Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[Mord Sif]

Help? I'm a little lost.

 

I'm using DDA, DDI, DDE, and the captured dreams shop. All of that seems to work fine, but.. well, the little helper and little devil plugs have books that explain their effects, but to a large degree I'm just flying blind here.

 

What does ebonite do, besides add a different color/finish, if anything? What do the eggs do? What do the nipple/labia soulgem piercings do? Why are some things listed as being elven/dunmer/imperial? What about the various butt plugs that don't fall out, do those have any effects or are they just cosmetic? What about the inflatable plugs, is it possible to orgasm using them or do they just stimulate you?

 

When I try to use some things, they fall out unless I'm wearing a harness or belt - all of which seem to lock in place. Are there any harnesses that don't lock in place? It would be nice if I could just use these things as toys without risking getting stuck in them. I realize you can make it easy to get out of these things with the MCM menu, but still, it seems silly that I would lock myself into a harness when all I want to do is play with toys in my house.

 

Which items, besides the soulgem plugs, can stimulate your character to orgasm, if any?

 

Also, what happens if you're wearing a locked item like a harness or chastity belt, and you turn (or try to turn) into a werewolf? Does it just not let you transform, or do the items get unequipped as normal, or do they break, or do you die horribly? xD

 

I can't answer all of these (some items may be from the Captured Dreams add-ons that offer things not part of the main DD framework.)

 

 

 

Ebonite - it's simply a different look, a shiny version of the standard colour. So black leather and black ebonite do exactly the same things, it's just that the latter is shiny and the former isn't. Same for red and white.

 

Eggs - I've never seen any eggs in DD. Maybe something for sale in the CD shop?

 

Soulgem Piercings - they vibrate to increase your arousal from time to time. If worn with vibrating plugs they all harmonise when one of them vibrates, producing bigger increases in arousal than if you were wearing one item alone.

 

Elven/Dunmer/Imperial - again, never seen this relating to DD. Not part of the framework as far as I'm aware.

 

Butt plugs that don't fall out - I've never seen ones that don't if you're not wearing a belt or harness. I have found sometimes a plug can stay in after removing a belt/harness, but that's usually a glitch. If you have plugs that don't fall out they are likely - again - not part of the framework and from an add-on mod.

 

Inflatable plugs - can be squeezed to increase arousal, either manually by interacting with them in the menu, or by accident when sitting down or through a polled event. They won't force you to orgasm, I don't think.

 

Belts/harnesses - you need one on in order to keep plugs in. There are non-locking versions of the harness in DDx that can be worn along with a belt (I think it's called Slave Harness) but that means they don't have the belt keyword which is what holds plugs in, so I don't think they work in that way. You pretty much need a locking belt/harness to keep plugs in as far as I know, but it's been a while since I wore one of the non-locking ones, so I might be wrong.

 

Orgasm - the only things that can force you to orgasm I know of are some of the special plugs from Captured Dreams - certainly the Orgasmo does, repeatedly - it's a favourite of mine! - and the Tormentor can, along with other things. I'm not sure anything else does.

 

Werewolves/Vamp Lords - surprisingly, given the amount of time I've played with DD mods, I've never transformed while wearing devices. Admittedly, I don't spend much time as either of those things, but I have done in the past. I can't say what would happen. You could always try it out and see. (Keep a save from before in case it goes badly wrong.)

 

 

 

If someone notices anything I've got wrong here, please let me know.

[xTrogdorx]

Thanks for the reply, someone answered my questions in the captured dreams shop thread, too. I had forgotten that I had installed Calyps sex toys and a compatibility patch that made its items available in the CD shop, and because of that I mistakenly thought they were part of DD.

 

Hmm, I had assumed the slave harness locked and the others did not, so I skipped buying/trying that one, only to find that every harness I did buy locks. I'll have to go back and try the slave harness. But really, just equipping armor or wearing an underwear item like the one from SoS should be sufficient to hold these things in. I even tried inserting one while I was sitting in a chair, and it still fell out. My character must be really loose or something xP

 

From the CD thread, transforming into a werewolf does cause things to go screwy. I'll avoid it if I happen to be wearing any locked DD stuff.

[xTrogdorx]

Is there any explanation for what the polled events do? Some of them aren't obvious (finisher plug event? drip event? horny event? teaser event?)

[PheonixLord27]

Is there a way to force start the quest line after i download the mod? I opened the bookcase but the guy never talked to me, he also didnt have an option to talk to him about it.

[Mord Sif]

Is there any explanation for what the polled events do? Some of them aren't obvious (finisher plug event? drip event? horny event? teaser event?)

 

Many of them add text to the screen to add flavour. So you may get the message pop up that you feel lubrication running down your thigh, that kind of thing. There are ones for lots of things - like the posture collar forcing your chin up, the piercings keeping your nipples erect or chafing, etc. The horny event plays a short animation showing your character rubbing herself, sometimes giving herself a little spank, just bending over and wriggling a bit if wearing an armbinder, along with the text that you allow your hands to wander. I don't think I've had a teaser or finisher event happen yet, so I'm not sure about those. I'm going to play around with them later and see what happens.

 

Is there a way to force start the quest line after i download the mod? I opened the bookcase but the guy never talked to me, he also didnt have an option to talk to him about it.

 

Were you wearing any devices when you looted the bookcase? The quest won't start if you are. Try putting the Devious Devices book down and then picking it up again when not wearing devices.

[xTrogdorx]

I was just wondering why the probability for some of them defaults to 0. Do they interfere with combat if they trigger or?

[gustio]

Hi guys, 

 

I have a problem, I can´t start the quest because I have installed Immersive college of Winterhold it changes the look of the collage, I haven´t got the forbidden bookshelf in the library neither in any other part of the college. So I just wanted to ask if there is a cosole command for the bookshelf or the book itself. 

 

Any help is apreciated, thanks

[Deadly Kitten]

Hi guys, 

 

I have a problem, I can´t start the quest because I have installed Immersive college of Winterhold it changes the look of the collage, I haven´t got the forbidden bookshelf in the library neither in any other part of the college. So I just wanted to ask if there is a cosole command for the bookshelf or the book itself. 

 

Any help is apreciated, thanks

 

Someone mentioned you had to interact with the bookshelf from the side. Try that.

[Free2FlyX0]

Would definitely love to use this however once I have it installed it causes my game to crash before it even gets to the main menu, which really sucks, any suggestions on how I might be able to fix this?

[Coopervane]

Would definitely love to use this however once I have it installed it causes my game to crash before it even gets to the main menu, which really sucks, any suggestions on how I might be able to fix this?

 

You are missing a dependancy.

 

You need to make sure you have all the required mods installed and up to date (and put into a functional loadorder), else you get this crash on startup.

 

 

As a minimum, you'll need the latest versions of:

 

SKSE.

FNIS.

SkyUI.

Fus-Ro-D'oh.

Sexlab.

SL-Aroused (or SLA-Redux).

ZaZ Animation Pack.

DDa.

DDi.

 

If you wish to use DDx and it's dependant mods, you'll also need HDT-High Heel System.

 

If you are not sure how to deal with the loadorder, try Loot, it seems to do a good enough job of it.

[Free2FlyX0]

 

Would definitely love to use this however once I have it installed it causes my game to crash before it even gets to the main menu, which really sucks, any suggestions on how I might be able to fix this?

 

You are missing a dependancy.

 

You need to make sure you have all the required mods installed and up to date (and put into a functional loadorder), else you get this crash on startup.

 

 

As a minimum, you'll need the latest versions of:

 

SKSE.

FNIS.

SkyUI.

Fus-Ro-D'oh.

Sexlab.

SL-Aroused (or SLA-Redux).

ZaZ Animation Pack.

DDa.

DDi.

 

If you wish to use DDx and it's dependant mods, you'll also need HDT-High Heel System.

 

If you are not sure how to deal with the loadorder, try Loot, it seems to do a good enough job of it.

 

 

I've gone back and double checked that all the requirements are up to date and they are but my game still crashes right after the Bethesda logo, I have noticed then when I run FNIS before starting my game it lists Devious Devices Integration as 2.8.2 even though I have version 2.8.3 installed.

 

Edit: I also do use LOOT, since I'm not well versed in fixing my load order manually unless a mod author says otherwise in description/Installation.

[Coopervane]

The FNIS version mismatch is normal and no problem, Min simply forgot to update the reported version to 2.8.3. It's just text though, it has no impact on the game and is completely harmless.

 

 

Your crash is almost garuenteed to be caused by a missing dependancy though, a crash at the Bethesda logo always is (many other things can crash Skyrim, but only when the game has already loaded a save or when it is trying to do so, a crash at the splash logo is a missing dependancy).

 

And it need not be missing per se, just having something placed wrong in your loadorder can cause this problem, so you should probably start there, check that required mods are loaded before the mods that require them. And not just the DD ones, all your mods, if any one of them got bumped around to a wrong spot this error can happen.

[eggsalad]

Just a quick question, does the questline still force you to have non-belted sexual encounters to finish it? I need to know because RP reasons.

[Slorm]

Just a quick question, does the questline still force you to have non-belted sexual encounters to finish it? I need to know because RP reasons.

 

Yes with Urag at the end

 

[eggsalad]

 

Just a quick question, does the questline still force you to have non-belted sexual encounters to finish it? I need to know because RP reasons.

 

Yes with Urag at the end

 

 

 

Aw. I'm probably putting more into this than I should, but after spending so long remaining a virgin with the help of devious devices, managing to remain protected from bandits and immoral citizens, it feels like a waste to just throw it away for some old orc who wants a quick fuck.

[Slorm]

 

 

Just a quick question, does the questline still force you to have non-belted sexual encounters to finish it? I need to know because RP reasons.

 

Yes with Urag at the end

 

 

 

Aw. I'm probably putting more into this than I should, but after spending so long remaining a virgin with the help of devious devices, managing to remain protected from bandits and immoral citizens, it feels like a waste to just throw it away for some old orc who wants a quick fuck.

 

 

If you just want the skill to make keys and maintain roleplay, earn some gold and buy a chastity belt from Captured Dreams. The quest doesn't trigger if you're wearing a belt.

 

I've used this as a roleplay approach as you have to find the gold to buy the belt and then buy or make the key afterwards

 

[Free2FlyX0]

The FNIS version mismatch is normal and no problem, Min simply forgot to update the reported version to 2.8.3. It's just text though, it has no impact on the game and is completely harmless.

 

 

Your crash is almost garuenteed to be caused by a missing dependancy though, a crash at the Bethesda logo always is (many other things can crash Skyrim, but only when the game has already loaded a save or when it is trying to do so, a crash at the splash logo is a missing dependancy).

 

And it need not be missing per se, just having something placed wrong in your loadorder can cause this problem, so you should probably start there, check that required mods are loaded before the mods that require them. And not just the DD ones, all your mods, if any one of them got bumped around to a wrong spot this error can happen.

 

I've been messing around with the load order for a good while now and still get the same thing, even uninstalled all the mods and their requirements and the requirements of the requirements and still get the same thing, however when I completely uninstall anything related to devious devices my game starts right up no problem. It's got me really wracking my brain as I've downloaded everything where it was supposed to go. 

 

I kinda feel like I'm going in circles really, the only time I have issues is when I have DDa and DDi installed and as far as load order goes I've made sure that Devious Deviants is below the DDi mod, but still it continues to crash. 

[Coopervane]

I hate to say it, but the problem is there somewhere on your end (if it weren't, this thread would be awash with people reporting catastrophic crashes, and it has not been). Try reinstalling DD and it's dependancies, maybe something went wrong durring the install of something? It woulden't be the first time.

 

And if that doesen't work, then share your loadorder and maybe i or someone else can spot a problem there (though do prefably wrap the loadorder in spoiler tags, they do tend to be rather long walls of texts).

[eggsalad]

 

If you just want the skill to make keys and maintain roleplay, earn some gold and buy a chastity belt from Captured Dreams. The quest doesn't trigger if you're wearing a belt.

 

I've used this as a roleplay approach as you have to find the gold to buy the belt and then buy or make the key afterwards

 

 

 

 

Can't you also just steal the book undetected for that? Anyway, I do wanna finish the quest. I'm using the Aradia devices and heard that you need to finish the integration quest for an item that lets you do the final upgrade to them. Really cool idea, but some elements of the quest line are a little immersion breaking for someone using those devices.

[Slorm]

 

Can't you also just steal the book undetected for that? Anyway, I do wanna finish the quest. I'm using the Aradia devices and heard that you need to finish the integration quest for an item that lets you do the final upgrade to them. Really cool idea, but some elements of the quest line are a little immersion breaking for someone using those devices.

 

 

IIRC just stealing the book doesn't work it still gives you the mission though you can just ignore the dialogue line enquiring about the book when you need to speak to Urag. I thought it used to work but when I last tried it didn't even when I nicked it around 4am.

 

I don't know about the Aradia items as I've never used them

 

[Nalessa]

Is fus roh doh an actual requirement now for integration?

 

I thought it was only needed for the seperate dd mods like captured dreams for example (mainly for the punishment and tarvish scenes which will be really buggy if you don't have fus ro doh, the rest of captured dreams works fine without really needing it)

 

It should def not cause ctd on starting skyrim for ddi as far as I know, it should just make for buggy conversations/events with certain dd mods.

 

I'd also recommend uninstalling all mods you installed since you get ctd, run a savecleaner to be sure and start installing the latest version of all one by one.

 

Start with sexlab, then zaz animation, then sexlab related mods like aroused/submit/defeat/ whichever you need or want, then start with dd assets, then integration and then any optional ddx mods.

 

After installing each one go into skyrim and see if all is fine or not, then install the next mod, continue untill eventually you'll find the problem.

It's a bit tedious and requires some patience, but it makes sure you know which one is causing the ctd and makes it easier to resolve the problem.

[Coopervane]

Is fus roh doh an actual requirement now for integration?

 

Technically no, not as such. The game won't crash if you don't have it or anything like that.

 

But unvoiced dialog is used in the DDi quests, so those won't really be understandable without it, thus i very strongly recommend it to have everything working right. And of course, it's about as basic a mod as can be, so there's no harm in having it, it can only be a benit really.

[ichigo0987]

usualy when i get those crashes at the slpash screen andi can't find out what i'm missing i run Tes5edit since it says whats missing or in the wrong order

[Zirofal]

could soem one explain step 3 for instalation for me, i just started modding my skyrim and i am abit confused over how to "activate" the mods as nexus wont find them

[chance]

Since the latest update, having an armbinder equipped now generates an endless loop of the 'equip/unequip' sound. I'm not sure what's causing it, and it doesn't seem to matter what else you have equipped, even nothing at all. I do know that I'm about to go nuts if I keep hearing it though. x(

 

Any thoughts?