Commonwealth Slavers

[osculim]

24 minutes ago, Jarnin said:

THE SCIENTIST (v1.60):

• Had to run all the way down to Coast Guard Pier in order to shack up with a mutant hound. Not as bad as the mirelurk hunter swim to Spectacle Island, but still quite a trip.
• I really like the second half of the job. The conversation between Gristle and Dr. Duff is a nice touch.
• I ended up with a deathclaw. The animation played on top of the pillory; is there a way to move it slightly away from the pillory to avoid clipping?
• Experience for completing the job seems low: I think I got 77xp.

MISCELLENOUS:

• As of 1.6 my junkie is playing the jet animation twice when she automatically hits the inhaler.

 

I also got the deathclaw the first time. Did it infront of the pillory for me. The drug thing I think it does it twice because the first one should simulate the withdrawel hitting you then the the jet use animation and then another one after taking the drug. also a little animation sometimes where she will scratch her arm or wiping her hands together. Typical things a junkie would do. That is how it is for me. Or does your junkie play the inhaler animation twice ?

[Jarnin]

1 hour ago, gegging said:

testing 1.6.0 new game

I'm unable to craft daddy-o even after acquiring the chemist perk by lindstrom.

 

Same. It's not appearing in the list of drugs available to craft. You can add one to your inventory by going into the console and typing:

 

player.additem 156D0B 1

 

 

45 minutes ago, osculim said:

I also got the deathclaw the first time. Did it infront of the pillory for me. The drug thing I think it does it twice because the first one should simulate the withdrawel hitting you then the the jet use animation and then another one after taking the drug. also a little animation sometimes where she will scratch her arm or wiping her hands together. Typical things a junkie would do. That is how it is for me. Or does your junkie play the inhaler animation twice ?

 

I'm getting the inhaler animation two times in a row.

 

 

THE PORN STUDIO:

• Experience gain is low. Only received 77 xp from completing the job.
• Snoopy appears at the studio after the player arrives and follows them back to the whore house, but doesn't leave the whore house with the player and follow them to the studio. Is Snoopy supposed to show up late?

 

WHORE HOUSE SERVICES:

• As mentioned above, Daddy-O isn't listed in the chem station. Can't make it if it's not listed ?
• After making 250 caps, the job says "Talk to Lindstrom", but interacting with him does not complete the job. He keeps saying the same line he does while the job is in progress ("Shake your ass, flirt like a whore. Don't hold back here.")

 

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Jarnin

[osculim]

1 hour ago, Jarnin said:

 

Same. It's not appearing in the list of drugs available to craft. You can add one to your inventory by going into the console and typing:

 

player.additem 156D0B 1

 

 

 

I'm getting the inhaler animation two times in a row.

 

 

THE PORN STUDIO:

• Experience gain is low. Only received 77 xp from completing the job.
• Snoopy appears at the studio after the player arrives and follows them back to the whore house, but doesn't leave the whore house with the player and follow them to the studio. Is Snoopy supposed to show up late?

 

WHORE HOUSE SERVICES:

• As mentioned above, Daddy-O isn't listed in the chem station. Can't make it if it's not listed ?
• After making 250 caps, the job says "Talk to Lindstrom", but interacting with him does not complete the job. He keeps saying the same line he does while the job is in progress ("Shake your ass, flirt like a whore. Don't hold back here.")

 

 

let me check the daddy-o think haven't done that in a while. Maby its only 1.60

 

Edit: Yep can confirm. My usual 2nd daddy-o option is MIA.  Just the greyed out one. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by osculim

[JB.]

1 hour ago, Jarnin said:

 

Same. It's not appearing in the list of drugs available to craft. You can add one to your inventory by going into the console and typing:

 

player.additem 156D0B 1

 

 

 

I'm getting the inhaler animation two times in a row.

 

 

THE PORN STUDIO:

• Experience gain is low. Only received 77 xp from completing the job.
• Snoopy appears at the studio after the player arrives and follows them back to the whore house, but doesn't leave the whore house with the player and follow them to the studio. Is Snoopy supposed to show up late?

 

WHORE HOUSE SERVICES:

• As mentioned above, Daddy-O isn't listed in the chem station. Can't make it if it's not listed ?
• After making 250 caps, the job says "Talk to Lindstrom", but interacting with him does not complete the job. He keeps saying the same line he does while the job is in progress ("Shake your ass, flirt like a whore. Don't hold back here.")

 

 

Okay, I was able to reproduce the bugs except for the Lindstrom one.

What stage are you in these two quests?

SQV _CS_Chores
SQV_CS_House

[osculim]

Two things the gap in the between the door and the wall bathroom in the whore house. And then this could just be me things might be borked. During orgasm asking to cum does not bring my submission down in attributes like before eventho it say Im getting more submissive.

[JB.]

9 minutes ago, osculim said:

Two things the gap in the between the door and the wall bathroom in the whore house. And then this could just be me things might be borked. During orgasm asking to cum does not bring my submission down in attributes like before eventho it say Im getting more submissive.

 

 

I remember fighting against that gap a lot, and when I thought I corrected it, the other side came out bad.

 

In the end I will resort to a curtain. ?

 

 

 

 

Asking permission to orgasm should increase submission.
The orgasm itself increases the sexual reputation.

 

At least it's how it's scripted, the truth is that I couldn't test it a while ago.

 

[JB.]

Version 1.6.1 should fix the latest reported bugs, except for the Lindstrom bug reported by Jarnin.

 

• Daddy-0 can once again be crafted for the services of the Whore House.
• I added a Mutant Hound of my own, fo The Scientist quest. It's in a fairly close area.
• Large beasts will have sex in front of the pillory, to avoid collision bugs.
• Fixed double animation when consuming Jet white craving. (Could not test it)
• I forgot to mention that in the previous update the clients should be sandboxing the whore house but a little better distributed.
• This update needs a save where The Scientist is not running, so that the new Hound can be correctly entered.

Edited July 1, 2023 by JB.

[osculim]

25 minutes ago, JB. said:

 

 

I remember fighting against that gap a lot, and when I thought I corrected it, the other side came out bad.

 

In the end I will resort to a curtain. ?

 

 

 

 

Asking permission to orgasm should increase submission.
The orgasm itself increases the sexual reputation.

 

At least it's how it's scripted, the truth is that I couldn't test it a while ago.

 

A curtain works lol. As for the submission thing that is how it used to work. Reputation works fine but not submission for some reason. On older versions it was fine. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by osculim

[Jarnin]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

Okay, I was able to reproduce the bugs except for the Lindstrom one.

What stage are you in these two quests?

SQV _CS_Chores
SQV_CS_House

Sorry, I reverted back (I'll create a specific save when I get stuck again).

 

29 minutes ago, JB. said:

Asking permission to orgasm should increase submission.
The orgasm itself increases the sexual reputation.

 

At least it's how it's scripted, the truth is that I couldn't test it a while ago.

 

I mentioned it before, but it might have been missed: Orgasms aren't supposed to increase sexual reputation in Sex Attributes. Having sex increases sex reputation, so it doesn't get applied until after the sex is done. By applying it after orgasm we're getting several chances at getting a lot of reputation.

 

Also: 

Spoiler

The current "bad" ending results in our protagonist basically being reset like none of this stuff happened. All of the markings and tattoos get removed. The junkie teeth and addictions are gone. Does the arm come back? Haven't gotten that far. But I seem to remember Gristle saying that nobody will remember what happened now that Fuckmeat doesn't look like Fuckmeat anymore the first time I finished this mod. Is there any ending to Commonwealth Slavers where commonwealth explicitly remembers the things that happen to the protagonist?

 

If not, it doesn't seem like sex reputation should matter at all during the story. Once the story is over, if the player wants to go whoring and start building up Sex Rep, that's their choice. I'm planning on taking Fuckmeat to Nuka-Ride soon, so building up Sex Rep there makes perfect sense, but not when she's this faceless piece of, well, fuckmeat.

 

Regarding the auto-junkie jet animation: It's firing off during AAF scenes. It didn't interfere with the AAF animation, but instead happens directly after a sex scene. In The Porn Studio it happened between scenes and it crashed me to desktop.

[osculim]

7 minutes ago, Jarnin said:

Regarding the auto-junkie jet animation: It's firing off during AAF scenes. It didn't interfere with the AAF animation, but instead happens directly after a sex scene. In The Porn Studio it happened between scenes and it crashed me to desktop.

Yeah that should be right as long as its not during the animation. I usually have it after I slept on the mattress as you select to train with the dog while loading the aff animation it usually kicks in but never during the actual animation. So I think we are golden when it comes to that.

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

I remember fighting against that gap a lot, and when I thought I corrected it, the other side came out bad.

There's a metal door that doesn't fit any door frame, looks like you found it. Or maybe it was a door frame..LOL

Also, turning off grid snap, highlight the door, hold Z, press the scroll wheel button (slows movement) and drag down (in this case). Even then it might no fit correctly, but at least a bit closer.

[Slorm]

Sex Level and Sex Reputation

 

Careful here with Sex Level and Sex Reputation they are two different things and looking through the thread there seems to be some confusion:

 

Sex Level (Addiction) - This is under SA Psychological and is generated by sex acts. At level 60 (from memory) the pc gets a slut designator which increases arousal and has a number of more serious debuffs

 

Sex Addiction is your character's addiction to sex. Once addicted, the player's arousal will increase much faster.

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How it is gained: Every consensual sex act will increase sex addiction level. When player's spirit is low, player's sex addiction level will increase even for non-consensual sex act. So it is possible for raiders to enslave you, break you, and turn you into a submissive slut!
How it is lost: Will slowly decay over time from not having sex

 

 Slut (Addicted to Sex): 0 ~ 100

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0  ~ 59.99    (Healthy)  : No buffs or debuffs
60 ~ 100      (Slut): - 4 Intelligence, 2x Sex reputation gain from being observed. -50% stats lost from being victim of sex assault (since the player kind of enjoys it), arousal increases by 2x, arousal no longer decreases during sleep

 

 

Sex Reputation - This is under SA Sex Reputations and is generated by being observed having sex and gossip about it. It also confusingly has a slut designator but its debuffs affect charisma and buying prices so not as onerous as the sex level version

 

Sex Reputation is how the people view the player sexually, regardless of whether or not the player really is how he/she is perceived

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How it is gained: When someone "eligible" observes the player having sex, the player's reputation will increase. The more people that observes, the more reputation will increase. "Eligible" NPCs are NPCs that are likely to gossip and spread the word about the player. Technically, it's any human that is not a raider, or gunner, or companion.
How it is lost: Will slowly decay over time, as people forget

 

Sexual Reputation: 0 ~ 100

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0  ~ 19.99    (None)  : No buffs or debuffs
20 ~ 39.99    (Naughty): +1% Buy price, -1% Sell price,
40 ~ 59.99    (Promiscuous)  : +5% Buy price, -5% Sell price,

60 ~ 79.99    (Prostitute)  : +10% Buy price, -10% Sell price, -10% Persuasion success chance

80 ~ 100       (Slut)  : +30% Buy price, -30% Sell price, -30% Persuasion success chance

 

 

 

[osculim]

49 minutes ago, Slorm said:

Sex Level and Sex Reputation

 

Careful here with Sex Level and Sex Reputation they are two different things and looking through the thread there seems to be some confusion:

 

Sex Level (Addiction) - This is under SA Psychological and is generated by sex acts. At level 60 (from memory) the pc gets a slut designator which increases arousal and has a number of more serious debuffs

 

Sex Addiction is your character's addiction to sex. Once addicted, the player's arousal will increase much faster.

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How it is gained: Every consensual sex act will increase sex addiction level. When player's spirit is low, player's sex addiction level will increase even for non-consensual sex act. So it is possible for raiders to enslave you, break you, and turn you into a submissive slut!
How it is lost: Will slowly decay over time from not having sex

 

 Slut (Addicted to Sex): 0 ~ 100

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0  ~ 59.99    (Healthy)  : No buffs or debuffs
60 ~ 100      (Slut): - 4 Intelligence, 2x Sex reputation gain from being observed. -50% stats lost from being victim of sex assault (since the player kind of enjoys it), arousal increases by 2x, arousal no longer decreases during sleep

 

 

Sex Reputation - This is under SA Sex Reputations and is generated by being observed having sex and gossip about it. It also confusingly has a slut designator but its debuffs affect charisma and buying prices so not as onerous as the sex level version

 

Sex Reputation is how the people view the player sexually, regardless of whether or not the player really is how he/she is perceived

  Reveal hidden contents

How it is gained: When someone "eligible" observes the player having sex, the player's reputation will increase. The more people that observes, the more reputation will increase. "Eligible" NPCs are NPCs that are likely to gossip and spread the word about the player. Technically, it's any human that is not a raider, or gunner, or companion.
How it is lost: Will slowly decay over time, as people forget

 

Sexual Reputation: 0 ~ 100

  Reveal hidden contents

0  ~ 19.99    (None)  : No buffs or debuffs
20 ~ 39.99    (Naughty): +1% Buy price, -1% Sell price,
40 ~ 59.99    (Promiscuous)  : +5% Buy price, -5% Sell price,

60 ~ 79.99    (Prostitute)  : +10% Buy price, -10% Sell price, -10% Persuasion success chance

80 ~ 100       (Slut)  : +30% Buy price, -30% Sell price, -30% Persuasion success chance

 

 

 

If I remember correctly JB mentioned in one of his posts something about having both increase. But for some reason sex level stays at 0. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by osculim

[JB.]

1 hour ago, Jarnin said:

 

 

Yeah all instances will reset in the end. In that context sexual reputation doesn't really matter so I'll take it out ?

[vaultbait]

1 hour ago, osculim said:

If I remember correctly JB mentioned in one of his posts something about having both increase. But for some reason sex level stays at 0. 

 

If your spirit is too high, sex level doesn't increase for rape/aggressive animations, only for consensual sex acts.

[izzyknows]

Ya'll seen the Papyrus extender Lighthouse? Seems like it might be pretty handy.

[vaultbait]

28 minutes ago, izzyknows said:

Ya'll seen the Papyrus extender Lighthouse? Seems like it might be pretty handy.

 

Oh wow! Skimming the function index I already see at least a dozen I wish I'd had when writing my existing mods.

 

I just wish there was some convenient solution for users so we could mix functions from libraries like LLFP, SUP F4SE, Baka Framework, Lighthouse, etc without creating a minefield of potential installation mistakes for them. The best solution I've got at this point is to interrogate F4SE any time a save is loaded and pop up an informative messagebox letting the user know what they missed (examples can be found in UC and MHK script sources), but if lots of mods adopt that approach the user will potentially get spammed with a bunch of redundant errors. Maybe we need yet another library which is simply a DLL and ESP checker that mods can register a list of requirements into (and yes, I know that's getting into https://xkcd.com/927/ territory).

[Slorm]

Bug Report v1.6.1

 

1/ Early on the way to Corvega where you get the choice to skip that part of the mission, if you choose to skip it the load screen starts then after a few seconds ctd's. Tested 3 times in a row with the same result. I've attached a log but I don't think it'll tell you anything useful

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

EDIT: Removing Sexual Harassment cures this CTD. Tested 3 time with and without SH, 3 ctd's with SH none without SH.  I don't follow why on earth SH should cause a ctd in the first place afaik it does alter any cells.

 

EDIT: Still getting the ctd here in a new game without

 

Sexual Harassment

Hardship

Bound in Public

Provocative Perks

 

So there's more to investigate as it doesn't make sense at present

 

 

2/ There are a lot of issues with Sex Attributes not updating. I've had quite a number of screen alerts saying I'm becoming more submissive but I still have the Dom +25 I started with. Sex Reputation and Sex Level are not updating at all either and Self Esteem (at a guess) only seems to have been affected by a rape and the following trauma

 

Here's a screenie and as can be seen only Self Esteem has been affected and Willpower has increased. From memory when I last used CS (the live version) self esteem and the sub/dom (Orientation) levels were affected correctly.

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Slorm

[osculim]

17 minutes ago, Slorm said:

Bug Report v1.6.1

 

1/ Early on the way to Corvega where you get the choice to skip that part of the mission, if you choose to skip it the load screen starts then after a few seconds ctd's. Tested 3 times in a row with the same result. I've attached a log but I don't think it'll tell you anything useful

 

Papyrus.0.log 12.18 kB · 0 downloads

 

 

2/ There are a lot of issues with Sex Attributes not updating. I've had quite a number of screen alerts saying I'm becoming more submissive but I still have the Dom +25 I started with. Sex Reputation and Sex Level are not updating at all either and Self Esteem (at a guess) only seems to have been affected by a rape and the following trauma

 

Here's a screenie and as can be seen only Self Esteem has been affected and Willpower has increased. From memory when I last used CS (the live version) self esteem and the sub/dom (Orientation) levels were affected correctly.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I had the same issue with the submission thing mentioned it a few posts back. It worked great few versions back. Think it all borked after the struggle with attribute perversion nonsense JB struggled with a version or two ago.

[Jarnin]

THE PORN STUDIO (v1.61)

• I'm crashing to desktop right after Blast bangs Fuckmeat on the table. As soon as the scene ends, Fuckmeat is playing the jet inhaler animations, then CTD.
• This time I waited until after the Junkie timer expired and Fuckmeat automatically hit the slavers' jet before talking to Holt. I assumed that, since there's supposed to be a six hour timer between hits that would allow me to get through the job without crashing; it did not work.
• I'm gonna turn off the junkie timer in the MCM and see if that lets me get through this job.

 

EDIT:

• This is weird. I have a save created just after the junkie timer went off and Fuckmeat automatically took a hit of jet.
• Since I couldn't turn off Junkie mode in the MCM, I doubled the timer (6 hour to 12 hours).
• After the first scene (Mutant hound), Fuckmeat took a hit of jet but did not CTD.
• After the scene with Blast on the table, Fuckmeat took another hit of jet and I crashed again.

Edited July 1, 2023 by Jarnin

[Slorm]

Bug Report v1.6.1

 

Getting a ctd after talking with Gristle and being moved into the Whore House. It makes no difference if Sexual Harassment is installed or not.

 

I also remove Bound in Public and Provocative Perks just in case but still getting a ctd.

 

I'm going to restart with a new save in which they've never been installed, just in case.

[osculim]

13 minutes ago, Slorm said:

Bug Report v1.6.1

 

Getting a ctd after talking with Gristle and being moved into the Whore House. It makes no difference if Sexual Harassment is installed or not.

 

I also remove Bound in Public and Provocative Perks just in case but still getting a ctd.

 

I'm going to restart with a new save in which they've never been installed, just in case.

I'm about to run a complete new character. Was your ctd at the start just after being captured ? So I can check.

[Slorm]

1 hour ago, osculim said:

I'm about to run a complete new character. Was your ctd at the start just after being captured ? So I can check.

 

I started afresh which a character without the following mods

 

Sexual Harrasment

Hardship

Bound in Public

Provocative Perks

 

I'm getting the ctd again if mission to Corvega skipped (just after leaving the Concord Speakeasy)

 

The second ctd was on the first time the pc is transported into the whore house

 

EDIT:

 

I still get the ctd when being sent to the whore house by Gristle so it's looking like Sexual Harassment was a red herring.

 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Slorm

[JB.]

2 hours ago, Slorm said:

Bug Report v1.6.1

 

1/ Early on the way to Corvega where you get the choice to skip that part of the mission, if you choose to skip it the load screen starts then after a few seconds ctd's. Tested 3 times in a row with the same result. I've attached a log but I don't think it'll tell you anything useful

 

Papyrus.0.log 12.18 kB · 0 downloads

 

EDIT: Removing Sexual Harassment cures this CTD. Tested 3 time with and without SH, 3 ctd's with SH none without SH.  I don't follow why on earth SH should cause a ctd in the first place afaik it does alter any cells.

 

EDIT: Still getting the ctd here in a new game without

 

Sexual Harassment

Hardship

Bound in Public

Provocative Perks

 

So there's more to investigate as it doesn't make sense at present

 

 

2/ There are a lot of issues with Sex Attributes not updating. I've had quite a number of screen alerts saying I'm becoming more submissive but I still have the Dom +25 I started with. Sex Reputation and Sex Level are not updating at all either and Self Esteem (at a guess) only seems to have been affected by a rape and the following trauma

 

Here's a screenie and as can be seen only Self Esteem has been affected and Willpower has increased. From memory when I last used CS (the live version) self esteem and the sub/dom (Orientation) levels were affected correctly.

 

  Hide contents

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see. Looks like it ran a Real Handcuffs script to get your handcuffs off.

 

Can you check if my mod has higher priority than Real Handcuffs? That would explain a few CTDs because now that I think about it all the CTDs in the porn studio ( @Jarnin and @osculim ) could also be due to that (they go to point X and my mod uncuffs them).

[Slorm]

14 minutes ago, JB. said:

I see. Looks like it ran a Real Handcuffs script to get your handcuffs off.

 

Can you check if my mod has higher priority than Real Handcuffs? That would explain a few CTDs because now that I think about it all the CTDs in the porn studio ( @Jarnin and @osculim ) could also be due to that (they go to point X and my mod uncuffs them).

Nailed it I think.

 

I went back to version 1.5.9B and had no ctd's so it looks like something in 1.6.1 is happening when the pc is transported to the X cross

 

To answer your question though, most tests were done with CS last in the load order so taking priority. I did try moving it up just behing Real Handcuffs but that made no difference