Heromaster Posted May 15, 2014 Author Posted May 15, 2014 When I start the work and go up to the guest to ask if they want something, there's no option "How can I be of service?". I'm being paid for time but I can't serve anyone. It was the 2nd day of work after she offered a whore job and said come another day if you wanna work. So what's the problem? Hmm, so what you are trying to say is you worked the first two days and you did not accept the whore job to continue the waitress job at day 3? This mod works very odd to me. The work won't start by itself. I unequipped all my weapons and magics and put on all the tarven colthes, the quest just won't start. At last I have to start the quest through console. After I completed the second shift and waiting to start the whore work, Hulda said she need some test and "follow me", then she just stand there and won't lead me to the second floor. Seems the event trigger part is very buggy. The quest starts after the last line of dialogue. Please post your load order and Papyrus log so I can take a look what is causing the problem. My best shot in the dark would be missing USKP patches and/or mods which alter the tavern. Quest should start at the end of dialog with Hulda, it shouldn't wait for you to equip or unequip anything. On last dialog option you recieve clothes, book and Tavern Work quest should start. On that scene upstairs i believe Hulda is waiting for 2 new npcs to join you upstairs. Those 2 enter the inn when you head upstairs with Hulda and they should follow you right away. Problem is it seems they could be interrupted by bard play - there is a vanila script that makes all idle npcs nearby to gather around the bard and cheer when he/she starts playing. Hulda keeps waiting for them and they wont ever resume following you after they are done with cheering. When it does happen to those 2 - whole apps scene gets stuck. At least its what it looks like to me. I dunno how it is scripted. Well, they should not be interrupted by the bard because I've put them in the BardExcludeFaction. If they get catched by the bard then the engine messed something up with temporary factions. In fact Hulda is waiting for them go upstairs and then starts also go upstairs. I made this so if the straight path to the stairs is blocked, the scene still feels smoothless. In my dev code I had changed the timing so there is no waiting time between those two actions.
aqqh Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 The only time i got stucked at that scene upstairs it was because of that - i guess. I remember that when i got bored waiting for Hulda to do anything i went downstairs and found those 2 chicks there cheerfully listening to bards play. That was like who the hell is that? Loaded an autosave tried again and it worked fine. But that was long ago in 10.2b version.
Heromaster Posted May 15, 2014 Author Posted May 15, 2014 Yep, like I said that should not happen and in 80% of the time it works they way I intended. But such things are really hard to discover what actually is messing up. My guess is that alot of such problems arise from a heavy plugin list which puts the engine under enormous stress and setups (Like putting them in the BardExcludeFaction) will be handled too late from the engine.
Kazoo Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Ok, turns out I just wasn't wearing the boots. Embarassing a little. 1. Why is every customer dissatisfied? 2. I don't have APPS in MCM, even though I typed setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1 3. And a question - if I declined the whore job on the first day, does it mean I wont ever be offered it?
Regallag the Perv Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Annoying bugs and not triggering their effects will probably happen. Because we will use our own relationship framework which is very likely incompatible to Lover's Comfort. About Lover Victim I can't tell yet exactly if it will still be compatible. That said, they are incompatible in theory. Of course it needs to be tested, when we have done our work to make sure what is really incompatible or where we can use compatibility patches etc. Now I feel stupid, of course you're not going to know how incompatible it is, it isn't even finished yet and you can't know something like that without testing.
Adamantium93 Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 Nevermind, I was dumb and forgot to equip the boots. Great mod, can't wait to see it grow. Also, is the "Endurance" quest as far as it goes right now?
aqqh Posted May 16, 2014 Posted May 16, 2014 After some period of time ask Hulda to evaluate your work. Dont remember how long it was - 8 ingame hours? 10? Quicksave your game and try "finish work" option with Hulda. If she complains load and work some more. To make it good enough guess like 4 hours was enough. To make her fully content about 8 hours i guess. You should have a book in your inventory which explains that.
Heromaster Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 Now I feel stupid, of course you're not going to know how incompatible it is, it isn't even finished yet and you can't know something like that without testing. Don't feel dumb You had some important questions so don't worry. We keep the mod up to date with which mods it will be incompatible. Nevermind, I was dumb and forgot to equip the boots. Great mod, can't wait to see it grow. Also, is the "Endurance" quest as far as it goes right now? Yes, currently that is the end. After some period of time ask Hulda to evaluate your work. Dont remember how long it was - 8 ingame hours? 10? Quicksave your game and try "finish work" option with Hulda. If she complains load and work some more. To make it good enough guess like 4 hours was enough. To make her fully content about 8 hours i guess. You should have a book in your inventory which explains that. Thank you for answering some of the upcoming questions. The work shift depends on the MCM setting. A player has to work at least half the time of a shift to get paid. Now for a quick update about our development progress: Our follower slowly takes shapes. We now have all the base functions tested and build in and now we are working on creating the quests/tasks for the follower. We have already the dialogues, now the next step is to create the quests for it and test the distribution those quests.
andersonl Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 I'm reporting a bug, when Hulda tells me to go upstairs and tells me to undress, she freezes and does nothing, even though I started the dialogue again and removing all clothing, please help me!!!!PS: sorry for my poor english, isn't my main language
BonMage32 Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do?
starrin Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 After a lot of work (I actually started a fresh new game and disabled a lot of mods) I finally got the tarven quest starts by itself, but now on the second day, after I talked went to the second floor and had "fun" with Anjica Windcaller, everything got stuck again. No more futher dialog from the two girls, nor any new dialog from Hulda. [05/17/2014 - 01:20:04PM] SOS SchlongLess: Victara Runelis entered schlongless state[05/17/2014 - 01:20:04PM] SOS SchlongLess: Anjica Windcaller entered schlongless state[05/17/2014 - 01:21:01PM] [slainternalscr ]: Hulda got 2 exposure for seeing naked Alice Rosetta[05/17/2014 - 01:21:09PM] SOS SchlongLess: Olfina Gray-Mane entered schlongless state[05/17/2014 - 01:21:21PM] [slainternalscr ]: Hulda got 2 exposure for seeing naked Alice Rosetta[05/17/2014 - 01:21:35PM] [slainternalscr ]: Victara Runelis got 4 exposure for seeing naked Alice Rosetta[05/17/2014 - 01:21:35PM] [slainternalscr ]: Anjica Windcaller got 2 exposure for seeing naked Alice Rosetta[05/17/2014 - 01:22:01PM] [slainternalscr ]: Hulda got 2 exposure for seeing naked Alice Rosetta[05/17/2014 - 01:23:31PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Found Animations(1): Arrok 69,[05/17/2014 - 01:23:31PM] Error: Cannot call bUseStrapons() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[APPS_SQ02 (3002F939)].APPS_SQ02_Functions.PerformSex() - "apps_sq02_functions.psc" Line 24[APPS_SQ02 (3002F939)].APPS_SQ02_QuestScript.Fragment_1() - "apps_sq02_questscript.psc" Line 33[05/17/2014 - 01:23:31PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp9"stack:[APPS_SQ02 (3002F939)].APPS_SQ02_Functions.PerformSex() - "apps_sq02_functions.psc" Line 24[APPS_SQ02 (3002F939)].APPS_SQ02_QuestScript.Fragment_1() - "apps_sq02_questscript.psc" Line 33[05/17/2014 - 01:23:31PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Thread[0]: Entering Making State[05/17/2014 - 01:23:31PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: ValidateActor(Alice Rosetta) -- TRUE -- Cache HIT[05/17/2014 - 01:23:31PM] -- SexLab -- [sslActorAlias ]: Slotted 'Alice Rosetta'[05/17/2014 - 01:23:32PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: ValidateActor(Anjica Windcaller) -- TRUE -- Cache MISS[05/17/2014 - 01:23:32PM] -- SexLab -- [sslActorAlias ]: Slotted 'Anjica Windcaller'[05/17/2014 - 01:23:32PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Adjustment Profile: ArrokOral.Adjust.NordRaceF.NordRaceF[05/17/2014 - 01:23:34PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: AnimationStart[05/17/2014 - 01:23:35PM] [Zad]: OnAnimationStart()[05/17/2014 - 01:23:35PM] [Zad]: No sex-act-restricted actors present in this sex scene. Done.[05/17/2014 - 01:23:35PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageStart[05/17/2014 - 01:23:35PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 1[05/17/2014 - 01:23:40PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageEnd[05/17/2014 - 01:23:41PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageStart[05/17/2014 - 01:23:41PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 2[05/17/2014 - 01:23:43PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageEnd[05/17/2014 - 01:23:44PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageStart[05/17/2014 - 01:23:44PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 3[05/17/2014 - 01:23:53PM] [Zad]: CheckAllEvents()[05/17/2014 - 01:23:53PM] [Zad]: Player is in a sexlab scene. Not starting new vibration effect.[05/17/2014 - 01:23:53PM] [Zad]: Config Interval:1.500000. Total number of events: 0. Next staggered update in 1.500000[05/17/2014 - 01:23:59PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageEnd[05/17/2014 - 01:23:59PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageStart[05/17/2014 - 01:23:59PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 4[05/17/2014 - 01:24:01PM] [Zad]: ZadNpc::OnUpdateGameTime()[05/17/2014 - 01:24:01PM] [Zad]: ZadNpc::DoRegister(1.499996)[05/17/2014 - 01:24:14PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: StageEnd[05/17/2014 - 01:24:15PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: OrgasmStart[05/17/2014 - 01:24:15PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 5[05/17/2014 - 01:24:24PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: OrgasmEnd[05/17/2014 - 01:24:24PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: AnimationEnding[05/17/2014 - 01:24:24PM] [slamainscr ]: Alice Rosetta can not have orgasm[05/17/2014 - 01:24:24PM] [slamainscr ]: Anjica Windcaller can not have orgasm[05/17/2014 - 01:24:25PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - AliasEvent: Reset[05/17/2014 - 01:24:26PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Event Hook: AnimationEnd[05/17/2014 - 01:24:26PM] [Zad]: OnAnimationEnd()[05/17/2014 - 01:25:46PM] VM is freezing...[05/17/2014 - 01:25:46PM] VM is frozen Found two errors in the quest script. Are they causing the problem? Please help.
starrin Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do? You should talk to her again, and choose the option "...", she will give you a tarven cloth, a boot, a broom, and a book. Then the quest will start.
BonMage32 Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do? You should talk to her again, and choose the option "...", she will give you a tarven cloth, a boot, a broom, and a book. Then the quest will start. So, what should i do to proceed this quest after "..."?
starrin Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do? You should talk to her again, and choose the option "...", she will give you a tarven cloth, a boot, a broom, and a book. Then the quest will start. So, what should i do to proceed this quest after "..."? I'm not really sure. I also have problem at this part. I think you should put on the clothes you were given, and if nothing hapens, try talk to hulda for something else. When you see the "Tarven" quest activated, then everything is OK.
souldead341 Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do? You should talk to her again, and choose the option "...", she will give you a tarven cloth, a boot, a broom, and a book. Then the quest will start. So, what should i do to proceed this quest after "..."? I'm not really sure. I also have problem at this part. I think you should put on the clothes you were given, and if nothing hapens, try talk to hulda for something else. When you see the "Tarven" quest activated, then everything is OK. You should have a quest update to find customers to serve after starting the tavern quest. Go and talk to the people sitting in the tavern, and ask if they want anything. They'll want food, sex, or for you to dance. If they want food, go through the dialogue, then the quest should update again and it should be obvious from there.
BonMage32 Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do?You should talk to her again, and choose the option "...", she will give you a tarven cloth, a boot, a broom, and a book.Then the quest will start. So, what should i do to proceed this quest after "..."? I'm not really sure. I also have problem at this part. I think you should put on the clothes you were given, and if nothing hapens, try talk to hulda for something else. When you see the "Tarven" quest activated, then everything is OK. You should have a quest update to find customers to serve after starting the tavern quest. Go and talk to the people sitting in the tavern, and ask if they want anything. They'll want food, sex, or for you to dance. If they want food, go through the dialogue, then the quest should update again and it should be obvious from there. I don't update quest because it doesn't appear after i accept hulda the quest. Definitely, even though i wear tarven clothes, no one appear dialog about this quest. What's the problem?
starrin Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do?You should talk to her again, and choose the option "...", she will give you a tarven cloth, a boot, a broom, and a book.Then the quest will start. So, what should i do to proceed this quest after "..."? I'm not really sure. I also have problem at this part. I think you should put on the clothes you were given, and if nothing hapens, try talk to hulda for something else. When you see the "Tarven" quest activated, then everything is OK. You should have a quest update to find customers to serve after starting the tavern quest. Go and talk to the people sitting in the tavern, and ask if they want anything. They'll want food, sex, or for you to dance. If they want food, go through the dialogue, then the quest should update again and it should be obvious from there. I don't update quest because it doesn't appear after i accept hulda the quest. Definitely, even though i wear tarven clothes, no one appear dialog about this quest. What's the problem? I believe I found the key solution. You need to *SIT* before the bar table after the first dialog as she requested. She will come to you after complaining Saadia's disappearance, and then she will bring you the clothes, and the quest automaticly begins. You don't need to put on the clothes, and you don't need to start the second dialog by yourself.
BonMage32 Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 When i talk to hulda and she told me have a seat, the character stopped don't fo anything. What's wrong? What should i do?You should talk to her again, and choose the option "...", she will give you a tarven cloth, a boot, a broom, and a book.Then the quest will start. So, what should i do to proceed this quest after "..."?I'm not really sure. I also have problem at this part.I think you should put on the clothes you were given, and if nothing hapens, try talk to hulda for something else. When you see the "Tarven" quest activated, then everything is OK. You should have a quest update to find customers to serve after starting the tavern quest. Go and talk to the people sitting in the tavern, and ask if they want anything. They'll want food, sex, or for you to dance. If they want food, go through the dialogue, then the quest should update again and it should be obvious from there. I don't update quest because it doesn't appear after i accept hulda the quest. Definitely, even though i wear tarven clothes, no one appear dialog about this quest. What's the problem? I believe I found the key solution. You need to *SIT* before the bar table after the first dialog as she requested. She will come to you after complaining Saadia's disappearance, and then she will bring you the clothes, and the quest automaticly begins. You don't need to put on the clothes, and you don't need to start the second dialog by yourself. Thanks, i will try it.
Sebastian Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 I'm reporting a bug, when Hulda tells me to go upstairs and tells me to undress, she freezes and does nothing, even though I started the dialogue again and removing all clothing, please help me!!!! PS: sorry for my poor english, isn't my main language Exact same bug happens here, the two you are supposed to meet are present... But they are all sitting down on the chairs topside and does nada, same with Hulda, you are also relinquished control so not much action could be done. Since this happens a lot, can the dev add a little "kicker" to the scripts that users can start manually when it breaks to kickstart it.
Heromaster Posted May 18, 2014 Author Posted May 18, 2014 I'm reporting a bug, when Hulda tells me to go upstairs and tells me to undress, she freezes and does nothing, even though I started the dialogue again and removing all clothing, please help me!!!! PS: sorry for my poor english, isn't my main language Exact same bug happens here, the two you are supposed to meet are present... But they are all sitting down on the chairs topside and does nada, same with Hulda, you are also relinquished control so not much action could be done. Since this happens a lot, can the dev add a little "kicker" to the scripts that users can start manually when it breaks to kickstart it. So you are saying, after undressing the player controls are disabled and Hulda still doesn't say anything?
Sebastian Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Yep, and it can stay that way for hours... Sadly no logs or errors that I can see either. And the two females give no reaction to your presence at all. I have tried reloading the save before you call it a day on day 2, and it happens every time, I also tried varying my position in case it was pathfinding but no dice there.
BonMage32 Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 After i take the quest,i just waiting for time? How i should do to proceed the quest?
Heromaster Posted May 18, 2014 Author Posted May 18, 2014 Yep, and it can stay that way for hours... Sadly no logs or errors that I can see either. And the two females give no reaction to your presence at all. I have tried reloading the save before you call it a day on day 2, and it happens every time, I also tried varying my position in case it was pathfinding but no dice there. Post yor load order please. After i take the quest,i just waiting for time? How i should do to proceed the quest? After the quest started and you have equipped the clothes and the boots you can go and talk to patrons which are sitting. They then will tell you what they want.
Sebastian Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 My load order is: Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm SkyUI.esp Sexlab.esm Sexlabaroused.esm ZaZanimationpack.esm ((Devious Devices series, shortened to DD from this point.)) dd - integration.esm dd - Deviants.esp dd - assets.esm dd - expansion.esm dd - Males addon.esp APPS.esp CompetitionSwimsuit.esp GattiBondage1.esp mmpiercingparts1.esp zarias_restraints.esp CapturedDreams.esp CD - Zarias Restraints addon.esp That is what I have on the list at the moment, I only plan on inserting the DD - For the masses after the DD load order, but this bug occurs without DD for the masses installed.
Heromaster Posted May 18, 2014 Author Posted May 18, 2014 Hmm, odd situation. I don't see a mod which could conflict with that scene. Are you sure you have unequipped everything even weapons?
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