Advanced Nudity Detection

[Dorabella]

2 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

No that's Sexlab Survival 

Strange , I don't have this mod installed 😁🤣

[NymphoElf]

4 minutes ago, Dorabella said:

Strange , I don't have this mod installed 😁🤣

 

Then it's probably Babo Dialogue. They have very similar notifications IIRC

[Dorabella]

16 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

Then it's probably Babo Dialogue. They have very similar notifications IIRC

I have this one , thank you 😁

[Macesin]

Seems AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover is not working correctly. Shows up that my items have it but continue to give me the "Nude" and "Bottomless" True even though that should be false with that item on. AND_ArmorTop_NoCover works fine. I also tested AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover with underwear and that reports fine. So just seems ONLY items with just AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover are not working right.

[LynErso666]

Idk if it's the new Sexual Fame scripts like for sure, but SLSF seems less stable than even was before. For some reason it has no ability to clear cum via its power now which is the only way i have to do it for compatibility assurance. And 7 out of 10 new saves see a version of SLSF that doesn't even start correctly. Ive ran over 300 test saves now testing for a large order and I feel like iz time to leave that zombie of a mod dead fr this time anyways. It was always prone to strange failures. I really do hope u are able to work on it someday tho ☺ I know u said something about redoing something on it, but I don't reccommend it or any dependencies on it anymore at this point thaz for sure.

[NymphoElf]

44 minutes ago, LynErso666 said:

Idk if it's the new Sexual Fame scripts like for sure, but SLSF seems less stable than even was before. For some reason it has no ability to clear cum via its power now which is the only way i have to do it for compatibility assurance. And 7 out of 10 new saves see a version of SLSF that doesn't even start correctly. Ive ran over 300 test saves now testing for a large order and I feel like iz time to leave that zombie of a mod dead fr this time anyways. It was always prone to strange failures. I really do hope u are able to work on it someday tho ☺ I know u said something about redoing something on it, but I don't reccommend it or any dependencies on it anymore at this point thaz for sure.

 

I actually just released a Public BETA of SLSF Reloaded. It's made completely from scratch. However I do have a few reported issues I need to look into when I get home today, so maybe wait for the next update? Depending on what I find/figure out. Should be sometime tonight or tomorrow.

[LynErso666]

2 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

I actually just released a Public BETA of SLSF Reloaded. It's made completely from scratch. However I do have a few reported issues I need to look into when I get home today, so maybe wait for the next update? Depending on what I find/figure out. Should be sometime tonight or tomorrow.

Whoa! No way! I dip for a week or so and you already rewriting it, you soldier you! Thanks very much and Im looking forward to it. Ill be sure to go like tthe page

[NymphoElf]

59 minutes ago, LynErso666 said:

Whoa! No way! I dip for a week or so and you already rewriting it, you soldier you! Thanks very much and Im looking forward to it. Ill be sure to go like tthe page

 

Dawwwe shucks. You flatter me 

[Macesin]

Hey Nympho are you able to replicate the issue I am having where AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover is still showing me as nude and bottomless? Every other Keyword seems to work perfect outside of that one.

[NymphoElf]

12 minutes ago, Macesin said:

Hey Nympho are you able to replicate the issue I am having where AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover is still showing me as nude and bottomless? Every other Keyword seems to work perfect outside of that one.

 

I forgot to add that to the bottomless exclusion list. Thanks for catching that!

[Arcane Wanderer]

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 (I also want to point out that Advanced Nudity Detection is entirely Armor Slot agnostic. It only checks Keywords and applies Faction Rank based on the combinations it finds. I designed it with that specifically in mind, which is why there are so many Keywords. Checking Armor Slots isn't reliable enough for that mod's purpose, because not every mod author puts the same type of armor on the same slot). [snipped]

 

Interesting.  Yeah, too many slots are inconsistently used - underwear in particular seems to use 49, 52, 60, or even other slots depending on the author..    I'm surprised that you didn't use body slots as a fallback to cover cases where keywords were missing.  For example, having something in the helmet slot is pretty clear.  Well, except for open faced helmets, but that's where keywords are needed for an override.   I guess with KIC and formlist-manager and other stuff that the state of keyword distribution must be much much better than it was years ago?

[NymphoElf]

11 hours ago, Arcane Wanderer said:

 

Interesting.  Yeah, too many slots are inconsistently used - underwear in particular seems to use 49, 52, 60, or even other slots depending on the author..    I'm surprised that you didn't use body slots as a fallback to cover cases where keywords were missing.  For example, having something in the helmet slot is pretty clear.  Well, except for open faced helmets, but that's where keywords are needed for an override.   I guess with KIC and formlist-manager and other stuff that the state of keyword distribution must be much much better than it was years ago?

 

Yes, KID is great for this purpose, but you can just as easily do the old xEdit method too. Keyword management has come a surprisingly long way.

 

This mod doesn't need to look for helmets, gauntlets, or boots, so it's not necessary to check those slots. This mod is entirely body/torso-based. But I also recognize that some items could use those slots and have something that covers the body, so they're not inherently excluded either.

 

It DOES actually check for an armor in Slot 32 as a fallback check. If it doesn't find ANY keywords from this mod it will simply assume Slot 32 is vanilla and give you full coverage (or if there isn't any armor in Slot 32 and no keywords from this mod, it will assume you're nude), inherently making all vanilla armor compatible. Other than that, it only needs the keywords.

 

So not 100% armor slot agnostic, but 99.999%. For all intents and purposes it might as well be 100% though, since it's literally a last-ditch scenario.

Edited August 21, 2024 by NymphoElf

[Macesin]

If you want a fallback that has armor slot guessing, could make your own with KID. Probably most useful for giant armor addon mods that use same slots for each type of thing

[NymphoElf]

23 minutes ago, Macesin said:

If you want a fallback that has armor slot guessing, could make your own with KID. Probably most useful for giant armor addon mods that use same slots for each type of thing

 

I don't want this though. My system was made specifically to not need that. Why guess armor slots when you can just check for keywords on all possible slots?

 

In the code it's just

PlayerRef.WornHasKeyword(Keyword)

and it checks everything.

 

If I did armor slot guessing of any kind, I would need something like this:

If PlayerRef.GetEquippedArmorInSlot(32).HasKeyword(Keyword)

ElseIf PlayerRef.GetEquippedArmorInSlot(52).HasKeyword(Keyword)

ElseIf PlayerRef.GetEquippedArmorInSlot(60).HasKeyword(Keyword)

(and so on)

 

It's just unnecessary. Plus, the current system allows users to fully customize how their armor is detected by AND. Trying to guess what slot their armor is on only hinders this.

[Macesin]

Oh yeah I know you don't want that, just saying for anyone who does for some reason, they can make a fallback that way. I agree with you that it does defeat the purpose of the mod

[duck_phooey]

Does flashing actually do anything?

[NymphoElf]

On 8/24/2024 at 2:15 AM, duck_phooey said:

Does flashing actually do anything?

 

I just performed a fairly big update of the mod description. Hopefully this updated description does a better job explaining how everything works. Apologies for the confusion.

[duck_phooey]

On 8/26/2024 at 7:20 PM, NymphoElf said:

 

I just performed a fairly big update of the mod description. Hopefully this updated description does a better job explaining how everything works. Apologies for the confusion.

Yeah I still don't get it. Does flashing cause something like a small flavor text box and/or does it increase arousal of NPCs?

[IBAGadget]

23 minutes ago, duck_phooey said:

Yeah I still don't get it. Does flashing cause something like a small flavor text box and/or does it increase arousal of NPCs?

What flashing does is exposes what you are wearing underneath the curtain, and making the keyword for that item relevant.

 

example: You are wearing a tiny thong (keyword AND_CString) underneath a short skirt with a 50% flashing chance for both Pelvic and Ass.

If the 'dice roll' is over 50, then your ass and genitals are considered covered - relevant if you have laws in place that fine you for showing these in public.

if the 'dice roll' is under 50, it means that the skirt has moved to expose your thong and ass for all to see - this could result in a Bounty if you have those set as being illegal.

 

This could increase arousal for NPC's if they are aroused by seeing that. That mechanic is not covered in this mod however.

As far as flavor text goes, If you are not wearing anything underneath the skirt, and you flash everyone, you may get a message in the top left of your screen to say 'x bounty applied to Whiterun for showing ass' or 'x bounty applied to Whiterun for showing genitals', assuming that this is illegal in Whiterun for you.

[NymphoElf]

54 minutes ago, duck_phooey said:

Yeah I still don't get it. Does flashing cause something like a small flavor text box and/or does it increase arousal of NPCs?

 

No. This is not an arousal mod. This mod simply gives other mods data to work with that COULD cause arousal to increase or other things, like Sexy Adventures laws coming into effect. But this mod does not directly do those things.

 

I do have plans to add a notification for when flashing happens but there isn't anything for that yet.

[ginger0013]

hello everyone

since I've tried a few things out, I wanted to share some information.
jackets and clothes from the mod linked below work without any problems. All other items of clothing that are marked with a shield in the inventory like DD always show complete nudity in the menu, no matter what keywords I give them.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/116972

[IBAGadget]

5 hours ago, ginger0013 said:

hello everyone

since I've tried a few things out, I wanted to share some information.
jackets and clothes from the mod linked below work without any problems. All other items of clothing that are marked with a shield in the inventory like DD always show complete nudity in the menu, no matter what keywords I give them.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/116972

Can you share your KID .ini file for this outfit? I'd like to have a look at how you set it up.

[ginger0013]

18 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

Can you share your KID .ini file for this outfit? I'd like to have a look at how you set it up.

Since I'm still working full time today and tomorrow I won't be able to get to the PC, but I can upload it on Sunday. Just a question in advance: where exactly can I find the kid-ini file?
In the ssedit folder or in the main Skyrim folder?

[IBAGadget]

4 hours ago, ginger0013 said:

Since I'm still working full time today and tomorrow I won't be able to get to the PC, but I can upload it on Sunday. Just a question in advance: where exactly can I find the kid-ini file?
In the ssedit folder or in the main Skyrim folder?

This tells me you probably don't have a KID .ini file for that outfit, as you would have had to create it and then drop it in your Data folder.

Do you have KID (Keyword Item Distributor) in your modlist?

If not, how are you applying the AND keywords to the outfit pieces?

 

Here's a snippet of what the .ini file would look like (this is for Queen Marika's Dress)

 

;Marika Dress
Keyword = AND_ChestCurtain|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress,Queen Marika's Dress (Red),Queen Marika's Dress (White)
Keyword = AND_PelvicCurtain|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress,Queen Marika's Dress (Red),Queen Marika's Dress (White)
Keyword = AND_AssCurtain|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress,Queen Marika's Dress (Red),Queen Marika's Dress (White)
Keyword = AND_ChestFlashRisk|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress,Queen Marika's Dress (Red),Queen Marika's Dress (White)
Keyword = AND_PelvicFlashRisk|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress,Queen Marika's Dress (Red),Queen Marika's Dress (White)
Keyword = AND_AssFlashRisk|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress,Queen Marika's Dress (Red),Queen Marika's Dress (White)

;Marika Dress Transparent
Keyword = AND_ChestCurtainT|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent Red),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent White)
Keyword = AND_PelvicCurtainT|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent Red),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent White)
Keyword = AND_AssCurtainT|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent Red),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent White)
Keyword = AND_ChestFlashRiskHigh|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent Red),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent White)
Keyword = AND_PelvicFlashRiskHigh|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent Red),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent White)
Keyword = AND_AssFlashRiskHigh|Armor|Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent Red),Queen Marika's Dress (Transparent White)

;Marika Dress Panty
Keyword = AND_Underwear|Armor|*Elden Smalls,Elden Smalls (Red),Elden Smalls (White)
Keyword = AND_UnderwearT|Armor|*Elden Smalls (Transparent),Elden Smalls (Transparent Red),Elden Smalls (Transparent White)

 

I'll have a go at setting up a .ini file for Modular Mage sometime this coming week for the AND keywords to work with KID. I'll upload it to Nympho Elf's blog and post here when I have it done.
 

[FFUps009]

What do I do with the AND INI files I downloaded for TAWOBA keywords?