skyrim482 Posted January 1, 2025 Posted January 1, 2025 Hey friend, I quit using osl aroused and went back to the baka version. I know Osl aroused allows you to add the keywords to your currently clothing. Other than using KID is there not another way to do this? Would it be possible to add a page in the mcm of nudity detection that shows what your wearing and you can just check all the keywords that apply from in game? Thanks..
victor-m Posted January 1, 2025 Posted January 1, 2025 Can your mod be installed mid-game? I installed it, received a message about registering a new menu in MSM, but the mod menu never appeared. I restarted the game, then reinstalled the mod, even used fnis, but got no results. I install mods through MO. SLSF I have 0.99, SLSF comments 3.65. Does it matter?
IBAGadget Posted January 1, 2025 Posted January 1, 2025 8 hours ago, skyrim482 said: Other than using KID is there not another way to do this? Would it be possible to add a page in the mcm of nudity detection that shows what your wearing and you can just check all the keywords that apply from in game? Thanks.. You can always load everything up in Xedit, set AND to be a master for all your clothing/armor mods, then add the keywords to the necessary pieces directly Of course, this means that if you ever stop using AND, you have to go through and scrub all those keywords from the files, then clean the no-longer-needed master registry from the armor, and then you can use the armor in your game again. KID is clean, it's editable, and it doesn't care if the armor or even the keyword supplier is there or not. 1
NymphoElf Posted January 2, 2025 Author Posted January 2, 2025 2 hours ago, victor-m said: Can your mod be installed mid-game? I installed it, received a message about registering a new menu in MSM, but the mod menu never appeared. I restarted the game, then reinstalled the mod, even used fnis, but got no results. I install mods through MO. SLSF I have 0.99, SLSF comments 3.65. Does it matter? Are you sure you're posting about this mod? Advanced Nudity Detection doesn't care about SLSF or SLSF Comments 9 hours ago, skyrim482 said: Would it be possible to add a page in the mcm of nudity detection that shows what your wearing and you can just check all the keywords that apply from in game? Is it possible? Yes. Will I do it? No. In order for that to work, I would need to set up a way for you to save the Keyword list for the armor you're wearing and reference that whenever you put on different armor (otherwise you would have to re-apply keywords every time you changed armor). However, you would have to remember to apply the keywords every time you apply an armor the mod hasn't seen yet, which means you'd have a LOT of initial setup while in-game, and that will get incredibly tedious. I could accomplish this with the StorageUtil functions of the PapyrusUtil mod and save a JSON of every armor encountered as you wore them, then add each possible keyword in a list dedicated to that one armor piece, then check if you selected that keyword and save that result. However, this will quickly balloon to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of lines in that JSON file alone. This could be hundreds of megabytes in size, or potentially even gigabytes depending on how many armors you decide to use that for. Additionally, this would effectively require me to write duplicate scripts purely for this JSON system in order to analyze what keywords are being used. All of this would bloat the mod in a way that's simply unnecessary. This is why I recommend Keyword Item Distributor. It more or less accomplishes the same result, but in a much more elegant and user-friendly way. Yes, you need to do some setup/preparation outside of the game, but once you finish it you're effectively done forever unless you want to change something about a specific armor or add a new one. Your recommendation is admittedly effectively the same as KID but with the added downside of bloating this mod. Therefore, just use KID. It's better in the long run.
no_way Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 How does this mod interact with Blush when Aroused? I'm trying to set it up so that AND_Thong armors don't cause my character to blush due to nudity (of the ass presumably), but the ass is still considered "exposed" for Sexy Adventures purposes.
Dorabella Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 3 hours ago, victor-m said: SLSF I have 0.99, SLSF comments 3.65. Does it matter? I used it on LE , with the same mods as yours, and it works perfectly. try a new game 21 minutes ago, no_way said: How does this mod interact with Blush when Aroused?I'm trying to set it up so that AND_Thong armors don't cause my character to blush due to nudity This is the purpose of Keywords applied . If you want to avoid blushing, turn off the nudity option in MCM/BWA , or , reduce the intensity of redness 57 minutes ago, NymphoElf said: Therefore, just use KID. How to use it, Is there a tutorial guide?
NymphoElf Posted January 2, 2025 Author Posted January 2, 2025 1 hour ago, Dorabella said: How to use it, Is there a tutorial guide? The Keyword Item Distributor mod page has a guide in its description, and I have my own. I added a link to this in my main guide just now, so I understand why you didn't find it before. 1
NymphoElf Posted January 2, 2025 Author Posted January 2, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, no_way said: How does this mod interact with Blush when Aroused? I'm trying to set it up so that AND_Thong armors don't cause my character to blush due to nudity (of the ass presumably), but the ass is still considered "exposed" for Sexy Adventures purposes. AND doesn't interact with Blushing When Aroused, or any other mod. Advanced Nudity Detection is entirely self-contained, meaning the other mods must interact with it in some way (by looking at the Factions or Keywords added by AND). I'm also not aware of Sexy Adventures interacting with BWA in any way, so I'm not sure if you'll find any luck asking there either. BWA almost certainly uses the vanilla nudity system, therefore it's extremely likely that if you're not wearing anything in Slot 32 you're considered "exposed". Advanced Nudity Detection does not affect or change the vanilla nudity system. Advanced Nudity Detection uses its own separate system. Unfortunately BWA hasn't been updated in over 8 years, so you're unlikely to get the result you're looking for unless someone else decides to take on the project and add compatibility with this mod. Edited January 2, 2025 by NymphoElf
victor-m Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 (edited) I read the forums. It happens that menus of added mods do not appear in MSM. They advise me to start a new game, but I found a solution: I loaded the save before installing the mod, sacrificing some character progress, and the mod was registered correctly. So sorry to bother you. Now I'm trying to understand how it works. I registered the keywords in the armor myself. I don't use KID. I don’t know how it will assign values over those I have written. In SLSF it is shown that my character is naked, but in AND this is not indicated. Maybe I'll try installing KID and see what happens. Edited January 2, 2025 by victor-m
NymphoElf Posted January 2, 2025 Author Posted January 2, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, victor-m said: In SLSF it is shown that my character is naked, but in AND this is not indicated. SLSF uses the normal Skyrim nudity system (called "vanilla nudity"). Advanced Nudity Detection uses a custom-made system which is separate from Skyrim's normal nudity. You can be considered "naked" by Skyrim, but not naked by Advanced Nudity Detection. Mods that only use Skyrim's nudity will not be affected by Advanced Nudity Detection (for better or worse). 1 hour ago, victor-m said: I registered the keywords in the armor myself. I don't use KID. I don’t know how it will assign values over those I have written. KID simply adds keywords to the items you specify in the ".ini" file you make (if you decide to make a custom one). You can also download and edit KID files for AND in the File Share blog I linked. It's ok if a keyword is on an object more than once. AND only checks if the keyword exists at all on a worn item. It doesn't care how many times it exists on that item. You'll get the same result if the same keyword is applied once or a hundred times. Edited January 2, 2025 by NymphoElf
no_way Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 16 hours ago, NymphoElf said: AND doesn't interact with Blushing When Aroused, or any other mod. Advanced Nudity Detection is entirely self-contained, meaning the other mods must interact with it in some way (by looking at the Factions or Keywords added by AND). I'm also not aware of Sexy Adventures interacting with BWA in any way, so I'm not sure if you'll find any luck asking there either. BWA almost certainly uses the vanilla nudity system, therefore it's extremely likely that if you're not wearing anything in Slot 32 you're considered "exposed". Advanced Nudity Detection does not affect or change the vanilla nudity system. Advanced Nudity Detection uses its own separate system. Unfortunately BWA hasn't been updated in over 8 years, so you're unlikely to get the result you're looking for unless someone else decides to take on the project and add compatibility with this mod. Interesting, cause by playing around with the KID files for tawoba it’s BEHAVING like it’s using the AND keywords. Eg by changing thongs to underwear, character no longer blushes due to ass exposed. Or by adding an ass Curtain to a thong. Looks like jimmying it with the KID will work.
NymphoElf Posted January 2, 2025 Author Posted January 2, 2025 (edited) 27 minutes ago, no_way said: Interesting, cause by playing around with the KID files for tawoba it’s BEHAVING like it’s using the AND keywords. Eg by changing thongs to underwear, character no longer blushes due to ass exposed. Or by adding an ass Curtain to a thong. Looks like jimmying it with the KID will work. Unless there's some patch or Sexy Adventures does more than I thought, I don't know how that could be the case. I can't find any patch files though, and I don't see how it's possible for an 8-year old mod to somehow have compatibility with a mod that didn't exist yet. Regardless, if you're getting the results you want, then great! Edited January 2, 2025 by NymphoElf
Dorabella Posted January 2, 2025 Posted January 2, 2025 I am trying to apply Keywords, following your guide . Spoiler Obicinii DerketoPriestess ------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Armors Keyword = AND_ArmorTop_NoCover|Armor|Derketo Top Keyword = AND_NearlyNaked|Armor|Derketo Top Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover|Armor|Derketo Tabard Keyword = AND_NearlyNaked|Armor|Derketo Tabard Keyword = AND_AssFlashRiskUltra|Armor|Derketo Tabard The log of KeyworditemDistributor , says there are (at least I think ) , but not applied Spoiler [17:13:59:991] po3_KeywordItemDistributor v3.4.0.1 [17:13:59:991] Game version : 1-6-1170-0 [17:14:00:515] ***********************INI************************ [17:14:00:515] 2 matching inis found [17:14:00:515] INI : Data\BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini [17:14:00:515] INI : Data\DerketoPriestess_KID.ini [17:14:00:516] **********************HOOKS*********************** [17:14:00:516] Installed TESObjectBOOK InitItemImpl hook [17:14:00:518] **********************MERGES********************** [17:14:00:518] Failed to dispatch message to MergeMapper [17:14:00:518] INFO - MergeMapper not detected [17:14:27:477] **********************LOOKUP********************** [17:14:27:477] Armor [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorArmlets [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorChoker [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorBelt [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorHat [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorStockings [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorLantern [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorPanties [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorFacemask [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_ArmorTop_NoCover [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_NearlyNaked [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_AssFlashRiskUltra [17:14:27:478] Sorting keywords... [17:14:27:478] Sorted keywords: [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorArmlets [KYWD:FF000E43] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorChoker [KYWD:FF000E44] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorBelt [KYWD:FF000E45] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorHat [KYWD:FF000E46] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorStockings [KYWD:FF000E47] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorLantern [KYWD:FF000E48] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorPanties [KYWD:FF000E49] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorFacemask [KYWD:FF000E4A] [17:14:27:478] AND_ArmorTop_NoCover [KYWD:FE00883B] [17:14:27:478] AND_NearlyNaked [KYWD:FE008825] [17:14:27:478] AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover [KYWD:FE00883C] [17:14:27:478] AND_AssFlashRiskUltra [KYWD:FE00881C] [17:14:27:478] ********************PROCESSING******************** [17:14:27:478] Adding 40/40 keywords to armors [17:14:27:478] Form lookup took 1052μs / 1ms [17:14:27:488] **********************RESULT********************** [17:14:27:488] Armor [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorArmlets [0xFF000E43] added to 6/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorChoker [0xFF000E44] added to 1/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorBelt [0xFF000E45] added to 5/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorHat [0xFF000E46] added to 5/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorStockings [0xFF000E47] added to 1/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorLantern [0xFF000E48] added to 1/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorPanties [0xFF000E49] added to 10/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorFacemask [0xFF000E4A] added to 6/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_ArmorTop_NoCover [0x83B~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_NearlyNaked [0x825~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover [0x83C~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_AssFlashRiskUltra [0x81C~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] **********************STATS*********************** [17:14:27:488] Distribution took 10133μs / 10ms I'm definitely doing something wrong/forgetting something. 🤪. Armor is Obi's Derketo Priestess Outfit - BHUNP UBE 3BA , just to make logical sense of the keywords , specifically for the Top
IBAGadget Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dorabella said: I am trying to apply Keywords, following your guide . Hide contents Obicinii DerketoPriestess ------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Armors Keyword = AND_ArmorTop_NoCover|Armor|Derketo Top Keyword = AND_NearlyNaked|Armor|Derketo Top Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover|Armor|Derketo Tabard Keyword = AND_NearlyNaked|Armor|Derketo Tabard Keyword = AND_AssFlashRiskUltra|Armor|Derketo Tabard The log of KeyworditemDistributor , says there are (at least I think ) , but not applied Hide contents [17:13:59:991] po3_KeywordItemDistributor v3.4.0.1 [17:13:59:991] Game version : 1-6-1170-0 [17:14:00:515] ***********************INI************************ [17:14:00:515] 2 matching inis found [17:14:00:515] INI : Data\BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini [17:14:00:515] INI : Data\DerketoPriestess_KID.ini [17:14:00:516] **********************HOOKS*********************** [17:14:00:516] Installed TESObjectBOOK InitItemImpl hook [17:14:00:518] **********************MERGES********************** [17:14:00:518] Failed to dispatch message to MergeMapper [17:14:00:518] INFO - MergeMapper not detected [17:14:27:477] **********************LOOKUP********************** [17:14:27:477] Armor [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorArmlets [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorChoker [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorBelt [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorHat [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorStockings [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorLantern [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorPanties [17:14:27:477] [BOOBIES_Magecore_KID.ini] BoobiesArmorFacemask [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_ArmorTop_NoCover [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_NearlyNaked [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover [17:14:27:477] [DerketoPriestess_KID.ini] AND_AssFlashRiskUltra [17:14:27:478] Sorting keywords... [17:14:27:478] Sorted keywords: [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorArmlets [KYWD:FF000E43] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorChoker [KYWD:FF000E44] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorBelt [KYWD:FF000E45] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorHat [KYWD:FF000E46] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorStockings [KYWD:FF000E47] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorLantern [KYWD:FF000E48] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorPanties [KYWD:FF000E49] [17:14:27:478] BoobiesArmorFacemask [KYWD:FF000E4A] [17:14:27:478] AND_ArmorTop_NoCover [KYWD:FE00883B] [17:14:27:478] AND_NearlyNaked [KYWD:FE008825] [17:14:27:478] AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover [KYWD:FE00883C] [17:14:27:478] AND_AssFlashRiskUltra [KYWD:FE00881C] [17:14:27:478] ********************PROCESSING******************** [17:14:27:478] Adding 40/40 keywords to armors [17:14:27:478] Form lookup took 1052μs / 1ms [17:14:27:488] **********************RESULT********************** [17:14:27:488] Armor [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorArmlets [0xFF000E43] added to 6/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorChoker [0xFF000E44] added to 1/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorBelt [0xFF000E45] added to 5/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorHat [0xFF000E46] added to 5/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorStockings [0xFF000E47] added to 1/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorLantern [0xFF000E48] added to 1/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorPanties [0xFF000E49] added to 10/5062 [17:14:27:488] BoobiesArmorFacemask [0xFF000E4A] added to 6/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_ArmorTop_NoCover [0x83B~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_NearlyNaked [0x825~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_ArmorBottom_NoCover [0x83C~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] AND_AssFlashRiskUltra [0x81C~Advanced Nudity Detection.esp] added to 0/5062 [17:14:27:488] **********************STATS*********************** [17:14:27:488] Distribution took 10133μs / 10ms I'm definitely doing something wrong/forgetting something. 🤪. Armor is Obi's Derketo Priestess Outfit - BHUNP UBE 3BA , just to make logical sense of the keywords , specifically for the Top two things I notice: 1. Your .ini file name for the AND keywords is incorrect. It should be AND_DerketoPriestess_KID.ini 2. Did you use the Editor Names from XEdit for the Derketo Priestess armor pieces? I don't have Derketo Priestess installed, so I can't check the names myself. You cannot use the item names from Bodyslide edit: Ok, so I have Derketo Priestess installed and built now, and your KID .ini file is definitely incorrect. Here are the names for the armor pieces that KID needs according to XEdit: Derketo Priestess Boots Derketo Priestess Top Derketo Priestess Waist Derketo Priestess Arms personally, I wouldn't use ArmorTop or ArmorBottom keywords with this outfit - Like the Caress of Venus, or Sexy Sorceress 2 outfits, I would use the Curtain keywords with associated FlashRisk Edited January 3, 2025 by IBAGadget new information
Dorabella Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 16 minutes ago, IBAGadget said: 1. Your .ini file name for the AND keywords is incorrect. It should be AND_DerketoPriestess_KID.ini Correcting 17 minutes ago, IBAGadget said: 2. Did you use the Editor Names from XEdit for the Derketo Priestess armor pieces? I don't have Derketo Priestess installed, so I can't check the names myself. You cannot use the item names from Bodyslide I used the name that identifies the nif in the meshes Spoiler
IBAGadget Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Dorabella said: I used the name that identifies the nif in the meshes Reveal hidden contents yah, that's wrong. You need to use the Editor Name from XEdit - that's the actual name of the armor piece - the nif name can be totally different. I'm working on making a follower right now, and the Editor Name for her hair is SolangeKSHair. The name of the .nif is solangehair a nif doesn't have an editor id for KID to attach the keyword to - the Editor Name does Edited January 3, 2025 by IBAGadget
Dorabella Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 13 minutes ago, IBAGadget said: yah, that's wrong. Thank's . Now it works. I must have missed that the name, must be the one listed in the ESP 😁 Spoiler
IBAGadget Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 1 hour ago, Dorabella said: Thank's . Now it works. I must have missed that the name, must be the one listed in the ESP 😁 Reveal hidden contents yep. this is why outfits that have a lot of color options have such big KID files - every color option for a piece is a different Editor Name and has to be put in the file 1
NymphoElf Posted January 3, 2025 Author Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) @IBAGadget Dorabella's ini file name was fine. It was just the armor names that were wrong. I merely recommend putting "AND_" in front of the file name for easier identification. The only true hard requirement is "_KID" at the end. Theoretically, you can have a file just called "_KID.ini" and stuff it with everything you want, but that would be a mess to edit. Edited January 3, 2025 by NymphoElf
Dorabella Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 3 hours ago, NymphoElf said: Dorabella's ini file name was fine. I have one that is named BOOBS_MAGECORE_KID.ini. , in fact I lose it . I will use AND identification , to find it quickly . The compilation process, does it also work with SAR Baka edition Keywords?
NymphoElf Posted January 3, 2025 Author Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dorabella said: does it also work with SAR Baka edition Keywords? Yes. It works with all keywords your game has installed. If KID can't find the keyword for some reason, it will simply skip it. That's part of what makes KID so good. It's very safe to use and is effectively compatible with every mod in existence. Edited January 3, 2025 by NymphoElf 1
no_way Posted January 3, 2025 Posted January 3, 2025 18 hours ago, NymphoElf said: Unless there's some patch or Sexy Adventures does more than I thought, I don't know how that could be the case. I can't find any patch files though, and I don't see how it's possible for an 8-year old mod to somehow have compatibility with a mod that didn't exist yet. Regardless, if you're getting the results you want, then great! Shit NM its not working very odd. Even showing bra triggers embarassment, but that occupies slot 32. I don't get it.
NymphoElf Posted January 3, 2025 Author Posted January 3, 2025 (edited) 32 minutes ago, no_way said: Shit NM its not working very odd. Even showing bra triggers embarassment, but that occupies slot 32. I don't get it. I dug into BWA's code. It's quite the mess, but if I understand the code correctly, it's using the Sexlab Aroused naked faction, so whatever Sexlab Aroused thinks you are, that's what Blush When Aroused is going to go off of. You're not going to get it to work with Advanced Nudity Detection. Again, Blush When Aroused is not designed to use Advanced Nudity Detection. They're using/looking at different things. Edited January 3, 2025 by NymphoElf
StrayHALO_MAN Posted January 4, 2025 Posted January 4, 2025 Even when I'm totally dressed and the keywords say I'm not showing anything people give me naked comments. Is there a way to make them only do that if my character is exposed?
NymphoElf Posted January 4, 2025 Author Posted January 4, 2025 21 minutes ago, StrayHALO_MAN said: Even when I'm totally dressed and the keywords say I'm not showing anything people give me naked comments. Is there a way to make them only do that if my character is exposed? Are they the vanilla naked comments or is it from another mod? 1
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