotic wine. Or an empty bottle and a keg or something that indicates it's an unlimited source. He starts drinking.] [Player]: So. . . [sanguine holds up a finger, still drinking, then finishes with an audible, "Ahhh. . "] [sanguine]: What? [Player options]: [Option 1]: I don't think we've been introduced. [sanguine]: I am Sanguine, God of all that's worth being a God of. [Player]: You look like a Daedra. [sanguine]: Aedra Daedra [as if he were saying tomato tom-ah-to] [return to above options] [Option 2]: Why am I tied up? [sanguine]: I don't understand the question. Why are you not drinking more? [He drinks] [Option 3]: What is this place? [sanguine]: This is my home. Or, at least a room of it. My favorite room. [Option 4]: Why am I here? [sanguine]: Aren't you here for the tour? [Player]: What tour? [sanguine]: Oh, you know... THE tour. The of those things you don't normally get. Take a drink. [sanguine continiues after the player drinks] You know, those sensations, experiences... a tour of the world, but also yourself. Your reactions. Your limits. [Mockingly high pitched girly voice] 'Oh, my gosh is it okay to like this?' And also, 'Oh God, no it's not, no it's not!' Or even, 'Oh God, please NO!' Isn't that what you're here for? [Player Option 1]: . . . Yes. [sanguine]: Good. I will see you soon. The safeword is 'Fpoon.' Like a spork, but better. [Player]: Don't you want to . . . start me on the tour? [sanguine]: Oh, yes. But I have something better in mind [evil laugh]. [Player option 2]: No. [sanguine]: Hey, you called me, pink cheeks. [Player]: My cheeks aren't pink. [sanguine]: They will be. The safe word is "fpoon." Like a spork, but better. See you soon [evil laugh]. [Fade out]
RumZ Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Hello I am truly, TRULY facinated by your work! But in 3 months of trying (attempts of installing sd or sd+ on EVERY SKYRIM version I could find) to make this mod work gave me nothing but frustration and regret. Now ... I am still filled with hope that maybe someday I'll succeed... so my question is: What are the propper instalation process for SD+ to work? ... No
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 Wrote a new, lighter dialogue intro, figure sanguine wouldn't get serious until he absolutely had to: [Player Awakens in Dreamworld] [sanguine]: Well, if it isn't my favorite drinkin' buddy. Either I'm drunk or you're naked. Probably both. [Player options (irrelevant)]: You're not so clothed yourself. Why am I naked? Who are you? [sanguine]: You're funny. Here, have a drink with me. [sanguine walks over and reclines on a platform, below which is a chair. He positions so his dong dangles over the edge within a foot of where a person's head would be if seated in the chair, and if in first person would appear in full on the right side if the screen. Next to the chair is a table with some sort of lore friendly, super exotic wine. Or an empty bottle and a keg or something that indicates it's an unlimited source. He starts drinking.] [Player]: So. . . [sanguine holds up a finger, still drinking, then finishes with an audible, "Ahhh. . "] [sanguine]: What? [Player options]: [Option 1]: I don't think we've been introduced. [sanguine]: I am Sanguine, God of all that's worth being a God of. [Player]: You look like a Daedra. [sanguine]: Aedra Daedra [as if he were saying tomato tom-ah-to] [return to above options] [Option 2]: Why am I tied up? [sanguine]: I don't understand the question. Why are you not drinking more? [He drinks] [Option 3]: What is this place? [sanguine]: This is my home. Or, at least a room of it. My favorite room. [Option 4]: Why am I here? [sanguine]: Aren't you here for the tour? [Player]: What tour? [sanguine]: Oh, you know... THE tour. The of those things you don't normally get. Take a drink. [sanguine continiues after the player drinks] You know, those sensations, experiences... a tour of the world, but also yourself. Your reactions. Your limits. Isn't that what you're here for? [Player Option 1]: . . . Yes. [sanguine]: Good. I will see you soon. The safeword is 'Fpoon.' Like a spork, but better. [Player]: Don't you want to . . . start me on the tour? [sanguine]: Oh, yes. But I have something better in mind [evil laugh]. [Player option 2]: No. [sanguine]: Hey, you called me, pink cheeks. [Player]: My cheeks aren't pink. [sanguine]: They will be. The safe word is "fpoon." Like a spork, but better. See you soon [evil laugh]. [Fade out] I like it.. it reminds me of the encounter with Sheogorath, minus the Cheese.
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 Hello I am truly, TRULY facinated by your work! But in 3 months of trying (attempts of installing sd or sd+ on EVERY SKYRIM version I could find) to make this mod work gave me nothing but frustration and regret. Now ... I am still filled with hope that maybe someday I'll succeed... so my question is: What are the propper instalation process for SD+ to work? ... No What kind of issues did you run into? There is no proper installation process but it should look like this: - install sexlab and its requirements (SkyUI and FNIS especially) - install an advanced skeleton like XPMS (for the spriggan armor) - install Devious Devices Integration and its requirements : SexLab Aroused, Devious Devices Assets and Zaz animation framework. - install SD and make sure it is at the end of your load order - if you have Frostfall, Dawnguard or Dragonborn DLCs, install the optional add-ons and only activate the add-ons you need - make sure the add-ons are loaded after SD - run FNIS for Users to register all animations - start Skyrim - in SD's menu, under Status, select INSTALL - in SD's menu, check the options you need (take a look at Coin for the Wicked or Coveted or the Hardcore option) - in SD's menu, when you are ready, select BEGIN or wait until you reach level14 and go through the 'Night to remember' quest
Dénouement Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Added a few bits to the his description of the tour, which I find amusing.
Ragnaroy Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 So what's supposed to happen when getting enslaved with a follower ? Because mine's just seem to keep following me
DragonTurtle86 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 I ran into a problem that I think is because of the mod: I installed all of the requirements and such for SD and the requirements for the requirements (requireception) for SD. I ran the game and it was just fine until I realized I had forgotten to get SD itself (whoops lol). I closed the game out, downloaded SD, activated it, and ran the game again. This time though, right when the Skyrim logo popped up (when it lets you select a save and all that) the game just closed on me. I don't really know what happened and if you could explain what I might have done wrong and how to fix it, that'd be great. Thanks! P.S: I don't know if this would make any difference, but I had to download the mod twice cause I cancelled it by mistake the first time (whoops again).
xgkf Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Just re-asking: Question about the BleedOut Event for SD+ in the DA menu: What exactly is supposed to happen during that event, specifically? When testing the enslavement stuff a bit ago, I managed to get my character enslaved okay from what I assume is the BlackOut Event (went through the bleedout stuff where the bar gets knocked down to zero and she passes out), and stuff happened during the brief enslavement period (couple sex scenes, couple punishment). It was a little buggy (got put into pillories that spawned out of nowhere for the sex events, and at one point my character got frozen in the kneeling-shackled position while they bandits beat her up until she entered BleedOut again, at which point she got unstuck and managed to run away with the help of some friendly wolves killing them), but it seemed mostly functional. I just can figure out what the BleedOut event for SD+ is supposed to be, because nothing ever happened during any of the...probably 10 BleedOut periods my character got put into (entering BleedOut and then recovering before getting knocked down again 'cause health low).
RumZ Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Hello I am truly, TRULY facinated by your work! But in 3 months of trying (attempts of installing sd or sd+ on EVERY SKYRIM version I could find) to make this mod work gave me nothing but frustration and regret. Now ... I am still filled with hope that maybe someday I'll succeed... so my question is: What are the propper instalation process for SD+ to work? ... No What kind of issues did you run into? There is no proper installation process but it should look like this: - install sexlab and its requirements (SkyUI and FNIS especially) - install an advanced skeleton like XPMS (for the spriggan armor) - install Devious Devices Integration and its requirements : SexLab Aroused, Devious Devices Assets and Zaz animation framework. - install SD and make sure it is at the end of your load order - if you have Frostfall, Dawnguard or Dragonborn DLCs, install the optional add-ons and only activate the add-ons you need - make sure the add-ons are loaded after SD - run FNIS for Users to register all animations - start Skyrim - in SD's menu, under Status, select INSTALL - in SD's menu, check the options you need (take a look at Coin for the Wicked or Coveted or the Hardcore option) - in SD's menu, when you are ready, select BEGIN or wait until you reach level14 and go through the 'Night to remember' quest I will follow this order with hope. But why there is CBBE BBP or UNP body replacers are needed... So hopefully your list is the short absolutely needed mods for sd+ . I will put it through nmm cause i couldn't handle it through ModManager. I just wish it will finally... So now it doesn't load to main menu it crashes. Mod Manager says : sanguinesDebauchery.esp CRC: 71BB0175 Error: This plugin requires "daymoyl.esm" to be installed, but it is missing. RIGHT the dead alternative. And it fixed IT! INSTALED! @_@ AND DIDN"T CRASH NOW I nEED TO SEE IT WORK!
jfraser Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Hello I am truly, TRULY facinated by your work! But in 3 months of trying (attempts of installing sd or sd+ on EVERY SKYRIM version I could find) to make this mod work gave me nothing but frustration and regret. Now ... I am still filled with hope that maybe someday I'll succeed... so my question is: What are the propper instalation process for SD+ to work? ... No What kind of issues did you run into? There is no proper installation process but it should look like this: - install sexlab and its requirements (SkyUI and FNIS especially) - install an advanced skeleton like XPMS (for the spriggan armor) - install Devious Devices Integration and its requirements : SexLab Aroused, Devious Devices Assets and Zaz animation framework. - install SD and make sure it is at the end of your load order - if you have Frostfall, Dawnguard or Dragonborn DLCs, install the optional add-ons and only activate the add-ons you need - make sure the add-ons are loaded after SD - run FNIS for Users to register all animations - start Skyrim - in SD's menu, under Status, select INSTALL - in SD's menu, check the options you need (take a look at Coin for the Wicked or Coveted or the Hardcore option) - in SD's menu, when you are ready, select BEGIN or wait until you reach level14 and go through the 'Night to remember' quest I will follow this order with hope. But why there is CBBE BBP or UNP body replacers are needed... So hopefully your list is the short absolutely needed mods for sd+ . I will put it through nmm cause i couldn't handle it through ModManager. I just wish it will finally work. Without floating char on 2 meters. Or nothing at all happens) Death Alternative: Your Money or Your Life is also required now. Download and read the FAQ.
Vithiss Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 So what's supposed to happen when getting enslaved with a follower ? Because mine's just seem to keep following me I -think- that this is handled by DAYMOYL, there is a tab in its MCM for what happens to followers when you "killed." I haven't used any followers with it yet so I am not 100% sure, but that's what I would suggest you try tinkering with first. @xgkf I am guessing, to be honest, but, Skyrimll said something in a post about the latest update to the effect that he was adding something to make SD+ work more smoothly with Defeat via DA. Since the event you're asking about showed up then, my guess is that it's that integration-smoothing. I too, am curious though, now that you've got me wondering.
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 Hello I am truly, TRULY facinated by your work! But in 3 months of trying (attempts of installing sd or sd+ on EVERY SKYRIM version I could find) to make this mod work gave me nothing but frustration and regret. Now ... I am still filled with hope that maybe someday I'll succeed... so my question is: What are the propper instalation process for SD+ to work? ... No What kind of issues did you run into? There is no proper installation process but it should look like this: - install sexlab and its requirements (SkyUI and FNIS especially) - install an advanced skeleton like XPMS (for the spriggan armor) - install Devious Devices Integration and its requirements : SexLab Aroused, Devious Devices Assets and Zaz animation framework. - install SD and make sure it is at the end of your load order - if you have Frostfall, Dawnguard or Dragonborn DLCs, install the optional add-ons and only activate the add-ons you need - make sure the add-ons are loaded after SD - run FNIS for Users to register all animations - start Skyrim - in SD's menu, under Status, select INSTALL - in SD's menu, check the options you need (take a look at Coin for the Wicked or Coveted or the Hardcore option) - in SD's menu, when you are ready, select BEGIN or wait until you reach level14 and go through the 'Night to remember' quest I will follow this order with hope. But why there is CBBE BBP or UNP body replacers are needed... So hopefully your list is the short absolutely needed mods for sd+ . I will put it through nmm cause i couldn't handle it through ModManager. I just wish it will finally work. Without floating char on 2 meters. Or nothing at all happens) Death Alternative: Your Money or Your Life is also required now. Download and read the FAQ. Thanks for bringing that up - I missed DA in my summary and I updated the FAQ accordingly.
Dénouement Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 I think that was the intent of follower masters, DAYMOYL shouldn't do anything unless you're dying. Theoretically, a follower matter should do other stuff to you too, and was implemented so you're not stuck waiting around while the master sits in a chair eating apples occasionally. EDIT: I thought you meant if you get enslaved TO a follower. I just had Lydia enslaved me. After being enslaved to a non follower non traveling tavern bard (solitude), I'm basically done with sticky masters if I can help it.
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 Just re-asking: Question about the BleedOut Event for SD+ in the DA menu: What exactly is supposed to happen during that event, specifically? When testing the enslavement stuff a bit ago, I managed to get my character enslaved okay from what I assume is the BlackOut Event (went through the bleedout stuff where the bar gets knocked down to zero and she passes out), and stuff happened during the brief enslavement period (couple sex scenes, couple punishment). It was a little buggy (got put into pillories that spawned out of nowhere for the sex events, and at one point my character got frozen in the kneeling-shackled position while they bandits beat her up until she entered BleedOut again, at which point she got unstuck and managed to run away with the help of some friendly wolves killing them), but it seemed mostly functional. I just can figure out what the BleedOut event for SD+ is supposed to be, because nothing ever happened during any of the...probably 10 BleedOut periods my character got put into (entering BleedOut and then recovering before getting knocked down again 'cause health low). During the Bleedout event from SD, one of three things can happen. 1- Nothing ... you just bleedout for a while and get back up 2- Rape, if the right conditions are met (same as version 1.16 - some animals may rape you if you are naked or in chains, humanoid creatures and humans may rape you otherwise) 3- Enslavement - a very small chance of that happening. I may remove that option altogether if it causes too many issues. So what's supposed to happen when getting enslaved with a follower ? Because mine's just seem to keep following me The follower may get whisked away to Mistwatch (and you have to go get them) or he/she will be bound and follow you. That part will be re-written soon. I ran into a problem that I think is because of the mod: I installed all of the requirements and such for SD and the requirements for the requirements (requireception) for SD. I ran the game and it was just fine until I realized I had forgotten to get SD itself (whoops lol). I closed the game out, downloaded SD, activated it, and ran the game again. This time though, right when the Skyrim logo popped up (when it lets you select a save and all that) the game just closed on me. I don't really know what happened and if you could explain what I might have done wrong and how to fix it, that'd be great. Thanks! P.S: I don't know if this would make any difference, but I had to download the mod twice cause I cancelled it by mistake the first time (whoops again). Crash on start means you are still missing something. Try installing TES5edit - it will tell you what you are missing. Also... UNP or CBBE are required for the sweat effect and the spriggan armor. I am thinking about a way to make that more customizable in the future.
RumZ Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Goodness! =) Now I can be enslaved... phew after months of frustration. But now I am immobile when enslaved. I mean i can rotate, and nothing else. I am gratefull that now SD+ loads and I can fight for my freedom in skyrim)) But what about all those awesome quests and Sanguine watching that doesn't happen. I like my char in cuffs but how to make him move? maybe it's just a glitch AND MAYBE U HAVE SOME CONSOLE COMMANDS TO FIX IT? Just curious )) still wish to make it work perfect as all others do)) Here is sequence of mods in the MODOrganizer What should be changed?
Buffmutti Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Now i saw a Sanguine which plays to be my Bodyguard. He tried to prevent me from being enslaved. No matter how hard i tried to become enslaved. I was in Fort Amol, fought against some Mage and in that moment when i should have been enslaved the screen turned black and then i was in the dreamworld and i thought "bad timing Sanguine, very bad timing". I talked to him and he sent me back, right in front of that Mage, but the Mage was calm, so i kicked him in the nuts, he attacked me again and when he tried to enslave me Sanguine pulled me into the Dreamworld again, sent me back and this game was repeated 5 times, then i pulled the chain and fast-traveled from Riften to Fort Amol, fought again against the Mage, was "rescued" again and then i jumped back home, because i was not in the mood to repeat this until forever.
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 Goodness! =) Now I can be enslaved... phew after months of frustration. But now I am immobile when enslaved. I mean i can rotate, and nothing else. I am gratefull that now SD+ loads and I can fight for my freedom in skyrim)) But what about all those awesome quests and Sanguine watching that doesn't happen. I like my char in cuffs but how to make him move? maybe it's just a glitch AND MAYBE U HAVE SOME CONSOLE COMMANDS TO FIX IT? Just curious )) still wish to make it work perfect as all others do)) Here is sequence of mods in the MODOrganizer What should be changed? If you are stuck in place, try the surrender key (K) and see if that helps (even 'cancel' or 'resist' should help). If that doesn't, try and see if you get stuck each time you are enslaved or just that one time (reload an earlier save and try getting enslaved again). Check the settings from DA and disable Ragdoll. That shouldn't be an issue anymore but that may help. Also, the sd-dd patch is no longer useful. The latest version of SD includes it.
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 3, 2014 Author Posted June 3, 2014 Now i saw a Sanguine which plays to be my Bodyguard. He tried to prevent me from being enslaved. No matter how hard i tried to become enslaved. I was in Fort Amol, fought against some Mage and in that moment when i should have been enslaved the screen turned black and then i was in the dreamworld and i thought "bad timing Sanguine, very bad timing". I talked to him and he sent me back, right in front of that Mage, but the Mage was calm, so i kicked him in the nuts, he attacked me again and when he tried to enslave me Sanguine pulled me into the Dreamworld again, sent me back and this game was repeated 5 times, then i pulled the chain and fast-traveled from Riften to Fort Amol, fought again against the Mage, was "rescued" again and then i jumped back home, because i was not in the mood to repeat this until forever. That's a bug I need to fix. If you are enslaved with very high demerits, you go back to Dreamworld right away. While you are not enslaved, check the console: help demerits and see what is the value for _SD_GV_Demerits (or something like that). If it is not 0, set it back to 0. In the console again: set _SD_GV_Demerits to 0 That should fix it.
xgkf Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Also, the sd-dd patch is no longer useful. The latest version of SD includes it. Really now? v2.03 no longer needs that patch? Will have to remember to remove that, then.
xgkf Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Another quick question. In the recent changelog you have this line: :: Wearing a Devious Device Collar will grant you the 'I need a strong hand' dialogue to ask NPCs to enslave you. How does this work, exactly? Because I spawned myself a few of the DD collars ("Collar (Leather)" and "Collar (Leather)(Harness)") a little earlier, but neither one of those adds any such dialogue to the NPCs I talked to after putting it on (even had to spawn myself a key to remove them, <.<).
Rincewind Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 For some reason the game keep crashing for me at entrance to Sanguine realm after first enslavement and after such crash I'm no longer able to load this save directly (have to load other save first and then I can load recent one). Is by any chance Devious Devices armbinder used somewhere in Sanguine realm? Had similar problem whenever encountering this item equipped. Other than that I have no ideas, other features seem to work correctly. I had this problem even with previous version that didn't need Death Alternative. Not sure when SD+ started requiring Devious Devices but if it wasn't from the start then this is when the problem might have started for me.
Buffmutti Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Now i saw a Sanguine which plays to be my Bodyguard. He tried to prevent me from being enslaved. No matter how hard i tried to become enslaved. I was in Fort Amol, fought against some Mage and in that moment when i should have been enslaved the screen turned black and then i was in the dreamworld and i thought "bad timing Sanguine, very bad timing". I talked to him and he sent me back, right in front of that Mage, but the Mage was calm, so i kicked him in the nuts, he attacked me again and when he tried to enslave me Sanguine pulled me into the Dreamworld again, sent me back and this game was repeated 5 times, then i pulled the chain and fast-traveled from Riften to Fort Amol, fought again against the Mage, was "rescued" again and then i jumped back home, because i was not in the mood to repeat this until forever. That's a bug I need to fix. If you are enslaved with very high demerits, you go back to Dreamworld right away. While you are not enslaved, check the console: help demerits and see what is the value for _SD_GV_Demerits (or something like that). If it is not 0, set it back to 0. In the console again: set _SD_GV_Demerits to 0 That should fix it. I did this now and found 2 results: _SD_const_demerits_join = -60.00 and _SD_demerits = -90.00 I changed the second number to 0 and tried again to be enslaved by that Mage in Fort Amol. It worked, but at the same time the situation became funny. I arrived at Fort Amol, fought with the Mage, the Mage enslaved me and then ..... a Dragon attacked us and i was like "WTF?". After 1 Attack by the Dragon Sanguine rescued me (i could read that on the top left corner of the screen) and moved me away, like 100 Meters (and i was not enslaved anymore). There a Wanderer appeared and rescued me again (while the Dragon still tried to fry the Mage). I accepted the help of the Wanderer (not sure if the Wanderer is part of your SL Stories Mod) and i had a Follower. Then i opened the console, marked the Dragon and removed the damn thing with "markfordelete". Then i thought "Ok, second try", walked to the Mage and this guy was calm, called me a friend and such things. At that point i realized that i don't need a Follower, talked to the Wanderer and dismissed him, he said he would head home and i got the message that the Follower would leave my service. Guess what? He didn't leave, now i had a stalker, not a Follower. I talked 3 times with him and tried to make him leave me, he always told me that he would head home and continued to follow me. In the end i simply killed him to get rid of him. At that point i noticed that i had Sanguines Daedric Artifact in my Inventory and i thought "What the hell? Since when is this thing visible?" And then, finally, i managed to make the Mage enslave me, everything was normal again (and at the end of my enslavement the Artifact disappeared too). Sometimes Skyrim becomes a real Adventure
Velerion Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 So is Devious Devices now required or not: above it stands in the requirements, but below it says that devious devices is optional: this is a bit confusing. So required or not?
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 4, 2014 Author Posted June 4, 2014 For some reason the game keep crashing for me at entrance to Sanguine realm after first enslavement and after such crash I'm no longer able to load this save directly (have to load other save first and then I can load recent one). Is by any chance Devious Devices armbinder used somewhere in Sanguine realm? Had similar problem whenever encountering this item equipped. Other than that I have no ideas, other features seem to work correctly. I had this problem even with previous version that didn't need Death Alternative. Not sure when SD+ started requiring Devious Devices but if it wasn't from the start then this is when the problem might have started for me. I didn't make any change to Dreamworld chains yet, so there are no armbinders at this time. What does happen when you get to Dreamworld is that your PC receives some Zaz items. Make sure Zaz animation framework is updated, as well as FNIS and that you have a beteer skeleton (XPMS or the like).
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 4, 2014 Author Posted June 4, 2014 So is Devious Devices now required or not: above it stands in the requirements, but below it says that devious devices is optional: this is a bit confusing. So required or not? It is required. What do you mean by above and below? I will update the FAQ and instructions at the next update.
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