Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[leking]

just heard tirwin say "i see that you are enjoying yourself dirty whore" i am not sure. Does it comes from animal research or sexual fame comment ?

[Donuts4me]

2 hours ago, Gristle said:

A Ragnar summon spell could be added. But since Ragnar technically is following Tirwin, it might make more sense to give Tirwin a dialogue option to summon Ragnar, something like "Tirwin, where's Ragnar?" and then she could reply "I don't know. I'll call him."

 

Is Ragnar required to accompany the player and Tirwin to Solstheim? I don't remember him having any important roles in the new quests or having any new interactions. He always just sat around and watched at designated locations during the sex scenes. Not sure why he followed us to Solstheim on my first attempt when I did not ask him to?

 

I remember after all the netch scenes ended and I told Tirwin that we needed to look for the next book, she made some kind of comment that Ragnar was getting horny watching us and would like to have some fun. When I actually asked her if she wanted to have a threesome with Ragnar, she said she did not want to do that in public!

 

I thought that was weird at first since we were nowhere near the town and we had just done naughty things with the Netches on the same beach. However, at the same time there were some Skaal hunters that ran by trying to hunt and kill an elk just before I started the Netch scenes. I assumed at the time she was referring to them being witnesses?

 

When Tirwin does not want to have sex with Ragnar in public, does that relate to location or if there are any witnesses nearby? If it is witness-related, I understand why she did not want to do anything in front of the Skaal hunters. If it is location-related, I don't get why she would not want to do anything with Ragnar on the same beach where we both just did stuff with netches?

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, Donuts4me said:

 

Did you actually ask Ragnar to follow you and Tirwin before going to Solstheim? I had a similar issue when I first started testing the new version.

 

I had not journeyed with Tirwin and Ragnar since completing version 0.22 a few months ago and they had both been just staying at their designated locations in Whiterun since then. After downloading the latest update, I only asked Tirwin to follow me and immediately fast travelled to Solstheim.

 

Upon getting there I was surprised to see Ragnar had come along with us, but he wouldn't get off the boat! He was just running in place like he was trying to get back to Skyrim on his own.

 

So, I went back to an earlier save back in Whiterun, went to the stables, actually ASKED Ragnar to follow me and Tirwin, then when I went back to Solstheim he followed us no problem. If he is still on the boat in your game, try talking to him and see if you can ask him to follow you. He might still be trying to get back to Whiterun/Skyrim because he is not an active follower.

 

If he is following you, maybe try dismissing both him and Tirwin, wait awhile and go back to Whiterun and see if they are back in their designated locations?

 

5 hours ago, Gristle said:

A Ragnar summon spell could be added. But since Ragnar technically is following Tirwin, it might make more sense to give Tirwin a dialogue option to summon Ragnar, something like "Tirwin, where's Ragnar?" and then she could reply "I don't know. I'll call him."

 

I also would like to suggest the option to ask for the next book should not be available unless Tirwin is actually following. Duh, 😉 I went to pick up from where I left off and asked her for the next book and walked out the door... then it dawned on me she was still in the wait there state.

 

 

Edited February 9, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, leking said:

just heard tirwin say "i see that you are enjoying yourself dirty whore" i am not sure. Does it comes from animal research or sexual fame comment ?

 

I think that is a SL Fame Comments phrase, but not 100% sure.  

[kamithemoon]

4 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

Yes, adding it to Tirwin's dialog would be the nicest approach for that imo.  The PC can be swamped with summon powers.

 

... but I feel you're right on Tirwin it would be more immersive.

 

If Ragnar is falling behind or lost

 

PC : "Where's Ragnar, I thought he was following?"

Tirwin : "Oh, he was right behind us, he does wonder off sometimes." 

Tirwin : " <Whistle> Ragnar, where are you? Come boy!"

 

If really ambitious you could also add a "Ragnar wait" dialog to her.

 

PC : "Think Ragnar should stay here?"

Tirwin : "Sure, Ragnar stay, be a good boy." 

 

then if Ragnar was in the Wait state the dialog to bring him back can be different...

 

PC : "Call Ragnar, we need to be going."

Tirwin : "Ragnar! Come on boy! <Whistle> <Whistle> "

 

etc...

 

For future use:

Test 1

Test 2

Test 3

[Lcklsmth]

On 7/26/2024 at 6:36 PM, Gristle said:

The objective at the stage after the wolf sex should be "Speak to Tirwin about the wolf". There is no quest marker on Tirwin during this stage (but she is right there). A quest marker could be added to her, but then it would float over her head in the sex scenes that can occur during this stage, which looks bad.  Speaking to her during this stage should give the PC options to continue looking for the next book, as well as various PC/Tirwin/animal sex request options. Are you seeing those?

I encountered two issues during the wolf quest (v. 0.3):

1- I was exploring the area around the camp (at the objective where I was sent to free the wolf from the camp by Aela), and the objective for the quest updated to talking to Tirwin for her to initiate sex with the wolf. The wolf cage was opened in the camp, and I had to call Tirmin to bring her there.

Since this was my first time running this mod, I didn't know it skipped objectives.

I spoke to Tirmin, I went she was behind the wagon while she had sex with the wolf, and then once she was done, the objective didn't update to talk to her, and talking to her didn't progress to the next objective.

That would be issue #1, though it may result from skipping steps in the quest. I updated to the latest version just now; I'll go back in-game and see if the issue was solved; if not, I'll use console commands to continue the quest.

2- The second issue is having skipped part of the quest as I explored the camp (after Tirmin has sex with the wolf). I got the prompt to find the key to the cage; I couldn't do that objective once I found it since the cage was already opened from bug #1.

These are not game-breaking since I can use console commands, so I'm just reporting them if you want to look at them.

[eflat01]

3 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

 

For future use:

Test 1

Test 2

Test 3

 

Damn! you're quick... 😃 and those are really nice. I don't think Gristle and Killer905 are decided on the idea, just a possibility tossed out there.  Though I agree with him that the place for it would be nice if it were via Tirwin.

 

Currently Ragnar has both "stay" and "dismiss" from the PC but I also think even those would be better if they were through Tirwin too.... After all, the husky is following her, just seems to me he's her dog. 

 

 

Edited February 10, 2025 by eflat01

[kkiiees]

8 hours ago, Gristle said:

Looks fun! Will you create a mod page, or would you like me to add to the downloads section of this mod?

Yeah, go ahead and add it to the download section, I wouldn't mind

 

[killer905]

1 hour ago, kamithemoon said:

 

For future use:

Test 1

Test 2

Test 3

I would have a problem adding whistle to the dialogue.... Or spent too much time on it 😧

31 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

Damn! you're quick... 😃 and those are really nice. I don't think Gristle and Killer905 are decided on the idea, just a possibility tossed out there.  Though I agree with him that the place for it would be nice if it were via Tirwin.

We are open to suggestions. :3

Dialogue at Tirwin to summon Ragnar would be ok instead of a summoning spell. Tirwin has her summon spell.

34 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

Currently Ragnar has a "stay" and "dismiss" from the PC but I also think even those would be better if through Tirwin too.... After all, the husky is following her, seems to me he's her dog. 

Because it is her dog he liked her at first sight. Tirwin also like him or maybe she like his cock ^^

[killer905]

Additionally, Tirwin as of this update (after the mammoth task) we can set her outfit (even if she is not) as skimpy or topless. For obvious reasons, she will not walk around town or inside buildings in a skimpy or topless outfit.

[kkiiees]

10 hours ago, eflat01 said:

was using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/93266?tab=files though... so am rearranging the load a bit for the time being. I may go back through and edit to use the newer version later.

 

I'm not sure what they improved? 

Well, they said in the mod page that this is an upscaled and edited version to 2k and 1k resolution of SG eyebrows and they are standalone so you can still download the original with high poly patch. I'm not planning to use it since my PC is about to out of storage so I gonna save it as much as I can but I can still make a patch for it if you want (or you could just do it yourself if you are capable)

10 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Also dunno if it's me but Tirwin's eyes seem kind of bright

The other girls has the texture "The eye of Beauty" (expec for Naryu, she has the default eye), But Tirwin has the texture from Galactic eye. It just purely my personal taste that although Altmer are the worst (somehow even more racist than the Nord, destroy the nature in the Summerset Ilse to make it more "fairy-tale-ish/meadival-ish", .etc) Tirwin and her family are just different, and I would like to give her something more "divine" if you get what I mean.

If you don't like that you can just open the .nif in meshes\actors\character\facegendata\facegeom\Animal_Research.esp with nifskope, go to line 42 and delete this and It will not glow anymore:

 

 

[leking]

So i just started all over again. Just finished the bear quest.

 

Was a specific "vaginal" keyword applyed to this specific scene ??

 

I saw in a previous message that vag keyword was applied for the boar scene.

 

I am asking because for the bear i only load anal and oral animation and when tirwin had to engage with him nothing happend like if i had no animation but the quest was done. Same when i then asked her to teach me to engage with the bear. 

 

With other bears using aroused creatures everything work. In previous version tirwin engaged in an anal scene during the quest with no problem. 

 

Is it currently impossible to engage in an anal scene with certain beast ??

Edited February 10, 2025 by leking

[Dragonborn0110]

I need help, I'm stuck in the quest barre affair but I don't have a way point, where is the FK bear!?

[Donuts4me]

I gave 0.33 a run and did some things a little different than I did in 0.30.

 

I decided not to ask Ragnar to come along this time. Although he kept appearing at certain points like when Tirwin speaks to the player about getting a boat upon arriving at Raven Rock, coming out of the cave the ashspawn was in, the shipride to Solitude, the Solitude dock and the bridge. He always ran home immediately upon spawning. Never got permanently stuck anywhere thankfully.

 

There was a dialogue mix-up in the Tomb when looking for the old man. After getting the book and giving it to Tirwin she somehow had the dialogue line meant to be said by the player to the old man. See image.

 

Spoiler

 

Thankfully the quest still played out just fine. I did not bother selecting that dialog option and let Tirwin walk to the old man. I made sure to talk to him first and that "Your daughter is worried about you" line was there for him too. I selected that and was able to complete the mission. Tirwin kept following him until she said her lines as well. Then I was able to successfully tell Freyka we found him. You just need to get that line off Tirwin.

 

This time around I had a bug with the Bareback Riding quest that was not present on my first run. After I got the Riekling book and gave it to Tirwin, the 'Give the riekling book to Tirwin' objective could not be completed. Although the quest still continued.

 

Spoiler

 

This meant the quest marker on Tirwin would not go away and I had to see it for the rest of the quest (including the riekling/boar scenes). I was worried that the quest would never be able to be completed because of this and the marker would be permanent. Thankfully, after completing the final objective the quest did end. Although the checkbox is still empty even in the completed quests section.

 

Spoiler

 

I see you changed the animation settings for the Tirwin boar scene. For me it is one Anub animation just like with Naryu, The player scene and Tirwin's second scene still have two.

 

During this run Tirwin was not keeping her clothes off during the riekling or werebear scenes. Normally she keeps her clothes off until all the scenes have been played and the player says its time to look for the next book. Other characters like Naryu and Kaydi were keeping their clothes off during parties even when they were not in action. Not sure why TIrwin kept putting hers back on. I'm pretty sure on my first run she stayed undressed until I said it was time to go.

 

Lastly, I forgot to mention this in my first report, after completing the riekling quest Tirwin continues wearing the headdress and on my first run I took it from her right after we left the cave. When it was time to give it back to the Skaal she gave me another one and I ended up having two.

 

I thought I messed up by taking it from her the first time. So, on the second run I did not take it manually at first and just let her keep wearing it. When she told me it was time to give it back and one was added to my inventory, she was still wearing it! So, I took it from her inventory to make her take it off and once again had two. I give one to Naryu for the quest and then I am left with one extra. Looks like this needs to be corrected.

 

Other than that. It was another pretty smooth playthrough,

[killer905]

2 hours ago, Donuts4me said:

This time around I had a bug with the Bareback Riding quest that was not present on my first run. After I got the Riekling book and gave it to Tirwin, the 'Give the riekling book to Tirwin' objective could not be completed. Although the quest still continued.

 

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Which choice did you make Tharstan or Freyka after giving Tirwin the Rieklings book?

[eflat01]

14 hours ago, killer905 said:

Additionally, Tirwin as of this update (after the mammoth task) we can set her outfit (even if she is not) as skimpy or topless. For obvious reasons, she will not walk around town or inside buildings in a skimpy or topless outfit.

I feel bad because of out-right lying to her. 😜

 

I told her it's presentable, though it's skimpy and In a breeze she's flashing. Then again women between eighteen to forty-some wear something skimpy (must be Miami in the mid-1980's?. She's in magecore, most female mages are SPID with it. 

 

Though I guess I'm "not really lying" because she fits right in with everyone else... 😉 I may put her in some DX or something?

 

[eflat01]

14 hours ago, killer905 said:

I would have a problem adding whistle to the dialogue.... Or spent too much time on it 😧

We are open to suggestions. :3

Dialogue at Tirwin to summon Ragnar would be ok instead of a summoning spell. Tirwin has her summon spell.

Because it is her dog he liked her at first sight. Tirwin also like him or maybe she like his cock ^^

To include a  whistle you may have to piece together depending what you use.

 

I know you're always open for suggestions... which is why your mods turn out great.

 

Yes I think PC can get too cluttered with spells and powers but of course my thought is Ragnar is her dog... She's always remarking about how handsome he is.

 

Yes, He likes her best as long as I remember to keep Creatures Aroused "on Invite" not automatic. If that were off he'd be riding the damn PC every ten feet traveled, least seemed so, then again he may only see the PC as some toy Tirwin bought him..

 

Edited February 10, 2025 by eflat01

[Dragonborn0110]

Can someone tell me where I'm supposed to find the bear in the barre affaire quest, I have no checkpoint that tells me where it is?

[Gristle]

54 minutes ago, Dragonborn0110 said:

Can someone tell me where I'm supposed to find the bear in the barre affaire quest, I have no checkpoint that tells me where it is?

What stage are you at? (type player.sqs VAR_Bear in console to see quest stages)

 

Also, what version are you running? And did you upgrade in the middle of the bear quest?

[Gristle]

On 2/9/2025 at 10:10 AM, leking said:

Quick question. Bella dbvo was updated recently for v3.2 ; considering the small update difference with current v3.3 is the bella dbvo patch supposed to work or will i encounter problems? I mean it is only voice sound after all and i suppose v3.3 has not more dialogues than 3.2.

 

(I ask before trying cause i have so many voice pack for everything it can be a little tricky to arrange everything.)

I'm not familiar with that mod and don't know the answer.

[Gristle]

On 2/9/2025 at 10:15 AM, Gonzeh said:

 

Is there a COC for the boat? I'm finished witht he full questline LOL! I don't wanna go back a load of saves  I should of noticed sooner.

There is no COC for the boat.

[Gristle]

On 2/9/2025 at 10:34 AM, waiyan said:

Does this mod have sex scene descriptions just like Balazar's Bitch?

It has some descriptions in the logs, and a few pop ups, but it does not have the longer pop-up scene descriptions like Balazar's Bitch. 

[Alex749]

There is a bug whit dialog whit Netch, it's when you ask for a friendly bull. 

 

The mod is working fine so far whit the new things, but i would not mind some bad ends (some animal that eats the mating partner maybe the spiders) you can take up and offer yourself for it when Tirwin looks on or stay behind and let Tirwin escape the thalmor's taking their brutal punishment for her.     

Edited February 10, 2025 by Alex749

[Gristle]

22 hours ago, Donuts4me said:

 

Did you actually ask Ragnar to follow you and Tirwin before going to Solstheim? I had a similar issue when I first started testing the new version.

 

I had not journeyed with Tirwin and Ragnar since completing version 0.22 a few months ago and they had both been just staying at their designated locations in Whiterun since then. After downloading the latest update, I only asked Tirwin to follow me and immediately fast travelled to Solstheim.

 

Upon getting there I was surprised to see Ragnar had come along with us, but he wouldn't get off the boat! He was just running in place like he was trying to get back to Skyrim on his own.

 

So, I went back to an earlier save back in Whiterun, went to the stables, actually ASKED Ragnar to follow me and Tirwin, then when I went back to Solstheim he followed us no problem. If he is still on the boat in your game, try talking to him and see if you can ask him to follow you. He might still be trying to get back to Whiterun/Skyrim because he is not an active follower.

 

If he is following you, maybe try dismissing both him and Tirwin, wait awhile and go back to Whiterun and see if they are back in their designated locations?

This is a bug. Ragnar (when properly following) kept ending up in the water in the Raven Rock harbor when traveling to Solstheim, and then he couldn't climb onto the dock. To solve this problem, I teleport him onto the dock shortly after arrival. But it seems I forgot to check if he was following before putting him on the dock. I will add this check in the next version.

 

I guess the short term fix (if you don't want him in Solstheim) would be to have him follow you to Raven Rock and then dismiss him.

[killer905]

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

I feel bad because of out-right lying to her. 😜

 

I told her it's presentable, though it's skimpy and In a breeze she's flashing. Then again women between eighteen to forty-some wear something skimpy (must be Miami in the mid-1980's?. She's in magecore, most female mages are SPID with it. 

 

Though I guess I'm "not really lying" because she fits right in with everyone else... 😉 I may put her in some DX or something?

 

You can give her anything, but it can't be that she will be ‘naked’. If you use any freamwork follower, it won't take that into consideration.

 

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

To include a  whistle you may have to piece together depending what you use.

 

I know you're always open for suggestions... which is why your mods turn out great.

 

Yes I think PC can get too cluttered with spells and powers but of course my thought is Ragnar is her dog... She's always remarking about how handsome he is.

 

Yes, He likes her best as long as I remember to keep Creatures Aroused "on Invite" not automatic. If that were off he'd be riding the damn PC every ten feet traveled, least seemed so, then again he may only see the PC as some toy Tirwin bought him..

 

If Rangar had any idea who he was jumping on, he would have thought twice before doing it

2 hours ago, Dragonborn0110 said:

Can someone tell me where I'm supposed to find the bear in the barre affaire quest, I have no checkpoint that tells me where it is?

Graywinter Watch but can be problems if you did updated mod during this quest.

 

1 hour ago, Alex749 said:

There is a bug whit dialog whit Netch, it's when you ask for a friendly bull. 

 

The mod is working fine so far whit the new things, but i would not mind some bad ends (some animal that eats the mating partner maybe the spiders) you can take up and offer yourself for it when Tirwin looks on or stay behind and let Tirwin escape the thalmor's taking their their brutal punishment for her.     

A suggestion to think about.