PsychoMachina Posted April 17, 2014 Author Posted April 17, 2014 Â Maybe I should proceed with Girls of Tera and add Elin 2...or maybe make Girls of Tera more human-like which would mean Elin 2 is released separately, more of an update of sorts to Elin 1. Â
xheren Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 I hate to be that guy >_>... But the ElinHair 6b is supposed to have bunny ears/hair (modified version of 6 which is long hair with bunny ears). Now it seems to be another fox type completely. I've been waiting on the fix to compile a load out of the elin npc add-ons with decent non nord hairs. Is there anyway I could get you to fix it again? Or give me a quick tutorial on how to fix it myself? Â Again, I appreciate all the hard work on your part. Thanks.
PsychoMachina Posted April 18, 2014 Author Posted April 18, 2014 My mistake. I made the correction and now Hair 6B has the bunny set.      UPDATE - 2014 April 18 FIX #2 Corrected Elin Hair 6B - changed from Fox set (mistake) to Bunny set (originally intended). 2014Apr18-FIX ElinHair6B BunnySet-ElinRaceTaint.7z     Â
PsychoMachina Posted April 18, 2014 Author Posted April 18, 2014 UPDATE #2 - 2014 April 18 FIX #2A  I went ahead and fixed the alternative ElinRaceTaint.esm that you install with the Elin NPC and Enemy mod. Corrected ElinHair #6B (changed to Bunny set). Added all missing Ram tails.  ElinRaceTaint.esm - Install only if you installed Elin NPC and Enemy mod.2014Apr18-ElinRaceTaint_Elin NPC-Corrected Ear-Tail Sets+Add Ram Tails.7z   Â
Mud Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Mrrh... I keep getting severe uncanny valley feels from these shots of Elin 2. Something just strikes me as off about them. The mouth? The cheeks? Might be the cheeks, and how... flat they are.
xheren Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 That was an amazingly fast fix. Thank you. Now I'll be busy coasting through those rosters for the better part of a weekend... I'll take care of the two smaller List first (NPC & Enemy) and post em before I go through the monster that is the extended list. Or, would it be prefered if the New NPC list is done as well and just delete the redundant npcs off of the extended list? I feel as if though if things go wrong, it'd be better to have those 'new' town npcs and such on their own esp. Â Â P.S. I feel ya Mud, personally gunning for the Elin1.5 release.
PsychoMachina Posted April 19, 2014 Author Posted April 19, 2014 Different people have different preferences. The problem is different people have different preferences. I have been asked if I can make a less anime-looking Elin as some people have expressed a dislike for the cartoonish look. Then there are those who prefer the Elins as-is. Some people want TBBP/HDT bodies with all the latest bounce while some prefer the Tera Body. Some people want less plugins/master files, some want adult/teens/child/femboy Elins.  I can only do so much with what little time I have for these things.
xheren Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Hey, know that your work is appreciated and that above all it's your operation. I'll happily standby if you feel like other parts of your projects deserve more attention than the part I specifically want. Don't let any of us rush you into half assing anything.
Mud Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Right, I'm not pushing for the Elin 2 to be changed right now or anything, I'm just trying to give some artistic input, but I just can't quite pinpoint what it is that feels off about them. It could be that the mouths are too small, it could be that they could use some more discernible cheekbones to look more human, seeing as the goal is to make them a hybrid of the anime and realistic styles. Â Â One way or another, I'm happy if they're cute, at the end of the day.
Mud Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 I don't see any reason that wouldn't be compatible, though it seems pretty obsolete. ECE already has a height slider built in, and the full-size Elin skeleton option is only ever-so-slightly shorter than a female Breton, anyway. Someone who doesn't like the Elin's size probably has more of an issue with their head/torso proportions, and the only way to address those is with a big overhaul to their looks like what PM's been trying to create as alternative options.
SSmotzer Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 I am as much a Skyrim fan as any, but the Tales of Two Wastelands mod for Fallout New Vegas just got some major patch fixes and I miss killing creatures with my cute little bunny ears. So, I was wondering if you could possibly port this race to Fallout New Vegas. Cause it would be adorable to walk around in a little dapper suit and punch super mutants as an Elin.
xheren Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Heya, I'm still getting the fox combo for hair 6b in game and in creation kit... I'm using the 2A patch you released (the .esm needed for npc add-ons). Â EDIT: just for clarification, I checked and made sure i downloaded the 2A patch and manually threw it into the data folder. And apologies for nagging you on this point >_<;
PsychoMachina Posted April 19, 2014 Author Posted April 19, 2014 I am as much a Skyrim fan as any, but the Tales of Two Wastelands mod for Fallout New Vegas just got some major patch fixes and I miss killing creatures with my cute little bunny ears. So, I was wondering if you could possibly port this race to Fallout New Vegas. Cause it would be adorable to walk around in a little dapper suit and punch super mutants as an Elin.  I'll have to decline, sorry.  Heya, I'm still getting the fox combo for hair 6b in game and in creation kit... I'm using the 2A patch you released (the .esm needed for npc add-ons).  EDIT: just for clarification, I checked and made sure i downloaded the 2A patch and manually threw it into the data folder. And apologies for nagging you on this point >_<;  I'm getting the same problem. What is strange is that the correct (bunny) ears/tails appeared in-game yesterday, but today they show up as the fox ears/tail. I checked both versions of ElinRaceTaint from the main pack and Elin NPC in TES5edit and they both correctly show the bunny ears/tail were assigned to Elin hair #06B. What's more, RaceMenu is showing that the hairs (HeadParts) records are from ElinRace.esm; those hair records are from ElinRaceTaint.esm.
PsychoMachina Posted April 21, 2014 Author Posted April 21, 2014 esta es mi elin jeje  ScreenShot8.jpg   ScreenShot10.jpg  Nice and I see you like the Hunting Grounds outfit which is one of my favorites.  That reminds me, little Rin needs some clothes.
PsychoMachina Posted April 21, 2014 Author Posted April 21, 2014 Need Testers.  Extract and manually install. Unofficial Update-Elin MasterFiles+Elin NPC_v1.2014.04.21.7z  I need someone to test changes I made to the Race Forms and the Elin NPCs. If all works as intended, they will be included with the next update. Added Elin Race Child and Elin Race Child Vampire. Both are non-playable. Changed the race of the children and certain Elin NPCs to ElinRaceChild and ElinRaceChildVampire (Babette). Purpose is prevent them from cycling through any adult animations which causes them to rescale and become stuck at the adult scale. Elin NPCs affected are located in Whiterun, Bard's College, and College of Winterhold. Let me know if they stop clipping through furnitures and stop scaling to adult heights. Remember not all Elin NPCs were changed. Guards, hunters, Imperials, Stormcloaks, and Elins that replace adult vanilla characters will not be affected so they will show furniture clipping and maybe rescaling.  I'll probably change all of them to the Elin Child form.  I'll make the same edits for the Hearthfires children and upload them later today. Â
shadomwsoul Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Need Testers.  Extract and manually install. Unofficial Update-Elin MasterFiles+Elin NPC_v1.2014.04.21.7z  I need someone to test changes I made to the Race Forms and the Elin NPCs. If all works as intended, they will be included with the next update. Added Elin Race Child and Elin Race Child Vampire. Both are non-playable. Changed the race of the children and certain Elin NPCs to ElinRaceChild and ElinRaceChildVampire (Babette). Purpose is prevent them from cycling through any adult animations which causes them to rescale and become stuck at the adult scale. Elin NPCs affected are located in Whiterun, Bard's College, and College of Winterhold. Let me know if they stop clipping through furnitures and stop scaling to adult heights. Remember not all Elin NPCs were changed. Guards, hunters, Imperials, Stormcloaks, and Elins that replace adult vanilla characters will not be affected so they will show furniture clipping and maybe rescaling.  I'll probably change all of them to the Elin Child form.  I'll make the same edits for the Hearthfires children and upload them later today. ya lo descargue, yo lo pruebo, luego subo fotos   Â
PsychoMachina Posted April 21, 2014 Author Posted April 21, 2014   Need Testers.  Extract and manually install. Unofficial Update-Elin MasterFiles+Elin NPC_v1.2014.04.21.7z  I need someone to test changes I made to the Race Forms and the Elin NPCs. If all works as intended, they will be included with the next update. Added Elin Race Child and Elin Race Child Vampire. Both are non-playable. Changed the race of the children and certain Elin NPCs to ElinRaceChild and ElinRaceChildVampire (Babette). Purpose is prevent them from cycling through any adult animations which causes them to rescale and become stuck at the adult scale. Elin NPCs affected are located in Whiterun, Bard's College, and College of Winterhold. Let me know if they stop clipping through furnitures and stop scaling to adult heights. Remember not all Elin NPCs were changed. Guards, hunters, Imperials, Stormcloaks, and Elins that replace adult vanilla characters will not be affected so they will show furniture clipping and maybe rescaling.  I'll probably change all of them to the Elin Child form.  I'll make the same edits for the Hearthfires children and upload them later today.   ya lo descargue, yo lo pruebo, luego subo fotos      When I complete the new summons spell, you'll have plenty of screenshots to upload.   Even though they're dressed like maids, I want to eventually make them Gothic Lolitas/Elin Reapers.  Â
PsychoMachina Posted April 21, 2014 Author Posted April 21, 2014 Need Testers.  Extract and manually install. Unofficial Update-Elin MasterFiles+Elin NPC_v1.2014.04.21.7z  I need someone to test changes I made to the Race Forms and the Elin NPCs. If all works as intended, they will be included with the next update. Added Elin Race Child and Elin Race Child Vampire. Both are non-playable. Changed the race of the children and certain Elin NPCs to ElinRaceChild and ElinRaceChildVampire (Babette). Purpose is prevent them from cycling through any adult animations which causes them to rescale and become stuck at the adult scale. Elin NPCs affected are located in Whiterun, Bard's College, and College of Winterhold. Let me know if they stop clipping through furnitures and stop scaling to adult heights. Remember not all Elin NPCs were changed. Guards, hunters, Imperials, Stormcloaks, and Elins that replace adult vanilla characters will not be affected so they will show furniture clipping and maybe rescaling.  I'll probably change all of them to the Elin Child form.  I'll make the same edits for the Hearthfires children and upload them later today.  Here are the Hearthfires Elin orphans. They are for testing purposes and since I started a new game for the purpose of working on the next update, I would like some feedback as to whether changing the orphan's RaceForm to ElinRaceChild has any positive results (or negative).  Requires the original files (from the DLC Additions): Hearthfires-Elin Orphans-Lucia+Sofie Hearhtfires-Elin Orphans-All Girls Option Extract and install manually. Overwrite the original plugins. Unofficial Update-Hearthfires Elin Orphans_v1.1.2014.04.21.7z  Â
BlackArk Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 groovetama's xp32 skeleton cause body proportion changes. Any chance of changing skeleton directory so it does not get overwritten? Â Or maybe instructions as to how I may do it myself?
PsychoMachina Posted April 22, 2014 Author Posted April 22, 2014 XPMS, whether xp32's or Groovtama's, installs the skeletons in the vanilla folders (character assets + character assets female). The Elin skeletons are located in their own folders (2chelin fix).Â
BlackArk Posted April 22, 2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Hmm... I must be missing a piece of the mod then because according to MO the Elin race skeleton is conflicting with xp32 and being overwritten. Thanks.
PsychoMachina Posted April 22, 2014 Author Posted April 22, 2014 That sounds like the 1st-person skeleton. The Elins share the 1st-person skeleton with the vanilla races so that is why MO is showing a conflict. There will not be any problems if one replaces the other since they are the same skeleton. However, the 1st-person camera fix I posted will cause problems with other races.  I'll see about making the Elins more standalone.  Â
PsychoMachina Posted April 26, 2014 Author Posted April 26, 2014 Well, I was testing Moonlight Tales and noticed Elin Aela was still buggy as ever after her first transformation. Maybe changing her into a Castanic would be a nice alternative.  In addition, I have noticed changing the Elin housecarl's race to Elin Race Child turns them into cowards during battles so that means I'll only change the children and certain npcs to Elin Race Child.  Â
melonny Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 My mannequin have darker skin body face .... Just plant is normal ..... I do not Screenshot.
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