Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[Miauzi]

Vor 26 Minuten sagte Wut1969:

Aufgrund dieser Sanguine-Idee begann ich nachzudenken; Wäre es nicht eine coole Idee, wenn @DeepBlueFrog Bimbos in seine Dibella-Suche integrieren würde? Die verdorbenen Schwestern könnten sich langsam in NPC-Bimbos verwandeln. Ich weiß nicht, ob das irgendwie zu DeepblueFrogs Idee für diesen Mod passen würde, aber ich persönlich denke, dass es großartig funktionieren könnte. Meine 2 Cent offensichtlich.

 

Und vielleicht würde es ja auch irgendwie in Devious Lore passen, vielleicht ist ja noch Platz für einen weiteren Lore-Monger? Ich mochte die alberneren Teile von Devious Lore (sehr). Obwohl ich nicht wirklich auf BDSM stehe, habe ich Devious Lore eine ganze Weile in meiner Modliste behalten, nur weil es so lustig war. War es lustig gemeint? Soll ich aufhören zu reden?

 

 

There are plenty of approaches to integrating both the "sisterhood" and the actual "Sanguine" mod.

Obviously the author is making good progress revising and updating his mods - making them better (safer) playable.

So I decided to incorporate the sisterhood mod into my current picture again - since I had planned an intensive interaction with the temple of Dibella anyway at the beginning (of the story to be told) - the search for the "oracle"

After meeting the "deadly" Serana (the Queen of Screams), the idea of ruining the Dibella Temple with her was just too obvious...
...especially since my own transformation into a chick is already underway.

I was planning on presenting the "Bimbo Chick" curse as a "gift" from Sanguine anyway... but it's coordinated with Dibella herself.

In my own Skyrim world, not only is Serana a bloody bitch - courting me romantically as a sighing waifu... no - also Dibella and Sanguine are a couple with an intense BDSM relationship... and so is the corruption of the temple A goal that BOTH work towards together.

But now the author of the "Sisterhood" has his own idea of how his corrupt sisters optically transform themselves...
...or to make it even more "crazy"... the chick curse (and turning into "blondes") is the (intended) side result of the "cleansing".

So either Sanguine moves into the temple of Dibella as a tenant - or all priestesses are drooling "blondes" with lust
You can do all this in your own roll-ply - whether both mod authors would like this idea...

another approach to chick curse and sanguine would be the mod where you enter your "dream world" and there you are made your "toy" by it... the search for the background of your "Alicia" obsession

well - but he's looking for a red-haired "slut" - if you want to pursue the idea of turning the player into an "Alicia" clone using the "chick" curse - the author of the bimbo mod has to use other hair colors and a create suitable make-up first

My own character doesn't go blond either and has pink lipstick and fingernails with the same scars ... as a gothic girl that doesn't fit at all - but that's just my own roll-play (just a note)

[foreveraloneguy]

I'd like to do a patch for BnP skin. Are the overlays used to build lyv's skins available? Or do I need to hunt them down and/or lift them from the existing skins?

[jib_buttkiss]

On 4/12/2023 at 8:19 PM, DrSeptimus said:

Just notice that statue have those bimbo dialogue as well... you might want to fix it.

 

Thanks for the heads up, I'll add it to the list.

 

9 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

I'd like to do a patch for BnP skin. Are the overlays used to build lyv's skins available? Or do I need to hunt them down and/or lift them from the existing skins?

 

Uhh... they're probably all available somewhere... But Lyvvi's skin is one of the first thing I did in the mod, over 6 months before I even posted it, so to be honest I can't remember what all the various overlays I used are. I didn't even note it down because at that point I wasn't even planning to release a proper mod. I vaguely remember maybe doing some fiddling with the textures though (but that might have been for something else?) so it's possible that you won't find them as is?

 

You could just use some other similar overlays for the BnP version. I mean, if you don't match them exactly it's not the end of the world. It's like a generic lewdmark and some cum overlays, nothing too groundbreaking. You could even leave off the nipple piercings since she gets proper physical ones equipped now, so there's no need for the drawn-on overlay ones.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

I think that once you complete Buttslut's quest and return her journal to her, she should change into heels and the pink microskirt, instead of tavern clothes and boots.  So as to better celebrate her role as Sanguine's Ambassador of Sodomy. 

[foreveraloneguy]

6 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Thanks for the heads up, I'll add it to the list.

 

 

Uhh... they're probably all available somewhere... But Lyvvi's skin is one of the first thing I did in the mod, over 6 months before I even posted it, so to be honest I can't remember what all the various overlays I used are. I didn't even note it down because at that point I wasn't even planning to release a proper mod. I vaguely remember maybe doing some fiddling with the textures though (but that might have been for something else?) so it's possible that you won't find them as is?

 

You could just use some other similar overlays for the BnP version. I mean, if you don't match them exactly it's not the end of the world. It's like a generic lewdmark and some cum overlays, nothing too groundbreaking. You could even leave off the nipple piercings since she gets proper physical ones equipped now, so there's no need for the drawn-on overlay ones.

 

OK. I lifted them off the existing skin. It didn't come out perfect, but I guess it looks good enough for me.  It's not like I spend hours gazing at that NPC.

[TheLoverLabCriminal]

how do u slowly curse someone into a bimbo ?

 

[ebbluminous]

24 minutes ago, TheLoverLabCriminal said:

how do u slowly curse someone into a bimbo ?

 

By reading the mod description...

[Balgin]

16 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

By reading the mod description...

But Bimbos can't read!

[ebbluminous]

16 minutes ago, Balgin said:

But Bimbos can't read!

Tru dat!

[Nopeman777]

Hey one more idea that came to me that you may or may not want to include based on your preference is for there to be an option for futa based dialogs and bimbo thoughts or something that makes it to were the references to cocks are not all male. 

[vocal]

On 4/1/2023 at 12:55 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

 

Oh, I forgot about that mod. It's such a perfect fit that I'm temped to ditch adding the feature and just say "Go download this mod"...

 

Just a little adendum to this. Unless i remember it wrong, the love sickness mod effects only happens/has a chance to happen when a male orgasms inside a female.
Unless it was changed recently, there's currently no mods that i know of that makes you lose skills when the PC orgasms, which i feel would be more appropriate in the context of bimbos.

 

Succubus skill loss has that, but only for agressive/rape scenes, it dosn't work for consensual scenes, which is a bit of a bummer.
 

The closer mod i can think of, is whorecrux, which does actively punishes you for orgasming and makes it very easier to lose skills/go down a sex dependency spiral.

It's usually the one i use when i try to simulate a "fuck your brains out" kind of situation, sadly it's still unfinished so some settings are kinda hard to configure.

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by vocal

[Wut1969]

9 hours ago, vocal said:

 

Just a little adendum to this. Unless i remember it wrong, the love sickness mod effects only happens/has a chance to happen when a male orgasms inside a female.
Unless it was changed recently, there's currently no mods that i know of that makes you lose skills when the PC orgasms, which i feel would be more appropriate in the context of bimbos.

 

I am not 100% certain, as my PC tries to avoid having sex/turning into a Bimbo, but I think Love Sickness responds on female orgasms. My PC has been raped a dozen times and the only time Love Sickness kicked in was when she orgasmed. Could be coincidence though.

[jib_buttkiss]

On 4/15/2023 at 12:46 AM, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I think that once you complete Buttslut's quest and return her journal to her, she should change into heels and the pink microskirt, instead of tavern clothes and boots.  So as to better celebrate her role as Sanguine's Ambassador of Sodomy. 

 

Nice idea, I like it.  A nice bra, some high heels and a real short microskirt would suit her nicely...

 

On 4/15/2023 at 7:34 AM, foreveraloneguy said:

 

OK. I lifted them off the existing skin. It didn't come out perfect, but I guess it looks good enough for me.  It's not like I spend hours gazing at that NPC.

 

You should post the conversion here when you're done if you want to, in case anyone else needs it.

 

On 4/16/2023 at 11:32 AM, Nopeman777 said:

Hey one more idea that came to me that you may or may not want to include based on your preference is for there to be an option for futa based dialogs and bimbo thoughts or something that makes it to were the references to cocks are not all male. 

 

Probably not, just because that's really not my kind of thing. If you have creation kit you could pretty easily edit the bimboThoughtsGen file yourself to include that though.

 

On 4/16/2023 at 2:12 PM, vocal said:

 

Just a little adendum to this. Unless i remember it wrong, the love sickness mod effects only happens/has a chance to happen when a male orgasms inside a female.
Unless it was changed recently, there's currently no mods that i know of that makes you lose skills when the PC orgasms, which i feel would be more appropriate in the context of bimbos.

 

Succubus skill loss has that, but only for agressive/rape scenes, it dosn't work for consensual scenes, which is a bit of a bummer.
 

The closer mod i can think of, is whorecrux, which does actively punishes you for orgasming and makes it very easier to lose skills/go down a sex dependency spiral.

It's usually the one i use when i try to simulate a "fuck your brains out" kind of situation, sadly it's still unfinished so some settings are kinda hard to configure.

 

 

Hmm... I'll look into how tricky skill loss is to implement. Those mods do implement the concept, but always under conditions or chances of triggering. I think it'd be good to have "bimbo sex=get dumber" with no catches and no avoiding it. Hopefully implementing skill loss isn't too bad.

 

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Hmm... I'll look into how tricky skill loss is to implement. Those mods do implement the concept, but always under conditions or chances of triggering. I think it'd be good to have "bimbo sex=get dumber" with no catches and no avoiding it. Hopefully implementing skill loss isn't too bad.

 

I'd be very cautious with skill loss because it could allow infinite levelling exploits. Skill penalties, on the other hand, could prevent it from going higher.

[reed7774]

Why doesn't bimbo have enlarged lips? Should such changes be added?

[Code Serpent]

2 minutes ago, reed7774 said:

Why doesn't bimbo have enlarged lips? Should such changes be added?

Dynamic head/face meshes are really hard to do and are a compatibility nightmare.

 

However, my mod Corruption causes enlarged lips from one of the addictions, and I'm going to be integrating some support there so your character's lips will get enlarged during the bimbo curse of this mod. The head meshes I use will also be open permissions so jib could use them for this mod's bimbo npcs.

[Code Serpent]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Hmm... I'll look into how tricky skill loss is to implement. Those mods do implement the concept, but always under conditions or chances of triggering. I think it'd be good to have "bimbo sex=get dumber" with no catches and no avoiding it. Hopefully implementing skill loss isn't too bad.

It might be better to keep skill level decreases to debuffs, and instead just eliminate or reduce experience towards the next level of a skill like Vanilla does during jail.

 

Also, you can reduce the headache of conditions and multiple ranks of a spell by using Perks. If you add a perk to the player and add several "Mod Incoming Spell Magnitude" entries, set it to only affect a base "Bimbo Skill Debuff" spell, and set each entry to multiply the effect by some value, you can have one debuff spell that you remove and reapply whenever the player is supposed to get dumber.

Edited April 19, 2023 by Code Serpent

[Wut1969]

11 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Hmm... I'll look into how tricky skill loss is to implement. Those mods do implement the concept, but always under conditions or chances of triggering. I think it'd be good to have "bimbo sex=get dumber" with no catches and no avoiding it. Hopefully implementing skill loss isn't too bad.

 

Lowering skills, not reall loss, and other Bimbo behaviorisms can be provided by using Sexlab Disparity together with Bimbos. Disparity does have a steep learning curve, but if you grant me permission, I can write a nice HOWTO here. If not, people just have to send me a PM.

 

[awire]

I am on SkyrimVR and your mod worked fine on 1.5, but 1.5.2 i CTD on load (i can start a new save on 1.5.2 without ctd, but can't load it either). Reverting to 1.5 allows it to load again. Any ideas ?
 

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    [RSP+5AB0] 0x23C11881620      (BSScript::Internal::CodeTasklet*)
        Stack Trace: 
[None].ConsoleUtil.PrintMessage() - "<native>" Line ?
[CC_SexEventTracker (5C35A170)].CC_SexEventsScript.CC_SaveGameLoad() - "cc_sexeventsscript.psc" Line 0
[alias PlayerRef on quest CC_SexEventTracker (5C35A170)].CC_OnGameLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "cc_ongameloadscript.psc" Line 0
 

 

[terrorofmorrowind]

Do the outfits work on SE? I noticed there's an update of the main mod for LE but the SE version didn't seem to have gotten an update.

[hadesjackson44]

Could I get some help with installing via mod manager?  Several of the required mods dont have a version I can find for se, and I couldn't get the mod to show up even when cutting out stuff that didn't work.  

[jib_buttkiss]

On 4/19/2023 at 11:07 AM, Code Serpent said:

It might be better to keep skill level decreases to debuffs, and instead just eliminate or reduce experience towards the next level of a skill like Vanilla does during jail.

 

Also, you can reduce the headache of conditions and multiple ranks of a spell by using Perks. If you add a perk to the player and add several "Mod Incoming Spell Magnitude" entries, set it to only affect a base "Bimbo Skill Debuff" spell, and set each entry to multiply the effect by some value, you can have one debuff spell that you remove and reapply whenever the player is supposed to get dumber.

 

Oh, interesting. I could replace the skill debuff magic effects that a bimbo is given with perks, and then increase the perk ranks on sex, making the debuff stronger every time. Useful.

 

17 hours ago, awire said:

I am on SkyrimVR and your mod worked fine on 1.5, but 1.5.2 i CTD on load (i can start a new save on 1.5.2 without ctd, but can't load it either). Reverting to 1.5 allows it to load again. Any ideas ?
 

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    [RSP+5AB0] 0x23C11881620      (BSScript::Internal::CodeTasklet*)
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[None].ConsoleUtil.PrintMessage() - "<native>" Line ?
[CC_SexEventTracker (5C35A170)].CC_SexEventsScript.CC_SaveGameLoad() - "cc_sexeventsscript.psc" Line 0
[alias PlayerRef on quest CC_SexEventTracker (5C35A170)].CC_OnGameLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "cc_ongameloadscript.psc" Line 0
 

 

 

No clue really, but I've tried reverting the only change to that script that happened from 1.5.0 to 1.5.2. I'm kind of flying blind here because I'm pretty sure that's one of the changes @botticelli did, and I don't know the actual reason for making the change (it's probably better practice this way, I just don't know why) .

 

Try replacing the .esp and CC_OnGameLoadScript with these ones and let's see what happens.

BoS 1.5.VRloadTest.zip

 

It might not be the problem at all, but let's see.

 

12 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

Do the outfits work on SE? I noticed there's an update of the main mod for LE but the SE version didn't seem to have gotten an update.

 

Yes, the SE 1.5 patch is for all 1.5.x versions. The SE patch is just optimised models & textures with no script changes, so it only needs updating on major versions (eg 1.4>1.5)

 

7 hours ago, hadesjackson44 said:

Could I get some help with installing via mod manager?  Several of the required mods dont have a version I can find for se, and I couldn't get the mod to show up even when cutting out stuff that didn't work.  

 

A mod manager install should be same as any mod- just plonk it in. All the required and recommended mods have SE versions around somewhere (or are the same between LE/SE, maybe).

 

...what do you mean "cutting out stuff that didn't work"? Odds are that there's something relying on whatever you're cutting, and that's causing issues.

Edited April 21, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[awire]

5 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

 

Try replacing the .esp and CC_OnGameLoadScript with these ones and let's see what happens.

BoS 1.5.VRloadTest.zip 200.69 kB · 2 downloads

 

that helped, works now

[terrorofmorrowind]

I still have the problem with sex initiation events where the "victim" plays the role of the male in the animation.
It happens with the sex initiation dialogue under the second "page" of the hypnosis dialogue and the dialogue of custom npc's added by this mod. However the dialogue of bimbofied npc's does work correctly. I hope it's clear enough. I first thought it was an issue with le scripts working on SE but since one of them does work correctly, it seems to be caused by something different. I will try making pics of the dialogues in question once I get the game running again.

Edited April 21, 2023 by terrorofmorrowind

[jib_buttkiss]

3 hours ago, awire said:

that helped, works now

 

Ok, that's good to know at least. Thanks for trying that. I'll have to message Botticelli and see if there's a reason he changed it, or if it was just a code style thing.

 

Oh, just in case it comes up: that esp is actually my WIP 1.6 version, so if you talk to Lyli Battleborn she'll have dialog for a quest that can't start yet. Don't worry about it if you come across that.

 

45 minutes ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

I still have the problem with sex initiation events where the "victim" plays the role of the male in the animation.
It happens with the sex initiation dialogue under the second "page" of the hypnosis dialogue and the dialogue of custom npc's added by this mod. However the dialogue of bimbofied npc's does work correctly. I hope it's clear enough. I first thought it was an issue with le scripts working on SE but since one of them does work correctly, it seems to be caused by something different. I will try making pics of the dialogues in question once I get the game running again.

 

Oh don't worry, I know the issue it's caused by. It's not SE or anything, it's just me. I'm the issue. Half the time that I call the sex trigger code I get the parameters backwards and then forget to check it. Just let me know about any backwards ones you come across and I'll fix them.

It's helpful if you can tell me the exact line of dialogue (or something close, at least) and who said it, so I know which line's script to go to and fix.