Baldurs gate 3?

[Grey Cloud]

9 hours ago, bjornk said:

Imagine, this was just a NWN mod made by one person

My all time favourite mod of any game was "Citadel" for NWN1 by Jim Grimsley, Madeleine St. Romain and Jeff Tyson. DLC-sized, superb story, characters and writing with unique monsters. I don't know how many times I replayed it over the years.

https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/module/citadel

 

[Grey Cloud]

6 hours ago, Darkpig said:

I much prefer the word customer over the word consumer. A customer is a person meanwhile consumer is either something that eats, someone who wastes or in terms of the word consumption a disease.

Come to think of it consumption would be a good name for certain CEOs.

Produce and consume.

[dagobaking]

18 hours ago, MintBerryCrunch! said:

 

The section is not the same for every game, it just answers the same questions that steam deems mandatory. i.e. how long will EA last, what is the state of the early access, why do you even need early access etc.

 

It's the section you go to to figure out the state of early access if you want to know what content you're going to get with early access. It's not "the fine print". It's specifically there to make it clear it a very bold and hard-to-miss as possible way to let you know the state of current and ongoing early access.

 

You can keep pressing this point, but you didn't do the bare minimum to figure out the state of early access of the game, before buying and being disappointed with the state of early access of the game. This is not on Larian, or even steam.

 

Sorry. You're mistaken. Here is the information in the first EA statement I found just now:

 

 

Notice that it doesn't contain any information at all about specifically how complete the game actually is.

 

And you blame me for not reading these useless blurbs?

 

Anyway, what is more remarkable to me here is your own motivation. To define what the bare minimum game research requirement is and make sure some stranger on the internet knows that they fell short in your opinion?

 

17 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

I know Americans don't understand irony but there is a certain irony in that global consumer capitalism is destroying cultures at least as much as CM.

 

Americans don't understand irony... based on?

 

I would argue that neither capitalism or marxism destroy cultures. Those are just systems that give more or less opportunity for individuals within them to do that damage. There is no system that has a perfect record of protecting society from all of human natures worst intentions.

 

[Grey Cloud]

24 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

Americans don't understand irony... based on?

Observing the usage of the word in various American media over several decades.

 

24 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

I would argue that neither capitalism or marxism destroy cultures.

Based on? Ever read anything by Francis Fukayama or Philip Bobbit or Marx or . . .

 

27 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

There is no system that has a perfect record of protecting society from all of human natures worst intentions.

Nobody has suggested otherwise but do systems influence human nature or does human nature influence the systems? Is human nature monolithic or is it a beast of manifold aspect? Is human nature the same in every time and place or does it change according to the presence or absence of certain phenomena?

[dagobaking]

19 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Observing the usage of the word in various American media over several decades.

 

Can you give one or two examples?

 

19 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Based on? Ever read anything by Francis Fukayama or Philip Bobbit or Marx or . . .

 

Based on the observation that conceptual structures of government are inanimate without individuals to carry them out.

 

19 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Nobody has suggested otherwise but do systems influence human nature or does human nature influence the systems? Is human nature monolithic or is it a beast of manifold aspect? Is human nature the same in every time and place or does it change according to the presence or absence of certain phenomena?

 

I don't think there is any evidence that systems have any influence over human nature at all. I mean, that's the entire idea of human nature. It's a fundamental part of a species being. It's natural variation of motivations.

 

The systems come after or from that.

[KoolHndLuke]

Umm.... BG3?

 

I want to read more "critiques" of the game while I wait ten days for my slow-as-fuck connection to download it. 

 

Like how does attribute/ability stacking work? Does one piece of gear with +3 Int stack with another that adds +1? For that matter, what about critical stacking? Will my thief fucking stealth kill Gods or what? 

 

And most importantly, which race has the biggest dick since I want to run around in the buff and make hoochies panties drop. Bonus for pointy ears and forked tail here. 

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by KoolHndLuke

[FauxFurry]

37 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Halflings can't fuck? That's a pretty big insult to a few midgets I've known. Sooo NOT inclusive fuckers!

 

Anyone under 5' 3''/160 cm is considered 'Child Coded' these days.

[KoolHndLuke]

24 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

Anyone under 5' 3''/160 cm is considered 'Child Coded' these days.

Mmm... I deleted the post because after thinking about it decided that it's probably a subject better left alone. On the one hand it isn't fair to "smaller" adults, but on the other it's something that- if allowed- could easily be exploited to promote child porn in games. So the potential harm to many far outweighs the slight to a minority.

Edited August 19, 2023 by KoolHndLuke

[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Like how does attribute/ability stacking work? Does one piece of gear with +3 Int stack with another that adds +1? For that matter, what about critical stacking? Will my thief fucking stealth kill Gods or what? 

In DnD most things like that don't stack.

 

5e has dumbed-down the rules so that races are virtually identical and most classes can melee or magic. And then there is Larian on top of that.

 

There are no map encounters in the game everything is scripted events. If you stray off the road you may come across an alchemy ingredient or a buried chest but you wont get attacked by e.g. wolves or bandits.

 

Even Markarth doesn't look as good as it used to. ? It's actually a githyanki creche in the basement of a Temple of Lathander (or in my mind an Italian restaurant called the Temple of Lasagne).

Bardo the bard, my PC.

Lae'zel (Lizzie) githyanki fighter.

Shadowheart (Shadders) Cleric of Shar. She's taking the photo.

Karlach (Carjack) barbarian.

I had to jump through a few hoops with the dialogue options to keep Lizzie in the party while at the same time double-crossing the giths' Lich Queen Vlaakith (the lich queen of New Orleans).

[sila]

4 hours ago, dagobaking said:

 

Sorry. You're mistaken. Here is the information in the first EA statement I found just now:

 

 

Notice that it doesn't contain any information at all about specifically how complete the game actually is.

 

And you blame me for not reading these useless blurbs?

 

Anyway, what is more remarkable to me here is your own motivation. To define what the bare minimum game research requirement is and make sure some stranger on the internet knows that they fell short in your opinion?

 

 

Americans don't understand irony... based on?

 

I would argue that neither capitalism or marxism destroy cultures. Those are just systems that give more or less opportunity for individuals within them to do that damage. There is no system that has a perfect record of protecting society from all of human natures worst intentions.

 

You missed the read more line....

 

EVERY game that goes into EA is required to answer those questions. Some of them are more vague than others, but they are required to answer them regardless.

Edited August 19, 2023 by sila

[bjornk]

2 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said:

And most importantly, which race has the biggest dick since I want to run around in the buff and make hoochies panties drop. Bonus for pointy ears and forked tail here. 

 

There's no distinction in terms of dick size but to be fair, if longer than average ears or shorter than average height can be considered as a separate race, then there should be a separate race for longer than average dicks, right? Can give you a bonus to charisma, while reducing dexterity, when in melee range you can automatically cast "fear" on male enemies of shorter dick races and cast "charm" on female enemies of the same races when not wearing any underwear, and you can also use your longer than average salami as a melee weapon if need be.

 

There's one major issue about stealth in the game is that you cannot hide in barrels, but barrels can hide in you. Makes no sense to me.

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by bjornk

[FauxFurry]

4 minutes ago, bjornk said:

 

There's no distinction in terms of dick size but to be fair, if longer than average ears or shorter than average height can be considered as a separate race, then there should be a separate race for longer than average dicks, right? Can give you a bonus to charisma, while reducing dexterity, when in melee range you can automatically cast "fear" on male enemies of shorter dick races and cast "charm" on female enemies of the same races when not wearing any underwear, and you can also use your longer than average salami as a melee weapon if need be.

 

There's one major issue about stealth in the game is that you cannot hide in barrels, but barrels can hide in you. Makes no sense to me.

 

Then one would have to go about calculating equivalent bonuses and penalties to female character penises dependent upon what gender or sexuality of character one interacts with just to make sure that no customization options are left out and that might just end up one great big headache not worth the hassle in the end not so much because of the technical feat but because of the implications of any choices that they make.

[KoolHndLuke]

20 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

In DnD most things like that don't stack.

Not a huge deal. I kind of like having to be clever about how to build my party/characters optimally.

 

21 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

5e has dumbed-down the rules so that races are virtually identical and most classes can melee or magic. And then there is Larian on top of that.

Whelp.... that defeats the whole race affinity angle. That sucks.

 

23 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

There are no map encounters in the game everything is scripted events. If you stray off the road you may come across an alchemy ingredient or a buried chest but you wont get attacked by e.g. wolves or bandits.

Good and bad I suppose. Good for a few runs. Bad for replay potential down the road.

 

29 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Even Markarth doesn't look as good as it used to.

FYI- Markarth never looked good. 

[sila]

1 minute ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Not a huge deal. I kind of like having to be clever about how to build my party/characters optimally.

 

You played the pathfinder games yet? Seems like you would enjoy those.

[bjornk]

7 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

Then one would have to go about calculating equivalent bonuses and penalties to female character penises dependent upon what gender or sexuality of character one interacts with just to make sure that no customization options are left out and that might just end up one great big headache not worth the hassle in the end not so much because of the technical feat but because of the implications of any choices that they make.

Or you can simply assume that whoever has a penis is essentially a male.
 

[bjornk]

Minus 10 points for the lack of Withers romance.

[KoolHndLuke]

12 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

Then one would have to go about calculating equivalent bonuses and penalties to female character penises dependent upon what gender or sexuality of character one interacts with just to make sure that no customization options are left out and that might just end up one great big headache not worth the hassle in the end not so much because of the technical feat but because of the implications of any choices that they make.

DM reserved call in session. 

[Grey Cloud]

58 minutes ago, bjornk said:

Minus 10 points for the lack of Withers romance.

During the post save the grove party I was imaging being stuck in the kitchen with Withers. ☹️

 

1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Good and bad I suppose. Good for a few runs. Bad for replay potential down the road.

 

I was thinking the lack of map encounters would cause problems for certain types of mods. Another thing is the lack of settlements. In act 1 there is a druid grove/refugee camp, a large goblin camp, an abandoned village now occupied by goblins and that's about it.

There's some other places in act 2 but I'm not there yet and of course the city of BG.

 

In character creation you can give a female a penis or a male a vagina. Nexus of all places is full of futa mods and various penis mods.

 

My boy Bardo had his first go with with Lizzie and it lasted about two minutes and the raciest part was a flash of a full frontal of Lizzie and an equally brief shot of Bardo's butt. They just had their second go and it was even shorter and sans the nudity. All in all typical Larian  - they talk a good game but never deliver.

[dagobaking]

2 hours ago, sila said:

You missed the read more line....

 

aka the fine print of the internet. But, like I said, anyone who needs the title can have it: Superior Steam Purchaser!

 

Whether or not I caught all the EA details wasn't even the point I was making. :D

[sila]

43 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

 

aka the fine print of the internet. But, like I said, anyone who needs the title can have it: Superior Steam Purchaser!

 

Whether or not I caught all the EA details wasn't even the point I was making.

Fair enough, I don't really even care about the argument just wanted to point that out.

 

[dagobaking]

3 hours ago, sila said:

Fair enough, I don't really even care about the argument just wanted to point that out.

 

All good!

 

Now I need to get back to finishing Act 1 again. ?

[Slorm]

I'm a good way through the Gauntlet of Shar which I think they've done a good job on. It reminds me a bit of when I used to play tabletop D&D, a big rambling temple with lots of traps and one hell of a fight at one point if you miss a background dice check.

 

It makes a pleasant change in Act 2, I personally find the Shadow Cursed Lands a bit depressing.

[Grey Cloud]

3 hours ago, Slorm said:

I'm a good way through the Gauntlet of Shar which I think they've done a good job on. It reminds me a bit of when I used to play tabletop D&D, a big rambling temple with lots of traps and one hell of a fight at one point if you miss a background dice check.

 

It makes a pleasant change in Act 2, I personally find the Shadow Cursed Lands a bit depressing.

You spoiler, you.

Only joking. I'm still in the Underdark and I am planning on taking that route to Moonlight Bay (?).

Edited August 20, 2023 by Grey Cloud

[bjornk]

Shame that there's no travelling in the game, which completely prevents random encounters, which is why you no longer hear signature BG stuff, such as "You must gather your party before venturing forth!" or "You have been waylaid by enemies and must defend yourself!" and so on in the game.

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, bjornk said:

Shame that there's no travelling in the game, which completely prevents random encounters, which is why you no longer hear signature BG stuff, such as "You must gather your party before venturing forth!" or "You have been waylaid by enemies and must defend yourself!" and so on in the game.

"You are approaching another Larian gimmick, grit your teeth before proceeding".