Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

[alphafr]

I have a problem, I failed a quest by coming to late for delivrery and I got the pony boots applied on me, I can't remove them or even have an option to get rid of it in dialogue, as well as I 'droped them' in order to fix it, now its just deleted from my inventory and can't do anything to remove them , any console command to do that?

[Slorm]

Some interesting suggestions in here for the future but what is coming across is that some view subs are some sort or snivelling doormat that enjoys any scumbag treading on them.

 

Many subs are in fact doms in other areas of life and being a sub is a release from that pressure and involves quite a strong bond of trust. If that trust is broken then there can be hell to pay and revenge exacted in no uncertain terms.

 

The relationship between the sub and dom is difficult to generalise and even an individual can fluctuate depending on mood and circumstance, so I feel there should be options in any new dialogue between Master and the pc after the Elenwen quest to cater for that as well. A sub can become extremely aggressive (and in this context a dom) where betrayal is involved.

[Guest]

Some interesting suggestions in here for the future but what is coming across is that some view subs are some sort or snivelling doormat that enjoys any scumbag treading on them.

 

Many subs are in fact doms in other areas of life and being a sub is a release from that pressure and involves quite a strong bond of trust. If that trust is broken then there can be hell to pay and revenge exacted in no uncertain terms.

 

The relationship between the sub and dom is difficult to generalise and even an individual can fluctuate depending on mood and circumstance, so I feel there should be options in any new dialogue between Master and the pc after the Elenwen quest to cater for that as well. A sub can become extremely aggressive (and in this context a dom) where betrayal is involved.

 

OK consider my complete noob source, but I'd think a game-Dom like whats-his-face (The devil-guy) "Sanguine" is not as attractive as say Greir or Tessa.

Reasons notwithstanding (???) they seem to have experience as subs and are better able to handle a sub, as opposed to a sphincter-holed true Dom who cares little about their charge's welfare.

Hot abusive cops wearing tight clothes look good in movies roleplaying as subs, but that's movies, so (in the game) it's, um, confusing.

Wait, did that come out right? I meant to say being a game-sub is more immersive with another game-sub.

 

Edit:

I have not figured out what "master" is.

She's too mean to be a sub, but she sometimes wears plugs. In way earlier versions she'd appear to be very submissive to others besides the player.

The mythical redeeming qualities she is supposed to have aren't apparent to me, but (so far) she is an enigma.

She isn't possessive enough to be a dom, she cares way too little to be a sub.

And what's with the bodyguard? She must feel the hate/danger from somewhere.

In my fantasy mod of the mod, Kara takes over, Master lives in the basement working off her crimes.

 

 

[Veladarius]

I have a problem, I failed a quest by coming to late for delivrery and I got the pony boots applied on me, I can't remove them or even have an option to get rid of it in dialogue, as well as I 'droped them' in order to fix it, now its just deleted from my inventory and can't do anything to remove them , any console command to do that?

 

Use Showinventory in the console, find an item with no name that shows as worn (item ending in 40f0c should be there, don't remove that) and use the command removeitem.

[Slorm]

 

OK consider my complete noob source, but I'd think a game-Dom like whats-his-face (The devil-guy) "Sanguine" is not as attractive as say Greir or Tessa.

Reasons notwithstanding (???) they seem to have experience as subs and are better able to handle a sub, as opposed to a sphincter-holed true Dom who cares little about their charge's welfare.

Hot abusive cops wearing tight clothes look good in movies roleplaying as subs, but that's movies, so (in the game) it's, um, confusing.

Wait, did that come out right? I meant to say being a game-sub is more immersive with another game-sub.

 

 

There are of course some doms who are total arseholes but many are not and develop a strong sybiosis with their sub based on trust. A sub/dom relationship fuldfills a need on both sides and there are usually set conditions beyond which niether partner would go without consent.

 

Not to get too philosophical about it as this is a mod for a game, I'm merely suggesting a range of dialogue options to cater for a number of possibilities rather than a simplistic black/white stereotype of sub/doms taken from a cheap porn vid. From a sub perspective I would suggest that Master would have broken any trust with most subs (though not all) and that should be reflected in the dialogue also.

 

It's all Vel's fault he should have written such a good story

 

 

Edit:

I have not figured out what "master" is.

She's too mean to be a sub, but she sometimes wears plugs. In way earlier versions she'd appear to be very submissive to others besides the player.

The mythical redeeming qualities she is supposed to have aren't apparent to me, but (so far) she is an enigma.

She isn't possessive enough to be a dom, she cares way too little to be a sub.

And what's with the bodyguard? She must feel the hate/danger from somewhere.

In my fantasy mod of the mod, Kara takes over, Master lives in the basement working off her crimes.

 

EDIT: sorry missed your edit. I think Master is just a cold calculating businesswoman so I'm not sure that dom or sub really apply to her in any sexual or emotional sense

[Veladarius]

 

Some interesting suggestions in here for the future but what is coming across is that some view subs are some sort or snivelling doormat that enjoys any scumbag treading on them.

 

Many subs are in fact doms in other areas of life and being a sub is a release from that pressure and involves quite a strong bond of trust. If that trust is broken then there can be hell to pay and revenge exacted in no uncertain terms.

 

The relationship between the sub and dom is difficult to generalise and even an individual can fluctuate depending on mood and circumstance, so I feel there should be options in any new dialogue between Master and the pc after the Elenwen quest to cater for that as well. A sub can become extremely aggressive (and in this context a dom) where betrayal is involved.

 

OK consider my complete noob source, but I'd think a game-Dom like whats-his-face (The devil-guy) "Sanguine" is not as attractive as say Greir or Tessa.

Reasons notwithstanding (???) they seem to have experience as subs and are better able to handle a sub, as opposed to a sphincter-holed true Dom who cares little about their charge's welfare.

Hot abusive cops wearing tight clothes look good in movies roleplaying as subs, but that's movies, so (in the game) it's, um, confusing.

Wait, did that come out right? I meant to say being a game-sub is more immersive with another game-sub.

 

 

A dom like Sanguine would not be desirable mainly for the fact that he does not care what happens to you, you are just entertainment. He is more like a cat playing with a mouse, so long as it is fun he will keep it going but once he is bored your survival depends on his whims.

 

 

 

One other thing I want to bring up as far as Dom/Sub relationships go is their difference between them and an Owner/Slave situation, while they can be similar there are a number of differences between them. A Dom/Sub relationship has limits and boundaries that need to be followed as it is a relationship between two people. The Owner/Slave has no such limits as the slave is property and has no say in what happens to them.

 

That said, the Master is the owner of the slaves in CD, she can treat them as she wishes but a large group of mistreated slave vs 1 owner usually = 1 dead owner. As such, the Master takes care of her slaves and most all do the jobs they enjoy, a happy slave is a productive slave after all. She does have more of an actual Dom/Sub relationship with a few of her slaves but these are more of a personal relationship unrelated to the Owner/Slave situation.

 

There are a number of people who believe both of these are the same and treat their Sub as property and do with them as they please. Usually these people are not looking for a relationship but someone to boss around, torment and do as they please to and don't care what happens and things usually end badly.

[Slorm]

Reminds me of a quote I once saw Vel (can't remember by whom but it may have been Julius Caesar) "If you take everything from a slave then you no longer have a slave"

[oldprv724]

 

 

 

 

Yesterday i tested the new version, it seems to work fine. I am playing with a new character and got to the point of the "demo" of gear on her. now I spent several days sleeping and making some quests and errands for master (successfully).

 

But she still refuses to remove the gear. I have also changed the player level via console to try the new expansion features but maybe the gear must be removed first?

 

I have big difficulties in combat since the arms locks make my PG very slippery with weapons! 

 

Maybe the whole "situation" of the mod is a bit to prolonged? it was nice to have finished the mod and playing in other ways waiting for the customer to appear on certain days, but with gear on the PG it is a bit too long the wait and also difficult to play normally cause the penalties they give and the -20% on the XP progression.

 

The more submissive you are the less chance of her removing them, if you are more submissive than when she put them on you then there is no chance to get them off. Once you are no completely submissive (slightly submissive in the ledger) she will remove them when the time comes.

 

 

 

I'd like to offer my own criticism and say the required time of a week is way to long. This quest prevents a lot of Devious Devices mods from having any functional use and even makes captured dreams as a shop completely useless. It's a interesting idea, but prevents my character from getting stuck in the more interesting devices for a long period of time.

 

 

I'll second the frustration with a week as the minimum time in the devices for the free trial.  I do like going through the dialog with the master, but I'm so crippled for that week+ (Bra -> can't milk myself for Milk Mod Economy, Belt -> Can't impregnate myself with more Soul Gem Oven gems, etc.) that I usually just sit somewhere and go through a week of T<Wait> until the time's up, then hope the master doesn't tell me "just a little more time".

 

Can I suggest an MCM slider to set the base # of days until the master removes the devices as well as a check-box to ignore the submissive-level check?   

 

Finally, I can't let my only post to this mod be a complaint/criticism without saying that Captured Dreams is a great mod and to thank Veladarius for all the hard work. 

[Guest]

 

 

Some interesting suggestions in here for the future but what is coming across is that some view subs are some sort or snivelling doormat that enjoys any scumbag treading on them.

 

Many subs are in fact doms in other areas of life and being a sub is a release from that pressure and involves quite a strong bond of trust. If that trust is broken then there can be hell to pay and revenge exacted in no uncertain terms.

 

The relationship between the sub and dom is difficult to generalise and even an individual can fluctuate depending on mood and circumstance, so I feel there should be options in any new dialogue between Master and the pc after the Elenwen quest to cater for that as well. A sub can become extremely aggressive (and in this context a dom) where betrayal is involved.

 

OK consider my complete noob source, but I'd think a game-Dom like whats-his-face (The devil-guy) "Sanguine" is not as attractive as say Greir or Tessa.

Reasons notwithstanding (???) they seem to have experience as subs and are better able to handle a sub, as opposed to a sphincter-holed true Dom who cares little about their charge's welfare.

Hot abusive cops wearing tight clothes look good in movies roleplaying as subs, but that's movies, so (in the game) it's, um, confusing.

Wait, did that come out right? I meant to say being a game-sub is more immersive with another game-sub.

 

 

A dom like Sanguine would not be desirable mainly for the fact that he does not care what happens to you, you are just entertainment. He is more like a cat playing with a mouse, so long as it is fun he will keep it going but once he is bored your survival depends on his whims.

 

 

 

One other thing I want to bring up as far as Dom/Sub relationships go is their difference between them and an Owner/Slave situation, while they can be similar there are a number of differences between them. A Dom/Sub relationship has limits and boundaries that need to be followed as it is a relationship between two people. The Owner/Slave has no such limits as the slave is property and has no say in what happens to them.

 

That said, the Master is the owner of the slaves in CD, she can treat them as she wishes but a large group of mistreated slave vs 1 owner usually = 1 dead owner. As such, the Master takes care of her slaves and most all do the jobs they enjoy, a happy slave is a productive slave after all. She does have more of an actual Dom/Sub relationship with a few of her slaves but these are more of a personal relationship unrelated to the Owner/Slave situation.

 

There are a number of people who believe both of these are the same and treat their Sub as property and do with them as they please. Usually these people are not looking for a relationship but someone to boss around, torment and do as they please to and don't care what happens and things usually end badly.

 

 

There are mods referring to SD+ that mention many whippings, and cages. OK that was confusing but I ran here to tell you about a mod that makes cages for SD. Only the author seems to like getting whipped upon exiting the cage.

  OK So I liked the cage idea, and you said you did as well, but skip the whippings.

Someone *else* decided to sit in a chair and spank people.

OK *That* looks totally hot, not that I'm advocating corporal punishment or anything....

I only mean to say that there are mods galore to cut + paste into your mod.

 

So lose the whips, maybe, and have people spanked instead?

 

Master could (For example)

lay you over her knee, stroke your thighs, say "You're Mine!!" in-between swats.

It's, um, immersive and not a lot of mod-work. 

 

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

 

Some interesting suggestions in here for the future but what is coming across is that some view subs are some sort or snivelling doormat that enjoys any scumbag treading on them.

 

Many subs are in fact doms in other areas of life and being a sub is a release from that pressure and involves quite a strong bond of trust. If that trust is broken then there can be hell to pay and revenge exacted in no uncertain terms.

 

The relationship between the sub and dom is difficult to generalise and even an individual can fluctuate depending on mood and circumstance, so I feel there should be options in any new dialogue between Master and the pc after the Elenwen quest to cater for that as well. A sub can become extremely aggressive (and in this context a dom) where betrayal is involved.

 

OK consider my complete noob source, but I'd think a game-Dom like whats-his-face (The devil-guy) "Sanguine" is not as attractive as say Greir or Tessa.

Reasons notwithstanding (???) they seem to have experience as subs and are better able to handle a sub, as opposed to a sphincter-holed true Dom who cares little about their charge's welfare.

Hot abusive cops wearing tight clothes look good in movies roleplaying as subs, but that's movies, so (in the game) it's, um, confusing.

Wait, did that come out right? I meant to say being a game-sub is more immersive with another game-sub.

 

 

A dom like Sanguine would not be desirable mainly for the fact that he does not care what happens to you, you are just entertainment. He is more like a cat playing with a mouse, so long as it is fun he will keep it going but once he is bored your survival depends on his whims.

 

 

 

One other thing I want to bring up as far as Dom/Sub relationships go is their difference between them and an Owner/Slave situation, while they can be similar there are a number of differences between them. A Dom/Sub relationship has limits and boundaries that need to be followed as it is a relationship between two people. The Owner/Slave has no such limits as the slave is property and has no say in what happens to them.

 

That said, the Master is the owner of the slaves in CD, she can treat them as she wishes but a large group of mistreated slave vs 1 owner usually = 1 dead owner. As such, the Master takes care of her slaves and most all do the jobs they enjoy, a happy slave is a productive slave after all. She does have more of an actual Dom/Sub relationship with a few of her slaves but these are more of a personal relationship unrelated to the Owner/Slave situation.

 

There are a number of people who believe both of these are the same and treat their Sub as property and do with them as they please. Usually these people are not looking for a relationship but someone to boss around, torment and do as they please to and don't care what happens and things usually end badly.

 

 

 

There are mods referring to SD+ that mention many whippings, and cages. OK that was confusing but I ran here to tell you about a mod that makes cages for SD. Only the author seems to like getting whipped upon exiting the cage.

  OK So I liked the cage idea, and you said you did as well, but skip the whippings.

Someone *else* decided to sit in a chair and spank people.

OK *That* looks totally hot, not that I'm advocating corporal punishment or anything....

I only mean to say that there are mods galore to cut + paste into your mod.

 

So lose the whips, maybe, and have people spanked instead?

 

Master could (For example)

lay you over her knee, stroke your thighs, say "You're Mine!!" in-between swats.

It's, um, immersive and not a lot of mod-work. 

 

 

I think being put over someone's lap and spanked is a bit more personal than whipping them on a post (I do like the animation of it as well). I don't know if that animation is part of SexLab as of yet, once it is (and I figure out SexLab better) I will make use of it.

[Shadowgen101]

Hello, it's me again. I've come a bit further and came upon a small issue ( I have to stress that I love this mod the more immersed I get ). I've apparently done enough good and been given care of a slave with the name Erani and my PC would like to "sample" the goods. I equip the ring and remove her items but the model doesn't reflect that. Anything I can do to change it visually? I tried to give her a gag and that worked on/off but not her standard gear ( except the maid uniform ).

 

Thanks in advance and for your patience.

[big tim]

Finished Diplomatic Immunity and a lot less Thalmor in Skyrim, felt great for my dom character. Heaven help the ones I find elsewhere.

 

This play through, my character can not find a reason to want to go back to THAT WOMAN. Elisef is forever free and sorry Erani, no rescue coming. This playing on the assumption that you do not know the future and why go back to be taken advantage of again like that. Even the Master has a line about if you choose to come back or not.

 

That's why, if possible to incorporate some dialog at the conclusion of the Thalmor quest is needed to satisfy your rage.

 

My character is no saint by any means, Cursed Loot puts one in situations that is not good but that is my greed that gets me into those situations by looting everything. But that is my choice is the difference as a dom character.

 

Next play through, I will be a submissive and fail missions on purpose or answer badly just to be punished and wishing for more punishment options or return visits to Elenwen from you. Most of my play throughs have been submissive and loved it wanting more.

 

As long as I am true to my characters mindset, then it is a successful game play, regardless of what I complete or not. That is what roleplaying is, is my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own.

 

This is a must have Skyrim mod and I love it and we are all pretty passionate about it and care, so keep up the great work Veladarius and look forward to expansions.

 

Thanks so much.

 

 

[Veladarius]

Hello, it's me again. I've come a bit further and came upon a small issue ( I have to stress that I love this mod the more immersed I get ). I've apparently done enough good and been given care of a slave with the name Erani and my PC would like to "sample" the goods. I equip the ring and remove her items but the model doesn't reflect that. Anything I can do to change it visually? I tried to give her a gag and that worked on/off but not her standard gear ( except the maid uniform ).

 

Thanks in advance and for your patience.

 

Open their inventory and remove any duplicate restraints, it is an issue with adding them and making them part of her outfit.

[Shadowgen101]

 

Hello, it's me again. I've come a bit further and came upon a small issue ( I have to stress that I love this mod the more immersed I get ). I've apparently done enough good and been given care of a slave with the name Erani and my PC would like to "sample" the goods. I equip the ring and remove her items but the model doesn't reflect that. Anything I can do to change it visually? I tried to give her a gag and that worked on/off but not her standard gear ( except the maid uniform ).

 

Thanks in advance and for your patience.

 

Open their inventory and remove any duplicate restraints, it is an issue with adding them and making them part of her outfit.

 

 

I've tried to remove everything but the plugs can't be removed because of the belt and I can't see the belt. I guess it could be solved with some consol witch craft but I'm not familiar with it so I'll just try and move on. From an RP point of view, Master could have given me a fake ring because she doesn't fully trust me yet ( I have some debt left and my performance is below Her standards )

[Veladarius]

 

 

Hello, it's me again. I've come a bit further and came upon a small issue ( I have to stress that I love this mod the more immersed I get ). I've apparently done enough good and been given care of a slave with the name Erani and my PC would like to "sample" the goods. I equip the ring and remove her items but the model doesn't reflect that. Anything I can do to change it visually? I tried to give her a gag and that worked on/off but not her standard gear ( except the maid uniform ).

 

Thanks in advance and for your patience.

 

Open their inventory and remove any duplicate restraints, it is an issue with adding them and making them part of her outfit.

 

 

I've tried to remove everything but the plugs can't be removed because of the belt and I can't see the belt. I guess it could be solved with some consol witch craft but I'm not familiar with it so I'll just try and move on. From an RP point of view, Master could have given me a fake ring because she doesn't fully trust me yet ( I have some debt left and my performance is below Her standards )

 

 

If you use AFT or UFO you can use the function to see her Outfit and remove them that way.

[Verstort]

Punishment idea: If you get sent to jail while belted or on specific quests, add punishment scene since master won't be happy and she has the political capital to get you returned to her from jail. You could limit it to only certain quests or at certain reputation/disposition/ect

 

Reason: Belt might get in the way of other mods in this area, integrates into CD, provides another way to fail quests and change reputation with master.

 

As for implementation, should be as simple as adding a few lines of dialog like you did with immerslave start. I wish there was another way to get arrested than to ask to be arrested when a guard force greets, but the punishment could be expanded to other situations

 

So long as you can turn it off in the MCM menu it shouldn't get in the way of any other mods right?

 

Edit: similarly, if there was a way to get a return to master punishment event in death alternative, although I hate that mod, it doesn't seem to be going anywhere soon, which integrates CD more into the combat, and makes losing in combat CD specific instead of DD specific, since CD limits DD interaction when wearing CD gear.

 

I know your time is even more limited now that you have a full time job again, I just thought it might be cool to change some default game events to CD events since CD+DD can make them absurd and game events might be easy to hijack, since they happen sans writing the trigger yourself.

[Verstort]

3.8 lesser bug: "RD-Locking Ebonite Slave Harness" blocks the CD harness from being equiped at start of ExpQuest02

 

Just in case you haven't run into it yet, and I'm not entirely sure this harness isn't fairly new since I only found it recently, if PC is wearing this harness the CD harness is never put on because you can't stack harnesses, and I guess your item check missed it. Plugs fall out, and CD harness is not in inventory.

 

The item was xx01333d for me, load order pointed at DDa as the mod it's from.

[BoristheMouse]

Turning off SexLab romance seems to have worked,and I got through the Embassy parts with minimal problems. I can only hope my character will be rid of ALL these unremovable thingies that freeze you up in odd moments eventually. A male infested with a clit ring seems like Insult to injury. Otherwise...Having Fun!

 

Thanks!

[bathoz]

I'm sure I would have enjoyed the embassy more if it hadn't taken a real life day of load and saving and loading to get through it. Well written, fun stuff. But the frustration at my load of Skyrim just collapsing at the merest hint of a problem (and then having a dragon spawn over me while I was back at the manor and interrupting that conversation) was... ug. Maybe move the 'they're back' indoors?

 

UG!

[ClawDraconia]

Regarding the mod,

I think there is a big difference between a Dom/sub relationship in our world and a Master/slave relationship in Skyrim.

Don't forget in skyrim you can kill people without any problem and sometimes even get rewards from it.

 

I can understand the very first time you do a job for Master, you are not expecting her to treat you as she do, but why would a dominant character come back to be treated that way? Unless you need Master to remove some of the devices you find equiped on you along the way... and unless you have the gold to pay Master, you are now in debt with Master. And as this debt have a strange tendency to go higher and higher, specially if you use mods like cursed loot or enchanted chests it seems that your relationship with Master is not close to end soon.

 

In a world like Skyrim, we can easily imagine when you are in debt with someone, this someone  owns the right of life or death over you, so, it seems quite reasonable, that even the most dominant character, must come back to Master, (this even after the Thalmor Embassy quest... even if you are really pissed about Master, you still owe him big amount, right?).

 

Suggestion for Gameplay, as you owe Master, you should show you do what you can to pay her back.So, you must once a week do a task for her, or pay her a fixed percentage of what you owe her. In case you don't appear, Master will be in right to fix a Bounty on you, and if the debt is big enough, have you shipped back to her store. (After all  Master is well connected, and it seems reasonable she have the means to do such thing).

 

 

 

 

 

[Veladarius]

Punishment idea: If you get sent to jail while belted or on specific quests, add punishment scene since master won't be happy and she has the political capital to get you returned to her from jail. You could limit it to only certain quests or at certain reputation/disposition/ect

 

Reason: Belt might get in the way of other mods in this area, integrates into CD, provides another way to fail quests and change reputation with master.

 

As for implementation, should be as simple as adding a few lines of dialog like you did with immerslave start. I wish there was another way to get arrested than to ask to be arrested when a guard force greets, but the punishment could be expanded to other situations

 

So long as you can turn it off in the MCM menu it shouldn't get in the way of any other mods right?

 

Edit: similarly, if there was a way to get a return to master punishment event in death alternative, although I hate that mod, it doesn't seem to be going anywhere soon, which integrates CD more into the combat, and makes losing in combat CD specific instead of DD specific, since CD limits DD interaction when wearing CD gear.

 

I know your time is even more limited now that you have a full time job again, I just thought it might be cool to change some default game events to CD events since CD+DD can make them absurd and game events might be easy to hijack, since they happen sans writing the trigger yourself.

see below

 

Regarding the mod,

I think there is a big difference between a Dom/sub relationship in our world and a Master/slave relationship in Skyrim.

Don't forget in skyrim you can kill people without any problem and sometimes even get rewards from it.

 

I can understand the very first time you do a job for Master, you are not expecting her to treat you as she do, but why would a dominant character come back to be treated that way? Unless you need Master to remove some of the devices you find equiped on you along the way... and unless you have the gold to pay Master, you are now in debt with Master. And as this debt have a strange tendency to go higher and higher, specially if you use mods like cursed loot or enchanted chests it seems that your relationship with Master is not close to end soon.

 

In a world like Skyrim, we can easily imagine when you are in debt with someone, this someone  owns the right of life or death over you, so, it seems quite reasonable, that even the most dominant character, must come back to Master, (this even after the Thalmor Embassy quest... even if you are really pissed about Master, you still owe him big amount, right?).

 

Suggestion for Gameplay, as you owe Master, you should show you do what you can to pay her back.So, you must once a week do a task for her, or pay her a fixed percentage of what you owe her. In case you don't appear, Master will be in right to fix a Bounty on you, and if the debt is big enough, have you shipped back to her store. (After all  Master is well connected, and it seems reasonable she have the means to do such thing).

 

 

 

I am working on figuring out the Jail mechanics so I can set up my own, so far the mechanic for sending you to jail isn't too hard but arresting the player has been a real pain to get working. I was working on setting it up before the release of v3 and had the cell and such set up but the arrest dialogue is difficult to set properly. The cell in the basement by the door is what that is for.

Once I figure out the jail system sufficiently I may be able to make something to get the player out of jail early if on a quest from the Master, with consequences of course.

 

A Death Alternative plug in isn't a bad idea depending on if I can have the CD module always activate when on a delivery. Playing with it with SD+ has shown me that the settings used with DA need changed quite a bit from the default for it to work satisfactorily with SD+ (At least for me).

 

Being in debt to the Master and what happens will be changing in v4. Likely once you hit the high debt limit she will keep any fees you earn on jobs until you are below that amount. Once you are a slave it will change further as the incentive to pay he back to get the belt removed is no longer there since you will be wearing one of her belts all the time anyways. I have a system in mind to earn reward points to spend on things and this is one thing to spend them on, otherwise you will submit to a punishment to get them removed (minor one).

[Veladarius]

Turning off SexLab romance seems to have worked,and I got through the Embassy parts with minimal problems. I can only hope my character will be rid of ALL these unremovable thingies that freeze you up in odd moments eventually. A male infested with a clit ring seems like Insult to injury. Otherwise...Having Fun!

 

Thanks!

 

The piercings should not have been placed on you if you are playing a male character, there is alternate dialogue and such for that. All the ebonite restraints will be removed at the end of the quest

 

 

I'm sure I would have enjoyed the embassy more if it hadn't taken a real life day of load and saving and loading to get through it. Well written, fun stuff. But the frustration at my load of Skyrim just collapsing at the merest hint of a problem (and then having a dragon spawn over me while I was back at the manor and interrupting that conversation) was... ug. Maybe move the 'they're back' indoors?

 

UG!

 

If you crash more than once then check your papyrus logs for repeating errors, the most stressful scripts that are run are for SexLab and most everything else is minor.

 

As for a dragon spawining the npc's can handle it, Master and Elenwen are both level 50 with a 100 Destruction and a number of perks and spells. Usually when they spawn during the end they are killed rather quickly.

[r5e4w3q2]

I am having an odd problem with 3.80 full

 

Started a new game, first delivery quest went fine.  Second delivery quest though is having problems. Halfway though getting the second delivery quest she is walking away from me.  I have tried reloading and exiting and re-entering the shop, but she never finishes her dialog. Always breaks right after equipping the gear on me, but before the pop-up box that would say that is what she is doing pops up.

 

Papyrus log isn't showing any errors, I have the Zad Messages about equipping the gear, but nothing from CD as far as I can tell.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Veladarius]

I am having an odd problem with 3.80 full

 

Started a new game, first delivery quest went fine.  Second delivery quest though is having problems. Halfway though getting the second delivery quest she is walking away from me.  I have tried reloading and exiting and re-entering the shop, but she never finishes her dialog. Always breaks right after equipping the gear on me, but before the pop-up box that would say that is what she is doing pops up.

 

Papyrus log isn't showing any errors, I have the Zad Messages about equipping the gear, but nothing from CD as far as I can tell.

 

Are you using one of the dialogue options of ... ? They are a dialogue option that is used automatically if you drop out of dialogue and should not be selected.

 

Beyond that it may be a mod that is interrupting the dialogue and trying to do something with either you or her. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary in the log that would cause it.

[r5e4w3q2]

 

 

Are you using one of the dialogue options of ... ? They are a dialogue option that is used automatically if you drop out of dialogue and should not be selected.

 

Beyond that it may be a mod that is interrupting the dialogue and trying to do something with either you or her. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary in the log that would cause it.

 

 

Yes?  There is a dialogue option of "..." but it is the only option and if I don't pick it we just stand around looking at each other.

 

Sorry, I can't alt-tab out of the game so not direct quotes but something along the lines of:

 

"I was hoping you would take that job"

...

"First things first."

Is something wrong?

"This delivery is worth a lot of gold, I need some insurance."

"Hold still a moment"

 

Then the chastity belt quest starts, and she walks away.

 

Edited to add:

I also tried kicking the follower outside so they wouldn't get in the way, T-waiting to different times of the day, stripping so nothing could be getting in the way of equipping the gear. I tried resetting the job in the mcm menu.

 

No new mods between the first and the second delivery so unsure what could be getting in the way this time.

 

Something that is different that may be related, 3 days after I did the first delivery I headed back to the shop and was confused when she didn't offer a delivery, checked the mcm menu and realized it defaulted to the longer cooldown and changed that, then T-waited 24 hours and she had the job.