Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

[Nixea]

 

I had the exact opposite reaction with Elisif...I actually was wiping away tears, the thought of being willing to surrender that completely with no way out short of Sovngarde...

I see Elisif as submissive, and stuck in a role of power that she doesn't want, but is at the same time, probably one of the better people for the job, whether she wants the job or not.  Which is much like my character, she didn't sign up to shout at dragons...much less dragon gods...or dragon gods in Oblivion, but that's the life she's stuck in.

 

I hated Siddgeir before, the reaction has gotten exponentially worse after what I had to do to Nenya...at the same time, it WAS kinda fun doing it to her.  I'd install DD for males...if I got to help Nenya get some payback.

 

With Master I'm normally supersubmissive...but I could barely contain myself up to the party scene, and then, no...my character was genuinely NOT having a good time, and was more than happy to let them know all about it...only reason I wasn't being REALLY loud about it...is I'm still trying to be on best behavior for Master (that and scripted scene too).

Ailus...also, normally supersubmissive to Master,...not with Ailus, I not only want her to suffer, I want to be the one making her suffer...and since you say she'll be a bit masochistic, that just means she will be just noisy enough to give me MORE reasons to have fun with her.

 

And yes, I've been wracking my mind about Erani...who asked Master to find her and why?  And also...why would that person trust someone who deals with Elenwen?  And how does Master and Elenwen know each other...they seem uncomfortably friendly and what about...and...

 

BTW: Somewhere along the lines, I'm not sure whether Master is hero or villain...I mean, she does good things (Rayani...and she clearly indicates that Master has strong feelings about consent that are fairly close to mine, with No'dra and De'Zra it seems a bit grayer...the other shop slaves are too quiet to get a handle on).  But with Elenwen and Nenya...consent seems to be out the window.  Erani is a bit of a mixed case, she's only known a life as a slave, getting her accustomed to a more comfortable, safer slavery could be a step to freeing her without making her feel cast adrift.

 

 

I agree, I had very mixed feelings (and I still have them) about Master with the whole Elenwen deal thing. She does initially give an air of strict fairness with a big emphasis on consent, then things get a bit creepy with the Falkreath assignment, then the deal with Elenwen happens and you don't even get an explanation at all, then she sends you to do an incredibly selfless thing and end up with Erani. Was the whole questline a trial of sorts? Even if it was, I think the Elenwen deal was incredibly cruel and unnecessary, with a hint of creepiness if you consider how Elenwen encourages you to enjoy since you'll end up locked in chastity forever, as it makes me think that it might be a very abusive way of Master to ensure you'll willingly accept perpetual chastity because of the trauma. A clear explanation of Master's reasons from either the author or explained in the mod itself at some point would be very appreciated

 

[aqqh]

I think the Elenwen deal was incredibly cruel and unnecessary, with a hint of creepiness if you consider how Elenwen encourages you to enjoy since you'll end up locked in chastity forever

 

Scene itself serves a purpose. Could be seen as a test - master wants to know how would you act placed in situation like that.

 

What i think is very unfair is a punishment after that.Should she really be surprised that when she sends strong willed and proud person to something like this and it turns out that person was far from happy about it?

I missed couple of dialogue options there on my dom char. To make it clear that no amount of whipping would ever make her do that kind of service willingly.

And that her trust and respect for master just took quite a blow.

[Slorm]

My feeling with Elisif was one of sympathy, I'm not sure she is necessarily submissive but more of a victim and I felt a bit bad at the end of that mission.

 

The Elenwen mission was very dark and like the above posters I was enjoying playing it very much as a submissive, but frankly after that I would have gone back and put Master to the sword at the first opportunity (or paid the Dark Brotherhood).

 

It's a brilliant piece of scripting as I tend to roleplay my pc I found it really brought out some quite strong emotional reactions which is very rare in a computer game

[Nixea]

 

Scene itself serves a purpose. Could be seen as a test - master wants to know how would you act placed in situation like that.

 

What i think is very unfair is a punishment after that.Should she really be surprised that when she sends strong willed and proud person to something like this and it turns out that person was far from happy about it?

I missed couple of dialogue options there on my dom char. To make it clear that no amount of whipping would ever make her do that kind of service willingly.

And that her trust and respect for master just took quite a blow.

 

 

I do believe it could have been a test, but as I said, I think it's incredibly cruel even for a submissive character. If a character envisious the Master as someone strict but fair to look up to, who respects consent and who is honest with them, going through that ordeal breaks that image very badly and is likely to cause some serious emotional trauma because of the terrible abuse and the betrayal of trust.

[aqqh]

I do believe it could have been a test, but as I said, I think it's incredibly cruel even for a submissive character. If a character envisious the Master as someone strict but fair to look up to, who respects consent and who is honest with them, going through that ordeal breaks that image very badly and is likely to cause some serious emotional trauma because of the terrible abuse and the betrayal of trust.

My first reaction was to ask for a route like - you break free form that prison, steal some compromising documents and with them in hand blackmail Elenwen to sign whatever you need.

with addition "even if as punishment for that i would have to spend a week as display slave that would make me enjoy that more".

But, later on - lets say that i see surprise quest as her way to say that shes sorry for what happened. Word was never spoken, but i see it like that.

[Veladarius]

There are a number of reasons for sending you to see Elenwen:

1- She was testing Elenwen - Considering the main story line of the game, sending you there is very risky but she had to know where she stood with Elenwen and you were the best test of all.

2- Doms - She wanted to see how you would handle such a difficult situation and if you had the mental strength to get through it.

3- Submissives - Putting you through a rather harsh experience at this stage would tell her how serious you were about possibly being a slave as this would drive any who were not serious away.

4- Master knows that there will be some difficult things ahead and you are more than a simple slave. Truth be told, she does not particularly like hurting her slaves and sending you there was the best way for her to do this. She did not know what you would be put through but Elenwen was told that you could not physically harm you or do anything permanent. There will likely be some discussion about the piercing (for those who were not pierced).

 

As for the punishment when you returned, the only reason it happened was for being rude to Elenwen in front of her guests, Master did not care how you spoke to her otherwise.

[Nixea]

There are a number of reasons for sending you to see Elenwen:

1- She was testing Elenwen - Considering the main story line of the game, sending you there is very risky but she had to know where she stood with Elenwen and you were the best test of all.

2- Doms - She wanted to see how you would handle such a difficult situation and if you had the mental strength to get through it.

3- Submissives - Putting you through a rather harsh experience at this stage would tell her how serious you were about possibly being a slave as this would drive any who were not serious away.

4- Master knows that there will be some difficult things ahead and you are more than a simple slave. Truth be told, she does not particularly like hurting her slaves and sending you there was the best way for her to do this. She did not know what you would be put through but Elenwen was told that you could not physically harm you or do anything permanent. There will likely be some discussion about the piercing (for those who were not pierced).

 

As for the punishment when you returned, the only reason it happened was for being rude to Elenwen in front of her guests, Master did not care how you spoke to her otherwise.

 

I get that, but the Master is obviously very intelligent and could probably assume that the role of the player character serving as payment would be more than simply looking pretty in bondage gear.

[chris8n]

 

 

 

After the guards do their thing at Elewen's party, my character just lies on the bedroll, is that normal or did my game just glitched out?

 

A guard should walk over to a barrel, get water and come back. Once he leaves the door should shut and the other guard will talk to you.

 

 

It doesn't do that reason, the cell door is just opened after it transitioned from the guards room.  I see a guard just standing there and Ailus is standing in the cell next to my character.

 

 

Ailus should be in an X Frame in the next cell, if she isn't then you likely don't have the correct version of ZAZ Animation installed and is likely the issue.

 

 

 

She is but nothing happens.  The door is just opened and the guard just stands there, if I enabled movement and go to the X frame, nothing happens after I activate it though.  Is there something else I need from the Zaz animation, it says I have 6.01.

[Veladarius]

Ailus should be in the frame, that is what her AI package is set to do.

 

You can try sqs CDxExpQuest02 and see what the stage is at and what the next one is and set it manually or go back to a prior save and see if it works properly a second time.

[BigOnes69]

After finishing the Erani quest My toon still has the captured dreams items and I assume they are permanent at this point for the next chapter. Is there any way to remove them until the next chapter is completed? Specifically the open end chastity belt.

[Veladarius]

After finishing the Erani quest My toon still has the captured dreams items and I assume they are permanent at this point for the next chapter. Is there any way to remove them until the next chapter is completed? Specifically the open end chastity belt.

 

Check the following Global Variable:   help CDxLongTermBelting

 

The value will tell you what quest placed the items on you:

-1    Free Trial

0     Delivery quest

1     Debt

2 or 3  Tavish

 

 

If it is a 0 and you are not on a delivery use the Delivery reset option to remove the items otherwise complete the quest or reset it if you really want them off. Nothing is permanent (yet) but the Free Trial items can be very difficult to be released from if you are submissive.

[aqqh]

Nothing is permanent (yet) but the Free Trial items can be very difficult to be released from if you are submissive.

That's basically difficult in general as dom char likely wont get this quest at all.

 

You could tweak it a bit imo. She could talk dom char into trying cuffs at least. As they wont hurt or anything..

 

Then trick such character into trying something more.. Like she needs a prototype of new little helper plug tested in combat situations by someone and you're the first one that comes in mind for such thing. For a reward of course.

This could turn out that test would be ... longer than player would be thinking at first.

Could lead to some funny dialogues 

[Veladarius]

 

Nothing is permanent (yet) but the Free Trial items can be very difficult to be released from if you are submissive.

That's basically difficult in general as dom char likely wont get this quest at all.

 

You could tweak it a bit imo. She could talk dom char into trying cuffs at least. As they wont hurt or anything..

 

Then trick such character into trying something more.. Like she needs a prototype of new little helper plug tested in combat situations by someone and you're the first one that comes in mind for such thing. For a reward of course.

This could turn out that test would be ... longer than player would be thinking at first.

Could lead to some funny dialogues 

 

 

I was thinking of something like that, where the player is tricked into trying something out but I have not decided what sort of circumstances to start it with.

[Veladarius]

I am playing around with the items from Zaria's restraints, specifically the chastity piercings. I am working on splitting up the rings and locks so rings act as the piercings do and the locks act as a belt. I am testing the first sets now to see if it all works right since it required custom menu's and scripts.

[arbiter]

Hi Veladarius,

 

Thanks for your help in incorporating your start into ImmerSlave. It's available now. For anyone who wants quick access to the basement start (not sure what else to call it) you can start a new game through ImmerSlave and go right to it. 

[yolobomber]

well i don't know why but at one character my dd mods give a fatal error in installation. abborting update chain. and on the other it doesn't. anyone an idea?

[Guest]

I am playing around with the items from Zaria's restraints, specifically the chastity piercings. I am working on splitting up the rings and locks so rings act as the piercings do and the locks act as a belt. I am testing the first sets now to see if it all works right since it required custom menu's and scripts.

I don't mind the piercings, at least virtually anyway.

It's the one Elenwen uses that vibrates whenever it wants.

I showinventory and removeitem,

and spend the rest of the current game feeling all guilty.

"Guilty" I suppose because "Active effects" says I have a pierced thing, although it

does not list any potential benefits.

The one I really like a lot, if I can get graphic for a second,

is the one with 16 rings that looks like a runway with landing-lights.

 

[Veladarius]

 

I am playing around with the items from Zaria's restraints, specifically the chastity piercings. I am working on splitting up the rings and locks so rings act as the piercings do and the locks act as a belt. I am testing the first sets now to see if it all works right since it required custom menu's and scripts.

I don't mind the piercings, at least virtually anyway.

It's the one Elenwen uses that vibrates whenever it wants.

I showinventory and removeitem,

and spend the rest of the current game feeling all guilty.

"Guilty" I suppose because "Active effects" says I have a pierced thing, although it

does not list any potential benefits.

The one I really like a lot, if I can get graphic for a second,

is the one with 16 rings that looks like a runway with landing-lights.

 

 

The pierced effect was added for some possible features though I don't think it is currently used for much. I used it in the dialogue with Elenwen to see if the player had been pierced already and determine the dialogue set.

 

That is the piercings I am looking to do, both the basic set of rings plus the locking parts that can go through them, the rings would act as a piercing and the locks as a belt.

[Veladarius]

I have the Chastity Piercings working, they will equip / unequip properly and have custom messages during that as well. They are built as 2 parts, the rings are a piercing and the lock is a belt. You can use a plug with them and should function the same as the open back belts (same keywords and such). The two locks with the bell on them also give a penalty to sneaking as well.

 

The parts are all separate in the inventory:

 

The rings can be used without the locks but you must either have the rings on or a set in your inventory to put a lock on.

 

The meshes are made for the CBBE body (though I don't know what variant) so the rings sit a little out from the body on the UNPB version (shown below):

 

 

 

 

 

The slots have been adjusted to the same ones the DD items use as well.

 

These will be sold in the shop using standard keys / removal tools but I may add quest variants later (will be optional).

 

I may have one more update sometime soon, mostly just some bug fixes and possibly an update on the textures of belts and other items, the standard versions would be included with those.

[heckdo]

Is there a way to force the Master into dialogue with me? She won't talk, just gives me her spiel about the being master of the establishment, but then dismisses me as if I closed dialogue with her. "Mmm-hmm", "very well then", etc

 

Tried starting a fresh game, and that didn't work.

 

I think I read that it has something to do with her relationship level with me? Is there a way to change that?

 

Also, no MCM menu shows up for me, no matter what I do, where I go, or how long I wait around in game. Odd.

[Veladarius]

If the MCM menu is not showing up then the scripts are likely not running properly. The first dialogue sets the relationship levels to their default values (from 0) and the normal dialogue will not be used until then. you can try to disable the mod, load and save then enable it again and see if that fixes it (make sure you are not near the shop's location) and if that does not work check your papyrus log for errors that are keeping it from starting up properly.

[jordisslave]

I have the Chastity Piercings working, they will equip / unequip properly and have custom messages during that as well. They are built as 2 parts, the rings are a piercing and the lock is a belt. You can use a plug with them and should function the same as the open back belts (same keywords and such). The two locks with the bell on them also give a penalty to sneaking as well.

 

The parts are all separate in the inventory:

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The rings can be used without the locks but you must either have the rings on or a set in your inventory to put a lock on.

 

The meshes are made for the CBBE body (though I don't know what variant) so the rings sit a little out from the body on the UNPB version (shown below):

 

 

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The slots have been adjusted to the same ones the DD items use as well.

 

These will be sold in the shop using standard keys / removal tools but I may add quest variants later (will be optional).

 

I may have one more update sometime soon, mostly just some bug fixes and possibly an update on the textures of belts and other items, the standard versions would be included with those.

 

Woo!  For these.  Someone has already done a version of the rings+lock (you probably already know this), it's in a download with Khajit gags somewhere here and is functional but gives belt notifications and holds in a vaginal plug.  Piercings and separate lock is a great idea though.  Can't wait for these.

 

[BringtheNoise]

Load the ring's nif file as an outfit in outfit studio and load your femalebody_1.nif as the reference.

 

Then adjust the rings until they sit in the body slightly (use the move shape function to keep from distorting the ring shape)....

Or if you want I can take a look at them since I can tinker in OS pretty good...

 

From the looks of it the item is about 0.2 to 0.5 to low on the z axis.

[ShaiHalud]

Just got through with the quest line. Awesome work man.

 

BTW, for those still stuck at the gate on the thalmor quest, it turns out the thalmor still hate your horse, so don't start the quest until you move him away from the embassy.

 

Also, if you have ATF, do not ask Erani to follow you when you first meet, she may get stuck outside the smithy at end of quest. If she does, use tweak options to remove her from ATF management..

[Veladarius]

Load the ring's nif file as an outfit in outfit studio and load your femalebody_1.nif as the reference.

 

Then adjust the rings until they sit in the body slightly (use the move shape function to keep from distorting the ring shape)....

Or if you want I can take a look at them since I can tinker in OS pretty good...

 

From the looks of it the item is about 0.2 to 0.5 to low on the z axis.

 

I would appreciate it if you could see what you could do with them, my attempts to do anything with them have been less than successful so far.

 

Edit: Here are the meshes I am currently using: Piercings.zip