Sebastian Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Hmm, odd situation. I don't see a mod which could conflict with that scene. Are you sure you have unequipped everything even weapons? I unequipped weapons, arrows, clothing (Boots and shirt) and it still happens. I actually went into the quest with weapons unequipped and stripped the last clothing when requested to do so.
aqqh Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 DDs should be in order assets>integration>expansion>devious deviants. Just saying because theres no way that would be the reason of your issues with APPS - well unless it couses a mess that lags your papyrus.
Sebastian Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Well I have turned on logging for crashes and the logs for SKSE, and neither lists any errors Just wish mods for Skyrim could be a bit more like mods for Minecraft where you can get a detailed log to study what went haywire.
BonMage32 Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 After i take the quest,i just waiting for time? How i should do to proceed the quest? After the quest started and you have equipped the clothes and the boots you can go and talk to patrons which are sitting. They then will tell you what they want. Umm... What should i do If they don't want me right now?
Sebastian Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 After i take the quest,i just waiting for time? How i should do to proceed the quest? After the quest started and you have equipped the clothes and the boots you can go and talk to patrons which are sitting. They then will tell you what they want. Umm... What should i do If they don't want me right now? That is easy, just hang around and try again 5-10 minutes later. It is best to go through that part of the quest when the tavern is busy (around evening hours) as you will have more than just 2 customers to serve. Some good news, I guess the developer uses Fuz De Roh or whatever the name of the dialog slowdown utility is, I decided to download it on a whim for another mod and now the scenes work, so I suggest it be added to the "requirements" section, otherwise the dialogues zoom by so fast that the scripts can't keep up and it locks up appearently.
starrin Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Still got stuck after the whore test is complete. I think the two errors in the Papyrus is not the issue, but I can't find anything else.
aqqh Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Umm... What should i do If they don't want me right now? Wait and ask again later. Bring a follower and ask him/her to wait inside the inn. You will have one additional customer. Some good news, I guess the developer uses Fuz De Roh or whatever the name of the dialog slowdown utility is, I decided to download it on a whim for another mod and now the scenes work, so I suggest it be added to the "requirements" section, otherwise the dialogues zoom by so fast that the scripts can't keep up and it locks up appearently. Fuz ro dah is needed, or at least recommended, by every single mod that adds custom dialogs in any form. Thats why moders take it as a given that ppl already have it. Still got stuck after the whore test is complete. I think the two errors in the Papyrus is not the issue, but I can't find anything else. If you mean the scene with 2 bondage chicks upstairs then thats the end of this version for now.
Sebastian Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Some good news, I guess the developer uses Fuz De Roh or whatever the name of the dialog slowdown utility is, I decided to download it on a whim for another mod and now the scenes work, so I suggest it be added to the "requirements" section, otherwise the dialogues zoom by so fast that the scripts can't keep up and it locks up appearently. Fuz ro dah is needed, or at least recommended, by every single mod that adds custom dialogs in any form. Thats why moders take it as a given that ppl already have it. Perhaps for seasoned veterans, but on a first install you go by dependencies only, and you only get those, if it isn't mentioned... Stuff like this happens. So until there is a Linux like repository for fetching these mods it should be added to the list.
Heromaster Posted May 19, 2014 Author Posted May 19, 2014 Well, they kinda are. It is listed in the box "File Information" on the right side of the download page. It just happened that I always forgot to update the requirement list in the description page.
starrin Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Still got stuck after the whore test is complete. I think the two errors in the Papyrus is not the issue, but I can't find anything else. If you mean the scene with 2 bondage chicks upstairs then thats the end of this version for now. So it is normal that this mod can not go any further after that point? I see...
Heromaster Posted May 19, 2014 Author Posted May 19, 2014 Yes, it ends there. Originally I wanted to continue from there on but then some unexpected things happened. SexLab had a huge update, PapyrusUtil came out and offered alot of possibilities and so on. So I decided to rework the whole mod from scratch and discussed with CG! how we continue to it. Not because APPS is full of bugs or something but the code slowly turned into a huge mess and wasn't really mantain-friendly. So we are now working on a framework which does alot in the background and handles most things. When it's done it allows me to focus on APPS and creating new quests, scenes and so on. It is a slow process because we don't rush things and we want to create something which is immersive. APPS was planned to be rich on choices from the get go. Every action in this mod has a reaction. So if the people start calling you the Dragonwhore, you had something done which caused them to tell you that. And nobody will gift you something for free, if you want to earn something you have to work for it That also means for the amount of choices we have to take care that everything is as plausible as possible. And that takes time. We recently got with Antono a great addition to our team and aqqh, which developed some animations for us. Kudos to both of you
aqqh Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Point is - progress for now may seem slow to some people. But once that framework would be up and running adding new playable content would be both easier and faster. And it would allow to add many things that you haven't seen in Skyrim before. So just be patient and wait. I'm absolutely sure it would be worth it
Mimirue17 Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 I really like this mod so far and will be waiting for all the work you seem to be doing to continue it. for now I would like to try all the options with the 2 gals upstairs to 'test' my character. I am at stage 10 currently. I see the other console codes for the other tests but cant figure out how to get them triggered so I can see them done. Kind of new at using the console commands with quests so sorry if the question seems silly. Love their outfits btw, anyway you can offer that as a light armor with leather stats? thanks. One last thing, I know you said the 2 gals are off the bards faction but they still stop and clap for him while upstairs. Maybe will go and just disable that guy, its gets annoying while running shifts in the bar after a few hours, hehe.
walrusii Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I accidentally left the tavern and failed the mission. Is there any way to restart it?
germanicus Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I accidentally left the tavern and failed the mission. Is there any way to restart it? But if you saved your game before you left tavern, you are still active. Just load the previous save. (if you have one)
brothadesmund Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 For some reason there's no dialogue with Hulda after installing this, how do I start the quest? I have the required mods and even the MCM entry showed up.
Heromaster Posted May 22, 2014 Author Posted May 22, 2014 Enter and reenter the Bannered Mare. Then the mod should start, if you have installed it while you were already in the Bannered Mare.
brothadesmund Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Didn't work, it's at the bottom of my load order too, I'm not sure what's going on. Edit: JK, worked on my other save file. But for some reason I'm missing dialogue after starting tavern jobs from Hulda, I put on the clothes she gives me but there's no dialogue options with anyone else in the Bannered Mare to serve drinks or etc.
DocClox Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Just trying this now and I have to say, it's shaping up nicely. This could be a good one One suggestion: look at disabling the bard scenes where everyone dances. Otherwise you can dash upstairs with a client only to have them run back downstairs and dance for a couple of minutes. Better still, if the timing is wrong when the PC dances, her customer can run off to listen to Mikeal and she ends up frozen in place until the song finishes and then dancing for empty air. I ended up console-killing the bard in a fit of frustration. (Admittedly, I never much liked him). The other thing I'd suggest is catching it when people tab out of a dialogue when taking an order. I sometimes do it by force of habit and then when I get to hulda I don't have an order to give her. (Not a biggie, since it seems I can carry on working, but worth fixing if you get a moment). Other than that, really nice work.
CGi Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Bards will be covered in the next version, as there's a exclusion faction for NPCs that should not react to them. Problem solved. Sadly this was not taken into account in the available preview mod ... but at least it's solved for the upcoming version. ^^
Karma199696 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 hi... i have a problem... i started a new game with this mod installe but it doesn't seem to be working in my game... i've been playing for some 18 Skyrim days but nothing unusual happened until now... i tried the side quest with Hulda, talked to her, got the job, the robe and the book... then nothing. i stayed in the inn several hour and besides getting some 15 septims every hour or so nothing else happened... after maybe 5-7 hours i decided i got bored enough and told Hulda that was all for that day... she checked my results, told me i hadn't served a single customer and the game notified my i had failed the quest... so my questions are ? in the side quest, i do i serve the customers ? they didn't ask me for anything and if i tried to talk to them i had no new dialog entry... and about this mod main quest... is there anything i should do to have it started ? am i missing something ? or might be a problem of load order or anything else that prevents the mod from working ? i cheked several times the requirments and conflict listed in the first page... i have all the needed mods and none of the conflicting ones... so ? what else might it be ? thanks.
Heromaster Posted May 24, 2014 Author Posted May 24, 2014 Did you have equipped the clothes she has given you?
Karma199696 Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Did you have equipped the clothes she has given you? yes i did... ifr it only included clothes... if it included also shoes or other i might have missed them and didn't equipped anything else beides the robe itself... anyway i'm still playing, waithing for the other quest to start but up to now, nothing happened...
Heromaster Posted May 24, 2014 Author Posted May 24, 2014 She gives you boots also which you need to equip too. Then you can serve the customers
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