Commonwealth Slavers

[JB.]

2 hours ago, Jarnin said:

 

• This is weird. I have a save created just after the junkie timer went off and Fuckmeat automatically took a hit of jet.
• Since I couldn't turn off Junkie mode in the MCM, I doubled the timer (6 hour to 12 hours).
• After the first scene (Mutant hound), Fuckmeat took a hit of jet but did not CTD.
• After the scene with Blast on the table, Fuckmeat took another hit of jet and I crashed again.

I've finally gotten her to stop consuming jet when she's imprisoned or in the middle of a dialogue scene. A craving event triggered on my character when she was in the pillory waiting for a beast, breaking the pillory pose. With a new condition I can correct this.

 

But from what I understand, some of your CTD was because the girl was craving just before/after an AAF scene? Because if so, we're screwed. I would have to remove the craving event because at some point a craving is going to coincide with the start of an AAF scene, causing CTD.

[osculim]

46 minutes ago, JB. said:

I see. Looks like it ran a Real Handcuffs script to get your handcuffs off.

 

Can you check if my mod has higher priority than Real Handcuffs? That would explain a few CTDs because now that I think about it all the CTDs in the porn studio ( @Jarnin and @osculim ) could also be due to that (they go to point X and my mod uncuffs them).

Now that you mention handcuff issues. I have noticed a few messages during the porn studio about handcuffs giving errors. If i remember correctly one was something like "error removing non-existant handcuffs from Ivana re-applying". Something along that lines. Never thought that was a big deal. 

 

Please don't remove the craving thing completely make it a option which we can turn on and off. I haven't had one issue with the craving interfering yet. eventho it happened litterally everytime just before the dog animation kicked in after sleeping in the whorehouse. I really like that aspect. Give it a slider so we can set the amount of time it takes to get another craving would be awesome. That way they can avoid situations like this. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by osculim

[Jarnin]

30 minutes ago, JB. said:

I've finally gotten her to stop consuming jet when she's imprisoned or in the middle of a dialogue scene. A craving event triggered on my character when she was in the pillory waiting for a beast, breaking the pillory pose. With a new condition I can correct this.

 

But from what I understand, some of your CTD was because the girl was craving just before/after an AAF scene? Because if so, we're screwed. I would have to remove the craving event because at some point a craving is going to coincide with the start of an AAF scene, causing CTD.

 

I think I might have an idea of what's happening. I have that smokable cigarettes mod that performs a smoking animation when you click a cigarette in your inventory. This animation, like the jet inhaler animation, locks the player's controls and drops the UI. While the animation is playing (~12 seconds or so) I can't do anything but watch my character smoke. If I open the pip-boy, it breaks the animation and I can do things.

Here's where it gets weird: I might be sneaking around and I use a cigarette; I do not get the smoking animation and I can continue sneaking around. However, the cigarette lighting/smoking animation will play as soon as I stand up from sneaking posture, even if it's like five minutes later and the smoking buff wore off minutes before.

 

So, what I think is happening: During an AAF scene auto-junkie is firing off, but because the AAF scene is in progress that jet inhaler animation is getting queued until after the current AAF animation is finished playing. That's why, as soon as the AAF animation is complete my character is hitting the jet.

As for the crash to desktop: Those scenes in The Porn Studio are all on auto-pilot; as soon as you talk to Holt in the studio room; you have no control over your character's movements until after the fifth(?) sex scene. What happens if an AAF sex scene tries to start and the character is in the middle of a locked animation? In my case it's not getting queued, and instead causing me to crash.

 

Disclaimer: I am not a modder. This is my opinion of what is happening based on past observations.

 

EDIT: JB, did you fix the jet animation fire off twice in a row when slavers' jet is consumed? That may also contribute to this issue.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Jarnin

[JB.]

I am going to call this new version as 1.6.1B because the only thing I did was to clean the plugin with an automatic tool. It could be a cause of CTD.

[Slorm]

Update @JB.

 

Luckily I kept all the saves with Sexual Harassment in place, so I tested those with v1.5.9B and again I had no ctd's, so it's clearly an issue with 1.6.1. I'll grab 1.6.0 and test and update in a few minutes

 

EDIT: lol I was ninja'd I'll test both

Edited July 1, 2023 by Slorm

[osculim]

4 minutes ago, Jarnin said:

 

I think I might have an idea of what's happening. I have that smokable cigarettes mod that performs a smoking animation when you click a cigarette in your inventory. This animation, like the jet inhaler animation, locks the player's controls and drops the UI. While the animation is playing (~12 seconds or so) I can't do anything but watch my character smoke. If I open the pip-boy, it breaks the animation and I can do things.

Here's where it gets weird: I might be sneaking around and I use a cigarette; I do not get the smoking animation and I can continue sneaking around. However, the cigarette lighting/smoking animation will play as soon as I stand up from sneaking posture, even if it's like five minutes later and the smoking buff wore off minutes before.

 

So, what I think is happening: During an AAF scene auto-junkie is firing off, but because the AAF scene is in progress that jet inhaler animation is getting queued until after the current AAF animation is finished playing. That's why, as soon as the AAF animation is complete my character is hitting the jet.

As for the crash to desktop: Those scenes in The Porn Studio are all on auto-pilot; as soon as you talk to Holt in the studio room; you have no control over your character's movements until after the fifth(?) sex scene. What happens if an AAF sex scene tries to start and the character is in the middle of a locked animation? In my case it's not getting queued, and instead causing me to crash.

 

Disclaimer: I am not a modder. This is my opinion of what is happening based on past observations.

The thing with the porn studio is the freezes and crashes we experienced there started a version or two before the jet withdrawel and auto use animations I asked for was implemented. Last weekend we struggled for hours firguring out what was causing it. I think JB is on to something with the handcuff thing. As I mentioned Ive seen a few handcuff errors in there.

[osculim]

7 minutes ago, Slorm said:

Update @JB.

 

Luckily I kept all the saves with Sexual Harassment in place, so I tested those with v1.5.9B and again I had no ctd's, so it's clearly an issue with 1.6.1. I'll grab 1.6.0 and test and update in a few minutes

 

EDIT: lol I was ninja'd I'll test both

Tested 1.6.0 skipped mission no issue no ctd for me. As for harassment. I only removed it for the porn studio. That seems to go much better without harassment installed. Don't think we had issues with it anywhere else. Except for me I never had one of those events trigger in the whorehouse.

[Slorm]

14 minutes ago, JB. said:

I am going to call this new version as 1.6.1B because the only thing I did was to clean the plugin with an automatic tool. It could be a cause of CTD.

 Still ctd'ing I'm afraid (both locations).

 

I couldn't test 1.6.0 as it's no longer on the site. Something somewhere must have changed between between 1.5.9B and 1.6.1, it can't be other mods otherwise the results would not be so consistent.

 

I'm going to call it a night, I'll look further tomorrow (it's beer o clock time ?)

Edited July 1, 2023 by Slorm

[JB.]

4 minutes ago, Slorm said:

 

 

I'm going to call it a night, I'll look further tomorrow (it's beer o clock time ?)

Thanks for your help. Just remember that a buffout log will help me more than a script log. ?

[JB.]

Well, I've had a craving right before an AAF scene and it went really well. No CTD. 

 

 

@Jarnin Do you have Buffout installed? It always prints  a log after a CTD and usually points out the culprit.

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by JB.

[Slorm]

14 minutes ago, JB. said:

Thanks for your help. Just remember that a buffout log will help me more than a script log. ?

 

OCD attack lol, thanks for putting 1.6.0 back up

 

Just tested it and it works perfectly so the issue is with 1.6.1. I'm guessing here but it's not something to do with the new door edits is it?

[Jarnin]

50 minutes ago, JB. said:

@Jarnin Do you have Buffout installed? It always prints  a log after a CTD and usually points out the culprit.

 

Yessir!

crash-2023-07-01-17-37-14.log

[PIEs.]

Need help!
got stuck on the hooker mission in DC. (provbably a mod conflict)
I cant talk to Gristle... he is just leaning on the wall.

what is the command to progress to the next stage?

something like:
SetStage _CS_''quest name'' ''number''

[JB.]

53 minutes ago, Jarnin said:

 

Yessir!

crash-2023-07-01-17-37-14.log 45.96 kB · 4 downloads

The good thing is that my mod is not at fault for this specific CTD. But three culprits are pointed out:

 

1. It looks like two of the sex sounds on your patch are corrupted. Consider reinstalling the latest version of your patch. Every time that specific sound is played there will be CTD.
2. It also points to a problem with the nodes of your body. Specifically with the left breast. This usually goes hand in hand with the physics mod, but you have a very good system for it to be a performance issue. I don't really know why the log points that out, I have Fusion Girl and Zex like you. Ehhh, maybe the breasts are too big? In any case, consider rebuilding the body and make sure you don't have anything overriding Fusion Girl.

 

1. Lastly it points out a problem with a script object and it seems to be coming from AAF, so reconsider reinstalling it to the latest version and also install this. 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/25277-aaf-nativesync/

[JB.]

6 minutes ago, PIEs. said:

Need help!
got stuck on the hooker mission in DC. (provbably a mod conflict)
I cant talk to Gristle... he is just leaning on the wall.

what is the command to progress to the next stage?

something like:
SetStage _CS_''quest name'' ''number''

 

 

Read this, my man. And you will see how things begin to be solved not only in this mod, but with life itself.

[Jarnin]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

The good thing is that my mod is not at fault for this specific CTD. But three culprits are pointed out:

 

1. It looks like two of the sex sounds on your patch are corrupted. Consider reinstalling the latest version of your patch. Every time that specific sound is played there will be CTD.
2. It also points to a problem with the nodes of your body. Specifically with the left breast. This usually goes hand in hand with the physics mod, but you have a very good system for it to be a performance issue. I don't really know why the log points that out, I have Fusion Girl and Zex like you. Ehhh, maybe the breasts are too big? In any case, consider rebuilding the body and make sure you don't have anything overriding Fusion Girl.

 

1. Lastly it points out a problem with a script object and it seems to be coming from AAF, so reconsider reinstalling it to the latest version and also install this. 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/25277-aaf-nativesync/

 

1. The patch is automatically generated via script run through FO4Edit. If there's a corrupted sound file, I have no idea where it's coming from. I haven't installed most sounds in animations packs. The only sounds I wanted were from the NSFW Sound Pack mod, so many animations are completely quiet except for sound effects and orgasms.

 

2. I'm using OCBPC Physics, and the physics settings from MTM's patch. The collision balls are set to medium, so slightly smaller than my character's breast size. The only thing overwriting Fusion Girl is a skin texture and physics settings.

 

3. I'll look for an updated version of AAF. I was actually considering installing NativeSync before starting this save, but figured it'd just add another layer to troubleshoot. I'll install it too.

 

FYI: All of the mods I have installed are the recommended versions from the AAF Fucking Guide. It hasn't been updated since the end of February. Maybe we should put together an "Essential CS/NR Modding Guide" so you don't need to rely on someone else's guide being recently updated?

[vaultbait]

1 hour ago, Jarnin said:

All of the mods I have installed are the recommended versions from the AAF Fucking Guide. It hasn't been updated since the end of February.

 

The title says it says it was last updated on June 19, if that matters, and it appears to have also been edited as recently as last Tuesday. I suspect you're looking at the initially posted date which is the end of February... 2020.

[Jarnin]

12 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

The title says it says it was last updated on June 19, if that matters, and it appears to have also been edited as recently as last Tuesday. I suspect you're looking at the initially posted date which is the end of February... 2020.

Yep, I was.

[JB.]

3 hours ago, Jarnin said:

 

1. The patch is automatically generated via script run through FO4Edit. If there's a corrupted sound file, I have no idea where it's coming from. I haven't installed most sounds in animations packs. The only sounds I wanted were from the NSFW Sound Pack mod, so many animations are completely quiet except for sound effects and orgasms.

 

Is this one: 

 

DATA\SOUND\FX\SexSounds\Sexual_Noises\SlappingHard\SlappingHard05.wav

 

 

[Jarnin]

29 minutes ago, JB. said:

Is this one: 

 

DATA\SOUND\FX\SexSounds\Sexual_Noises\SlappingHard\SlappingHard05.wav

 

 

 

Found in: SavageCabbages Animation Pack\Sound\FX\SexSounds\Sexual_Noises\SlappingHard\SlappingHard05.wav

 

The file works in VLC. It sounds exactly as advertised ?

 

What should I do with it?

[JB.]

I have that one too so I don't know why it would be corrupted, but it's what the log pointed to. Delete it, the game better not play a corrupted sound. It's okay if it can't find it.

 

 

@osculim Write:

 

CQF _CS_Main DecreaseOrientation

 

It should lower your orientation by 1 point, so the script works. Maybe I should match it to Nuka Ride and drop it by 5 points?

 

 

 

 

[Jarnin]

I decided to start up a new character with a vanilla, fresh out of the vault save. Everything works fine for me until I get to the whore house, where I CTD trying to enter. This is the log for version 1.6.1.

 

I had a version of 1.6.0 sitting in my downloads tab, so I revert back to that. If I crash going into the whore house again, I'll post that log.

 

EDIT: No crash on 1.6.0. entering the whore house.

 

crash-2023-07-02-04-40-02.log

Edited July 2, 2023 by Jarnin

[osculim]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

I have that one too so I don't know why it would be corrupted, but it's what the log pointed to. Delete it, the game better not play a corrupted sound. It's okay if it can't find it.

 

 

@osculim Write:

 

CQF _CS_Main DecreaseOrientation

 

It should lower your orientation by 1 point, so the script works. Maybe I should match it to Nuka Ride and drop it by 5 points?

 

 

 

 

It does nothing let me just update to the latest version and test again.

[JB.]

20 minutes ago, Jarnin said:

I decided to start up a new character with a vanilla, fresh out of the vault save. Everything works fine for me until I get to the whore house, where I CTD trying to enter. This is the log for version 1.6.1.

 

I had a version of 1.6.0 sitting in my downloads tab, so I revert back to that. If I crash going into the whore house again, I'll post that log.

 

crash-2023-07-02-04-40-02.log 24.21 kB · 0 downloads

This is from my mod. It says that there was a problem with the geometry of my cell. 

 

I'm going to rebuild the precombines and geometry. Surely I forgot to include some nif.

Edited July 2, 2023 by JB.

[JB.]

@Jarnin Yep. It was a problem with my mod. I forgot to pack two new Whore House nifs... related to the fucking new curtain I added I guess.

 

1.6.1C on the way. 

 

I have also fixed this bug if you choose the submissive route when captured. ?

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

• This version includes three new options in the MCM for the music section.

1. Turn off music from any interior of my mod.
2. Start Slavers Radio
3. Start Minuteman Radio

• I took the curtain and put a column of bricks in the bathroom ?

 

Edited July 2, 2023 by JB.