Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

[Veladarius]

 

So...was thinking a bit about the upcoming follower as dominant mod...and it gave me a Devious Idea for Master, possibly after you leave a follower at the shop for a quest.

 

Master:  "Your...friend has been talking to me about her feelings for you, slave...so...I'm going to let her control you when I'm not around to oversee you personally, and SHE will be reporting on your behavior to me.  Do you have any complaint about that state of affairs?"

"MMMPH?!"

"I didn't think you would."

 

I second that idea... A dominant follower, from the shop, keeping you in check. Messing up your game if you don't do as she says, sort of like a living, nagging pet collar...

 

Telling you of stuff you have to do at the shop, when you have to get back to the shop to pose for the customer quests. Punishing you if you miss your shop deadlines, or don't do the shop quests on time.

 

She could enforce a pet collar on you for a day as punishment, abuse you. Call over enemies, to mess you around if she's angry. Abuse you in your sleep, you'd never know what she was doing to you in your sleep, or what she was putting on you. You'd wake up with a nasty surprise, or maybe even drugged in your sleep, awaking with a nasty disease or status ailment that only she could cure.

 

Maybe you'd even find a permanent tattoo on you, as you awaken... MCM on/off Maybe she'd steal all your clothes for the day, returning them the next day to you. Or attack you if you wore the wrong clothing, or items that she wanted you to wear.

 

'You've disappointed me today, you will spend tomorrow nude slave, or else I will punish you more...'

 

She'd constantly whip you, until you removed your clothes. This would attract enemies as well... Sleeping too much would incur her wrath, so no sleeping off her nude days...

 

She would be way to control you, to do her bidding, to do the shops bidding...

 

I like the idea of a bondage clad follower, very tough, but not very helpful. She'd keep you alive, but enjoy watching you get hurt... She'd cast healing spell, defensive spells, but generally stay back. She'd scare off your followers, making sure she was the only one...

 

' I'm going home, If you want me. ' Your real followers would say, as they turned and headed home, after being whipped by your bondage clad follower until they left your service.

 

 

If I was going to do something where the player is dominated by someone other than the Master it would likely be the player's spouse than a follower.

 

Truthfully though, I hate followers. Half the time when I need them they are not there and come wandering up after a big fight and are like "Did I miss anything?" or when they are there they are just getting in your way (if they use a bow I have more arrows in me from them than the enemy). I have used the Vilja follower mod, when she started complaining that I never take her anywhere I just wanted to say "The door is over there", instead I uninstalled the mod.

 

Getting the balance right for making the player a slave long term so you can still do things can be tricky. I want the slave framework to be somewhat adjustable so you can adjust the amount of freedom you have and how often you have to serve in the house instead of wandering around. I will make things as adjustable as I can with MCM menu settings.

[Veladarius]

 

 

I'm bubbling over with an idea about a mod someone here made for captured dreams called "immerslave", in which the player tells Mara to stick her in a cell deep in debt.

 

But wait, you all treat poodles better than you treat slaves, apparently. 

I can clean!! I just disabled the stray harness

("Be careful!!")

disabled the bottle of wine,

set my relationshiprank to 4 for Kara, got rid of the cheese,

and that was in the first 80 seconds of captured-dreams play.

  But with the bra on I can't get a job,

so I dipped into my secret stash at the palace,

and spent half of it (10K is steep!!)

and still only got rid of the freaking belt!!

   Like I said slavery is one thing but they don't berate you (OK they do but it's for not doing a good job or something.)

Um, oh yeah, so my question is, you like this stuff? I know the clothes, the fear, but the "eat dirt and die" talk?

Which brings me to part two (if you're still reading),

Yes they treat you like that at first, but in the future-perfect mod in my head, they'd come to know and love you.

O, and the stuff I have on better come off quick, dying alone and unemployed doesn't need a game.

PS I do not touch-type; please ignore the typos.

 

The Master is harsh on the dialogue for the start I made, she was owed 10k gold and was stuck with you instead and at this point you are nobody (certainly not worth what she was owed). The items other than the belt and collar are normal items added randomly but even with those on so long as you have that custom belt you should be able to get work (unless they don't like you). This slave start is NOT a full slave start, you just owe her lots of gold.

 

The 10k will only remove the belt and collar, unless you complained at the start ('you can't do this to me') then she will remove all the other things she puts on you as well (full set of custom items).

 

As for "Eat dirt and die" I don't have any dialogue that is that harsh.

 

Will they come to like/love and respect you? In time they will once they have reason to. Skyrim is a harsh place (most any fantasy setting is) and if you are not one of her slaves then she is more concerned about what you owe her or any deliveries you are taking. Until you are one of her slaves (truly one of her slaves) then you rank lower than her slaves.

 

 

Thank you for answering.

Master won't give me a job unless I remove all items. That's already harsh, how'm I supposed to pay her back?

I'm glad you brought that up.

But let's say the PC is a true slave at heart, and resigns herself to bondage-forever, um, she's got nothing to do unless Master gives her a task.

 Or I'm doing it wrong.

My own personal mod gives the PC superpowers and her tongue melts butter, but it's a kind of mega cheat I was trying not to use for this time out.

Since the stuff I had on presented a paradox, no tasks while I'm owned, I decided to fall back on my crutch and blow all my slave-clothes to oblivion.

I cannot paste links into this, but I uploaded a mod here called uniform.txt and swordy.esp

 

 

The extra items can be removed by the smith, slave Kara will tell you who to talk to first. Make sure you are submissive or you have to ask the Assistants to get you released and they charge more than De'Zra does. I will be changing the requirements if you have other items on to get a job for the next update and the restrictions reduced.

[aqqh]

The Master is harsh on the dialogue for the start I made, she was owed 10k gold and was stuck with you instead and at this point you are nobody (certainly not worth what she was owed). 

The more she should show some emotion once you actually pay that money.

Maybe even some "My my.. It seems I might have been wrong about you... So did that pathetic excuse of a "master" that you had before." considering that she did not found you worthy of training back then.

Followed by "So now that you have your freedom what would you do?" might set her future view of you

"I don't know, all my life i lived to serve..." might make her interested in making player her property right away

Or "I'll make sure no bastard would own me ever again." 

 

Thing i would add to that first dialogue is to beg / ask her for some equipment.

like:

"Master, I beg you. I wont survive there like this!" "You wont send me to die, will you? Please!" for subby

 

"So you want me to get money for you? Ok, I'll play your game." "Might I have some weapon and armor? If i get myself killed or enslaved out there you can kiss your money goodbye after all." for dom

[ty4365]

Im having a problem with the end of the Thalmor quest, after the final 3 part sex scene with Elenwen she says shes going to bed and then just continues to walk around her room and sitting on her chair every so often

 

edit: dw solved it by completely redoing the quest from scratch

[Mord Sif]

 

If I was going to do something where the player is dominated by someone other than the Master it would likely be the player's spouse than a follower.

 

I will love you if you do that!

 

My Sif always marries Callisto - an NPC I made myself to be both her wife and loving owner. I've been looking forward to becoming the Master's slave, but being able to be Callisto's slave in practice rather than just roleplaying in my head is something I really want. When I got to the end of the CD expansion quests... (spoilers here for those who haven't done it yet)

 

 

 

...I found myself hoping that when you became the Master's slave she would assign someone as your caretaker, just as she assigns you as Erani's. That you would still belong to the Master, and be required to serve in and around the shop at times, but for the rest of the time an NPC would be in charge of you, and hopefully you could choose which one, or have your spouse selected. I have no idea if that's the kind of thing you were thinking of, but I might as well throw it out for consideration, because that would be perfect for me.

 

 

 

Whatever you decided to do, though, based on how wonderful the expansion stuff is, I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it.

[Guest]

 

The Master is harsh on the dialogue for the start I made, she was owed 10k gold and was stuck with you instead and at this point you are nobody (certainly not worth what she was owed). 

The more she should show some emotion once you actually pay that money.

Maybe even some "My my.. It seems I might have been wrong about you... So did that pathetic excuse of a "master" that you had before." considering that she did not found you worthy of training back then.

Followed by "So now that you have your freedom what would you do?" might set her future view of you

"I don't know, all my life i lived to serve..." might make her interested in making player her property right away

Or "I'll make sure no bastard would own me ever again." 

 

Thing i would add to that first dialogue is to beg / ask her for some equipment.

like:

"Master, I beg you. I wont survive there like this!" "You wont send me to die, will you? Please!" for subby

 

"So you want me to get money for you? Ok, I'll play your game." "Might I have some weapon and armor? If i get myself killed or enslaved out there you can kiss your money goodbye after all." for dom

 

 

I like the way you think.

Well, except about the specifics of the 10k.

I made 150k on my last game selling overpriced milk, but that mod (I think) requires you to be braless, and it took a few game-months.

So I'm back to Master giving a person something to do to repay the debt.

600 average earnings per delivery, equals um, a lot of deliveries.

I wanna be part of the captured-dreams sales force, I just want them to know (and treat me like) I'm on their side.

 

 

[Veladarius]

Im having a problem with the end of the Thalmor quest, after the final 3 part sex scene with Elenwen she says shes going to bed and then just continues to walk around her room and sitting on her chair every so often

 

has anyone else run into this problem?

 

That was an issue on earlier versions as the bed had a different faction owner. What version are you using now and did you update during that quest at all?

[Veladarius]

 

 

The Master is harsh on the dialogue for the start I made, she was owed 10k gold and was stuck with you instead and at this point you are nobody (certainly not worth what she was owed). 

The more she should show some emotion once you actually pay that money.

Maybe even some "My my.. It seems I might have been wrong about you... So did that pathetic excuse of a "master" that you had before." considering that she did not found you worthy of training back then.

Followed by "So now that you have your freedom what would you do?" might set her future view of you

"I don't know, all my life i lived to serve..." might make her interested in making player her property right away

Or "I'll make sure no bastard would own me ever again." 

 

Thing i would add to that first dialogue is to beg / ask her for some equipment.

like:

"Master, I beg you. I wont survive there like this!" "You wont send me to die, will you? Please!" for subby

 

"So you want me to get money for you? Ok, I'll play your game." "Might I have some weapon and armor? If i get myself killed or enslaved out there you can kiss your money goodbye after all." for dom

 

 

I like the way you think.

Well, except about the specifics of the 10k.

I made 150k on my last game selling overpriced milk, but that mod (I think) requires you to be braless, and it took a few game-months.

So I'm back to Master giving a person something to do to repay the debt.

600 average earnings per delivery, equals um, a lot of deliveries.

I wanna be part of the captured-dreams sales force, I just want them to know (and treat me like) I'm on their side.

 

 

 

 

It is intended to be a high amount, the punishment that is part of is one that would be considered more severe.

 

 

At some point after the slave version I will make a full slave start with some different options on it.

[Krazyone]

 

 

So...was thinking a bit about the upcoming follower as dominant mod...and it gave me a Devious Idea for Master, possibly after you leave a follower at the shop for a quest.

 

Master:  "Your...friend has been talking to me about her feelings for you, slave...so...I'm going to let her control you when I'm not around to oversee you personally, and SHE will be reporting on your behavior to me.  Do you have any complaint about that state of affairs?"

"MMMPH?!"

"I didn't think you would."

 

I second that idea... A dominant follower, from the shop, keeping you in check. Messing up your game if you don't do as she says, sort of like a living, nagging pet collar...

 

Telling you of stuff you have to do at the shop, when you have to get back to the shop to pose for the customer quests. Punishing you if you miss your shop deadlines, or don't do the shop quests on time.

 

She could enforce a pet collar on you for a day as punishment, abuse you. Call over enemies, to mess you around if she's angry. Abuse you in your sleep, you'd never know what she was doing to you in your sleep, or what she was putting on you. You'd wake up with a nasty surprise, or maybe even drugged in your sleep, awaking with a nasty disease or status ailment that only she could cure.

 

Maybe you'd even find a permanent tattoo on you, as you awaken... MCM on/off Maybe she'd steal all your clothes for the day, returning them the next day to you. Or attack you if you wore the wrong clothing, or items that she wanted you to wear.

 

'You've disappointed me today, you will spend tomorrow nude slave, or else I will punish you more...'

 

She'd constantly whip you, until you removed your clothes. This would attract enemies as well... Sleeping too much would incur her wrath, so no sleeping off her nude days...

 

She would be way to control you, to do her bidding, to do the shops bidding...

 

I like the idea of a bondage clad follower, very tough, but not very helpful. She'd keep you alive, but enjoy watching you get hurt... She'd cast healing spell, defensive spells, but generally stay back. She'd scare off your followers, making sure she was the only one...

 

' I'm going home, If you want me. ' Your real followers would say, as they turned and headed home, after being whipped by your bondage clad follower until they left your service.

 

 

If I was going to do something where the player is dominated by someone other than the Master it would likely be the player's spouse than a follower.

 

Truthfully though, I hate followers. Half the time when I need them they are not there and come wandering up after a big fight and are like "Did I miss anything?" or when they are there they are just getting in your way (if they use a bow I have more arrows in me from them than the enemy). I have used the Vilja follower mod, when she started complaining that I never take her anywhere I just wanted to say "The door is over there", instead I uninstalled the mod.

 

Getting the balance right for making the player a slave long term so you can still do things can be tricky. I want the slave framework to be somewhat adjustable so you can adjust the amount of freedom you have and how often you have to serve in the house instead of wandering around. I will make things as adjustable as I can with MCM menu settings.

 

 

I love using followers, they've saved my life a number of times. But I hate overpowered followers, Serana was one of these, out of the Dawnguard add-on. She was told to leave by me, very early on in the game. She was too active, she'd run off and kill everyone, ruining the fun of the game. I had to do the same with a follower dog that was just death on legs, as even I couldn't kill or even harm him.

 

Followers need to be leveled, and able to bleed out and crawl around, even if essential. Not invulnerable demi-gods.

 

I have a few follower mods that I love.

 

Aunts sisters and daughters of skyrim, which adds 33 female warrior females to the game. Uthgrit, a 7 foot tall beast of a woman being my favourite. All of them that I have used are pleasant characters to be around, with nice quirks to each character.

I use the amazing follower tweaks mod to get them to play as I want...

I also use the follower commentary overhaul mod to mostly shut them up...

 

The follower I had in mind was not very active, she'd fight to save her own life only. Like a coward, she'd stay back. She'd give quest information, along with quest failure punishments. The punishments being either on the spot, or when you are sleeping.

 

Sleeping punishments would add an element of fear to the game, fear of failure, fear of what you'd wake up to find...

 

[aqqh]

I like the way you think.

Well, except about the specifics of the 10k.

I made 150k on my last game selling overpriced milk, but that mod (I think) requires you to be braless, and it took a few game-months.

So I'm back to Master giving a person something to do to repay the debt.

600 average earnings per delivery, equals um, a lot of deliveries.

I wanna be part of the captured-dreams sales force, I just want them to know (and treat me like) I'm on their side.

My usual playstyle was to fool around riverwood till i get like lv 8 then go whiterun. By the time i was leaving whiterun i was already lv 35 with 100 alchemy / smithing, around 70 speech and some decent enchanting skill with around 500k gold in my pockets.

 

This time it took me 5 days because for once i wanted to make a start without abusing alchemy 

 

For quests there could be some new ones made for low levels. 

 

It is intended to be a high amount, the punishment that is part of is one that would be considered more severe.

At some point after the slave version I will make a full slave start with some different options on it.

You could make it a bit higher, yes.

What would make it truly devious is to make that amount grow (by like 5%) with each passing day. 

 

 

If I was going to do something where the player is dominated by someone other than the Master it would likely be the player's spouse than a follower.

Honestly when running my dom char i get a feeling that only thing that would make her willingly equip devices would be to have a love relationship with master herself 

[Veladarius]

 

I like the way you think.

Well, except about the specifics of the 10k.

I made 150k on my last game selling overpriced milk, but that mod (I think) requires you to be braless, and it took a few game-months.

So I'm back to Master giving a person something to do to repay the debt.

600 average earnings per delivery, equals um, a lot of deliveries.

I wanna be part of the captured-dreams sales force, I just want them to know (and treat me like) I'm on their side.

My usual playstyle was to fool around riverwood till i get like lv 8 then go whiterun. By the time i was leaving whiterun i was already lv 35 with 100 alchemy / smithing, around 70 speech and some decent enchanting skill with around 500k gold in my pockets.

 

This time it took me 5 days because for once i wanted to make a start without abusing alchemy 

 

For quests there could be some new ones made for low levels. 

 

 

I ended up changing rate that Smithing, Enchanting and Speechcraft leveled and slowed them down immensely, I also lowered how much they contribute to the character's level, I could easily end up level 10 just in making my starting gear. Think I dropped them down to 10% of normal, possibly more.

[Gh0sTG0]

Hm, maybe someone wrote about these idea, but maybe there would be quest when Master tries to make you submissive from dominant?

[joemonco]

 

 

I love using followers, they've saved my life a number of times. But I hate overpowered followers, Serana was one of these, out of the Dawnguard add-on. She was told to leave by me, very early on in the game. She was too active, she'd run off and kill everyone, ruining the fun of the game. I had to do the same with a follower dog that was just death on legs, as even I couldn't kill or even harm him.

 

Followers need to be leveled, and able to bleed out and crawl around, even if essential. Not invulnerable demi-gods.

 

Install Defeat, level your character past 50, then watch her get raped by ever single leveled bandit, draugr, vampire, and creature you meet.  She's grossly underpowered to be a useful meatshield and quite possibly the only character in skyrim that requires a gag with a broken lock thanks to Bethesda's fabulously annoying ambient dialogue system.

[Nixea]

Hm, maybe someone wrote about these idea, but maybe there would be quest when Master tries to make you submissive from dominant?

 

If that ever happens it should be triggered via MCM and disabled by default, I play submissive myself but it would annoy the hell out of a lot of players to be forced into submission.

[Slorm]

 

I ended up changing rate that Smithing, Enchanting and Speechcraft leveled and slowed them down immensely, I also lowered how much they contribute to the character's level, I could easily end up level 10 just in making my starting gear. Think I dropped them down to 10% of normal, possibly more.

 

 

I went a slightly different route as I tend to take my time (the game before last I was still at level 41 after 170 hours) and instead upped the pc to always hit at 1 (else it takes forever to kill anyting at higher levels) but upped the damage received for expert and master difficulty levels. Increasing difficulty level around 30 and 40 seems to work though it's not perfect.

 

[Gh0sTG0]

 

Hm, maybe someone wrote about these idea, but maybe there would be quest when Master tries to make you submissive from dominant?

 

If that ever happens it should be triggered via MCM and disabled by default, I play submissive myself but it would annoy the hell out of a lot of players to be forced into submission.

 

Just an idea of a quest, In it you can end as a submissive, and as more dominant as before. Maybe some special devices would be available if you confirm your dominance.

[Mallomar42]

 

 

 

 

So...was thinking a bit about the upcoming follower as dominant mod...and it gave me a Devious Idea for Master, possibly after you leave a follower at the shop for a quest.

 

Master: "Your...friend has been talking to me about her feelings for you, slave...so...I'm going to let her control you when I'm not around to oversee you personally, and SHE will be reporting on your behavior to me. Do you have any complaint about that state of affairs?"

"MMMPH?!"

"I didn't think you would."

I second that idea... A dominant follower, from the shop, keeping you in check. Messing up your game if you don't do as she says, sort of like a living, nagging pet collar...

 

Telling you of stuff you have to do at the shop, when you have to get back to the shop to pose for the customer quests. Punishing you if you miss your shop deadlines, or don't do the shop quests on time.

 

She could enforce a pet collar on you for a day as punishment, abuse you. Call over enemies, to mess you around if she's angry. Abuse you in your sleep, you'd never know what she was doing to you in your sleep, or what she was putting on you. You'd wake up with a nasty surprise, or maybe even drugged in your sleep, awaking with a nasty disease or status ailment that only she could cure.

 

Maybe you'd even find a permanent tattoo on you, as you awaken... MCM on/off Maybe she'd steal all your clothes for the day, returning them the next day to you. Or attack you if you wore the wrong clothing, or items that she wanted you to wear.

 

'You've disappointed me today, you will spend tomorrow nude slave, or else I will punish you more...'

 

She'd constantly whip you, until you removed your clothes. This would attract enemies as well... Sleeping too much would incur her wrath, so no sleeping off her nude days...

 

She would be way to control you, to do her bidding, to do the shops bidding...

 

I like the idea of a bondage clad follower, very tough, but not very helpful. She'd keep you alive, but enjoy watching you get hurt... She'd cast healing spell, defensive spells, but generally stay back. She'd scare off your followers, making sure she was the only one...

 

' I'm going home, If you want me. ' Your real followers would say, as they turned and headed home, after being whipped by your bondage clad follower until they left your service.

If I was going to do something where the player is dominated by someone other than the Master it would likely be the player's spouse than a follower.

 

Truthfully though, I hate followers. Half the time when I need them they are not there and come wandering up after a big fight and are like "Did I miss anything?" or when they are there they are just getting in your way (if they use a bow I have more arrows in me from them than the enemy). I have used the Vilja follower mod, when she started complaining that I never take her anywhere I just wanted to say "The door is over there", instead I uninstalled the mod.

 

Getting the balance right for making the player a slave long term so you can still do things can be tricky. I want the slave framework to be somewhat adjustable so you can adjust the amount of freedom you have and how often you have to serve in the house instead of wandering around. I will make things as adjustable as I can with MCM menu settings.

I know its nothing new on the nexus but have you tried out interesting NPCs? While I do agree that most of the vanilla followers that you run into and can invite into your party are boring, incompetent, and pretty much good for nothing other than being glorified pack mules the followers from interesting NPCs are fun to have around. Though they might not ever reach the level of competence the player character reaches (I two shot revered dragons on legendary and am all but immune to damage) they do seem more competent than vanilla though that could just be my luck and/or me giving them the benefit of the doubt.

[Aluminium]

Well, I give up. Using savecleaner either didn't help or led to CTDs on startup,and I can't see what the problem of this log is, since I'm not that good with programming in general. I hope I'm not getting on your nerves Veladarius, since CD is a rightly awesome mod regardless of this error I'm having.

Papyrus.0.log

[Veladarius]

Well, I give up. Using savecleaner either didn't help or led to CTDs on startup,and I can't see what the problem of this log is, since I'm not that good with programming in general. I hope I'm not getting on your nerves Veladarius, since CD is a rightly awesome mod regardless of this error I'm having.

 

There are a number of errors from a number of mods:

 

A number of errors on this mod:

[11/14/2014 - 11:35:21PM] warning: Property DreeARMMQ06FlameTriggerSPELL on script DreeARMMQ06IntoFlameScript attached to  (2607E341) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

Missing scripts from this one, likely was a mod that was uninstalled:

[11/14/2014 - 11:35:35PM] Cannot open store for class "_Lull_Bottom_SpawnDarkMer", missing file?

 

These are even before anything like sexlab or Integration has a chance to start up, by the time they do the are having problems from the errors already happening. After that things start getting worse.

 

I don't know what mod causes the hearthfire BYOH script to track everything you do but it needs to be redone so it does not do that (or should just die, it is not necessary at all). These are all over the place and should not be.

[11/14/2014 - 11:35:37PM] [byohhousebuildingscript <BYOHHouseBuilding (0500305D)>] UpdateLogCount

 

This mod is the next one starting to hit with errors:

[11/14/2014 - 11:35:38PM] Error: File "BoundPickaxe.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.

stack:

<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?

[amController (55001869)].ammodscript.OpenMod() - "amModScript.psc" Line 48

[amController (55001869)].ammodscript.SupportCheck() - "amModScript.psc" Line 144

[amController (55001869)].amcontrollerscript.Initialize() - "amControllerScript.psc" Line 147

[alias PlayerAlias on quest amController 

 

Then the BYOH hits again

 

And this is where you are screwed:

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] Suspended stack count is over our warning threshold, dumping stacks:

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] VM is freezing...

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] VM is frozen

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] Dumping stack 691782:

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] Frame count: 0 (Page count: 0)

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] Type: Normal

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] Return register: None

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] Has stack callback: No

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] Stack trace:

[11/14/2014 - 11:36:52PM] [ (00109D4D)].critterspawn.OnUnload() - (requested call)

 

At this point I am only 20% of the way through the log, looking over the rest of it almost all of it is Dump stack errors. Find out what is causing the first 3 things, fix or remove them and start a new game. If the 4th thing still throws errors after starting a new game then fix/remove that as well.

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

 

So...was thinking a bit about the upcoming follower as dominant mod...and it gave me a Devious Idea for Master, possibly after you leave a follower at the shop for a quest.

 

Master: "Your...friend has been talking to me about her feelings for you, slave...so...I'm going to let her control you when I'm not around to oversee you personally, and SHE will be reporting on your behavior to me. Do you have any complaint about that state of affairs?"

"MMMPH?!"

"I didn't think you would."

I second that idea... A dominant follower, from the shop, keeping you in check. Messing up your game if you don't do as she says, sort of like a living, nagging pet collar...

 

Telling you of stuff you have to do at the shop, when you have to get back to the shop to pose for the customer quests. Punishing you if you miss your shop deadlines, or don't do the shop quests on time.

 

She could enforce a pet collar on you for a day as punishment, abuse you. Call over enemies, to mess you around if she's angry. Abuse you in your sleep, you'd never know what she was doing to you in your sleep, or what she was putting on you. You'd wake up with a nasty surprise, or maybe even drugged in your sleep, awaking with a nasty disease or status ailment that only she could cure.

 

Maybe you'd even find a permanent tattoo on you, as you awaken... MCM on/off Maybe she'd steal all your clothes for the day, returning them the next day to you. Or attack you if you wore the wrong clothing, or items that she wanted you to wear.

 

'You've disappointed me today, you will spend tomorrow nude slave, or else I will punish you more...'

 

She'd constantly whip you, until you removed your clothes. This would attract enemies as well... Sleeping too much would incur her wrath, so no sleeping off her nude days...

 

She would be way to control you, to do her bidding, to do the shops bidding...

 

I like the idea of a bondage clad follower, very tough, but not very helpful. She'd keep you alive, but enjoy watching you get hurt... She'd cast healing spell, defensive spells, but generally stay back. She'd scare off your followers, making sure she was the only one...

 

' I'm going home, If you want me. ' Your real followers would say, as they turned and headed home, after being whipped by your bondage clad follower until they left your service.

 

If I was going to do something where the player is dominated by someone other than the Master it would likely be the player's spouse than a follower.

 

Truthfully though, I hate followers. Half the time when I need them they are not there and come wandering up after a big fight and are like "Did I miss anything?" or when they are there they are just getting in your way (if they use a bow I have more arrows in me from them than the enemy). I have used the Vilja follower mod, when she started complaining that I never take her anywhere I just wanted to say "The door is over there", instead I uninstalled the mod.

 

Getting the balance right for making the player a slave long term so you can still do things can be tricky. I want the slave framework to be somewhat adjustable so you can adjust the amount of freedom you have and how often you have to serve in the house instead of wandering around. I will make things as adjustable as I can with MCM menu settings.

I know its nothing new on the nexus but have you tried out interesting NPCs? While I do agree that most of the vanilla followers that you run into and can invite into your party are boring, incompetent, and pretty much good for nothing other than being glorified pack mules the followers from interesting NPCs are fun to have around. Though they might not ever reach the level of competence the player character reaches (I two shot revered dragons on legendary and am all but immune to damage) they do seem more competent than vanilla though that could just be my luck and/or me giving them the benefit of the doubt.

 

 

I have used that one before but removed it after a while. My problem with followers is their AI is pretty stupid most of the time, either they won't stay with me ("Ooh, shiny!" or "Ooh, bad guy!) or they don't behave properly (sometime will sneak when I do, other times not). I have made adjustments on my game's difficulty where I can have really good weapons/armor with good enchantments but still be taken down by a bandit boss in a one on one fight (this is how I want it) and this is on Expert, master level kicks my ass hard. As it is, I have not really used followers in Oblivion, FO3 or FONV except on occasion, about the only time I like them is if I have to fight a bunch of enemies at once and they can serve as a distraction for some of them.

[Veladarius]

I have the locking catsuits, boots and gas masks working but I am waiting for keywords for them to be added to DDi as the latex hoods and the gas masks should use the same keyword but since they are in different mods they would conflict.

 

Everything she has on is locked on (wish there were UNPB meshes for the catsuits).

Catsuit

Vaginal Piercings

Armbinder

Mask (acts as gag)

Blindfold

Collar

Arm Cuffs

Leg Cuffs

Pony Boots

Chastity Bra

Chastity Belt

 

[Slorm]

Is there a leather version of the catsuit (sorry I just don't get this thing about latex either in game or rl) but it would look great in leather

[Veladarius]

Is there a leather version of the catsuit (sorry I just don't get this thing about latex either in game or rl) but it would look great in leather

 

I have seen some but they are all CBBE only. With what I have set up it is rather easy to add the function to them, the script can be used for any catsuit or anything that would lock on the body as a whole (possibly some dresses or other things). Once the keywords are set up I will be giving more items the same treatment and will likely release a number of things set up for DD and would have versions for CD and independent from it as well.

[Slorm]

 

Is there a leather version of the catsuit (sorry I just don't get this thing about latex either in game or rl) but it would look great in leather

 

I have seen some but they are all CBBE only. With what I have set up it is rather easy to add the function to them, the script can be used for any catsuit or anything that would lock on the body as a whole (possibly some dresses or other things). Once the keywords are set up I will be giving more items the same treatment and will likely release a number of things set up for DD and would have versions for CD and independent from it as well.

 

 

I use CBBE so maybe I'll be in luck. The concept looks really good though as if you recall a long long way back in this thread there were discussions about a uniform (OSARE Maid from memory). If something like that (or Seducerset) could be locked on for delivery missions that would be a lot of fun indeed

 

[big tim]

Like the dominating spouse idea and the starting the game idea.

 

What happens with Cursed Loot's new quests, will one mod override the others devices or just not happen?

 

Thanks