Advanced Nudity Detection

[Sokalee]

Sorry if this has been asked before but I couldn't find it in the thread or any documentation. Is there a way to reset a follower's modesty? For some reason my followers are really high (4 to 6) even though I haven't had them very long. I should add reset modesty in the MCM only seems to reset my character.

Edited June 27, 2025 by Sokalee

[NymphoElf]

3 hours ago, Sokalee said:

I couldn't find it in the thread or any documentation

Read the guide (again)

[Sokalee]

Oh! I have no idea how I missed that, so its tied to confidence. It'll probably be best to add specific conditions instead of messing with confidence, thanks!

[NymphoElf]

7 minutes ago, Sokalee said:

its tied to confidence

 

Yes. It gets whatever the NPC's confidence value is and assigns a modesty rank based on what it finds. Higher confidence means higher acceptance of showing skin.

 

This will be more refined/nuanced in the future.

Edited June 27, 2025 by NymphoElf

[GobboCake]

What if youre using some kind of outfit manager?

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, GobboCake said:

What if youre using some kind of outfit manager?

 

What does the outfit manager do?

[GobboCake]

6 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

 

What does the outfit manager do?

It just lets you have whatever look you want without actually wearing the armour, so if you wanted the stats you find in your playthrough but dont want to change your look. Its on nexusmods - Skyrim Outfit Manager

[NymphoElf]

Just now, GobboCake said:

It just lets you have whatever look you want without actually wearing the armour, so if you wanted the stats you find in your playthrough but dont want to change your look. Its on nexusmods - Skyrim Outfit Manager

 

I'm not sure if you're using "Outfit Manager" or "Simple Outfit Manager" because "SKYRIM Outfit Manager" doesn't exist.

 

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Regardless, it depends on how they actually accomplish their goal, because AND needs to analyze the keywords on your actually worn items.

 

If the visual armor is actually what's physically equipped according to the game, but inherits the stats of a different armor, then the keywords of the visible armor should work properly because that's what's "worn".

 

However, if the visual armor is NOT what's physically equipped according to the game then it won't work (and a patch is unlikely to be possible in this case).

[you1995]

Sorry to bother guys, but I can't seem to find out why it does not load in the MCM menu.

[GobboCake]

On 6/28/2025 at 10:50 PM, NymphoElf said:

 

I'm not sure if you're using "Outfit Manager" or "Simple Outfit Manager" because "SKYRIM Outfit Manager" doesn't exist.

 

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Regardless, it depends on how they actually accomplish their goal, because AND needs to analyze the keywords on your actually worn items.

 

If the visual armor is actually what's physically equipped according to the game, but inherits the stats of a different armor, then the keywords of the visible armor should work properly because that's what's "worn".

 

However, if the visual armor is NOT what's physically equipped according to the game then it won't work (and a patch is unlikely to be possible in this case).

Ok thanks -> heres the mod if youre interested in looking https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42162

[NymphoElf]

2 hours ago, GobboCake said:

Ok thanks -> heres the mod if youre interested in looking https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42162

 

Just skimming the description, I can already tell that your nudity status will be based on the armor you're getting the stats from. Not what the armor looks like.

 

It's impossible to make a patch for this because there's no way to tell what your armor is or isn't covering because any armor could look like anything at any random moment.

Edited July 2, 2025 by NymphoElf

[wolfeman77346]

Noticed this quote from the change logs on SLO Aroused NG's mod page: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/151502?tab=logs

• Version 3.1.0

  • SLP+ integration. Advanced nudity support .New translations. bugfixes and optimisations

   

  Is this AND support? If so, Kudos..

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, wolfeman77346 said:

Noticed this quote from the change logs on SLO Aroused NG's mod page: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/151502?tab=logs

• Version 3.1.0

  • SLP+ integration. Advanced nudity support .New translations. bugfixes and optimisations

   

  Is this AND support? If so, Kudos..

 

I would assume so. I'm not aware of any other mods going by "Advanced Nudity" in any capacity

[akerot]

hi, I'm having a bit of an issue. I'm using vanilla armor with a male character (or female) but it doesn't seem to recognize the keywords. I use sexy adventures and I get a bounty for being naked even though I'm wearing vanilla armor. =( Any thoughts? Thnk you

[IBAGadget]

6 hours ago, akerot said:

hi, I'm having a bit of an issue. I'm using vanilla armor with a male character (or female) but it doesn't seem to recognize the keywords. I use sexy adventures and I get a bounty for being naked even though I'm wearing vanilla armor. =( Any thoughts? Thnk you

1. What Keywords are you applying to the armor?

2. How are you applying the keywords to the armor?

3. Are Keywords working correctly for other clothing/armor items (ie: mod added)

4. Do you have Sexy Adventures toggled to use AND for nudity detection? By default it does not (you need to select it in the MCM on the Integrations tab)

 

Edited July 4, 2025 by IBAGadget

[akerot]

On 7/4/2025 at 4:37 PM, IBAGadget said:

1. What Keywords are you applying to the armor?

2. How are you applying the keywords to the armor?

3. Are Keywords working correctly for other clothing/armor items (ie: mod added)

4. Do you have Sexy Adventures toggled to use AND for nudity detection? By default it does not (you need to select it in the MCM on the Integrations tab)

 

Hey, thank you for your reply. Since I'm using mainly vanilla armors i didnt add any keyword yet as I thought it wasnt required. 
I didnt know that I had to manually toggle AND in sexy adventures, that tweak seem to have fixed my issue, thank you very very much!!

Have a nice day.

[woland_faust]

On 7/4/2025 at 5:28 PM, akerot said:

hi, I'm having a bit of an issue. I'm using vanilla armor with a male character (or female) but it doesn't seem to recognize the keywords. I use sexy adventures and I get a bounty for being naked even though I'm wearing vanilla armor. =( Any thoughts? Thnk you

 

On that note, how do I add keywords to all vanilla armors?

I already have an ini file that I made for it but I have no idea where to place it

AND_VanillaOutfits_KID.ini.zip

[IBAGadget]

5 minutes ago, woland_faust said:

 

On that note, how do I add keywords to all vanilla armors?

I already have an ini file that I made for it but I have no idea where to place it

AND_VanillaOutfits_KID.ini.zip 1.37 kB · 0 downloads

Just drop the .ini file in your Skyrim/Data folder

[woland_faust]

18 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

Just drop the .ini file in your Skyrim/Data folder

Unfortunately that doesn't do the job and I can't tell if it's because of wrong placing or because I did a shitty job writing it...

 

I can add keyword manually through OSL though, so I can still use the mod, just need to add the stuff when I come across an armor

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, woland_faust said:

Unfortunately that doesn't do the job and I can't tell if it's because of wrong placing or because I did a shitty job writing it...

 

I can add keyword manually through OSL though, so I can still use the mod, just need to add the stuff when I come across an armor

 

Make sure you installed Keyword Item Distributor and all of its requirements properly. Then make an experimental KID and a throwaway save file to test your KID file to ensure you made it correctly (such as adding keywords to one or two items). Once you have the first few items correctly configured the rest become more or less copy and paste.

 

Also, just to make sure you understand, Vanilla armor isn't supposed to have any keywords unless they've been replaced by skimpy versions. So unless every single item is skimpy, you don't need to give keywords to every vanilla item.

Edited July 9, 2025 by NymphoElf

[woland_faust]

10 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Make sure you installed Keyword Item Distributor and all of its requirements properly. Then make an experimental KID and a throwaway save file to test your KID file to ensure you made it correctly (such as adding keywords to one or two items). Once you have the first few items correctly configured the rest become more or less copy and paste.

 

Also, just to make sure you understand, Vanilla armor isn't supposed to have any keywords unless they've been replaced by skimpy versions. So unless every single item is skimpy, you don't need to give keywords to every vanilla item.

 

I used Body Replacer, so indeed every outfit is skimpy

Edited July 9, 2025 by woland_faust

[IBAGadget]

I just had a look at your KID file that you posted, and I have to say that I have never seen a KID file that looked like that. I'm not sure what all the command lines are for at the start of the file (all the lines that are not commented out with the ';' symbol), but I'm sure there is someone here who is far more knowledgable about these things.

 

Spoiler

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\cocoatextscaling0\cocoaplatform0{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;}
{\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;}
{\*\expandedcolortbl;;}
\paperw11900\paperh16840\margl1440\margr1440\vieww11520\viewh8400\viewkind0
\pard\tx720\tx1440\tx2160\tx2880\tx3600\tx4320\tx5040\tx5760\tx6480\tx7200\tx7920\tx8640\pardirnatural\partightenfactor0

\f0\fs24 \cf0 ; Advanced Nudity Detection - Vanilla Skyrim + DLC Outfits (Armor + Clothing)\
\
; --- SKYRIM.ESM ---\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Armor|*|Skyrim.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Armor|*|Skyrim.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Armor|*|Skyrim.esm\
\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Clothing|*|Skyrim.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Clothing|*|Skyrim.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Clothing|*|Skyrim.esm\
\
; --- UPDATE.ESM ---\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Armor|*|Update.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Armor|*|Update.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Armor|*|Update.esm\
\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Clothing|*|Update.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Clothing|*|Update.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Clothing|*|Update.esm\
\
; --- DAWNGUARD.ESM ---\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Armor|*|Dawnguard.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Armor|*|Dawnguard.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Armor|*|Dawnguard.esm\
\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Clothing|*|Dawnguard.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Clothing|*|Dawnguard.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Clothing|*|Dawnguard.esm\
\
; --- HEARTHFIRES.ESM ---\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Armor|*|HearthFires.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Armor|*|HearthFires.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Armor|*|HearthFires.esm\
\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Clothing|*|HearthFires.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Clothing|*|HearthFires.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Clothing|*|HearthFires.esm\
\
; --- DRAGONBORN.ESM ---\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Armor|*|Dragonborn.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Armor|*|Dragonborn.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Armor|*|Dragonborn.esm\
\
Keyword = AND_ArmorTop|Clothing|*|Dragonborn.esm\
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottom|Clothing|*|Dragonborn.esm\
Keyword = AND_Hotpants|Clothing|*|Dragonborn.esm}

Here's a small sample of one of my KID files, covering C5Kev's Lacey Ranger Outfit:

 

;Ignore
Keyword = AND_Ignore|Armor|C5Kev's Lacey Ranger Scarf,C5Kev's Lacey Ranger Bracers,C5Kev's Lacey Ranger Pauldrons

;Top
Keyword = AND_ArmorTopT|Armor|C5Kev's Lacey Ranger Top

;Bottom
Keyword = AND_Underwear|Armor|C5Kev's Lacey Ranger Panty
Keyword = AND_ArmorBottomT|Armor|C5Kev's Lacey Ranger Pants

 

 

[NymphoElf]

@woland_faust  I don't recommend putting two keywords belonging to the same category (top/bottom/bra/etc) on an item. It's redundant and/or won't give you the results you want.

 

ArmorBottom and Hotpants are in the same category. ArmorBottom will override Hotpants because ArmorBottom is more modest (covers more) than Hotpants.

 

Also, giving all vanilla armor the ArmorTop and ArmorBottom keywords (as it seems you're trying to do in your KID file) will simply make them act like vanilla items anyways.

 

Please read these to get a better understanding of how to use the keywords and make a proper KID file for AND:

 

 

Edited July 9, 2025 by NymphoElf

[icdtdave]

I have a couple of questions.  I'd been having some trouble getting dynamic modesty to work/make sense to me.  That "How AND works" should probably be linked on the front page.  I read it over and I saw that going "no cover" bra or panties in the KID setup would help me with the outfit I was testing on, since those still count as being one more "layer" of nudity.  Which brings me to dynamic modesty.  I'm not a fan of the progression chart to go up ranks.  Right now it kinda seems like I need to write down or memorize that chart because it requires very specific conditions, for example from level 1 to 2 is only fulfilled by showing underwear.  Seems pretty restrictive to not count more extreme outfits toward your progression.  Could we get a hierarchy in those ranks?  Not sure the best way to implement, but maybe make level 1 and 2 advance by any "outer nudity" (eg bra or panties counts for both) layers or more advanced ones if present.  I hope this makes sense.

 

Edit: Do the non-body part specific keywords do anything right now?  Like Nearly Naked and Effectively Naked?

Edited July 9, 2025 by icdtdave
additional question

[NymphoElf]

2 hours ago, icdtdave said:

That "How AND works" should probably be linked on the front page.

 

It is... The blog containing the article is linked...

 

2 hours ago, icdtdave said:

I'm not a fan of the progression chart to go up ranks.  Right now it kinda seems like I need to write down or memorize that chart because it requires very specific conditions, for example from level 1 to 2 is only fulfilled by showing underwear.  Seems pretty restrictive to not count more extreme outfits toward your progression.  Could we get a hierarchy in those ranks?  Not sure the best way to implement, but maybe make level 1 and 2 advance by any "outer nudity" (eg bra or panties counts for both) layers or more advanced ones if present.  I hope this makes sense.

 

I understand. I took a more restrictive approach in order to prevent "runaway" immodesty, which would have defeated the purpose of the feature. I will look into alternatives, but I don't want you to be able to just strip naked and gain immodesty right away either. It's supposed to be more of a "frog in boiling water" approach.

 

  

2 hours ago, icdtdave said:

Edit: Do the non-body part specific keywords do anything right now?  Like Nearly Naked and Effectively Naked?

 

Yes. Read the guides.

Edited July 9, 2025 by NymphoElf