Worst Death?

[AKM]

8 hours ago, Gukahn said:

I think burning alive also means your nerves will "Probably" be dead before you are, so you will stop feeling it.. Think poorest of people who die form it die from suffocating because of the gases . So you kinda get the worst of two deaths ?

 

 

Yep.  As far as burns go, what we used to call "First Degree", or the least burned, is like a really bad sunburn; serious reddening of the skin.  "Second Degree" forms blisters.  Been there, done that.  It hurts like you wouldn't believe.    Third degree is the worst/deepest, with blackened skin, where the skin is literally charred, and could go all the way down to bone.  This actually stops hurting because of the aforementioned fact that the nerves are dead, so there's nothing to scream at the brain that "Hey!  This hurts!"

As for suffocation, I think it would depend on what you're suffocating on.  THE killer in the vast majority of fires is not fire itself, but smoke inhalation.  Thing is, the smoke and gasses from a fire can be incredibly hot, and I imagine ending up in a scenario where you're literally burning your lungs, which I'm pretty sure you'd feel.  Additionally, if I remember correctly, part of the body's defenses going awry would result in pulmonary edema, that is: the buildup of fluid in your lungs.  It's your body literally drowning itself.  I don't remember why this happens, but you'd know what was happening (you just can't get enough oxygen in), even if you didn't know exactly why.

On the other hand, breathing air with low oxygen content would be a pretty painless way to die. You'd just get tired, possibly lightheaded, and then just "fade out", without the understanding of what was going on, or what the end result will almost certainly be.  Read any number of aviation articles about pilots/passengers flying too high for too long without oxygen and you'll find the recurring "off to dreamland with no ability to think about what's really going on" theme.

Generally speaking, the worst death is the one where you know you're going to die very soon, you are fully able to process it, and there's not a damn thing you can do to prevent it.  Falling to one's death would be a prime example thereof.

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte AKM:

Andererseits wäre das Einatmen von sauerstoffarmer Luft eine ziemlich schmerzlose Art zu sterben. Sie würden einfach müde, möglicherweise benommen und dann einfach „ausblenden“, ohne zu verstehen, was vor sich ging oder was das Endergebnis mit ziemlicher Sicherheit sein wird. Lesen Sie eine beliebige Anzahl von Luftfahrtartikeln über Piloten/Passagiere, die zu lange ohne Sauerstoff zu hoch fliegen, und Sie werden das wiederkehrende Thema „Abflug ins Traumland ohne Fähigkeit, darüber nachzudenken, was wirklich los ist“ finden.

Im Allgemeinen ist der schlimmste Tod derjenige, bei dem Sie wissen, sterben werden dass Sie sehr bald , Sie vollständig in der Lage sind, ihn zu verarbeiten, und es gibt verdammt noch mal nichts, was Sie tun können, um ihn zu verhindern. Der Sturz in den Tod wäre ein Paradebeispiel dafür.

 

It is less the low oxygen content that leads to death - but the excessive CO2 content.

Inhaled air usually has 20% oxygen (at normal ambient pressure and sea level)

In emergency medicine, people are resuscitated with exhaled air - which only has 16% oxygen - using mouth-to-mouth resuscitation

Mountaineers can climb to heights of 6,000-7,000 meters without oxygen equipment - the air then only has 1/3 of the O2 molecules compared to sea level.
Yes - altitude sickness does occur - but it can also start at 3,000 meters.

However, the biological tolerance of humans to a low O2 content in the breathing air is considerable.

But what leads to suffocation in hermetic boxes is something completely different -> the CO2 content!

Yes - the exhaled air contains 4% CO2 and for the emergency measure of resuscitation by mouth-to-mouth resuscitation the body can tolerate that...

...but several hours at 1% CO2 in the air you breathe -> you are dead
you fall asleep peacefully and that's it

The classic suffocation caused by leaking chimneys in combustion heaters is NOT based on too much CO2 - but on -> CO (carbon monoxide)
This works in significantly lower doses than respiratory poison - it blocks the oxygen docking stations of the red blood cells

The CO is also very dangerous for us divers - who work with compressed air - the compressors for filling the diving tanks are usually operated with combustion engines - their exhaust gases also contain CO

at normal ambient pressure the concentration is harmless - but if this gets into the bottle the hyper-baric environment leads to a now lethal concentration at depths below 20 meters

I've felt the same way before - but fortunately the poisoning sets in slowly - there are warning signs ... we (as a group) were able to show up in time ... our purple-colored lips were a clear sign of CO poisoning

Divers are affected even more frequently - who are supplied by breathing hoses from the surface - the compressor is practically on the boat and when the wind direction changes...

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In the context of how much air you need and when you die from something (i.e. lack of oxygen or CO2 overdose), it is always interesting when life support fails on a spaceship (like the Enterprice).

As an example:
The amount of air in a phone booth is about 2m³ - it is pressed into a 10 liter diving bottle - so it has about 200 bar pressure at the valve
With it I can dive under water at a depth of 10 meters for about 2 hours - i.e. swim very slowly.

The volume of my living room - 50m³ - is enough for almost 2 days for me alone.

But that is only the aspect of the oxygen requirement - of course it does NOT look so good with the CO2 concentration...
...1% in the living room would be 500 liters volume - you would reach that in about 7 hours if you breathe normally and the room is hermetically sealed

Well - the room volume of the Enterprice's command bridge alone would be enough for .... days
(I won't continue this here...)

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Air requirement - concentrations of gases etc. are not only important for recreational or professional divers - but also for engineers who plan systems for the ventilation of living and working rooms (which was my job for more than 15 years)

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[KoolHndLuke]

4 hours ago, Miauzi said:

Air requirement - concentrations of gases etc. are not only important for recreational or professional divers - but also for engineers who plan systems for the ventilation of living and working rooms (which was my job for more than 15 years)

Interesting. My gf dived for many, many years all over the world and told me some things. She had hoped to take me diving with her, but it never materialized and now, I sort of want to at least do it once. We had underwater welders at a few locations and I always shuddered at the thought since that's not exactly a "safe" job, lol.

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte KoolHndLuke:

Interessant. Meine Freundin ist viele, viele Jahre auf der ganzen Welt getaucht und hat mir einiges erzählt. Sie hatte gehofft, mich zum Tauchen mitzunehmen, aber es hat sich nie ergeben, und jetzt möchte ich es zumindest einmal tun. Wir hatten an einigen Stellen Unterwasser-Schweißer und bei dem Gedanken daran hat es mich immer geschaudert, denn das ist nicht gerade ein "sicherer" Job, lol.

The son of my long-term company partner worked for a number of years in the team of an industrial diver.

After a few years in the offshore industry (drilling platforms - operations to a depth of less than 200 meters), he had "quit" there - his buddy had been incorrectly decompressed during an operation (to a depth of 170 meters) and had suffered a stroke...

...he now only did inland operations - this included welding and flame-cutting as well as blasting

 

that we scuba divers go into the water for fun - he didn't really understand that...

...he looked at colorful fish and corals in marine aquariums.

 

[Grey Cloud]

Strictly speaking, what is being discussed in this thread is not death but various ways of dying. In other words, the journey and not the destination.

[spoonsinger]

There was a grusome method of execution in the book the "Secret of the Sixth Magic" where 'criminals', on mass , were put into a big box in the centre of the market place. The lid closed. Then every few minutes the box magically halved in volumn. Always struck me as an iccky way to go.

[2dk2c.2]

really random movie I think I saw on OTA TV, a man is dropped onto a pointy pole, bottom first, and the movie does a closeup of his head, with the pole coming out of his mouth.

This illustrated something (just don't know what), and it was topped (maybe) by this nice horse being sliced up, for random reasons.

 

G-type movie of people being dropped into volcanos comes to mind.
Death is a good movie plot.

 

[DocClox]

8 hours ago, Doctor Cadaver said:

I definitely believe that there are fates worse than death

 

Being forced to watch the last episode of She Hulk over and over again?

[KoolHndLuke]

12 hours ago, DocClox said:

 

Being forced to watch the last episode of She Hulk over and over again?

Sort of like some blob thing attaching itself to your head and sucking your brains out slowly (or that scene in Scanners).

 

Do they even realize that most of the shit they're releasing now make movies that were utterly forgettable just a few years ago look like timeless classics now? At this rate, we'll be watching She Hulk ten years from now and be wondering why it didn't sweep the Oscars because it was so brilliant! 

 

 

Edited March 17, 2023 by KoolHndLuke

[2dk2c.2]

44 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Sort of like some blob thing attaching itself to your head and sucking your brains out slowly (or that scene in Scanners).

 

Do they even realize that most of the shit they're releasing now make movies that were utterly forgettable just a few years ago look like timeless classics now? At this rate, we'll be watching She Hulk ten years from now and be wondering why it didn't sweep the Oscars because it was so brilliant! 

 

 

Caption should read "She hulk was brilliant"

 

 

 

Please ignore the twisted-fuk picture below, or admire death and friend, I don't know.

Edited March 17, 2023 by 2dk2c.2

[beefers]

dying from dehydration is said to be one of the worst deaths a human can suffer through because it takes so long and you feel every second of it.  Add to that the psychological effect of knowing you're going to die horribly.

 

Sleep deprivation is also another terrible way to die.

[Vyru]

Anything that doesn't involve facesitting or being choked by a pair of thicc thighs ?

[Vader666]

Does necrosis due to frostbite spread ?

If so, i'd pick that.

You could literally see yourself go piece by piece.

 

If that doesn't count i'm going to cheat and pick aging.

 

- it's very slow

- it's inevitable

- you know it's inevitable and happening

- at some point it starts to hurt

- it slowly incapacitates you

- it's killing your body as well as your mind

- before it kills your body it kills your dignity

[Mez558]

 

This would have to rate up near the top, I think.

Edited April 8, 2023 by Mez558

[DrunkenCow]

On 3/16/2023 at 9:31 AM, DocClox said:

 

Being forced to watch the last episode of She Hulk over and over again?

 

I'll see you that and raise you ten years of a new Harry Potter series on HBO Max.  

 

Do you hear that?  That's the twitterati calling out in pain and anguish.

[Guest]

On 3/16/2023 at 5:58 AM, Grey Cloud said:

not the destination.

How do you know the destination isn't the most painful Death imaginable?

On 3/16/2023 at 8:31 AM, DocClox said:

Being forced to watch the last episode of She Hulk over and over again?

Or Any episode of She Hulk! And I like the Hulk comics/movies.

[Guest]

The Viking Blood Eagle would be at the top of my list.

The Viking Blood Eagle

[Grey Cloud]

33 minutes ago, Sir Bron said:

How do you know the destination isn't the most painful Death imaginable?

Dying is not death.

[DocClox]

1 hour ago, Sir Bron said:

Or Any episode of She Hulk! And I like the Hulk comics/movies.

 

Likewise. I even like she She Hulk comics. Well, Byrne's run anyway. I've not been impressed with the Stupid She-Hulk that turned up towards the end of Immortal Hulk.

 

One day, people are going to realize that, if you're doing an adaptation, the best thing probably is not to hire writers who despise the source medium and it's fans. Maybe I'll not hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

[Guest]

Probably being impaled. If you've never heard of Vlad the Impaler, he would take a large wooden stake, slowly insert them into the anus of his victims, stand them up, and watch as the victim slowly slid down the stake. That is, at least, one of the worst ways to die that I can think of.

[Alessia Wellington]

4 minutes ago, deadjester226 said:

Vlad the Impaler, he would take a large wooden stake, slowly insert them into the anus of his victims, stand them up, and watch as the victim slowly slid down the stake.

 

And listening to 

 

Spoiler

[KoolHndLuke]

On 4/8/2023 at 4:59 AM, Mez558 said:

This would have to rate up near the top, I think.

Christ.. you just reminded me why I couldn't get out of the oilfield business fast enough. Hundreds of stories like that (maybe thousands). All the big execs care about is making as much money as possible and they don't care who gets hurt or dies. When you can't trust people to watch your back, it's time to go somewhere else.

[Guest]

On 4/16/2023 at 8:16 AM, Sir Bron said:

The Viking Blood Eagle would be at the top of my list.

The Viking Blood Eagle

What nobody had anything to say about this form of death, or because it does not happen now?

 

There are many accidents that lead to suffocation, burning, drowning etc, not a good way to go. 

Edited April 17, 2023 by Sir Bron

[Darkpig]

Sonic's death where he doesn't actually die is the worst kind of death. Guess Sega won't be putting down their pet hedgehog any time soon.

[beefers]

being burried alive would be terrifying because you'd basically die from dehydration but be in hopeless despair the entire time.