Guest Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Sitting here playing and watching a low budget movie about mind-control on Showtime, I remembered the little blurb that used to say "You feel a sudden desire to obey". Does it only say that once? I remember more the shiver up my spine and hoping She didn't notice, now. All that piddly stuff with Herran and the hoverers would be a lot more palatable with a little mind-control to help it go down. This movie plays out like a low-budget nightmare, I'm gonna go back to the peace+ tranquility of getting a chastity belt I bought off (no keys work, "showinventory-removeitem" is useless). ("Unequipall" works, but then it magically pops back on again)
Tallis Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Hi. I'm having difficulty with the Elisif quest. Elisif first refused to put the gear on and told me to come back in a few hours. I started walking out of the room in the back there, by the table, and she followed me and a dialogue menu popped up saying she would equip the gear but wanted to shut and lock the door first. The dialogue ended there and nothing progressed. I stayed around in the back room of castle and went through the dialogue a few times more times with her, but it was just the same looping dialogue over and over. I got frustrated and ran away out of the castle and subsequently some of the third person animations failed to run fully, such as using a tanning rack, using the cooking pot, grindstone, etc. The menu for these interactions would pop up for a couple of seconds and then disappear so I couldn't do some of the crafting. I'm trying to role play this so my question is if I become thane of Solitude will I then be able to complete this quest or will I need to use console commands? The point where the dialogue ended she should have gone to the door and you would have waited a moment then collected the items on the table and moved to the bed. If you have control of your character then something interrupted it, go back to her and disable the player control in the CD MCM menu on the reset page, the scene will NOT advance so long as you still have control. Okay, phew. I got through it using the disable player control. It's not one of my favorite quests but I'm glad to get it done with. Thanks for your help.
Veladarius Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 Sitting here playing and watching a low budget movie about mind-control on Showtime, I remembered the little blurb that used to say "You feel a sudden desire to obey". Does it only say that once? I remember more the shiver up my spine and hoping She didn't notice, now. All that piddly stuff with Herran and the hoverers would be a lot more palatable with a little mind-control to help it go down. This movie plays out like a low-budget nightmare, I'm gonna go back to the peace+ tranquility of getting a chastity belt I bought off (no keys work, "showinventory-removeitem" is useless). ("Unequipall" works, but then it magically pops back on again) The best mind control is subtle, get the target to think that the things you want them to do is their idea and they will never break free. This method takes time but rushing it just makes it easier for them to resist. If the belt is 'broken' first try removing any unused belts from your inventory then try putting the one you have on into a container. Putting the inventory part of the belt will get the worn part to replace the inventory part (though it sounds like that was done already). You can remove it manually in the console: First, use showinventory in the console and find the worn part of the belt, it will be an item that has no name but shows as worn. Remove it with the console. Second, once the worn part is confirmed removed (no longer shows on your character) open the inventory menu and unequip the belt (it should do it without the menu coming up). Third, since the belt quest is likely still active equip another belt and remove it with a key (it should work properly now) so the belt quest will end. I have done this a few times with no issues, just make sure to do the third part or there could be lingering effects.
roykupzz12 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I encountered a bug during the scene where a guard pours water on the PC to wake her up (after the guard party where AIlus fists the PC). What happens is as the guard leaves, the door closes before he can get out. the result, he's stuck in there with me. the other guard, the one who will talk to me about Ailus will activate, but we would be stuck in a loop, he'll just keep talking to me saying the same dialog over and over. i was able to continue by using the console to unlock the door, thus allowing the guard that's stuck in the cell with me to exit, after that i closed the door, then let the other guard talk to me again. fortunately he was no longer in the loop and the chair let me continue with the next script. Sometimes the part of the door that blocks people from going through it 'disconnects' from the visible part, that is what keeps him from leaving quickly enough. The scene is set that he should be at a location outside the cell before the door is closed. The dialogue repeats since that is part of the same phase where the guard in the cell gets to where he is supposed to be, once he does the dialogue package ends. from what i can observe, what happens in my case is the door closes the moment the guard gets 1-2 steps out of the cell. but since the door closes inwards, it pushes him back in as it snaps close, hehehe stupid guard
rypley Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 hello I have a lot of problem with the quest "elewen" (cdt, virtual c++ error, etc....) I tried several times, problems usually come before a sex scene. I reinstalled the game, etc... I can not pass this quest. I would like ti continue using this mod that I like, but I would have to pass this quest. There is an option to move the quest with the console ? (I must admit that after two week I am tired to trying to pass this quest)
dsfargeg222 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 hello I have a lot of problem with the quest "elewen" (cdt, virtual c++ error, etc....) I tried several times, problems usually come before a sex scene. I reinstalled the game, etc... I can not pass this quest. I would like ti continue using this mod that I like, but I would have to pass this quest. There is an option to move the quest with the console ? (I must admit that after two week I am tired to trying to pass this quest) I had the same issue(s), turned out I didn't have the latest sexlab release.
rypley Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I have the latest version of sexlab... this is probably another mod that make bug... I'm just a little tired of shearshing...
Veladarius Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 I have the latest version of sexlab... this is probably another mod that make bug... I'm just a little tired of shearshing... The C++ error is triggered by SexLab, at the point that it happens My mod is not doing anything and has handed all control over to SexLab. As with the quest in the Thamor Embassy you can save just before the sex scene happens and if it crashes then reload from there.
big tim Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 A couple things this run through. 1. The Jarl quest for Falkreath worked this time with Dengeir. I did not activate Hearthfires ad went to talk to him before starting the quest. Maybe that recognizes him as Jarl. First time it worked for me, otherwise I had no reference for the Jarl. 2. Playing Cursed Loot and have the Slave Collar Quest going and the Master won't give any delivery or recovery quests while wearing other restraints. I am afraid the slave collar is on for a while, anywhere from 10 to 50 days depending on the random number. So, as I am only wearing a collar that can't come off yet, is there anyway to get the Master to instead of a collar change to a bra instead or remove the slave collar and put it on after the delivery quest is done? These are 2 great mods and hopefully can work together. Thanks.
Veladarius Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 A couple things this run through. 1. The Jarl quest for Falkreath worked this time with Dengeir. I did not activate Hearthfires ad went to talk to him before starting the quest. Maybe that recognizes him as Jarl. First time it worked for me, otherwise I had no reference for the Jarl. 2. Playing Cursed Loot and have the Slave Collar Quest going and the Master won't give any delivery or recovery quests while wearing other restraints. I am afraid the slave collar is on for a while, anywhere from 10 to 50 days depending on the random number. So, as I am only wearing a collar that can't come off yet, is there anyway to get the Master to instead of a collar change to a bra instead or remove the slave collar and put it on after the delivery quest is done? These are 2 great mods and hopefully can work together. Thanks. I will be removing the requirement for not having a collar belt for tasks so long as you are not disliked with the next update (last one before I begin work on the next set of quests). There are a few other fixes I have made, mostly minor and Coopervane is doing some updates to the textures for the silver and bronze items (they look pretty good so far). I don't have an estimate for when the update will be released though, it depends on when they are ready and I am not going to rush it.
Mart0206 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Hi Veladarius, i have noticed since i have the 3.7x Version inl. the V3 Version of the expansion esp Files (in my case SVS Jew. and calpyps sextoys) they are not worn by the npc´s (master, assistent and slaves) neither sold. The npc selling different jewelery typs usually sells the whole svs collection, but they didn´t show up. first i thought a load order problem, but it isn´t. all esp files came after the captured Dream main file. What can i do?
Mister E Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Obligatory "this mod is so awesome" statement. It really is! Now for the obligatory complaint/suggestion. I'm now playing a new character, and things might have changed since I last did the Thalmor Embassy quest so please forgive me if I'm a wrong idiot who's wrong. When I was ordered to do it the first time my character had not even been able to go and see the Greybeards yet, let alone do the Diplomatic Immunity quest. This created a bit of an immersion-breaking plot hole: Elenwen doesn't recognize you? She spent three days torturing and fucking you! I'd really like to see that particular quest deliberately delayed until after you've crashed her party. It would just make more sense. (Again, ignore me if that's already been done.)
aqqh Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Obligatory "this mod is so awesome" statement. It really is! Now for the obligatory complaint/suggestion. I'm now playing a new character, and things might have changed since I last did the Thalmor Embassy quest so please forgive me if I'm a wrong idiot who's wrong. When I was ordered to do it the first time my character had not even been able to go and see the Greybeards yet, let alone do the Diplomatic Immunity quest. This created a bit of an immersion-breaking plot hole: Elenwen doesn't recognize you? She spent three days torturing and fucking you! I'd really like to see that particular quest deliberately delayed until after you've crashed her party. It would just make more sense. (Again, ignore me if that's already been done.) This would actually lead to a lot of additional work - especially that diplomatic immunity quest can have various outcomes (you can bootlick Elenwen or tell her to get lost). You can play it before expansion quest or after... What's more - it doesn't seem like main quest is very popular these days... some people can complain when you force them to play at least Helgen not to say almost whole dragon quest... On top of that diplomatic immunity quest is optional. If you complete civil war before that point in dragon quest - those negotiations simply never take place. so my personal opinion - its not worth it. guess i do confused quests... been a while since i did any of those But still. if she would recognize you as spy during main quest party imo only reasonable outcome would be that she wouldn't ever let you leave embassy alive. Additionally messing with main quests like that is a very bad idea. So maybe the other way around - if you play that main quest party before expansion quest. But still after that point you are number one on her most wanted list. And she would just let you go because she gave a word to master? Somehow it doesn't sound convincing.
Imatterial Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 If you like immersion, you could just visit the 'face-sculptor' in the Ragged Flagon and change your character's appearance before the Embassy, would explain why she doesn't recognise you and doesn't require a load of modding to be done.
Slorm Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 On top of that diplomatic immunity quest is optional. If you complete civil war before that point in dragon quest - those negotiations simply never take place. Diplomatic Immunity is one of the earliest quests (at the Thalmor Embassy), I think you're thinking of Season Unending which happens in the last part of the game. It would be a nice touch to have a reference to the pc by Elenwen if Diplomatic Immunity had been done, but not if it would involve a lot of work
Coopervane Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 (they look pretty good so far) Damning with faint praise i see
Guest Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 aqqh et al: I like it the way it is, she's uninteresting enough already. I'm rooting for a quest involving hermaeus mora. His voice alone makes a person submissive or slightly insane. (Speaking of insane, I just tried a mod with several reams of backstory but no apparent point. Unless there was a special question I was supposed to ask that I never got around to). um nevermind. O yeah... Bootlicking.
Mister E Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 If you like immersion, you could just visit the 'face-sculptor' in the Ragged Flagon and change your character's appearance before the Embassy, would explain why she doesn't recognise you and doesn't require a load of modding to be done. I'm not a modder so I wouldn't know for sure, but would it really take that much work? Just add a check not to start that quest until Diplomatic Immunity is marked complete. Would that not work?
big tim Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 A couple things this run through. 1. The Jarl quest for Falkreath worked this time with Dengeir. I did not activate Hearthfires ad went to talk to him before starting the quest. Maybe that recognizes him as Jarl. First time it worked for me, otherwise I had no reference for the Jarl. 2. Playing Cursed Loot and have the Slave Collar Quest going and the Master won't give any delivery or recovery quests while wearing other restraints. I am afraid the slave collar is on for a while, anywhere from 10 to 50 days depending on the random number. So, as I am only wearing a collar that can't come off yet, is there anyway to get the Master to instead of a collar change to a bra instead or remove the slave collar and put it on after the delivery quest is done? These are 2 great mods and hopefully can work together. Thanks. I will be removing the requirement for not having a collar belt for tasks so long as you are not disliked with the next update (last one before I begin work on the next set of quests). There are a few other fixes I have made, mostly minor and Coopervane is doing some updates to the textures for the silver and bronze items (they look pretty good so far). I don't have an estimate for when the update will be released though, it depends on when they are ready and I am not going to rush it. That would be great, thanks. I will find out in a few game days if it will affect the 2nd expansion quest, which I think it will. Well Elenwen will just have to occupy herself until I am free of the Slave Collar. Thanks for making the change to keep both mods flowing together. P.S. Jobs prospects any better? Hoping for you.
PubliusNV Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 hello I have a lot of problem with the quest "elewen" (cdt, virtual c++ error, etc....) I tried several times, problems usually come before a sex scene. I reinstalled the game, etc... I can not pass this quest. I would like ti continue using this mod that I like, but I would have to pass this quest. There is an option to move the quest with the console ? (I must admit that after two week I am tired to trying to pass this quest) I had the same CTD and/or C++ error with the first Elewen sex scene in the quest. Crashed the first 3 times I tried it, until I reran FNIS. I realized that I had updated ZAP with a patch and had forgotten to run it. Then the whole quest worked ok. Hope this helps.
Veladarius Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 Obligatory "this mod is so awesome" statement. It really is! Now for the obligatory complaint/suggestion. I'm now playing a new character, and things might have changed since I last did the Thalmor Embassy quest so please forgive me if I'm a wrong idiot who's wrong. When I was ordered to do it the first time my character had not even been able to go and see the Greybeards yet, let alone do the Diplomatic Immunity quest. This created a bit of an immersion-breaking plot hole: Elenwen doesn't recognize you? She spent three days torturing and fucking you! I'd really like to see that particular quest deliberately delayed until after you've crashed her party. It would just make more sense. (Again, ignore me if that's already been done.) This would actually lead to a lot of additional work - especially that diplomatic immunity quest can have various outcomes (you can bootlick Elenwen or tell her to get lost). You can play it before expansion quest or after... What's more - it doesn't seem like main quest is very popular these days... some people can complain when you force them to play at least Helgen not to say almost whole dragon quest... On top of that diplomatic immunity quest is optional. If you complete civil war before that point in dragon quest - those negotiations simply never take place. so my personal opinion - its not worth it. guess i do confused quests... been a while since i did any of those But still. if she would recognize you as spy during main quest party imo only reasonable outcome would be that she wouldn't ever let you leave embassy alive. Additionally messing with main quests like that is a very bad idea. So maybe the other way around - if you play that main quest party before expansion quest. But still after that point you are number one on her most wanted list. And she would just let you go because she gave a word to master? Somehow it doesn't sound convincing. Changing the quest isn't that difficult to do, it is a matter of what exactly to do. Likely it may be that she recognizes you (and may greet you as such if I change things) but does not recognize you as the Dragonborn or is more interested in seeing what you are going to do. She has had little success in rooting out the Blades and what is going on so why not use you to get things moving? hello I have a lot of problem with the quest "elewen" (cdt, virtual c++ error, etc....) I tried several times, problems usually come before a sex scene. I reinstalled the game, etc... I can not pass this quest. I would like ti continue using this mod that I like, but I would have to pass this quest. There is an option to move the quest with the console ? (I must admit that after two week I am tired to trying to pass this quest) I had the same CTD and/or C++ error with the first Elewen sex scene in the quest. Crashed the first 3 times I tried it, until I reran FNIS. I realized that I had updated ZAP with a patch and had forgotten to run it. Then the whole quest worked ok. Hope this helps. I think the crash is rooted in an issue with some animations but I think that the ones that cause it depends on the sex of the actors. Some people have no issues with the Scene with Elenwen (where I regularly crash) but do with the 2 guards in the basement (I rarely crash there). Also, I have this feeling that Integration has a lingering effect on SexLab as every time I load a save between the point where the harness is removed and the first scene with Elenwen I can go through the entire thing (all 14 sex scenes) without a crash. Truthfully, it bugs the hell out of me that it crashes consistently yet the process that I am starting the scenes is the same in every one and I can't see what, if anything, I am doing to cause it.
rypley Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I have the latest version of sexlab... this is probably another mod that make bug... I'm just a little tired of shearshing... The C++ error is triggered by SexLab, at the point that it happens My mod is not doing anything and has handed all control over to SexLab. As with the quest in the Thamor Embassy you can save just before the sex scene happens and if it crashes then reload from there. thank you, I Wonder if "Non-SexLab Animation" is the cause of the crash
Veladarius Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 I have the latest version of sexlab... this is probably another mod that make bug... I'm just a little tired of shearshing... The C++ error is triggered by SexLab, at the point that it happens My mod is not doing anything and has handed all control over to SexLab. As with the quest in the Thamor Embassy you can save just before the sex scene happens and if it crashes then reload from there. thank you, I Wonder if "Non-SexLab Animation" is the cause of the crash I don't think so, I only installed that recently and the crashes were happening from the start.
Mart0206 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Hi Veladarius, i have noticed since i have the 3.7x Version inl. the V3 Version of the expansion esp Files (in my case SVS Jew. and calpyps sextoys) they are not worn by the npc´s (master, assistent and slaves) neither sold. The npc selling different jewelery typs usually sells the whole svs collection, but they didn´t show up. first i thought a load order problem, but it isn´t. all esp files came after the captured Dream main file. What can i do? Just want to remind on my post. Any idea, why this isn´t workung?
PubliusNV Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I have the latest version of sexlab... this is probably another mod that make bug... I'm just a little tired of shearshing... The C++ error is triggered by SexLab, at the point that it happens My mod is not doing anything and has handed all control over to SexLab. As with the quest in the Thamor Embassy you can save just before the sex scene happens and if it crashes then reload from there. thank you, I Wonder if "Non-SexLab Animation" is the cause of the crash I don't think so, I only installed that recently and the crashes were happening from the start. I agree, I have that mod installed now but didn't have it installed when I did the Elenwen quest.
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