SexLab TDF Prostitution and Pimping (the former "Aggressive Prostitution") v2.2.5.5

[RDKateran]

Can I make a small request? One of my favorite prostitution mods for skyrim is Niruins business plan and that is because NBP was 

the only mod that treats the prostitutes as actual people instead of mindless sex drones. I really liked how in the begining they would feel embarashed and as they gained expirience they wound slowly start to get used to it and eventually enjoy it. Occationally they would even "rebel" and arrange "jobs" for you.

 

So, since I remember readind a post of yours saying that you also like NBP, I wonder if you plan to add an option that makes the npcs less "eager" and obedient.

 

This mod was inspired in part by NBP, but TDF's already expressed distaste at the table-turning aspect of NBP and I don't think he intends to add anything similar.

 

[TheDriedFinger]

TDF has already set the acceptance by hired NPCs related to some conditions, if I remember well. Like relationship with player, I think, Player's speechcraft skill and so on.

Maybe it could be made a bit "harder", introducing a new "refuse" dialogue that needs more "attempts" or some favours before they accept.

 

@ TDF

Talking about the new version, it seems great, as always. I suppose that the new hiring dialogue appears only for the "skilled" girls. Am I right?

Yes, the success in recruiting an NPC depends on their relationship with player (which I consider to be equivalent to requiring "some favours before they accept", since the relationship rank increases with these favour quests), the player's speechcraft level, their arousal level, and their relationships with other NPCs.

 

Also, the new "city" feature is only available through a dialogue option that appears in conversation with NPCs/followers who are not currently enlisted as followers, have been dismissed from your employ, and have had at least 10 clients. A city is only available if you own the house in the city.

 

 

Can I make a small request? One of my favorite prostitution mods for skyrim is Niruins business plan and that is because NBP was 

the only mod that treats the prostitutes as actual people instead of mindless sex drones. I really liked how in the begining they would feel embarashed and as they gained expirience they wound slowly start to get used to it and eventually enjoy it. Occationally they would even "rebel" and arrange "jobs" for you.

 

So, since I remember readind a post of yours saying that you also like NBP, I wonder if you plan to add an option that makes the npcs less "eager" and obedient.

 

This mod was inspired in part by NBP, but TDF's already expressed distaste at the table-turning aspect of NBP and I don't think he intends to add anything similar.

 

 

For sure, I don't like the situation where the player character gets pimped out by one of their prostitutes. However, I'd like to discuss the dialogue option where you ask how many clients they've had. The issue is that the experience/level system in my mod is a bit more complex than simply how many clients they've had (it also consists of how many training sessions they've had and a final calculated bonus).

[germanicus]

Observation: I have a male PC. Came to Saadia and pimped her to have a sex with me. When she said: "Tell me when you are ready!" When the animation started, my male PC sucked her penis belt. And all animation that I trigger with "O" hotkey, was for females. The game somehow understood that my male PC is a female. So Saadia is fucking me. Well, I corrected it by using switch position SL's hot key. But temporary.  It also happened with female mercenary in Whiteun. So, I don't know why the game treats my male PC as a female when he pimped a girl to have a sex with her.

[TheDriedFinger]

Thanks for telling me about that. I've made similar mistakes with that before. I'll correct it for the next version.

 

UPDATE: The bug has been squashed! v2.0.0.0b is available.

[germanicus]

Thanks TDF. Love you.

[germanicus]

Quote: "adds a feature where experienced prostitutes may be told to work independently in a major city (Markarth, Riften, Solitude, Whiterun, and Windhelm) using the player's home as a base. A new dialogue option will appear for prostitutes that have had at least 10 clients, are not currently following the player, and have been dismissed from the player's employ. The player must own the house in the city for the option to be available. The prostitute sandbox inside the city, find clients, and take them back to the player's home."

 

Answer: I hired Saadia. Our relationship level is 4. She already advanced to the level where she can find a client by herself. So far, she had 19 clients. I took her to my home in Whitern and dismissed her from prostitution. She gave my my cut of the money, but I didn't get any new line(s) to ask her to prostitute in the city. Did I miss something or I missetepreated your text?

[germanicus]

Ignore my upper post. It works, It took some time that the line for hiring Saadia in the city get loaded, but it works. My apologies.

[alexey8]

My players dont have sex they just stand there in there undies only sound comes, whats the problem?????
Reply Fast!!!!!

[WaxenFigure]

My players dont have sex they just stand there in there undies only sound comes, whats the problem?????

Reply Fast!!!!!

You missed several things. First off, you need NUDE body mods because vanilla (those that come with the game) characters have their underwear drawn directly onto the body.

 

You also failed to run the FNIS User Generator program which needs to be run EVERY TIME you install or uninstall a mod containing new animations (like the Sexlab Framework).

 

Last, make sure you are loading the game using the SKSE loader program instead of loading the game through Steam.

[germanicus]

Another observation. This one is for real : I disabled "lead the client to the bed" option. Then Saadia was whoring in the city. When enabled that option, she picked Anoriath from the market who worked on his stall. She took him into my house (Breezehome) in Whiterun. Following them, I saw them having the sex with on the bed. Now during the sex, Anoriath had his clothes on, and his lower part of the body was sunk throughout the bed. Saadia was completely invisible. After they finish the job, Saadia completely disappeared and Anoriath was standing at the front of my house as he was usually standing behind his stall in the market. More than 14 Skyrim hours passed, he was still there, never returned to his home and Saadia is gone for good. I was looking for her in whole Whiterun and couldn't find her.

When restarting the quest, Anoriath was still on the front of my house, Saaia is still gone.

[TheDriedFinger]

Another observation. This one is for real : I disabled "lead the client to the bed" option. Then Saadia was whoring in the city. When enabled that option, she picked Anoriath from the market who worked on his stall. She took him into my house (Breezehome) in Whiterun. Following them, I saw them having the sex with on the bed. Now during the sex, Anoriath had his clothes on, and his lower part of the body was sunk throughout the bed. Saadia was completely invisible. After they finish the job, Saadia completely disappeared and Anoriath was standing at the front of my house as he was usually standing behind his stall in the market. More than 14 Skyrim hours passed, he was still there, never returned to his home and Saadia is gone for good. I was looking for her in whole Whiterun and couldn't find her.

When restarting the quest, Anoriath was still on the front of my house, Saaia is still gone.

The "Find Bed" option does not affect the new feature. I just made this choice because, in my mind, the concept was for the prostitute to be running her activities out of the player's home. Of course, the bug you reported is very much possible. Strange things can happen when a SexLab animation is triggered in a cell that isn't loaded. Does using the Wait menu to wait for a while help to restore the actors to their original position? In light of this, I think I'll have the "Find Bed" also affect the new feature.

[WaxenFigure]

Another observation. This one is for real : I disabled "lead the client to the bed" option. Then Saadia was whoring in the city. When enabled that option, she picked Anoriath from the market who worked on his stall. She took him into my house (Breezehome) in Whiterun. Following them, I saw them having the sex with on the bed. Now during the sex, Anoriath had his clothes on, and his lower part of the body was sunk throughout the bed. Saadia was completely invisible. After they finish the job, Saadia completely disappeared and Anoriath was standing at the front of my house as he was usually standing behind his stall in the market. More than 14 Skyrim hours passed, he was still there, never returned to his home and Saadia is gone for good. I was looking for her in whole Whiterun and couldn't find her.

When restarting the quest, Anoriath was still on the front of my house, Saaia is still gone.

Saadia probably clipped through and fell into the underneath of Whiterun and of course is unable to get out.

 

You can go to her (to verify that is the case) by opening the console and entering:

 

player.moveto D7505

 

Fast travel to Whiterun again to get back into the above part of town (or coc WhiterunOrigin in the console) and open the console again:

 

prid D7505

moveto player

 

to get her back into the above part.

[TheDriedFinger]

OK, so I'm going to address the bug that germanicus described. It is important to understand what it means when a cell is loaded into the game's memory. In Skyrim, the game does not simply load into memory what cell the player is in. It also remembers and loads what cells the player was recently in as well. Now, consider Whiterun. I did some testing there. When the prostitute entered Breezehome (which I had not been in recently, and so was not loaded into memory) with a client and a function to start sex between them was called, and note that I was not in Breezehome either, it seems that nothing happened. They entered Breezehome and then left a few seconds later. However, when I repeated this with Breezehome loaded into memory, they entered the building, left a few seconds later, and suddenly disappeared right afterwards.Using the "moveto" command revealed that they had somehow been teleported into that weird-looking low-LOD area outside of the normal Whiterun area. Anyway, I'll add another condition for the player to have to be in the same cell as the prostitute for the function to run. Very odd stuff, indeed.

 

UPDATE: The new v2.0.0.0c is up! It allows the "Hookers Travel to Beds" MCM option to affect the new city prostitution feature. It also adds a condition on the scene to only trigger a SexLab animation at the end if the player is in the same cell at the time.

[bytion]

how can I remove the 10 clients requirement in this mod? that's a good idea for role playing, but if I want to test this mod, I have to train the hookers 10 times......

[TheDriedFinger]

You can use console commands. I mention some useful ones here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21973-sexlab-tdf-prostitution-and-pimping-the-former-aggressive-prostitution-v2000c/page-55?do=findComment&comment=813422

[bytion]

You can use console commands. I mention some useful ones here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21973-sexlab-tdf-prostitution-and-pimping-the-former-aggressive-prostitution-v2000c/page-55?do=findComment&comment=813422

 

Thank u, that's what I need, after update to 2.0, I lost all the states.

[bytion]

another question, how can I use the new option:"assign a prostitute to work in each of the five major cities"

 

I have high rank hookers already, but can't find the options.

 

edited: nvm, I found it, turns out u need dismiss the hookers then talk to them, well, didn't think of that..........

[germanicus]

 

Another observation. This one is for real : I disabled "lead the client to the bed" option. Then Saadia was whoring in the city. When enabled that option, she picked Anoriath from the market who worked on his stall. She took him into my house (Breezehome) in Whiterun. Following them, I saw them having the sex with on the bed. Now during the sex, Anoriath had his clothes on, and his lower part of the body was sunk throughout the bed. Saadia was completely invisible. After they finish the job, Saadia completely disappeared and Anoriath was standing at the front of my house as he was usually standing behind his stall in the market. More than 14 Skyrim hours passed, he was still there, never returned to his home and Saadia is gone for good. I was looking for her in whole Whiterun and couldn't find her.

When restarting the quest, Anoriath was still on the front of my house, Saaia is still gone.

The "Find Bed" option does not affect the new feature. I just made this choice because, in my mind, the concept was for the prostitute to be running her activities out of the player's home. Of course, the bug you reported is very much possible. Strange things can happen when a SexLab animation is triggered in a cell that isn't loaded. Does using the Wait menu to wait for a while help to restore the actors to their original position? In light of this, I think I'll have the "Find Bed" also affect the new feature.

 

 

I enabled  "Findbed" because Saadia never took a client to my house. After enabling this option, she did. Waiting option and repair mod didn't solve the problem. It's probably happened, what WaxenF. said - she fell underneath of Whiterun. When was was unable to recover her I reloaded the game before Saadia pimped the client.

Thanks for the update.

 

 

Another observation. This one is for real : I disabled "lead the client to the bed" option. Then Saadia was whoring in the city. When enabled that option, she picked Anoriath from the market who worked on his stall. She took him into my house (Breezehome) in Whiterun. Following them, I saw them having the sex with on the bed. Now during the sex, Anoriath had his clothes on, and his lower part of the body was sunk throughout the bed. Saadia was completely invisible. After they finish the job, Saadia completely disappeared and Anoriath was standing at the front of my house as he was usually standing behind his stall in the market. More than 14 Skyrim hours passed, he was still there, never returned to his home and Saadia is gone for good. I was looking for her in whole Whiterun and couldn't find her.

When restarting the quest, Anoriath was still on the front of my house, Saaia is still gone.

Saadia probably clipped through and fell into the underneath of Whiterun and of course is unable to get out.

 

You can go to her (to verify that is the case) by opening the console and entering:

 

player.moveto D7505

 

Fast travel to Whiterun again to get back into the above part of town (or coc WhiterunOrigin in the console) and open the console again:

 

prid D7505

moveto player

 

to get her back into the above part.

 

 

Thank you W.F. for help. I thought of using the console command: player.moveto XXX but I didn't since I have experienced that I got an NPC's clone. And I completely forgot on "pride" console command. Anyhow, thanks again for the other console commands you provided. Very helpful.

[germanicus]

Quote; "When the prostitute entered Breezehome (which I had not been in recently, and so was not loaded into memory) with a client and a function to start sex between them was called, and note that I was not in Breezehome either, it seems that nothing happened."

 

Answer: Yea, this is another thing I wanted to tell you about, but I forgot. I noticed that Saadia doesn't prostitute if I'm not present in Whiterun. I was absent from Whiterun for 3 Skyrim days, when came back, she had the same amount of money as before.

[Silver Wolf]

Two possibilities exist: either Germanicus is the pimp or prostitute. Both are equally terrifying...

[germanicus]

:lol:

[NicoleDragoness]

@TDF

 

I noticed that the downloads of your mod is pretty slower than almost all the ohters here on LoversLab (at least for my own system/connection/hub).

Could it be to the high number of "archived" versions in the download page?

If yes, you could consider to create a real archive for the old versions.

 

If I am wrong, please accept my apologies.

Anyhow, maybe a little suggestion:

considering that your updates, normally, involve only some little parts of your mod, you could separate the main size (dance and music, I suppose) as a "resource file".

[NicoleDragoness]

Some other reports, because I'm testing the new features about the autonomous whores (version 2.0.0.0c).

 

I'm not completely sure but it could be a conflict with the mod MyHomeIsYourHome.

At least with one part of this.

 

Due the fact I have a slightly modified version of Breezehome (basement added - two rooms with armory and realx area and one bed, one bed added in the corridor leading to the main bedroom), I used the above mentioned mod on Lydia. I assigned her Breezehome as "new home" (even if she is already a sort of inhabitant).

This way, using another feature of MHIYH, I was able to assign her the basement to sleep (and this worked really fine, at 10pm until 6am she goes in this bed to sleep).

The third feature of the MYIYH mod (and the one I suppose could conflict with your mod) allow the player to assign a "place to work during day (9am - 5pm)".

I assigned Lydia to the Market Place in Whiterun for this feature.

 

After I asked her to work as autonomous whore and after several days in which I went out and in Whiterun several times, everytime I asked her about the job, she answered "here is your cut" but the message said "there is no money gained yet". Btw, I didn't notice her at work during the few times I was in Whiterun.

 

Now, I used again the MHIYH mod, deleting her assignements and them I gave her again only the two related to the home and the sleeping area. No longer the work area.

I'll see what will happen and then I will report here again.

 

Have a nice day.

[germanicus]

Yea, even after the upgrade to "c" version, Saadia is doing autonomous prostitution only when I'm in the city. Also, quote from ND: "everytime I asked her about the job, she answered "here is your cut" but the message said "there is no money gained yet"." is happening in my game too.

[WaxenFigure]

Yea, even after the upgrade to "c" version, Saadia is doing autonomous prostitution only when I'm in the city. Also, quote from ND: "everytime I asked her about the job, she answered "here is your cut" but the message said "there is no money gained yet"." is happening in my game too.

No surprise there, no NPC does a thing unless the player in town or in the area. Its how the base game works.