Advanced Nudity Detection

[IBAGadget]

1 hour ago, Dorabella said:

 

It would be nice to see a screen of the kimono and , if possible the compiled AND txt 

 

For the transparent dress, what keywords should be used?

 

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hard to tell just how see through it is given the darkness of the pic, but I would likely use the following keywords:

AND_AssCurtainT

AND_AssFlashRisk

AND_PelvicCurtainT

AND_PelvicFlashRisk

 

I wouldn't use the MiniSkirt Keyword, as it really doesn't look like it's short enough to qualify, and as the Transparent version of the Curtains bumps up the flash risk already, not really any need to make it a higher flash risk than Normal. You could make them:

 

AND_AssFlashRiskHigh

AND_PelvicFlashRiskHigh

 

If you feel that the dress is exceptionally thin and see through.

 

[Dorabella]

8 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

hard to tell just how see through it is given the darkness of the pic,

Corset (bra+thong) and skirt . Thank's

 

 

Edited February 23, 2025 by Dorabella

[IBAGadget]

4 minutes ago, Dorabella said:

Corset (bra+thong) and skirt 

 

 

what outfit are the pieces from? If I have it in my own load, I can look at it and see. May have already done a KID file for it.

[NymphoElf]

@Dorabella @IBAGadget Miniskirt and MiniskirtT simply act as both a Pelvic Curtain and Ass Curtain in one keyword. Length doesn't actually matter.

 

Miniskirt is the non-Transparent version

MiniskirtT is the Transparent version (Note the extra/trailing T identifying it as Transparent)

 

Also, this is all explained in the guide. Is it not clear enough?

Edited February 23, 2025 by NymphoElf

[Dorabella]

5 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

what outfit are the pieces from?

[BAKU]DOAXVV Jours d'amour 3BA   There is the same dress with transparent bra,thong and skirt, moldable in Bodyslide

[IBAGadget]

22 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

@Dorabella @IBAGadget Miniskirt and MiniskirtT simply act as both a Pelvic Curtain and Ass Curtain in one keyword. Length doesn't actually matter.

 

Miniskirt is the non-Transparent version

MiniskirtT is the Transparent version (Note the extra/trailing T identifying it as Transparent)

 

Also, this is all explained in the guide. Is it not clear enough?

Yes, the guide is clear.

 

As stated in my post I wouldn't use the miniskirt keywords, as I don't think it's short enough to qualify

This is a case of semantics and personal choice - my keyword selection results in the exact same in-game function, but with one extra line in the ini file
I tend to look at the aesthetics of the clothing/armor piece when choosing what keywords to apply.

 

Is your bikini bottom shaped like a standard pair of granny panties and made of light material? AND_Underwear keyword

Same shape, but made of leather or metal? AND_ArmorBottom

Both items might have the same amount of coverage when seen in the game, but I treat them differently based on the material look.

Bikini top with metal plates? AND_ArmorTop

Same shape but cotton? AND_Bra

Same bra in lace? AND_BraT

 

there are some items that I have no clue about. What is a C-string? What is the difference between it and a thong? As a guy, I don't really follow women's fashion. In my relationships, I've never really been concerned about what type of clothing my partner had outside of 'does she look good in it?'

[NymphoElf]

4 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

As stated in my post I wouldn't use the miniskirt keywords, as I don't think it's short enough to qualify

Ah, my bad. Misunderstood.

[IBAGadget]

24 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

Ah, my bad. Misunderstood.

No problem. I've misread and misunderstood things at times as well, and even managed to seriously stick my foot in my mouth with another modder a week ago.

 

I'd still like to know what a C-string is though. There may be items that I have labeled as thongs in AND that really should be something else.

[Dorabella]

5 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

Is your bikini bottom shaped like a standard pair of granny panties and made of light material?

It is lace , same for the bra , miniskirt and skirt . 

 

Spoiler

I removed the miniskirt, to show the dress . 

 

 

 

 

 

[IBAGadget]

I have downloaded that outfit, but not yet installed it in my game. Just looking at the source pictures though, I would probably classify the bra and panties portions as the following:

 

AND_Bra (or BraT)

AND_Underwear (or UnderwearT)

 

I would probably use a low FlashRisk, just because it does look like a heavier lace and not a filmy gauze-like lace.
I may amend this once I actually install it and look it in game to see what it looks like up close.

 

*edit* Ok, having now built it in Bodyslide and gotten a better look at things, here is how I would label the pieces:

 

Loose Cuirass:

AND_ChestCurtain

AND_ChestFlashRiskHigh (this thing is filmy and small - very good chance of it blowing around and revealing)

AND_Underwear

 

Normal Cuirass:

AND_Bra

AND_Underwear

AND_MiniskirtT

AND_PelvicFlashRisk

AND_AssFlashRisk

 

Slutty Cuirass:

AND_Bra_NoCover

AND_Underwear_NoCover

AND_MiniskirtT

AND_PelvicFlashRisk

AND_AssFlashRisk

 

Transparent Cuirass:

AND_BraT

AND_UnderwearT

AND_ChestFlashRisk

AND_PelvicFlashRiskLow

AND_AssFlashRiskLow

AND_MiniskirtT

 

If you are building the outfit with the skirt zapped, and therefore not present at all, I would only use the keywords in white. If you are building it with the skirt not zapped (therefore covering), then I would add the keywords in Yellow as well. Note that given how KID works, you can always make the ini file with the skirt keywords in it, then comment them out if you decide to build the outfit pieces without the skirt (do this by putting a semicolon ';' in front of the line you want to be ignored.

 

The Transparent Cuirass is a tough one to sort out if you have the skirt in place - the underwear is transparent, but so is the skirt. If the skirt was a separate equippable piece, then it would be easy to assign it it's own flash risk keywords on top of the flash risk keywords for the underwear.  However, because it is part and parcel all together, you can't have two flash risk keywords of the same type on it and have it read correctly (@Nymphoelf - please correct me if I'm wrong, I've never tried to put two of the same flash risk keywords on a single item). I've chosen to set the FlashRisk keywords to the 'Low' version, reflecting the fact that you have to catch it just right in order to see through both articles of clothing, which is harder to do.

 

 

Edited February 24, 2025 by IBAGadget

[NymphoElf]

On 2/23/2025 at 5:10 PM, IBAGadget said:

What is a C-string? What is the difference between it and a thong?

 

C-Strings are a type of underwear that are meant to hide or completely remove panty-lines by either hiding the side straps somehow or by straps not being present at all. The latter will adhere or otherwise cling to the pelvis, lower back, and other less mobile areas of the body as to not wear off while moving. This way you still have coverage (and possibly something to help if you're on your period) while still being able to wear a very sexy/fashionable outfit without potentially showing "embarrassing" straps. Though I probably wouldn't risk wearing such clothes if period stuff is in play. In my opinion that's just asking for trouble.

 

There are a wide variety of reasons a woman might want to hide (or just not have) panty/thong straps showing, or not have panty lines.

 

So, long story short, a C String thong is basically a glorified, thicker pasty. It's right on the borderline of what can be considered "underwear", despite how tiny and string-like many thongs have become in the last 30+ years. I still find it crazy how I can ball up my underwear and completely hide it in my hand. It's easy to forget how little you're actually wearing sometimes, especially if it's become a habit for you.

Edited March 9, 2025 by NymphoElf

[IBAGadget]

Thank you for the info. I appreciate it.

It's definitely not something I have come across in my 50+yrs, hence my lack of knowledge. But now I know.

I don't have a lot of outfits that have something like that, but the Psychic Warrior Dress does have a C-String in it's parts. I'll have to correct my ini file for that one now.

[Wrath of banana]

I cant make keyword to work with COCO Lolita. I already applied them to different outfits but with COCO's outfit I'm having a hard time.

Tried to do it with Editor ID but have the same problem. Seems like it doesn't find it

Spoiler

;Ignore
Keyword = AND_Ignore|Armor|*[COCO] Lolita Gloves, *[COCO] Lolita Shoes, *[COCO] Lolita Stockings, *[COCO] Lolita Vest, *[COCO] Lolita Headwear

;Lolita Top
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Top I, [COCO] Lolita Top II, [COCO] Lolita Top III, [COCO] Lolita Top IV
Keyword = AND_BraT_High|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Top V, [COCO] Lolita Top VI

;Lolita Skirt
Keyword = AND_Miniskirt|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Skirt I (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt II (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt III (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt IV (SMP)
Keyword = AND_PelvicFlashRiskHigh|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Skirt I (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt II (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt III (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt IV (SMP)
Keyword = AND_AssFlashRiskHigh|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Skirt I (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt II (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt III (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt IV (SMP)
Keyword = AND_MiniskirtT|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Skirt V (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt VI (SMP)
Keyword = AND_PelvicFlashRiskHigh|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Skirt V (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt VI (SMP)
Keyword = AND_AssFlashRiskHigh|Armor|[COCO] Lolita Skirt V (SMP), [COCO] Lolita Skirt VI (SMP)

 

Spoiler

 

Edit:

Everything works except [COCO] Lolita Top VI and [COCO] Lolita Skirt VI (SMP)
I dont know the reasons why

Edited March 6, 2025 by Wrath of banana

[NymphoElf]

@Wrath of banana

 

Your INI looks right. What exactly is the problem? Wrong/Unexpected conditions? Keyword not being recognized? Something else?

 

Just saying it's not working isn't enough. I need to know the specific problem.

[Wrath of banana]

12 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

@Wrath of banana

 

Your INI looks right. What exactly is the problem? Wrong/Unexpected conditions? Keyword not being recognized? Something else?

 

Just saying it's not working isn't enough. I need to know the specific problem.

It does not recognize the keywords. 
For [COCO] Lolita Top VI it considers as a any armor that takes a chest slot
[COCO] Lolita Skirt VI (SMP) doesn't do anything

Tried to change [COCO] Shadow assassin KID(I know there is a community patch but its done incorrect i think) and have the same problem that some clothes do not recognize the keywords especially if I just put their names without *

Edited March 7, 2025 by Wrath of banana

[NymphoElf]

5 hours ago, Wrath of banana said:

[COCO] Lolita Skirt VI (SMP) doesn't do anything

 

Well it looks like "Lolita Skirt VI" doesn't exist, so that would be why. It stops at V. I'm not sure how you're finding VI to wear?

 

5 hours ago, Wrath of banana said:

For [COCO] Lolita Top VI it considers as a any armor that takes a chest slot

 

Are you wearing JUST that item, or are others on as well? It's possible AND is skipping the check for that item because others are making the need to check for it unnecessary. It could also be a conflict with one of Baka's keywords, so try toggling "Ignore Baka" on in the MCM.

 

Please also double check if the MCM lists the keyword as detected.

[FFUps009]

hey not sure if this will clear itself up on its own, but the page where it shows your nudity status says all No's for me even tho I have the right keywords. Do you have any advice on how to see if its actually working?

 

nmv it started working, maybe the mcm was lagging

Edited March 9, 2025 by FFUps009

[NymphoElf]

@DatBaraGuy Please read the guide. It will answer questions like yours.

[tarkan9801]

Hi got problem with this mod - got it in MCM but cannot enter menu. 

[NymphoElf]

On 3/15/2025 at 8:02 AM, tarkan9801 said:

Hi got problem with this mod - got it in MCM but cannot enter menu. 

 

Not this mods fault. You have some other issue.

[GentlemanJimStacey]

I was doing some uninstallation yesterday trying to mess around with mods, and noticed that my saved game got corrupted. So I uninstalled/reinstalled mods until I narrowed down which mod was causing the save game corruption. This one. When it's installed, my save game function fine. When I uninstall it, and leave all other mods still installed... boom, save game corrupted. All the other SL mods seemed to uninstall just fine, and allow me to load the game back up. Any idea why this mod would corrupt my save, when it's no longer installed? And any idea how to fix it? 

[NymphoElf]

5 hours ago, GentlemanJimStacey said:

I was doing some uninstallation yesterday trying to mess around with mods, and noticed that my saved game got corrupted.

 

Whenever you start removing things from a save, corruption can happen. Due to the nature of mods and load orders, it's nearly impossible to understand exactly when it will happen. Some mods cause corruption in certain cases but don't in others. Again, it's nearly impossible to predict.

 

Some people believe ESLs are to blame, some people believe Scripts are to blame, and some people believe that removing mods at all without starting a new game is to blame. There are other theories as well.

 

Perhaps there's bits of truth in each theory, but none of them fully explain the situation, and I've never found a consistent reason for save corruption.

 

Lastly, this is the first time I've heard of AND causing corruption, so I'm very skeptical that AND is truly the problem. Removing a bunch of mods at once is always going to cause problems, whether you see them or not. That's why you need to be careful.

[GentlemanJimStacey]

2 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

Lastly, this is the first time I've heard of AND causing corruption, so I'm very skeptical that AND is truly the problem. Removing a bunch of mods at once is always going to cause problems, whether you see them or not. That's why you need to be careful.

 

Weird. Yeah, I sort of "narrowed it down" by uninstalling a bunch of mods (one by one) and trying to load the save, which would then be "corrupted". I would then reinstall them all and load the same save file and it would work fine. So I just went through and removed mods one by one, and reinstalled one by one (i.e. remove one mod, try the save, then reinstall that mod) until I found which mod cause corruption exclusively by itself, and this mod seemed to cause the issue. Strange. I mean my current save file is pretty new, so not the end of the world if I have to start over and just console-progress the quest line. Haha but would be nice to get it working without doing that. 

[NymphoElf]

7 minutes ago, GentlemanJimStacey said:

So I just went through and removed mods one by one, and reinstalled one by one (i.e. remove one mod, try the save, then reinstall that mod) until I found which mod cause corruption exclusively by itself

 

That's a fair and reasonable method, but unfortunately save corruption issues just aren't that simple. There are still a bunch of other factors that play into it, and it's still not fully understood. This type of problem has happened to numerous other mods since Skyrim originally launched, yet nobody has found a definitive answer or fix for the issue - and there probably never will be.

 

I sympathize with any frustrations you may have, but unfortunately I simply don't have any answers for you - nor is there anything I can think of as far as updates or patches to fix it.

[Chlodwig]

I got a tricky one

Topless Armor versions
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/63851


The Armor is Slot 32  

 

So I want as result,  bottom covered

and topless + Showing boobs

I tried several versions

 

1)AND_ArmorBottom|Armor|Topless Forsworn

AND_ArmorTop_NoCover|Armor|Topless Forsworn

AND_Bra_NoCover|Armor|Topless Forsworn

 

The Keywords are detected but Nudity States are all No

 

2)AND_ArmorBottom|Armor|Topless Forsworn

AND_ArmorTop_NoCover|Armor|Topless Forsworn

 

Keywords are detecteb but all Nudity States are No

3)AND_Bra_NoCover|Armor|Topless Forsworn

 

Again the Keyword is detected but all Nudity States are No

 

 

I got no idea what I'm doing wrong it seems that as soon as I equip something in slot 32 the detection doesn't work