KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Been working on a mod that more accurately portrays fire damage in my game because enemies taking no notice of BEING ON FUCKING FIRE!!!! really bothers me. I mean.... it's painful to be set aflame and I know we can all relate because we've all been burned before. Not only that, it causes people to panic. The mind just goes into frenzy and the overriding priority is getting that shit dealt with. However, while thinking about this... I couldn't help but wonder what burning alive even feels like? For some reason, I think drowning would be worse for me (something else most of us might have experienced). So now I'm curious and am asking: What's the worst possible way to die you think? Please understand that I'm not making light of anyone's tragic situation if they are dying. You have my sympathies of course. This is more meant in an abstract way, one to be considered more from a gamer's perspective. If the mods feel that this subject is too controversial, then I understand. ? Edited March 15, 2023 by KoolHndLuke
Gukahn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 I think burning alive also means your nerves will "Probably" be dead before you are, so you will stop feeling it.. Think poorest of people who die form it die from suffocating because of the gases . So you kinda get the worst of two deaths ? That said.. being eaten alive by a hyena sounds worse at least you burn quickly 2
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Gukahn said: being eaten alive by a hyena sounds worse at least you burn quickly True... and I thought of that. I actually didn't mention it since it scares the shit outta me! Edited March 15, 2023 by KoolHndLuke 1
Miauzi Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Vor 54 Minuten sagte Gukahn: Ich denke, lebendiges Verbrennen bedeutet auch, dass Ihre Nerven "wahrscheinlich" tot sind, bevor Sie es sind, also werden Sie aufhören, es zu fühlen. Denken Sie an die ärmsten Menschen, die daran sterben, weil sie aufgrund der Gase ersticken. Also bekommst du irgendwie den schlimmsten von zwei Todesfällen ? Das gesagt.. von einer Hyäne lebendig gefressen zu werden klingt schlimmer, zumindest verbrennt man schnell The classic is burning on a pyre. However, as portrayed in most of the films... the victims suffocated (from the smoke) before they were seriously injured by the fire. The inquisitors or the responsible executioners had to keep the fire very small so that suffocation did not set in first. Strictly speaking, the person dies either from the pain (from the shock) when his feet slowly turn to coal - if he is "unlucky" he faints (pain shutdown in the brain). In order for a person to actually die as a result of a fire from burns, you even have to extinguish the fire or get him out of the immediate flames ... (I won't go into this further here) Where do you know something like that from... now as an engineer for the technical systems in the building, the field of "fire protection" is also part of it... how fire (and smoke) affects people are important basics for understanding certain things. 1
Gukahn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Miauzi said: Strictly speaking, the person dies either from the pain (from the shock) when his feet slowly turn to coal - if he is "unlucky" he faints (pain shutdown in the brain). We humans are sick fucks.. We really are ? 1
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, Gukahn said: We humans are sick fucks.. We really are ? But fascinating at the same time. I remember an old Twilight Zone episode in which a guy is obsessed with killing bugs (hates them). But the tables turn somehow and he gets swarmed by cockroaches and eaten alive. That couldn't have been fun.
Gukahn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: I remember an old Twilight Zone episode in which a guy is obsessed with killing bugs (hates them). But the tables turn somehow and he gets swarmed by cockroaches and eaten alive. That couldn't have been fun. Like in the Mummy movie with brandon frasher, the something something Bugs eating their way under his skin and start eating that one guy.. I watched that film when I was a kid, I was scared shitless ? 1
2dk2c.2 Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: But fascinating at the same time. I remember an old Twilight Zone episode in which a guy is obsessed with killing bugs (hates them). But the tables turn somehow and he gets swarmed by cockroaches and eaten alive. That couldn't have been fun. creepshow, some movie no one prolly remembers except for EG Marshall And zombie movies (Pick one) where you get eaten, or just wounded and addicted to brains. Or the middle ages covered this nicely, or switch to modern times (waterboarding) which isn't usually fatal (I proactively type) but then again... 1
Grey Cloud Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 What about a fate worse than a fate worse than death? ? I recently read something where one person threatened to sneak into another person's house each night to leave a grain of sand until the victim succumbed to the desert. ? 1
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, 2dk2c.2 said: creepshow, some movie no one prolly remembers except for EG Marshall Thought it might be. Meh.... too many memories.
woodsman30 Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Going with death by taxes it takes years to suck the life right out of you. 1
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: What about a fate worse than a fate worse than death? That.... I'm not sure I want to hear about. Might give me nightmares, lol.
Gukahn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: What about a fate worse than a fate worse than death? ? I recently read something where one person threatened to sneak into another person's house each night to leave a grain of sand until the victim succumbed to the desert. ? that sounds like something Terry pratchett would write ?
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Buried alive and waking up in time to realize your predicament and suffocate to death in a coffin while losing your fucking mind (Kill Bill vol. 2). Worst death eva? Edited March 15, 2023 by KoolHndLuke
Miauzi Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Vor 4 Minuten sagte KoolHndLuke: Lebendig begraben und rechtzeitig aufgewacht, um Ihre missliche Lage zu erkennen und zu ersticken, während Sie Ihren verdammten Verstand verlieren (Kill Bill Vol. 2). Schlimmste Todes-Eva? That's what people in the "West" (i.e. Europe and North America) were most afraid of at the end of the 19th century... That's why many things were invented or "tinkered" - such as small bell systems that led into the coffin and enabled the NON-dead waking up there to make themselves noticed ... ...or air tubes - so that they don't suffocate etc. etc. At that time, the pathologists or undertakers could not examine whether there was only an "apparent death" instead of a real death... ..because feeling the pulse or heartbeat with your fingers is NOT enough. 2
Gukahn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: Buried alive and waking up in time to realize your predicament and suffocate to death while losing your fucking mind (Kill Bill vol. 2). Worst death eva? Would you really wake up if you'r short from dying? I mean the whole point in suffocating or drowning is, that you lose consciousness before it really kills you. It isn't pleasant and suffocating is probably one of the worst deaths possible and painful I am sure, but nah it's just that. Suffocating with an extra. I would say starvation is worse than that. You feel it for days until it finally kills you. You get mad by it also and start eating dirt and other stuff just to fill your belly and you'll still die from it. Thirst might be on the same level. But I'm a first world person, never felt hunger or thirst big enough to imagine dying by it. 1
Gukahn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 And since I almost suffocated a few times... Its not a fun experience but I kinda lost the fear of it 1
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gukahn said: But I'm a first world person, never felt hunger or thirst big enough to imagine dying by it. Would have to agree about it being worse. I've been closer than I'd like a few times. Never suffocated... much. Edited March 15, 2023 by KoolHndLuke 1
Miauzi Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 almost drowned about 20 years ago while diving in the "Baltic Sea" at a depth of 50 meters... ..we tried to find a 100 meter long shipwreck - only from a depth of 30 meters the water was already black as night (at 12 noon and a cloudless sky!) despite the very powerful diving lamp, visibility on the ground was less than 3-4 meters from 35 meters creeping deep intoxication (due to the nitrogen in the compressed air) I wanted to look for the ship down there - such a huge part must be somewhere - after all it was located by sonar from the diving ship and marked with a ground buoy. only the current has moved this buoy and when we arrived as a 4th team of 2 - it was already at least 20 meters away from the ship's wall I could have searched there for an hour and wouldn't have found anything - because I just didn't know in which direction I should have swim... ..and the deep rush eliminated all risk assessment factors... ...because for 1 min on the ground at least 5-10 min intermediate stop for the necessary decompression. My exchange partner saved me - in other words, he forced me to "break off" the diving process and ascend together with him - another 5 minutes down there and there would not have been enough time for decompression in the bottle! With a less experienced partner - he had 800 dives - over 150 of them at great depths - we would have swum around down there and... (I'll give you the rest) ? 2
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Working on an oil rig jacked 30 m (about 100 ft.) off the sea with a hurricane coming in and rain already starting to fall in sheets, I and my crew were tasked with moving pipes from one location to another as quickly as we could as time was of the essence. I almost fell to my death (probably) one time and was almost crushed to death instantly by cargo that broke loose while moving it. I only dodged it at the last second they told me. But to be honest.... those were good ways to die imo. Doing necessary dangerous work and having to be quick in reaction and reflexes to survive. But I would imagine that a great many people have died from inexperience and/or ignorance- never knowing what hit them. Forgive a little bit of boasting and chest thumping there. I am proud of a few things I've handled in my life. Edited March 15, 2023 by KoolHndLuke 1
Grey Cloud Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KoolHndLuke said: That.... I'm not sure I want to hear about. Might give me nightmares, lol. It's from Naked Gun so the only danger is that you might die laughing. ? 1 hour ago, Gukahn said: that sounds like something Terry pratchett would write It does but it wasn't. Pratchett was the best English author of the 20th century IMO. ? Death is one of his most popular characters so we are still on topic. ? Edited March 15, 2023 by Grey Cloud 2
KoolHndLuke Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 Singled out of the crowd and hunted like a dog? Nah. I would fucking love those odds!!!!
Gukahn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Pratchett was the best English author of the 20th century IMO. ? Hard to understand sometimes (for me that is) but I did enjoy a few of his books^^
Miauzi Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Vor 1 Stunde sagte Gukahn: Manchmal schwer zu verstehen (für mich jedenfalls), aber ein paar seiner Bücher haben mir gefallen^^ It's British and therefore very "black" humor... ...and it's a comprehensive parody of virtually everything that makes up "fantasy" today - not a single thing left out. His typical style of parodying these clichés (e.g. dwarves always sing about gold - but only when they're far from home) through massive exaggeration isn't to everyone's taste in his later novels, he transfers these stylistic devices to modern phenomena - such as banking, railways, postal services or long-distance data transmission ("Klacker-Towers" - they've been around since the beginning of the 19th century!) critically about their effect on society questioning well - my personal favorite is -> DEATH already iconic - how he "throws up" his job and takes vacation .... ...his self-discovery trip trying to understand what "forgetting" is (alcohol is supposed to help - but the landlord in the "Mended Drum" doesn't have a schnapps that's strong enough) ? --- axo - by the way, vampires mostly work as lawyers - because they are so stylishly dressed and have such an elegant charisma (quite the Count Dracula by Chirstofer Lee) the only one who has a bit of professional problems - is the vampire who works as a photographer for a local newspaper in "Ank-Morpok"... ...the flash often turns him to dust - but he has a set for his revival ? Edited March 15, 2023 by Miauzi
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