(WiP) A prostitution and player slavery mod 0.10.2c

[CGi]

wenn ihr hilfe möchtet würde ich mit übersetzen, habe nur wenig ahnung vom creationkit, aber txt dateien oder sowas wären kein problem 

There will be a text file, but only for the ModConfiguration menu, all of the actual gameplay stuff will be inside a ESM and ESP, so you'll need software like TESVTranslator (wich can be used for plugin and mcm translation), the CK or even TES5Edit to translate those ... or any other software that can do the job and that you may prefer.

The question is: To which language would you translate the mod? English, russian, polish, spanish and german is already covered.

 

Thanks. I understand what you mean about all the work it's taking to complete the navmesh, even without any experience with it. That jpg you attached blew me away when I opened it. I came to realize that you guys don't intend to do quick updates regularly.

What do you mean with "quick updates"?

Updates to the published mod or posting update news about the mods development?

[Storms of Superior]

 

 

wenn ihr hilfe möchtet würde ich mit übersetzen, habe nur wenig ahnung vom creationkit, aber txt dateien oder sowas wären kein problem

There will be a text file, but only for the ModConfiguration menu, all of the actual gameplay stuff will be inside a ESM and ESP, so you'll need software like TESVTranslator (wich can be used for plugin and mcm translation), the CK or even TES5Edit to translate those ... or any other software that can do the job and that you may prefer.

The question is: To which language would you translate the mod? English, russian, polish, spanish and german is already covered.

Thanks. I understand what you mean about all the work it's taking to complete the navmesh, even without any experience with it. That jpg you attached blew me away when I opened it. I came to realize that you guys don't intend to do quick updates regularly.

What do you mean with "quick updates"?

Updates to the published mod or posting update news about the mods development?

I mean posting quick fixes and small updates often. I'm glad to see this project handled with higher quality in mind than some authors offer.

[CGi]

As the final mod will be split into 2 parts (Framework [ESM] and the actual playable content [ESP]), updates should not take to long ... depending on how severe the error/glitch is ofc.

[aqqh]

Issue with this one is they posted a demo beased on what skyrim had to offer back then. Which had its limits. And since they wanted to load this mod with options which are currently not supported by skyrim or any other mod they decided to expand game mechanics themselves.

Guess it started with idea of replacing vanila skyrim relationship system - which is lame - with something much more sophisticated.

Then even more ideas emerged.

 

So they have to do alot of codework.

 

Thats why upcomming test mod wont be just more content to that last year version of APPS. That would be mainly to test how that brand new features work.

When it would work fine adding new playable story content would go way faster.

[Storms of Superior]

Some of the things you guys say is what I'm already thinking, although I don't have the experience with molding to put it in such detailed terms.

 

Anyway, I appreciate your hard work.

[CGi]

aqqh pretty much nailed it - not much else to say.

[janoorn]

 

wenn ihr hilfe möchtet würde ich mit übersetzen, habe nur wenig ahnung vom creationkit, aber txt dateien oder sowas wären kein problem 

There will be a text file, but only for the ModConfiguration menu, all of the actual gameplay stuff will be inside a ESM and ESP, so you'll need software like TESVTranslator (wich can be used for plugin and mcm translation), the CK or even TES5Edit to translate those ... or any other software that can do the job and that you may prefer.

The question is: To which language would you translate the mod? English, russian, polish, spanish and german is already covered.

 

Thanks. I understand what you mean about all the work it's taking to complete the navmesh, even without any experience with it. That jpg you attached blew me away when I opened it. I came to realize that you guys don't intend to do quick updates regularly.

What do you mean with "quick updates"?

Updates to the published mod or posting update news about the mods development?

 

if you have english already covered then i probably cant help (except if you want latin ;D;D) 

[E_Nigma]

drunken rant

Why must every mod contain the devious crap? there is plenty of content for people into the whole woman hate/submission/humiliation/slavery thing. Very few mods for poeple who just want to see an adult themed mod for peopel with mature tastes yet it seems like every mod with the the potential to become the next dark investigations just turns into another * ah snap player get raped and humilated mod*   when i first saw the slave town mod i nearly shit my pants I thought OH SHIT IT'S FINALLY HERE and adult themed slavery mod that isnt just do x get raped and thats exactly what it turned out being i'll admit if had half a fifth of jack but seriously, is this the fate of all adult mods? Rape with bits of story in between? it just seems like every a mod with potential comes around it ends up becoming another do x get fucked mod and the truly great mods like dark investigations never truly see the light of day. As I mentioned before im very drunk so I may not have completely understood the poll but as soon as I see the word "devious" I get a very predictable very japanese hentai menga storyline in  my head where its just do x fuck do x fuck procedural fuck mod I'm not trying to criticize the mod but I am asking a question I am geniounely curios about. I understand that as someone who doesnt make mods I dont really have a standing but as a consumer I feel like I have the right to ask a serious question

 

[aqqh]

Well i guess that sexual slavery without sex is like vodka without alcohol...

 

And please do not judge every single adult mod of just being an rape fest because thats nearly insulting for authors of some mods. OFC there are mods like that but there are also those story oriented, full of sex story but still quite interesting story.

 

As of Slave town do not judge it so early because its author clearly said that there is so much rape because he wanted to learn himself how to use sexlab. It would be much different in later versions.

[Nomenklacher]

drunken rant

Why must every mod contain the devious crap? there is plenty of content for people into the whole woman hate/submission/humiliation/slavery thing. Very few mods for poeple who just want to see an adult themed mod for peopel with mature tastes yet it seems like every mod with the the potential to become the next dark investigations just turns into another * ah snap player get raped and humilated mod*   when i first saw the slave town mod i nearly shit my pants I thought OH SHIT IT'S FINALLY HERE and adult themed slavery mod that isnt just do x get raped and thats exactly what it turned out being i'll admit if had half a fifth of jack but seriously, is this the fate of all adult mods? Rape with bits of story in between? it just seems like every a mod with potential comes around it ends up becoming another do x get fucked mod and the truly great mods like dark investigations never truly see the light of day. As I mentioned before im very drunk so I may not have completely understood the poll but as soon as I see the word "devious" I get a very predictable very japanese hentai menga storyline in  my head where its just do x fuck do x fuck procedural fuck mod I'm not trying to criticize the mod but I am asking a question I am geniounely curios about. I understand that as someone who doesnt make mods I dont really have a standing but as a consumer I feel like I have the right to ask a serious question

 

 

Well put.  All the bondage, and rape crap in this game is getting really old.  I've mostly quit playing skyrim because every other mod thats come out is pretty much overflowing with bondage or rape. 

[E_Nigma]

Well i guess that sexual slavery without sex is like vodka without alcohol...

 

And please do not judge every single adult mod of just being an rape fest because that nearly insulting for authors of some mods. OFC there are mods like that but there are also those story oriented, full of sex story but still quite interesting story.

 

As of Slave town do not judge it so early because its author clearly said that there is so much rape because he wanted to learn himself how to use sexlab. It would be much different in later versions.

 

Difference betwene sexual slavery and slavery though

 

and I judge slave town because intros set a precedent, even if 95% of the rest fo the mod doesnt revolve around rape the first 20 or so minutes do and it is a major turn off to peopel expecting  a more mature version of the original mod but in skyrim

[aqqh]

Well there are people who say that slavery mods should for example make players work on a farm, picking cabbages and potatos all day.

I would ask - what on earth could be possibly more boring than that?

[E_Nigma]

Well there are people who say that slavery mods should for example make players work on a farm, picking cabbages and potatos all day.

I would ask - what on earth could be possibly more boring than that?

(douchealert)

 

nonstop fuckscenes can be very boring, next time fallout NV  goes on sal e buy it and download slave town, then try and compare, the original was way more immersive, it made you feel hopeless and powerless but at the same time wasnt go fo A get fucked go to B get fucked go to C get fucked rinse wash repeat

 

[Tepi]

Afaik most modders do mods for themselves, with content that interest them. One should be happy those are shared with everyone at all. You can always pickup the CK yourself and start building a mod you like. Pointless criticism in a topic where it does not belong probably just annoys mod authors/fans of said mods for no reason. Also, why would you be browsing SexLab subforum if you do not like nonstop fuckscenes?

[CGi]

As for people that complain about the DD dependencie:

 

We only have a dependencie to the assets (at least in the next verson of APPS) and we need it to create situations that use such devices (hence the dep to ZAP as well).
There'll be forced situations and situations the player can get her-/himself into. So to make this possible and cover different fetishes and playstyles there are simply some dependencies that are needed ... unless we get GetRef for SoftDependencies back or we find another solution like a quest that is associated to an array/formlist.

 

But afterall, APPS will not be a simple slavery mod. Most situations can be avoided (unless they belong to the main quest) which includes to be not forced to do prostitution or become a slave just for the sake of it. if our plan works out, APPS may even be playable w/o having sex even once ... or by fucking your way to your destination ... or a mix - up to the player.

[Nomenklacher]

Afaik most modders do mods for themselves, with content that interest them. One should be happy those are shared with everyone at all. You can always pickup the CK yourself and start building a mod you like. Pointless criticism in a topic where it does not belong probably just annoys mod authors/fans of said mods for no reason. Also, why would you be browsing SexLab subforum if you do not like nonstop fuckscenes?

 

User requested bondage/rape content is taking over good concept mods and turning them into the skyrim version of a snuff film.  It seems like the maturity level of the skyrim modding has taking a sharp dive.  Its like A bunch of young people are the only ones giving their input and maybe they're so desensitized that their taste has devolved into misogyny so they live out their hate fantasies on here.  Just a hypothesis tho. 

 

[CGi]

Not the case with Hero and me or with the concept of APPS.

We'll have real softcore, love based relationships (with the needed long foreplay, to find a way to the heart of the person of interesst [the upcoming test mod will cover this aspect of APPS, as aqqh already pointed out correctly]), something that has to do with a family and it's management as well as other aspects that go into the area of (BD)SM and maybe even darker.

Btw: We are aware of the problems and the resulting fear of to many dependencies and neither Hero or me are a big fan of many dependencies, hence why we try to avoid them in one way or another. But please do us, yourself, the other users and especially the modderators a favor and stay polite when discussing such stuff and other sensible materia that is mostly based on someones taste. Thanks.

[aqqh]

nonstop fuckscenes can be very boring, next time fallout NV  goes on sal e buy it and download slave town, then try and compare, the original was way more immersive, it made you feel hopeless and powerless but at the same time wasnt go fo A get fucked go to B get fucked go to C get fucked rinse wash repeat

 

Told you already to stop judging slave town by its current form because how number 0,1 indicates its a very early stage of mod development.

It was said that more final versions would look different - how it would be made i dont know, i propsed the idea for a player to have a choice either submit and get raped or resist and face consequences of doing so.

Would he follow mine or someone else idea, or maybe similiar idea of his own? How would i know?

 

And yes, this is wrong topic for discussions about slave town mod.

 

Edit - Sorry CGI .. guess i heated it up without good reason

[CGi]

Discussing SlaveTown does not belong into this thread.
And creating a SlaveTown is a big and complicated project and if one is interessted in it but has complaints, this person should simply contribute. No matter if it's ideas or helping to build the mod. And as aqqh already stated, the version number isn't there just for decoration. So before judging, the version number as well as other facts, like the size of the project and how many ppl are working on it, should be taken into the equation.

 

And now please stop discussing other mods in this thread unless it's somehow connected to the development of APPS, like a suggestion to support it.

 

Edit: Np, aqqh. Sometimes things just have to be said, so i tryed to put in earlie end to it before another heated situation arises.

[Heromaster]

Why must every mod contain the devious crap? there is plenty of content for people into the whole woman hate/submission/humiliation/slavery thing. Very few mods for poeple who just want to see an adult themed mod for peopel with mature tastes yet it seems like every mod with the the potential to become the next dark investigations just turns into another * ah snap player get raped and humilated mod*   when i first saw the slave town mod i nearly shit my pants I thought OH SHIT IT'S FINALLY HERE and adult themed slavery mod that isnt just do x get raped and thats exactly what it turned out being i'll admit if had half a fifth of jack but seriously, is this the fate of all adult mods? Rape with bits of story in between? it just seems like every a mod with potential comes around it ends up becoming another do x get fucked mod and the truly great mods like dark investigations never truly see the light of day. As I mentioned before im very drunk so I may not have completely understood the poll but as soon as I see the word "devious" I get a very predictable very japanese hentai menga storyline in  my head where its just do x fuck do x fuck procedural fuck mod I'm not trying to criticize the mod but I am asking a question I am geniounely curios about. I understand that as someone who doesnt make mods I dont really have a standing but as a consumer I feel like I have the right to ask a serious question

 

Back then, when I published the mod the first time, I had DD as dependency just for the solely reason to check if the player is wearing pieces of those devices. When i released it, I had not that much knowledge about CK and Papyrus and for me it was the only way to react to it.

 

And obviously you didn't played APPS and your opinion about it is just based on assumptions.

 

Well put.  All the bondage, and rape crap in this game is getting really old.  I've mostly quit playing skyrim because every other mod thats come out is pretty much overflowing with bondage or rape. 

 

Well, bondage is a big part of everything concerned slavery, w/o it it would be like a soup without salt.

[idonotlikeusernames]

Not the case with Hero and me or with the concept of APPS.

We'll have real softcore, love based relationships (with the needed long foreplay, to find a way to the heart of the person of interesst [the upcoming test mod will cover this aspect of APPS, as aqqh already pointed out correctly]), something that has to do with a family and it's management as well as other aspects that go into the area of (BD)SM and maybe even darker.

 

I'm really curious to see how the foreplay and family dynamics will work out in practice, though out of personal preference I also hope there will also be male (same sex) romance options in the full mod.

[CGi]

The foreplay for a relationship of a special kind will be part of the test mod. Each kind of relationship will have a different type of "getting to know each other", so we created the test based on a rather special and complicated relationship first, as this one contains alot of stuff from other types of relationships.

 

As for m/m content: We won't apply any gender restrictions but as Hero and me are hetero, we develop this content first and then fork f/f and m/m from it. May be completly inaccurate in the first releases of the mod, but i'm sure that people who know about those kind of relationships will point us in the right direction ... after yelling at us first ... maybe ...

 

And as for the family "thingie": You'll never be able to guess what we have planed there, but it has nothing to do with the regular spouses or getting married to an NPC. it won't fit APPS anyway and is really really really complicated to do w/o creating a shit load of conflicts. Ask the creator of Spouses Enhanced ... who sadly quit.

[Guest]

 

Afaik most modders do mods for themselves, with content that interest them. One should be happy those are shared with everyone at all. You can always pickup the CK yourself and start building a mod you like. Pointless criticism in a topic where it does not belong probably just annoys mod authors/fans of said mods for no reason. Also, why would you be browsing SexLab subforum if you do not like nonstop fuckscenes?

 

User requested bondage/rape content is taking over good concept mods and turning them into the skyrim version of a snuff film.  It seems like the maturity level of the skyrim modding has taking a sharp dive.  Its like A bunch of young people are the only ones giving their input and maybe they're so desensitized that their taste has devolved into misogyny so they live out their hate fantasies on here.  Just a hypothesis tho. 

 

 

 

The current group of Skyrim bondage/rape/humiliation mods are practically a radical feminist manifesto when compared to the stuff for Oblivion. The increase in that kind of content is just people's modding ability catching up to their tastes. I'd expect stuff to get a lot darker over the next year or two.

 

So you should brush up on your CK skills to produce some lovey dovey vanilla mods for yourself and everyone else who's put off by that sort of thing

[afa]

I don't get it...dark investigation is totally a submission/humiliation/slavery mod, and somehow people like that, yet other submission/humiliation/slavery mod gets the hate.

 

The only difference is that Dark Investigation has more filler stuff in between each sex acts and they are at the moment somewhat low in number and tame.

[carnifex]

Sorry to contribute to the ongoing derail, but I have to say I find it very amusing how people complain about maturity levels in their animated fantasy porn 

 

I actually do agree with one thing: watching too many sex scenes in sequence becomes a chore at some point, and it's dialogues and storylines that make sex mods sexy for me, actual animated sex is mostly window dressing. I actually gave up on a number of mods for both Oblivion and Fallout because I got bored with the length of non-interactive scenes going on - even Player Slave Encounters, a truly great sex slavery mod if I ever saw one, was guilty of that at certain points.

 

However, from what I've seen in the currently available version of APPS and read from it's creators, it's probably the last mod on LL one could accuse of being a boring rapefest - we're talking about a mod that made waiting tables into an engaging minigame, Talos damn it! Thus, I suggest everyone just wait for the next version and give it a try, you might be in for a pleasant disappointment.