NymphoElf Posted July 31, 2024 Author Posted July 31, 2024 10 hours ago, IBAGadget said: Wow, what a laborious task, but my .ini file is getting there. I've added 8 more clothing mod items to my KID file. Some of my bigger packages I haven't tackled yet, as they are going to require some serious cross referencing and typing, with bodyslide, SSEEdit, and Notepad++ all open at the same time, bouncing back and forth. If only Skyrim had some kind of Material Swap setup like FO4 has, thus requiring the Keyword to only have to be applied to the base file, rather than each individual color option item. For example, the Psychic Warrior Dress from Rektas - there are 6 different color options, as well as three variations of each color. makes the entry in the .ini look like this: ;Psychic Warrior Keyword = AND_Miniskirt|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Dress 01,Psychic Warrior - Dress 02,Psychic Warrior - Dress 03,Psychic Warrior - Dress 04,Psychic Warrior - Dress 05,Psychic Warrior - Dress 06 Keyword = AND_MiniskirtT|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Dress 01 (TR),Psychic Warrior - Dress 02 (TR),Psychic Warrior - Dress 03 (TR),Psychic Warrior - Dress 04 (TR),Psychic Warrior - Dress 05 (TR),Psychic Warrior - Dress 06 (TR) Keyword = AND_MiniskirtT|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Dress 01 (TR2),Psychic Warrior - Dress 02 (TR2),Psychic Warrior - Dress 03 (TR2),Psychic Warrior - Dress 04 (TR2),Psychic Warrior - Dress 05 (TR2),Psychic Warrior - Dress 06 (TR2) Keyword = AND_PelvicFlashRisk|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Dress 01,Psychic Warrior - Dress 02,Psychic Warrior - Dress 03,Psychic Warrior - Dress 04,Psychic Warrior - Dress 05,Psychic Warrior - Dress 06 Keyword = AND_AssFlashRisk|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Dress 01,Psychic Warrior - Dress 02,Psychic Warrior - Dress 03,Psychic Warrior - Dress 04,Psychic Warrior - Dress 05,Psychic Warrior - Dress 06 Keyword = AND_VaginaPasties|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Panty 01,Psychic Warrior - Panty 02,Psychic Warrior - Panty 03,Psychic Warrior - Panty 04,Psychic Warrior - Panty 05,Psychic Warrior - Panty 06 Keyword = AND_Bra|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Inner 01,Psychic Warrior - Inner 02,Psychic Warrior - Inner 03,Psychic Warrior - Inner 04,Psychic Warrior - Inner 05,Psychic Warrior - Inner 06 Keyword = AND_Underwear|Armor|Psychic Warrior - Inner 01,Psychic Warrior - Inner 02,Psychic Warrior - Inner 03,Psychic Warrior - Inner 04,Psychic Warrior - Inner 05,Psychic Warrior - Inner 06 I will gladly share any entries that I make for others to use, with one exception: If the outfit has zaps to remove parts, you're on your own. Users will have to decide what Keywords they want on that part depending on how they decide to set it up in their game. Obi's Eclipse Seductress for example. With or without Breast Covers? With, you could use AND_Bra Without, it would be AND_Bra_NoCover Overall, I think I'm getting the hang of it. Yeah, sometimes that can't be helped. However, I would recommend trying the wildcards again and see if it works. For example, you could do: "AND_Underwear|Armor|*Psychic Warrior - Inner" Or "AND_Underwear|Armor|*Inner" (if those are the only items with the word 'inner' in the name) and it should grab all of them. Unfortunately for the tops, they have a variant with an extremely similar name so that's not an option.
Licki Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 I apologize for my ignorance, just I'm wondering about the precise use of this mod. From everything I'm reading, mod creators need to use your framework to create a file for each individual armor piece that has keywords to describe the armor. Your mod then communicates these keywords to compatible mods so those mods can then accurately determine the PC's state of skimpiness or nudity and also shows the player these stats in a MCM? So just a modder resource that is visible in game? My real question here I guess is: Is the MCM interactable in anyway so that the player can adjust these values and keywords on the fly? Because if so, then it's messing up on my end. My MCM for your mod is several pages of "NO" with the only toggle I can affect being to tell the mod to ignore Baka's Keywords. Only reason I grabbed this mod is because another mod labeled this as important and the concept of you mod is great. But if it isn't interactable at all, it has little to no use for me as a normie end-user. Several of the other mods I use allow me some measure of assigning values/keywords to individual armors, some even save these values with one making me have to return to it to say yes/no to whether or not what I'm currently wearing can be considered skimpy. But I have multiple cosmetic mods making my armors more revealing but those original authors don't have the accompanying files that your mod seems to require, so everything is coming up as fully clothed, according to your mod.
IBAGadget Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, Licki said: I apologize for my ignorance, just I'm wondering about the precise use of this mod. From everything I'm reading, mod creators need to use your framework to create a file for each individual armor piece that has keywords to describe the armor. Your mod then communicates these keywords to compatible mods so those mods can then accurately determine the PC's state of skimpiness or nudity and also shows the player these stats in a MCM? So just a modder resource that is visible in game? Not quite. The end user (you, me, whoever) creates the .ini file for Keyword Item Distributor (KID) to assign Keywords from this mod to the clothing/armor pieces in your game. I might assign different keywords to items that you would, or the Mod author. 10 minutes ago, Licki said: My real question here I guess is: Is the MCM interactable in anyway so that the player can adjust these values and keywords on the fly? Because if so, then it's messing up on my end. My MCM for your mod is several pages of "NO" with the only toggle I can affect being to tell the mod to ignore Baka's Keywords. No. The keywords are assigned by the .ini file that you create. AND merely reads those keywords, determines the assigned skimpiness level, and sends that info to other mods (like Sexy Adventures) If your MCM is giving you nothing but NO results, it means you haven't set up an .ini file for KID (or, alternately, set AND as a master for your clothing mod, then used SSEEdit to assign keywords from AND to the clothing pieces) 14 minutes ago, Licki said: Only reason I grabbed this mod is because another mod labeled this as important and the concept of you mod is great. But if it isn't interactable at all, it has little to no use for me as a normie end-user. Several of the other mods I use allow me some measure of assigning values/keywords to individual armors, some even save these values with one making me have to return to it to say yes/no to whether or not what I'm currently wearing can be considered skimpy. But I have multiple cosmetic mods making my armors more revealing but those original authors don't have the accompanying files that your mod seems to require, so everything is coming up as fully clothed, according to your mod The author of the clothing mod is not necessarily responsible for assigning keywords to the armor pieces - to do that, they would have to set the mod up to require AND as a master file pre-requisite. You need to create your own .ini file for KID for your clothing mods, assigning keywords to them that fits with how you have the article created in your game. This is why I won't share my .ini files that I might do for clothing/armor mods that have zaps - I might build those articles of clothing different than someone else, and that could radically change what keywords are appropriate for that item. You'll see what I mean if you look at my post on page 6 with the bodyslide screenshots - same clothing piece, radically different ways to build it. I would suggest that you go back to the first post on the first page, and read the whole thing, where NymphoElf explains what the mod does, how it works, and what you need to do to set it up. I was confused about how to set it up as well, which you will see if you go back a couple pages and read my posts. You will also see that NymphoElf was very good about explaining how it works, and helped me with sorting out how to set up my own .ini file for KID. I have expanded that .ini file significantly over the last couple days as I have gotten used to how it works. It really isn't as difficult as it might seem at first. 3
NymphoElf Posted August 1, 2024 Author Posted August 1, 2024 (edited) @Licki as IBAGadget said, you need to do a bit of work yourself to get this mod truly working. Unfortunately, I cannot create files for every armor mod that exists. There are simply too many of them, and there are always more coming out. Therefore, I have done my best to give you the information you need to set up your own files for this mod to work as you want. If you use Baka's Keywords, then you should be familiar with how this process should work already. It's the same concept. I HEAVILY recommend using Keyword Item Distributor (KID). As IBAGadget also explained, it's not very difficult at all to set up your own ".ini" file for KID. Just a little time consuming at first. Please look through the mentioned comments on page 6 for further help/explanation. I have also provided KID ini files for the very popular Amazing World of Bikini Armor mod, as well as their addons and expansions, both as something to get you started, as well as a soft guide to help you create your own for other armor mods. I have tried very hard to make it as easy as possible for people to use this mod, but I can only do so much. I also do not know how to add keywords to things like OSL Aroused does because I cannot do that via Papyrus. It's something I must do via C++ and I do not have the skillset to do that right now, and I likely will not have that skillset for a LONG time. Lastly, as for the MCM, it's intentionally not interactable for most of it. It's mostly there to help you know what your Nudity state currently is, and what keywords are being detected on your character. The only interactable options are the "Ignore Baka Keywords" toggle and adjusting your Flash Chances on the fly in-game if you desire. But these are dependent on getting the proper keywords set up either via KID or using SSE Edit. 2 hours ago, Licki said: another mod labeled this as important Which mod? Is it Sexy Adventures? Or is it another mod? If more mods are using my framework, please let me know so I can link them in the description. 1 hour ago, IBAGadget said: You will also see that NymphoElf was very good about explaining how it works, and helped me with sorting out how to set up my own .ini file for KID. Edited August 1, 2024 by NymphoElf 2
squart2203 Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 (edited) If anyone's using OSL Aroused, you can actually register AND keywords into OSL's system and assign them while you're in game. Yes the keywords field would bloat, but personally I find this method preferable than writing and troubleshooting a shitload of KID files, I do have quite a habit of hoarding outfits and switching them out on a whim. Here's a premade. Copy and overwrite your OSLAroused.ini file. It should be located in the SKSE/Plugins/ folder of your OSL Aroused mod folder. In case you already have other things registered, just paste the body below whatever you've already got. You can modify it to your liking, just have to add "KeywordEditorId = AND_insert_tag_here" without the quotes. the keywords should show up in the keyword editing section of OSL's MCM in the same order as the .ini file Spoiler [RegisteredKeywords] KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtain KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtainT KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtain KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtainT KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtain KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtainT KeywordEditorId = AND_Miniskirt KeywordEditorId = AND_MiniskirtT KeywordEditorId = AND_Microskirt KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTopT KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottomT KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_Hotpants KeywordEditorId = AND_HotpantsT KeywordEditorId = AND_ShowgirlSkirt KeywordEditorId = AND_ShowgirlSkirtT KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra KeywordEditorId = AND_BraT KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear KeywordEditorId = AND_UnderwearT KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong KeywordEditorId = AND_ThongT KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_CString KeywordEditorId = AND_CStringT KeywordEditorId = AND_NearlyNaked KeywordEditorId = AND_NipplePasties KeywordEditorId = AND_VaginaPasties KeywordEditorId = AND_CoversAll KeywordEditorId = AND_Ignore KeywordEditorId = AND_EffectivelyNaked KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskLow KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRisk KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskHigh KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskExtreme KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskUltra KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskLow KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRisk KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskHigh KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskExtreme KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskUltra KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskLow KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRisk KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskHigh KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskExtreme KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskUltra KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtain_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtainT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtain_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtainT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtain_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtainT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Miniskirt_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_MiniskirtT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Microskirt_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTopT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottomT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Hotpants_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_HotpantsT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_HimboSkirt _Male KeywordEditorId = AND_HimboSkirtT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra_Male_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_BraT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_UnderwearT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ThongT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_BananaHammock_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_BananaHammockT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_NearlyNaked_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_NipplePasties_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_CoversAll_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_EffectivelyNaked_Male Note: I've not tested the keywords for male characters, but you should be able to edit the file easily enough. Edit: For anyone using MO, in the off chance you have some other mod that also tweaks the .ini file like this handy mod, make sure you're editing the correct file. Easiest way would be to track them in the Data section of MO. Spoiler in case of Mod Organizer, the red text should tell you what mod has priority on that particular file. Edited August 5, 2024 by squart2203
IBAGadget Posted August 5, 2024 Posted August 5, 2024 34 minutes ago, squart2203 said: If anyone's using OSL Aroused, you can actually register AND keywords into OSL's system and assign them while you're in game. Yes the keywords field would bloat, but personally I find this method preferable than writing and troubleshooting a shitload of KID files, I do have quite a habit of hoarding outfits and switching them out on a whim. Here's a premade. Copy and overwrite your OSLAroused.ini file. It should be located in the SKSE/Plugins/ folder of your OSL Aroused mod folder. In case you already have other things registered, just paste the body below whatever you've already got. You can modify it to your liking, just have to add "KeywordEditorId = AND_insert_tag_here" without the quotes. the keywords should show up in the keyword editing section of OSL's MCM in the same order as the .ini file Reveal hidden contents [RegisteredKeywords] KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtain KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtainT KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtain KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtainT KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtain KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtainT KeywordEditorId = AND_Miniskirt KeywordEditorId = AND_MiniskirtT KeywordEditorId = AND_Microskirt KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTopT KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottomT KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_Hotpants KeywordEditorId = AND_HotpantsT KeywordEditorId = AND_ShowgirlSkirt KeywordEditorId = AND_ShowgirlSkirtT KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra KeywordEditorId = AND_BraT KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear KeywordEditorId = AND_UnderwearT KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong KeywordEditorId = AND_ThongT KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong_NoCover KeywordEditorId = AND_CString KeywordEditorId = AND_CStringT KeywordEditorId = AND_NearlyNaked KeywordEditorId = AND_NipplePasties KeywordEditorId = AND_VaginaPasties KeywordEditorId = AND_CoversAll KeywordEditorId = AND_Ignore KeywordEditorId = AND_EffectivelyNaked KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskLow KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRisk KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskHigh KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskExtreme KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestFlashRiskUltra KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskLow KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRisk KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskHigh KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskExtreme KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicFlashRiskUltra KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskLow KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRisk KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskHigh KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskExtreme KeywordEditorId = AND_AssFlashRiskUltra KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtain_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ChestCurtainT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtain_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_PelvicCurtainT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtain_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_AssCurtainT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Miniskirt_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_MiniskirtT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Microskirt_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTopT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorTop_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottomT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Hotpants_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_HotpantsT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_HimboSkirt _Male KeywordEditorId = AND_HimboSkirtT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra_Male_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_BraT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Bra_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_UnderwearT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Underwear_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_ThongT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_Thong_NoCover_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_BananaHammock_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_BananaHammockT_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_NearlyNaked_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_NipplePasties_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_CoversAll_Male KeywordEditorId = AND_EffectivelyNaked_Male Note: I've not tested the keywords for male characters, but you should be able to edit the file easily enough. Edit: For anyone using MO, in the off chance you have some other mod that also tweaks the .ini file like this handy mod, make sure you're editing the correct file. Easiest way would be to track them in the Data section of MO. Reveal hidden contents in case of Mod Organizer, the red text should tell you what mod has priority on that particular file. I have also done this, but there is a downside Any AND keywords that you apply to an outfit in OSLA will also trigger arousal increases - great if you want your dragonbabe in a constant state of extreme arousal and stopping every five minutes to cum. Not so great otherwise. example: You have a loincloth that dangles in front and behind - you apply the Pelvic Curtain and Ass Curtain keywords, along with High Flash Risk keywords for each - OSLA treats this as four keywords that all serve to increase your arousal OSLA will also not show you the full listing of AND keywords, even if you register them all - seems to be a display limit in the mod (I haven't looked at the .ini for OSLA, so maybe there's a fix in there?)
NymphoElf Posted August 5, 2024 Author Posted August 5, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, squart2203 said: I find this method preferable than writing and troubleshooting a shitload of KID files, I do have quite a habit of hoarding outfits and switching them out on a whim. I understand that you may not necessarily be complaining about AND itself, but unfortunately there's no realistic workaround for constantly adding and/or removing outfits. The reason I recommend using KID is because you don't have to remove the "ini" files if you remove/disable an outfit mod. You can safely leave it there, and it will re-apply the keywords if you ever use the mod you removed again. Yes, initial setup can be time consuming, but once it's done it's basically done forever (unless you delete the KID file). Edited August 5, 2024 by NymphoElf
wolfeman77346 Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 (edited) I just wanted to take a moment to thank you @NymphoElf for this mod, and throw some love your way. It is one of the better mods for Skyrim that I have seen to date, and I only wish it had been available before now. It takes some time to get the outfits together, but I LOVE that once I add the outfit to the KID file, im done with it for all future game runs. Definitely an essential mod for all future play-throughs. Edited August 7, 2024 by wolfeman77346 2
NymphoElf Posted August 7, 2024 Author Posted August 7, 2024 1 minute ago, wolfeman77346 said: I just wanted to take a moment to thank you @NymphoElf for this mod, and throw some love your way. It is one of the better mods for Skyrim that I have seen to date, and I only wish it had been available before now. It takes some time to get the outfits together, but I LOVE that once I add the outfit to the KID file, im done with it for all future game runs. Definitely an essential mod for all future play-throughs. Here is a partial file of clothing from BDs Armor and Clothes Replacer as well as a couple other mods Im working on slowly. I modified the header to make it easier for my use as well. AND_Clothing_KID.ini.txt 5.41 kB · 1 download Thank you so much for the kind words! Can you please put the ini file into a rar/zip/7z file and post it in the file share blog I linked in the description? I'm trying to send people there so they can share and download ini files more easily.
IBAGadget Posted August 7, 2024 Posted August 7, 2024 45 minutes ago, NymphoElf said: Can you please put the ini file into a rar/zip/7z file and post it in the file share blog I linked in the description? I'm trying to send people there so they can share and download ini files more easily. Thank you so much for the file share. I've uploaded what I currently have done with my KID file. 2
foxcon145 Posted August 17, 2024 Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) Have you considered adding keywords for extremely "form-fitting" pieces (e.g. Fleet Knight)? Obviously those wouldn't directly be flashing but it kinda seems important to have this. I've seen mods that add (non-transparent) bodysuits that didn't have slot 32 and couldn't even be properly distinguished by Babodialogue. And I think proper keywords for form-fitting leggings/pants are not considered or given by Babodialogue (or fishnet/transparent leggings). Edited August 17, 2024 by foxcon145
NymphoElf Posted August 17, 2024 Author Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, foxcon145 said: Have you considered adding keywords for extremely "form-fitting" pieces (e.g. Fleet Knight)? Obviously those wouldn't directly be flashing but it kinda seems important to have this. I've seen mods that add (non-transparent) bodysuits that didn't have slot 32 and couldn't even be properly distinguished by Babodialogue. And I think proper keywords for form-fitting leggings/pants are not considered or given by Babodialogue (or fishnet/transparent leggings). The question I'm stuck with here is: Yes you can "see" their body shape underneath, but are they really "showing" their body? From your example, yes that's a fairly erotic armor, but they ARE technically covered. I need to have a clear line between "showing" and "Not showing". Additionally, for Fishnets, I would recommend using the "Effectively naked" keyword if transparent isn't quite doing it. I could also see an argument to have different tiers of "Transparent" flash risks, so I'm willing to add those. Additionally, if the fishnets are JUST on the legs, then they shouldn't play a factor in your nudity state and therefore shouldn't need any keywords. If they are going over your ass/crotch, then you would probably need to consider adding keywords. However, I don't think form-fitting armor by itself warrants their own function/check. Again, you ARE technically covered, so that would fall into more of an "Arousal" factor than a Nudity factor. AND is not intended to be an Arousal mod. Edited August 17, 2024 by NymphoElf
Demonwolf218 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 Does this have an effect on the vanilla NPC comments about your character being naked? In vanilla, NPC's will comment that you're naked if you clothes do not have the correct keywords. Followers will also comment that they are embarrassed about being naked Infront of you. It would be awesome if this mod could address this.
NymphoElf Posted August 18, 2024 Author Posted August 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Demonwolf218 said: Does this have an effect on the vanilla NPC comments about your character being naked? In vanilla, NPC's will comment that you're naked if you clothes do not have the correct keywords. Followers will also comment that they are embarrassed about being naked Infront of you. It would be awesome if this mod could address this. There's no way to change vanilla Nudity. It's part of the main ESM (Skyrim.esm) which cannot be changed. However, the second part sounds like it's part of SLSF Fame Comments. That would be something to ask Gristle.
foxcon145 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) Could you give a more completed and detailed information about how your keywords are intended to be used? The mod page is a bit sparse. I liked that Bakafactory had his keyword manual that would explain what every specific keyword means for a piece of armor. Would be nice if you added some images for comparison. 15 hours ago, NymphoElf said: The question I'm stuck with here is: Yes you can "see" their body shape underneath, but are they really "showing" their body? From your example, yes that's a fairly erotic armor, but they ARE technically covered. I need to have a clear line between "showing" and "Not showing". [...] However, I don't think form-fitting armor by itself warrants their own function/check. Again, you ARE technically covered, so that would fall into more of an "Arousal" factor than a Nudity factor. AND is not intended to be an Arousal mod. I get what your mod wants to do. But I have to object, however, that the obvious, fundamental goal of such a mod is to provoke an NPC reaction (am I right?). And this reaction is triggered by nudity, but not just nudity in the true sense of the word, but by nudity in the NPC's imagination, and the NPC is to be portrayed authentically. If you dress revealingly, you will provoke a reaction from the NPCs. Obviously you are not nude when wearing a skirt and panty and when you flash there is an NPC reaction (directly by dialogue or indirectly by fame). IMHO your mod is somewhat incomplete if you leave that out, because other mods (BaboDialogue) then rely on the basis being provided to them (considering Bakafactory would switch, which I don't know about). Edited August 18, 2024 by foxcon145
NymphoElf Posted August 18, 2024 Author Posted August 18, 2024 3 minutes ago, foxcon145 said: Could you give a more completed and detailed information about how your keywords are intended to be used? The mod page is a bit sparse. I liked that Bakafactory had his keyword manual that would explain what every specific keyword means for a piece of armor. Would be nice if you added some images for comparison I will work on a better description. 4 minutes ago, foxcon145 said: I get what your mod wants to do. But I have to object, however, that the obvious, fundamental goal of such a mod is to provoke an NPC reaction (am I right?) No. This mod is only intended as a foundation for other mods to use. This mod is intended to expand the Nudity system beyond simply "Naked" or "Not Naked". This mod is not intended to have DIRECT impact on gameplay whatsoever. This mod is intended to be utilized by OTHER mods, such as Sexy Adventures, to make those gameplay impacts happen based on the Nudity conditions from this mod.
Demonwolf218 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 3 hours ago, NymphoElf said: There's no way to change vanilla Nudity. It's part of the main ESM (Skyrim.esm) which cannot be changed. However, the second part sounds like it's part of SLSF Fame Comments. That would be something to ask Gristle. I think something like this would work but needs testing 1
Dorabella Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 Just a curiosity. Is this message coming from this mod? Spoiler
NymphoElf Posted August 18, 2024 Author Posted August 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Dorabella said: Just a curiosity. Is this message coming from this mod? Reveal hidden contents No that's Sexlab Survival
NymphoElf Posted August 18, 2024 Author Posted August 18, 2024 2 hours ago, Demonwolf218 said: I think something like this would work but needs testing I'll see what I can do with this.
ebbluminous Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 8 minutes ago, NymphoElf said: No that's Sexlab Survival It's one of the Bikini Mods I think - I get it, but don't have survival
NymphoElf Posted August 18, 2024 Author Posted August 18, 2024 Just now, ebbluminous said: It's one of the Bikini Mods I think - I get it, but don't have survival Babodialogue has a similar notification
ebbluminous Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, NymphoElf said: Babodialogue has a similar notification Got Babo as well. Well too many mods in all to track bother trackign some things down
NymphoElf Posted August 18, 2024 Author Posted August 18, 2024 Just now, ebbluminous said: Got Babo as well. Well too many mods in all to track bother trackign some things down I'm almost certain it's Babo Dialogue if you're not using Sexlab Survival
Demonwolf218 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 1 hour ago, NymphoElf said: I'll see what I can do with this. It seems to be working! I don't have any patched armors to really try it, but the NPCs seem to be able to detect nudity properly. Here is a copy if you wanna try it. NoNakedCommentsAdvanced.esp 1
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