Mud Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Perhaps it's chalked up to bad shots - none of that was noticeable in previous screens like on page 48 of the thread. Which eye texture is that one, though?
Mud Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Hmm, very interesting... the ol' duct tape hand is itching... By the way, does anyone have any good suggestions for Neptune's hair? The closest style I've found so far is one of the Apachii styles, and it really is quite close, but it also seems a bit too boyish... This is her current hair:
PsychoMachina Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 I don't know of any hair mods that has hair exactly like that. The "forbidden" hairs has a few close to it, but they don't perfectly fit Elin 1.4 and I've had limited success fixing the clippings. Have you looked at zzShop?
Mud Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Hmm... I do have "that" hair mod lying around, but haven't actually made use of it. Might be worth a look, but then that sure is a lot of hair to dig through... I don't see anything in zzShop that looks closer to Nep's hair than that Apachii hair. I don't suppose it'd be a simple task for me to just make the hair a little... bigger?
PsychoMachina Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 Did you check Oblivian hairstyles? I don't have any screenshots, but it doesn't matter because, like "those" hairs, they're problematic with Elin 1.4. Elin 2 has better results. EDIT I'll have to test Oblivian hairs again with Elin 1.4 using the alt head morphs. Something to put on my To Do list.
Mud Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 I do see a couple of hairs in "the pack" that could feasibly work, assuming they don't clip too horribly, but nothing with the specific combo of unkempt hair with bangs and hair on the sides of the face like Apachii 33 achieves. I'll have to see how Nep looks in-game before making my final judgment, though. It'd be perfect if the hair in back were just a little longer. Too much on my plate to figure out messing with tris in Blender or 3dsMax right now, though.
xenic Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 I remember a mod that added npc elins in the cities (or maybe just whiterun). Is that mod on this thread somewhere?
Mud Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 That would be Elin Followers and NPC under Additions on the first page, I believe. It adds Elin to some leveled lists too though, so be prepared to be forced to kill some adorable little psychopaths who just wanted to gut you and take all of your possessions. Y'know, typical cutesy things. Hnn... I need to find some cute-looking heavy armor for Nep to wear, if I'm gonna make her proficient in bows, greatswords, and heavy armor... aside from the stuff included in the Fox Shop mod, the only heavy armors I have are sexy ones and the only cute gear I have is clothing or light armor...
PsychoMachina Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 Osare Culort comes with heavy armor options. Another cute outfit is Patchwork Maiden by Osare, but I think it's only light armor. There is also JackGa and Neovinci. They have some cute outfits. On a different topic, HydrogensaysHDT has released a fix for sitting animations. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53995/? Had a quick look and it works even with NPCs.
Mud Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Huh, interesting. Wasn't expecting that use for HDT. Though I don't have any issues with sitting in chairs, I do get heavy clipping on carriages. Does it work for that, too? As for Nep's armor, I was thinking something brighter-colored. I'm realizing now why all my heavy armors are sexy ones - it's hard to find anything that's cute instead of sexy! I'll probably have to just go with one of the Elin armors.
xheren Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Any ETA on when you plan to combine the Hair packs with the main elinrace.esm? Figured it'd be worth asking since skyrim is really picky with where the hair .esps are in the load order, soo it'd probably make things a ton easier to do as far as redoing all the npcs on the npc expansion list. Also if you plan on combining the hairs into the .esm then I'd have to redo all the list later anyway (not a fan of unnecessary .esps in load).
PsychoMachina Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 I'll try to have something ready by the weekend. Unless someone asks for help with something then the all-in-one hair pack will take a little longer (I'm about ready to shut off private messaging and never look back).
Andrew1711 Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 I was heading out of Dawnstar when I came across a woman. upon talking to her there was a selection to play a song with her and the choices was one (name of song) I play flute and (other song name) I play lute I picked one then nothing happened. she just walked off, but I couldn't move. To fix this I had to go into my console and do the tc on my character. so it was like selecting one of those put my character into AI mode.
StitchDA Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 Is there a specific way to install the unp skin for elins? I have unp installed and I unpacked the textures folder right to the data folder for skyrim but the elins still have the default skin.
PsychoMachina Posted May 14, 2014 Author Posted May 14, 2014 Is there a specific way to install the unp skin for elins? I have unp installed and I unpacked the textures folder right to the data folder for skyrim but the elins still have the default skin. UNP textures from the UNP texture pack? Manually installing? First and foremost make sure you installed the core UNP files from the New Elin Bodies - BBP-TBBP pack. Second, just choose a texture from the UNP texture pack and copy/paste the Texture folder to your Data folder. Allow overwriting of files if prompted. Third, don't forget about the "ElinRace - Use UNP BBP Body.esp" that is part of the core UNP files. If you don't see it in your load order, reinstall the files in the "00 UNP Core" folder. Activate the plugin and, if needed, adjust it's position in the load order.
PsychoMachina Posted May 14, 2014 Author Posted May 14, 2014 REMOVED === Merged Hair Packs - Testers Only === Here are the unofficial merged hair packs. I did not merged them with the Elin race master file rather they are separate master files. IMPORTANT Not for everyone. These will be officially released with Elin v2. If you install these hair packs now, the Elin NPCs will have bald heads. They will appear when customizing your playable Elin. INSTALLATION Manual Install Only. Each hair packs also contain the loose meshes and textures. Install these files if you are having problems with the BSA files. Both hair packs contain master files; no plugins. For Elin-Apachii hairs 1.3. Without the alt head parts there will be glitches with the forsworn and bandana hairs. With the alt head morphs, only the bandanas will have some minor clipping. ================================================ Merged Hair Pack #1 = ElinRace Hairs AIO (about 180 hairs) Contains: ElinRaceTaint. Cazy Demoness Sims (zzjay) CCC Newsea J Hairs Inphy Sims Morten hairs 1+2 NO APACHII HAIRS =============================================== Merged Hair Pack #2 = ElinRace Hairs AIO - Apachii Hairs (about 86 hairs) REQUIREMENTS Apachii hairs 1.3 and 1.5Contains: Apachii 1.3 (Elin files only). Apachii 1.5 (Elin files only). Alternative Elin head files for certain Apachii 1.3 hairs. There are still some clipping with the bandanas. I should have that fixed when released with Elin v2.
Andrew1711 Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 will installing the Children of the Sky NPCs conflict with the Elin NPC mod?
PsychoMachina Posted May 15, 2014 Author Posted May 15, 2014 The original CotS will have conflicts, particularly when installing the Elin UNP body. I don't know about Skykids or RCotS. Any mods that serves the same purpose (i.e. npc replacers) there will be conflicts. Think about it, if Mod A changes the same npcs as Mod B, how can both work. One will have to override the other or there will be glitches or crashes.
xheren Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Is this format of having the hairs conglomerated into one .esm apart from the elinracetaint.esm/elinrace.esm how you plan to implement the merged hair packs? If so, I'll get to work on the npc-addon .esps. If not, lemme know and I'll wait till you combine them with the other .esm's.
PsychoMachina Posted May 16, 2014 Author Posted May 16, 2014 I'm keeping the merged hairs as a separate master file. I had some difficulties during the merging process with TES5edit causing errors so I had to add the hairs using CK. However, CK has a tendency to bug-out when editing large number of records in one session. So I went with creating a hair master file instead of merging everything in the Elin master. At least, when using CK, I don't have to change the Form IDs. I'm waiting for permission from Apachii to include the assets from Apachii hairs 1.4 and 1.5 (1.4 is an update to 1.3). If he gives permission then I'll add the Elin-Apachii hairs to the AIO master; if he does not give permission then I'll keep the Elin-Apachii hairs a separate mod with the original Apachii mods as requirements. The Elin-Apachii hairs will be the only update so go ahead and use the first AIO files, but not the Elin-Apachii AIO.
Mud Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 Hmm... as I feared, this Apachii hair just isn't cute enough for Nep. Troubling. I wonder what else could work... hrm.
PsychoMachina Posted May 17, 2014 Author Posted May 17, 2014 Great news, I got permission from Apachii to include her Apachii hairs with the Elin hair packs. I'll start work on an official release of the merged hairs with options. @xheren I'll try to retain the Form IDs of the the non-Apachii hairs when adding the Apachii hairs. If you did not use the Elin-Apachii merged mod then there will not be any problems using the new merged hairs. EDIT In fact, Apachii v1.4 will require the alt Elin head files to reduce the clipping issues. For Elin v2 that would not be an issue, but for Elin v1.4, that would cause the Elin NPCs to have dark faces. I have not decided whether to go ahead and merge Elin-Apachii 1.4 with 1.5 or keep them separate. I just may go ahead and merge them. @everyone else Apachii v1.4 will be replacing v1.3. Hmm... as I feared, this Apachii hair just isn't cute enough for Nep. Troubling. I wonder what else could work... hrm. Maybe hair #06?
Mud Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 DAH. I found a character whose voice clips' personality seems to fit my customized Cirno fairy perfectly, but... cripes, it's so high and shrill I think my eardrums shriveled up. Wait. That's it. That's why. I think this is Flonne's voice actor. But even MORE high-pitched than her Flonne voice! I didn't think that was possible! Yeeeeep. It's Sandy Fox, alright. Hmm, ApachiiFemale 6 ain't bad at all. Thanks for the suggestion, PM!
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