SexLab to Ostim

[abinisa]

this could be interesting.

could you make a fool ESP that mods think SL is installed?

SL have great mods, like Apropos, and SL survival but the amount of ESM it eat isn't funny.

 

[Zibblychirp]

11 hours ago, lovalter said:

Tried with Public Whore: Sexlab animation played out as normal, no skip or black screen, and right after it ended Ostim animation started and in the middle of it I was getting other PW clients initiating SL scenes, a big mess. Same with Naked Defeat, it normally goes SL scene > restrained in furniture scene, but with this mod it starts the furniture scene in the middle of the Ostim scene

 

9 hours ago, HeavyYoungHeathens said:

Tested it on Practical Defeat, works great for the first scene, but any consecutive scenes are fired up in sexlab, any chance to fix this issue? pretty please!  

I am going to try to fix it. This might take some time.

 

2 hours ago, abinisa said:

this could be interesting.

could you make a fool ESP that mods think SL is installed?

SL have great mods, like Apropos, and SL survival but the amount of ESM it eat isn't funny.

 

I currently have no plan to implement something like this.

[MENDEFBI]

Congratulations and thank you for this amazing mod Zibblychirp!
Would it be possible for you to make a similar mod for Flower Girls?
Like "Flower Girls to Ostim"?

[Zibblychirp]

On 7/14/2024 at 2:49 PM, MENDEFBI said:

Congratulations and thank you for this amazing mod Zibblychirp!
Would it be possible for you to make a similar mod for Flower Girls?
Like "Flower Girls to Ostim"?

 

I don't think I will ever create such a mod.

[Anunya]

I'm in the process of building a new load order and was planning to give OStim a whirl for the first time... and then I see this! It's super promising 

 

Has anyone tried this out with Devious Devices or Devious Devices NG? I'm guessing OStim wouldn't play nice with OAR, which I believe DD NG uses to account for sex with restraining devices. It would be superb if that could somehow be made to work with this mod.

 

In a similar vein, has anyone here tried out this mode with Devious Followers or Submissive Lola, and what were the results?

[ni1by2]

This lookw super interesting! Does anyone know / has tested with Sexlab P+? I currently have that in my LO, and would love to continue my current run, but tbh this seems such a game changer (especially with the new Ostim animation packs coming out now) that it may well be worth starting a new run if this doesn't support sexlab P+

[randomperson7401]

5 hours ago, ni1by2 said:

This lookw super interesting! Does anyone know / has tested with Sexlab P+? I currently have that in my LO, and would love to continue my current run, but tbh this seems such a game changer (especially with the new Ostim animation packs coming out now) that it may well be worth starting a new run if this doesn't support sexlab P+

While I was using P+ the P+ animation took priority over the ostim ones. By that, I mean every time the ostim animation swapped, it would switch to the sexlab P+ one after a short delay.

[ni1by2]

Thanks - so did you have to start a new game?

 

[randomperson7401]

On 7/18/2024 at 10:32 PM, ni1by2 said:

Thanks - so did you have to start a new game?

 

I'm currently in the middle of rebuilding my modlist so I was testing on a new save each time. I think it should be fine to uninstall P+ and continue with your old save but can't really confirm anything.

[coyanimefreak]

so do animal mods work with this?

[cnsswj]

Can it support VR?
VR recently updated ostim

[ni1by2]

On 7/20/2024 at 5:17 PM, randomperson7401 said:

I'm currently in the middle of rebuilding my modlist so I was testing on a new save each time. I think it should be fine to uninstall P+ and continue with your old save but can't really confirm anything.

Hey thanks - I have decided to rebuild my LO too, haha. Finally jumping ship from 1.6.640 to the 1.6.1170. The saga never ends.

[YurielK44]

Does anyone know how to prevent recursion loops from this mod? Mod works fine until Recursion Monitor detects a loop.

Edited July 24, 2024 by YurielK44

[Zibblychirp]

7 hours ago, YurielK44 said:

Does anyone know how to prevent recursion loops from this mod? Mod works fine until Recursion Monitor detects a loop.

The recursion is expected behavior. It stops after a scene.

[Zibblychirp]

 

On 7/13/2024 at 2:22 AM, lovalter said:

Tried with Public Whore: Sexlab animation played out as normal, no skip or black screen, and right after it ended Ostim animation started and in the middle of it I was getting other PW clients initiating SL scenes, a big mess. Same with Naked Defeat, it normally goes SL scene > restrained in furniture scene, but with this mod it starts the furniture scene in the middle of the Ostim scene

 

On 7/13/2024 at 4:15 AM, HeavyYoungHeathens said:

Tested it on Practical Defeat, works great for the first scene, but any consecutive scenes are fired up in sexlab, any chance to fix this issue? pretty please!  

I could only recreate the Public Whore issue. It should be fixed now. Maybe your other issues are also fixed with the new version. If not, please provide a load order.
Sorry for the late reply I didn't have much time in RL.

[Agnot]

good to know you keep improving!!!! 

Chears!

[Algarinor]

Work very well with prison alternative, and Damsels in distress: just punishment.
I will try this week with Lola, Devious Follower continued and Binding.

[minosaminamo]

Hello friend, is there any way for me to choose which mod should be loaded by OSTim? For example, is there an option before starting the scene? Some mods that use animations with creatures or slaves don’t work well with OSTim; I noticed that if I have your mods installed, it causes glitches. thx

[SkyrimOne]

And I am about to ask a stupid question....

 

Here it goes... I love Ostim quality of animations. I've get almost a perfect alignment between bodies (and if not, I can fix it and it will remember the next time). But I love best the ability for me to select the animation I want to play, how many steps/stages and when to stop. 

 

Now, I wish the NPC triggered animation would give me the same possibility. For instance, on Slaverun, there are hours of sex animations. I wish once the NPC says.. I am going to f.... an Ostim windows would pop up and I would select the animation (or close and move on). How much more rewarding that would be?

 

I used just an example on a heavy-duty sex mod, but I am sure there is public whore, and so many mores that have NPC do want to have sex with the character. Even the DOM, PAHA mods will be well suited for this. At this time, there are 3 choices to pick. There are little variety on the animations, but most importantly, Sexlab animation are vastly inferior to Ostim as they are quite sloppy on the alignments between bodies and the environment.

 

I have not been following closely the work on this bridged-interface mod, but I wish that was the direction we are going.

 

To summarize,

A. As a character, I want to initiate a sex act. Ostim will provide that. I can select any NPC, and trigger what I want to play. DONE

B. The NPC wants to play with you. Does this mod provide a way to decide which animation to play via Ostim? Yes but limited to only few mods?

C. I can pick 2 or more NPC, select the animations and they will play for me. As a character I am NOT in play. Is this possible? Yes, in Fallout 4 via AAF I can scan the environment, select which NPCs and which animation. That would be incredible to have in Skyrim. (there are some spells that do enable 2 NPC to have sex with Ostim animations, but I feel that implementation is very limited. I cannot select which animation they play and for how long. It is just automated.)

 

If someone would like to drop a note, so I can understand point B and C. Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

[Zibblychirp]

4 hours ago, minosaminamo said:

Hello friend, is there any way for me to choose which mod should be loaded by OSTim? For example, is there an option before starting the scene? Some mods that use animations with creatures or slaves don’t work well with OSTim; I noticed that if I have your mods installed, it causes glitches. thx

I don't fully understand your first question. This mod replaces SexLab scenes with Ostim ones. So you can only use Ostim animations.
Ostim currently has no support for creatures. You need to turn handle creatures in the MCM off. This toggle is intended for the future.
Can you describe the slave problem more? Which mod, where and when does it happen?
 

 

3 hours ago, SkyrimOne said:

And I am about to ask a stupid question....

 

Here it goes... I love Ostim quality of animations. I've get almost a perfect alignment between bodies (and if not, I can fix it and it will remember the next time). But I love best the ability for me to select the animation I want to play, how many steps/stages and when to stop. 

 

Now, I wish the NPC triggered animation would give me the same possibility. For instance, on Slaverun, there are hours of sex animations. I wish once the NPC says.. I am going to f.... an Ostim windows would pop up and I would select the animation (or close and move on). How much more rewarding that would be?

 

I used just an example on a heavy-duty sex mod, but I am sure there is public whore, and so many mores that have NPC do want to have sex with the character. Even the DOM, PAHA mods will be well suited for this. At this time, there are 3 choices to pick. There are little variety on the animations, but most importantly, Sexlab animation are vastly inferior to Ostim as they are quite sloppy on the alignments between bodies and the environment.

 

I have not been following closely the work on this bridged-interface mod, but I wish that was the direction we are going.

 

To summarize,

A. As a character, I want to initiate a sex act. Ostim will provide that. I can select any NPC, and trigger what I want to play. DONE

B. The NPC wants to play with you. Does this mod provide a way to decide which animation to play via Ostim? Yes but limited to only few mods?

C. I can pick 2 or more NPC, select the animations and they will play for me. As a character I am NOT in play. Is this possible? Yes, in Fallout 4 via AAF I can scan the environment, select which NPCs and which animation. That would be incredible to have in Skyrim. (there are some spells that do enable 2 NPC to have sex with Ostim animations, but I feel that implementation is very limited. I cannot select which animation they play and for how long. It is just automated.)

 

If someone would like to drop a note, so I can understand point B and C. Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

I think what you are asking is outside the scope of this mod. If I understood you correctly, you want to be able to start Ostim scenes between NPCs and choose the animation. I think OSA by Ceo provides this functionality. Please correct me if I got your question wrong.

Edited July 26, 2024 by Zibblychirp

[ProWorx]

Man this mod is getting really tweaked for the better... loving it mate.

In all my testing I can say the mod works most of the time... however I would suggest the you NEVER have LOTS of initiator mods running simultaneously ie Scent of Sex, Scrappies Matchmaker, Skyrim Relationships... in fact I suggest you turn them all off when you want to actually game... 

Mods that work perfectly for this is 'Skyrim Relationships', Shadowmans mods usually have no problem - except Swingers swap. SLEN is usually ok except there can be issues with gender assignments... Scrappies Matchmaker can be absolutely full on with constant scene initiators.

As someone mentioned above, there is a problem that it works brilliantly, then after constant use - in nearly one sitting - it just goes SL only. This is from Scent of Sex for me.... then have problems with not being able to access the MCM menu mods to for example end current SL scene.

What I can say with certainty is make sure that in the SexLab MCM, turn OFF all the Hotkeys (I only keep Advance and End on). If you don't, then it goes buggy with the camera. Also still having hassles with attack bug and the camera angle freeze. ... think this is tied into constant use the SL scenes bleed into OStim.

But its getting better and better.

Edited July 28, 2024 by ProWorx

[SkyrimOne]

On 7/27/2024 at 1:02 AM, Zibblychirp said:

I don't fully understand your first question. This mod replaces SexLab scenes with Ostim ones. So you can only use Ostim animations.
Ostim currently has no support for creatures. You need to turn handle creatures in the MCM off. This toggle is intended for the future.
Can you describe the slave problem more? Which mod, where and when does it happen?
 

 

 

I think what you are asking is outside the scope of this mod. If I understood you correctly, you want to be able to start Ostim scenes between NPCs and choose the animation. I think OSA by Ceo provides this functionality. Please correct me if I got your question wrong.

Thanks for the reply.

 

I agree my point C) is a bit far from the current scope. Yet, I would really love to have the same implementation as I see it in Fallout 4 to Skyrim. My understanding is OSA by Ceo has lost his appeal given how well Ostim Standalone works. I recall using OSA few years back but I do not recall the ability to select 2 or more NPC, an act to perform and just be a spectator. I may have missed that opportunity.

 

My question was more for B). Or, if I have a dialog and the dialog is triggering a sex act, instead of this going to SL it goes to Ostim and there you pick the animation you want. If that is true, that opens up the ability to select the animation, duration, and the repeat, as it is all controlled by Ostim. I hope the implementation goes in this direction rathen  try to match the SL "suggested sex act" from the library, and go in an auto mode with Ostim so that you bypass the manual selection and control.

 

I have yet to install this mod as I have a full stack already, but I would love my next play to include it if what I have described is true.

 

Please let me know. Many Thanks!!

[ProWorx]

8 hours ago, SkyrimOne said:

Thanks for the reply.

 

I agree my point C) is a bit far from the current scope. Yet, I would really love to have the same implementation as I see it in Fallout 4 to Skyrim. My understanding is OSA by Ceo has lost his appeal given how well Ostim Standalone works. I recall using OSA few years back but I do not recall the ability to select 2 or more NPC, an act to perform and just be a spectator. I may have missed that opportunity.

 

My question was more for B). Or, if I have a dialog and the dialog is triggering a sex act, instead of this going to SL it goes to Ostim and there you pick the animation you want. If that is true, that opens up the ability to select the animation, duration, and the repeat, as it is all controlled by Ostim. I hope the implementation goes in this direction rathen  try to match the SL "suggested sex act" from the library, and go in an auto mode with Ostim so that you bypass the manual selection and control.

 

I have yet to install this mod as I have a full stack already, but I would love my next play to include it if what I have described is true.

 

Please let me know. Many Thanks!!

As soon as the Ostim scene triggers, you get to control the scene of what you wish to do, the duration etc... it all depends on your settings in the MCM. If you tick auto, then you have no control. Therefore use manual for what you wish and have full control. I personally have full control all the time, but I assume if you want 'auto' then you will have to experiment with settings to make the autoscene more like an SL auto animation.

Be aware that everything is limited to what OStim animations you have installed. If you are hoping for a 5 person orgy but you have none installed, you wont get them. SO I suggest to anyone that you install as many animations as possible to cover your bases. Which then can have problems beyond this mod as some animation packs - ie FunnyBuziness has issues with group scenes not there! 

What I will also state is that it will depend on what mod you have that triggers the SL and thereby the Ostim scene;
~If you use a mod like Skyrim Relationship and the NPC approaches you to flirt and you accept, then you just go into 1v1 no choice of furniture of position - you have to take control.
~If you use a mod like Scent of Sex where you make the rules on which NPC(s) engage with you, then you will trigger those scenes.
~If you use a mod like Shadowman's Parties (Orgy), or Swingers (Swap) they may have issues of not working as we want - that is not due to SexLab-to-Ostim mod.
~If you use a mod that does give options of what position and if 'rough' you want, it may not trigger the exact scene you wish.

A lot more could be said. But I think the primary concern for you is whether you want all the OStim triggered scenes to be 'auto' with you having no control, or whether you want full control. That is all about the settings in the MCM. Then make sure you have all the OStim animation packs installed to ensure you trigger what you want.

Hope that's of help.

[SkyrimOne]

2 hours ago, ProWorx said:

As soon as the Ostim scene triggers, you get to control the scene of what you wish to do, the duration etc... it all depends on your settings in the MCM. If you tick auto, then you have no control. Therefore use manual for what you wish and have full control. I personally have full control all the time, but I assume if you want 'auto' then you will have to experiment with settings to make the autoscene more like an SL auto animation.

Be aware that everything is limited to what OStim animations you have installed. If you are hoping for a 5 person orgy but you have none installed, you wont get them. SO I suggest to anyone that you install as many animations as possible to cover your bases. Which then can have problems beyond this mod as some animation packs - ie FunnyBuziness has issues with group scenes not there! 

What I will also state is that it will depend on what mod you have that triggers the SL and thereby the Ostim scene;
~If you use a mod like Skyrim Relationship and the NPC approaches you to flirt and you accept, then you just go into 1v1 no choice of furniture of position - you have to take control.
~If you use a mod like Scent of Sex where you make the rules on which NPC(s) engage with you, then you will trigger those scenes.
~If you use a mod like Shadowman's Parties (Orgy), or Swingers (Swap) they may have issues of not working as we want - that is not due to SexLab-to-Ostim mod.
~If you use a mod that does give options of what position and if 'rough' you want, it may not trigger the exact scene you wish.

A lot more could be said. But I think the primary concern for you is whether you want all the OStim triggered scenes to be 'auto' with you having no control, or whether you want full control. That is all about the settings in the MCM. Then make sure you have all the OStim animation packs installed to ensure you trigger what you want.

Hope that's of help.

Thanks for the explanation. I am good to go manual, or rather, that would be my preference always. So that is great!

 

I have plenty of OStim animations, all I could find. And yes, there are some issues with Funny Biz as some icons do appear with no avail animations. I hope that would be resolved soon.

[HahaAh]

I am running into the following issue when enabling SexLab to OStim: Player-Human NPC animations transfer fine from SexLab to Ostim but Player-Creature NPC animations don't start and instead are stuck on idle indefinitely after the automatic SexLab actor positioning. Does someone know a fix for this?

 

Creature handling is disabled in the SexLab to Ostim MCM (also tried to enable it, issue still occurs). I am using Acheron with Acheron - Simple Assault.