Piracy Rule Lax Now?

[Corrupted_Desire]

Keep seeing people posting asking for work arounds and free dlc for their games. I was under the assumption that was not allowed but ive seen 3/4 posts now of someone asking for dlc for a game. Is that no longer a strict requirement here?

[Sgt. Marge]

5 minutes ago, Corrupted_Desire said:

Keep seeing people posting asking for work arounds and free dlc for their games. I was under the assumption that was not allowed but ive seen 3/4 posts now of someone asking for dlc for a game. Is that no longer a strict requirement here?

 

Using the report button on those posts is probably the best answer.

 

You can find it here:

Edited June 7, 2023 by Sgt. Marge

[Corrupted_Desire]

Yeah looking closer despite being different accounts its the same message in each post so likely they have been banned before and keep creating new accounts.

[travelmedic]

It's still listed in the Community Rules (link lower left corner of the screen) as forbidden.

 

I've also seen people ask for help, but I would guess that 99.9% of the threads I've seen get shut down or ignored.

[MadMansGun]

all rules are still in effect, use the report button so staff can find & nuke the fuckers.

[Guest]

We do not support piracy. At all.

Please report such posts.

[Guest]

44 minutes ago, CPU said:

We do not support piracy. At all.

Please report such posts.

Considering the fact that piracy is illegal pretty much everywhere, I figured as much.

[espguy]

52 minutes ago, deadjester226 said:

Considering the fact that piracy is illegal pretty much everywhere, I figured as much.

The one place I can think in wich piracy is legal is Russia, but well its russia

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, espguy said:

The one place I can think in wich piracy is legal is Russia, but well its russia

Well, still. I think it's best to just not do that. You know what I mean?

[27X]

If you respect the author, don't be a dick.

 

Pretty cut and dried.

[fagmalgma]

1 hour ago, deadjester226 said:

Well, still. I think it's best to just not do that. You know what I mean?

its not legal in Russia, dont know why people think it is

[Alessia Wellington]

2 hours ago, fagmalgma said:

its not legal in Russia, dont know why people think it is

 

Probably 'cause quite a few piracy websites are hosted there?

[Guest]

6 hours ago, fagmalgma said:

its not legal in Russia, dont know why people think it is

I wasn't saying it was. I was saying that, even if it is legal somewhere, it doesn't mean that you should do it where it isn't.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Wow. All these fine upstanding citizens who have never broken a law. Never copied music; never exceeded the speed limit; never drunk alcohol before the legal age; never smoked pot; never stolen anything from work.

Well, seeing how all of my music on my devices was acquired through legally licensed services, I've never gotten a speeding ticket because I can actually read those signs with numbers labeled "Speed Limit", never done any drug in my life (tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, meth, cocaine, etc.), and that I respect my boss too much to steal from her, thanks!

[KoolHndLuke]

8 hours ago, deadjester226 said:

Considering the fact that piracy is illegal pretty much everywhere, I figured as much.

Everywhere? You clearly haven't been paying much attention since not only is it legal in some places... it's expected citing convenient ideological differences. Only defense we have against IP theft is to not share it on the internet. Even then it's not 100% 'safe'.

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by KoolHndLuke

[Guest]

59 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Everywhere? You clearly haven't been paying much attention since not only is it legal in some places... it's expected citing convenient ideological differences. Only defense we have against IP theft is to not share it on the internet. Even then it's not 100% 'safe'.

 

Please take note how I said "pretty much everywhere", which implies that I was referring to places that I know of.

[Psalam]

Let's not also forget - there is a difference between having a law and enforcing a law. Throughout the USA there is a federal law making the sale and possession of marijuana illegal. It is explicitly not enforced in those states which have passed laws making its use (medicinal or recreational) legal. The law still exists. It is simply not being enforced.

 

That being said, piracy is taken very seriously on LL. When the staff is made aware of it we act on it. However, as I've said before, regrettably, we can't be everywhere, all the time. So, we are heavily, almost completely, dependent on the Membership to Report violations of the Rules - including piracy.

[Evaloves4]

5 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Let's not also forget - there is a difference between having a law and enforcing a law. Throughout the USA there is a federal law making the sale and possession of marijuana illegal. It is explicitly not enforced in those states which have passed laws making its use (medicinal or recreational) legal. The law still exists. It is simply not being enforced.

 

That being said, piracy is taken very seriously on LL. When the staff is made aware of it we act on it. However, as I've said before, regrettably, we can't be everywhere, all the time. So, we are heavily, almost completely, dependent on the Membership to Report violations of the Rules - including piracy.

> I am curious how LL is dealing with plagiary? I know LL does not approve it, but how do you decide what is plagiary and what is not?

> I am sorry if my question isn't in the thread boundaries, but I somehow see it as similar as piracy.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Psalam said:

That being said, piracy is taken very seriously on LL. When the staff is made aware of it we act on it. However, as I've said before, regrettably, we can't be everywhere, all the time. So, we are heavily, almost completely, dependent on the Membership to Report violations of the Rules - including piracy.

If I may ask, why not hire more moderators to deal with rule violations more efficiently? I mean, that would help, wouldn't it?

[Psalam]

18 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said:

> I am curious how LL is dealing with plagiary? I know LL does not approve it, but how do you decide what is plagiary and what is not?

> I am sorry if my question isn't in the thread boundaries, but I somehow see it as similar as piracy.

Tough question. Ultimately, it is the decision of the Staff who is dealing with a Report. Personally, when making these decisions it can be very difficult. I need to balance the right of the original author against the possibility that someone else came up with the same, or similar, wording simultaneously. As is often the case, it is a question of balancing rights. This makes hard and fast rules difficult to come by.

 

3 minutes ago, deadjester226 said:

If I may ask, why not hire more moderators to deal with rule violations more efficiently? I mean, that would help, wouldn't it?

As of right now, Moderators are volunteers. That is, we're not "hired". Ashal chooses who's a candidate and asks them via PM (at least that's how she asked me). As with the answer given above, it becomes a question of balance. Sure, Ashal could get 100 Moderators on the site but then enforcement would be likely to vary widely across the board (since, as I've also mentioned, much of what we do is a judgement call). This would, then, give the Membership another reason to complain. "How come Moderator A said his work wasn't piracy and Moderator B says my work is piracy when I can't see a difference?" "Why does Moderator C have it in for me?"

[donttouchmethere]

33 minutes ago, Psalam said:

So, we are heavily, almost completely, dependent on the Membership to Report violations of the Rules - including piracy.

Suddenly I feel so much more important ?

[Evaloves4]

1 minute ago, donttouchmethere said:

Suddenly I feel so much more important ?

> because you are pirate?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Psalam said:

As of right now, Moderators are volunteers. That is, we're not "hired". Ashal chooses who's a candidate and asks them via PM (at least that's how she asked me). As with the answer given above, it becomes a question of balance. Sure, Ashal could get 100 Moderators on the site but then enforcement would be likely to vary widely across the board (since, as I've also mentioned, much of what we do is a judgement call). This would, then, give the Membership another reason to complain. "How come Moderator A said his work wasn't piracy and Moderator B says my work is piracy when I can't see a difference?" "Why does Moderator C have it in for me?"

Well, I'm not saying hire (I use the term "hire" figuratively) 100 moderators. Just hire enough so that way you guys have some of this strain taken off of you.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

No I'm not. As I said, I didn't direct my post at your virtue signalling in particular but you are quick to don the mantle of victim.

 

"Toxic" - another hyperbolic neologism. ?

You're just proving my point. Here you are, dragging this out and twisting words in order to start an argument. But you know what, I'm not playing your game. Knock it off before I do report you, because you are being toxic.

[Alessia Wellington]

28 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Suddenly I feel so much more important

 

You were always important.