Shonrim Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Looking for this Goubo! One question... Will require a clean safe or just a simple update. I've had a weird bug sometimes with Defeat. When the assault scene start the aggressor stay idle forever. But I open the console I can see the name of the SL animation appearing on it. Then I close the console and everything goes as normal. This bug happened to me only after a framework update. Somebody has an clue about that? Whenever animation doesn't start (rare), I just press TAB to bring up the Items/map/etc menu and press TAB again to exit the menu. This triggers the animations to start for me. I have since installed the SKSE.INI that increases memory. Animations startup quicker it seems. Could be my mind playing tricks though.
Shonrim Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 So the mod works for me up until the actual sex starts, to which I CTD. I'm not entirely sure what to do. I tried cleaning up the mod but I don't know what I'm doing wrong or what causes it. For me, instant CTD at start of animation was because I had Belt-Fastened Quivers installed. The skeleton didn't like the animations forced upon it. Removing BFQ fixed FNIS big time. I'm using vanilla skeletons, and everything just works now.
Goubo Posted October 5, 2014 Author Posted October 5, 2014 As both werewolf and vampire lord, yes. (Although getting raped as a VL only happens when I'm testing as a male, since there don't seem to be any female VL anims.) I was just thinking that this might be because I've only used console to give myself the Beast Form and Vampire Lord powers, rather than acquiring them in regular play. Maybe the related quests adds a tag or something to the PC that just using console commands doesn't? The script checks if the quests are running, it might be the problem. Looking for this Goubo! One question... Will require a clean safe or just a simple update. I've had a weird bug sometimes with Defeat. When the assault scene start the aggressor stay idle forever. But I open the console I can see the name of the SL animation appearing on it. Then I close the console and everything goes as normal. This bug happened to me only after a framework update. Somebody has an clue about that? Something like that never happenned to me, I'm afraid I do not have an answer to that. Hello, I've been trying some Skyrim "testing" lately - to test out changes to Apropos, and I use Defeat. I'm a long time user of Defeat, so hats off to you Goubo. Great mod. Lately (today), I can't seem to get my followers (2) to get beyond the knock-down state. When i search my Papyrus log for instances of "Defeat:" I see a lot of N - Distance reached, Begin the rape. But they tend to pop up and walk around and the nearby aggressors ignoring them for a while. Any ideas? Too much Script pressure? Thanks Gooser, well I must say I don't really get what's wrong in your log, looks normal to me except it looks like the sex scene last 5 seconds and apparently nothing happen. But I notice you try this with wolves, does it work when a wolf is not involved? Oh and about what magicrealm is talking about (in a very nice way I must say ) it seems that controls are not given back to the player after a scene if the struggle bar is disabled, it's a simple oversight in the script that will be fixed next version, for now just bear with the bar to get up it's not that hard, is it?
Shonrim Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 The bar works perfect for me using the A/D keys. Don't mess with it. Ha ha.
Slorm Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Oh and about what magicrealm is talking about (in a very nice way I must say ) it seems that controls are not given back to the player after a scene if the struggle bar is disabled, it's a simple oversight in the script that will be fixed next version, for now just bear with the bar to get up it's not that hard, is it? I'm one of those that hate QTE's as a rule, but I have to say that it does work rather well in Defeat
Thorn14 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 So the mod works for me up until the actual sex starts, to which I CTD. I'm not entirely sure what to do. I tried cleaning up the mod but I don't know what I'm doing wrong or what causes it. For me, instant CTD at start of animation was because I had Belt-Fastened Quivers installed. The skeleton didn't like the animations forced upon it. Removing BFQ fixed FNIS big time. I'm using vanilla skeletons, and everything just works now. I don't have anything like that. Also animations work when I use Matchmaker. Just for Defeat. Hell the robbery system works too!
LTD Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I got a glitch where burning damage killed an enemy just as the scene was about to start, I think just as the bar popped up. I could act, move around and swing weapons/cast spells, but I couldn't interact at all. The "use E to interact" thing didn't even come up. Clean up fixed it no problem and everything was fine after that. I just figured you might want to know, Goubo, so reporting it!
jianshi051 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 wonderful， very glad to see you will update this mod~~
Vuulgar Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 This is easily one of the most used mods for me but the last few games I have used it I am not getting consistent triggers, sometimes i get knocked down but usually I am dying. Whether its by health, stamina from behind or large weapon stuns. I have used 3.3fixed for a while and my problem has only showed recently. The last new game I started had nothing more than sexlab and this with creatures support. After a clean install didnt work I am not even sure what to try at this point.... EDIT I did a clean save and moved Defeat very close to the bottom of my load order and so far every save I do this with seems to work.
evlokadottr Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I had old versions but Steam insisted on installing some new version of Skyrim, and then I had to install a new version of everything else. My problem is that now, as soon as I go in to the menu to mess with the mod in a new game, it starts off as "deactivated." I have to activate it and tell it to install, and exit out of the menu. As soon as it is installed, my character is stuck in place, I guess bobbing up and down, like maybe running in place. :/ I can't figure out why! *edit* Ohhhhh heh, don't activate it before your hands are unbound! Hopefully it will work fine from here on out. *edit 2* sadly I cannot seem to use weapons or spells.
LeeRockU Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Can someone help me with this. No animations will happen even though is says it is in the skse view window. In attempting to attach a pic but is unable so I'll describe it. My character is standing in front of the NPC. Both are in the same stance. This would happen for minutes until I guess the animation is over. No sound of the rape happens either.
WaxenFigure Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Can someone help me with this. No animations will happen even though is says it is in the skse view window. In attempting to attach a pic but is unable so I'll describe it. My character is standing in front of the NPC. Both are in the same stance. This would happen for minutes until I guess the animation is over. No sound of the rape happens either. You installed FNIS right? You have fallen into the single most common error in Skyrim modding, you failed to run the FNIS User Generator Program after adding or removing a mod containing new animations. The FNIS documentation warns you to run the program but everyone seems to forget that bit.
blahthis17 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Ive been having an issue with followers being knocked down. It says in your MCM that they are only suppose to be knocked down for 30 sec but it was happening for me that they wouldnt get up until I finished combat no matter how long that took. I think though I have gotten it to work properly by disabling DAYMOYL follower tracking. I havent tested it a lot but the last battle I was in they finally got up part way through the battle and came to help me.
afa Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 DA makes it so that followers once knocked down won't get back up until combat is finish. You can sort of force (bug?) them to get back up by keep healing them with magic. (they will fall down again, so you have to do it a few times)
Shonrim Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Can someone help me with this. No animations will happen even though is says it is in the skse view window. In attempting to attach a pic but is unable so I'll describe it. My character is standing in front of the NPC. Both are in the same stance. This would happen for minutes until I guess the animation is over. No sound of the rape happens either. FNIS does not know which animations to use probably. Or you have the wrong bodies installed for your animations. Press SPACEBAR about 4 times to speed through the animations.
Shonrim Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Ive been having an issue with followers being knocked down. It says in your MCM that they are only suppose to be knocked down for 30 sec but it was happening for me that they wouldnt get up until I finished combat no matter how long that took. I think though I have gotten it to work properly by disabling DAYMOYL follower tracking. I havent tested it a lot but the last battle I was in they finally got up part way through the battle and came to help me. Sometimes you have to appease them to get them to stand up. Or their stamina is completely gone. Also try healing them.
ltknight88 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 I love this mod because it adds another level of danger and suspense that you don't get with the vanilla Skyrim death. Getting robbed and then left for dead, or waking up in an inn is IMHO 100 times better than reloading the last quicksave. So thanks for this mod!! This is not a complaint, just something that happened in my game today that I thought was cool: So I'm playing the "Interesting NPC's mod, and there is this quest where I have to kill an evil wizard/necromancer. No problem. Well, I'm also playing with the Defeat mod. During the fight, the evil necromancer spawns a Dremora Lord, so now I'm out numbered. It is a fierce and tense and Epic battle. I get hit by a blast of ice storm, and then the Dremora hits me, and i go down. Dremora walks over to my character and starts pulling off her gear. (I have it set to Steal the weapons and Armor, because it is always fun to start over and gear up for a rematch.) So the Dremora gets my main weapon and most of my gear. It is looking bad for our hero! But then his time runs out and he dissipates - returning to the realms of Oblivion or where ever these demons go when they are not on Skyrim. But he takes my gear with him!! Fortunately for me, I was able to quickly summon a bound sword, and killed the evil wizard before he could conjure up any more nastiness... And I completed the quest. But it was a tense moment of "Oh snap!!" and then the hero won - but had to walk back out of the necromancer' base, wearing only the black robes that I pulled off one of the bad guys. No more high-smithed and enchanted gear until I could get back home and make a new set. Just thought that was awesome and wanted to share.
LeeRockU Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Can someone help me with this. No animations will happen even though is says it is in the skse view window. In attempting to attach a pic but is unable so I'll describe it. My character is standing in front of the NPC. Both are in the same stance. This would happen for minutes until I guess the animation is over. No sound of the rape happens either. FNIS does not know which animations to use probably. Or you have the wrong bodies installed for your animations. Press SPACEBAR about 4 times to speed through the animations. When I run FNIS it says, "No Gender directory Animations for male and female." Could that be the issue and if so what do I need to do?
WaxenFigure Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Can someone help me with this. No animations will happen even though is says it is in the skse view window. In attempting to attach a pic but is unable so I'll describe it. My character is standing in front of the NPC. Both are in the same stance. This would happen for minutes until I guess the animation is over. No sound of the rape happens either. FNIS does not know which animations to use probably. Or you have the wrong bodies installed for your animations. Press SPACEBAR about 4 times to speed through the animations. When I run FNIS it says, "No Gender directory Animations for male and female." Could that be the issue and if so what do I need to do? No it means you shouldn't have checked the "Gender Specific Animations" option in FNIS because you didn't install (or at least FNIS didn't find) the mod that requires that option to be checked. Turn that option off and you should be good. ALL of those options are only needed when the mod that requires them is installed.
LeeRockU Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Can someone help me with this. No animations will happen even though is says it is in the skse view window. In attempting to attach a pic but is unable so I'll describe it. My character is standing in front of the NPC. Both are in the same stance. This would happen for minutes until I guess the animation is over. No sound of the rape happens either. FNIS does not know which animations to use probably. Or you have the wrong bodies installed for your animations. Press SPACEBAR about 4 times to speed through the animations. When I run FNIS it says, "No Gender directory Animations for male and female." Could that be the issue and if so what do I need to do? No it means you shouldn't have checked the "Gender Specific Animations" option in FNIS because you didn't install (or at least FNIS didn't find) the mod that requires that option to be checked. Turn that option off and you should be good. ALL of those options are only needed when the mod that requires them is installed. But I only checked that to try to fix the problem. My characters are all stand but no deliver.
jlttsmiley Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Can someone help me with this. No animations will happen even though is says it is in the skse view window. In attempting to attach a pic but is unable so I'll describe it. My character is standing in front of the NPC. Both are in the same stance. This would happen for minutes until I guess the animation is over. No sound of the rape happens either. FNIS does not know which animations to use probably. Or you have the wrong bodies installed for your animations. Press SPACEBAR about 4 times to speed through the animations. When I run FNIS it says, "No Gender directory Animations for male and female." Could that be the issue and if so what do I need to do? No it means you shouldn't have checked the "Gender Specific Animations" option in FNIS because you didn't install (or at least FNIS didn't find) the mod that requires that option to be checked. Turn that option off and you should be good. ALL of those options are only needed when the mod that requires them is installed. But I only checked that to try to fix the problem. My characters are all stand but no deliver. Just asking ? You did check ANIMATION in SEXLAB FRAMEWORK ?
face commander Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 I have been using this mod for a while but now, the female followers won't get raped they are just standing on the ground for 30 sec, and then going back up. I have tried every combination for triggering the rape, (no transition , all down ). Other mods and animation are working fine (I am using random attack, aroused, romance, dangerous night, spectator crowd0.91 amurous Is there a mod that can be conflicting with that ? like spectators crowd ? Mods are sorted using LOOT Any hints ? ( for people having issues with followers on the ground on the posts above, hit the clean up in the option that usually fix it , even when follower are stuck to a location where a rape was supposed to happen but got interupted, hitting " clean " fix it)
Slorm Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 @Goubo Suggestion for next upgrade, could the time limit on robbed event have a slider so it can be set by the player. 3 days seems far too long for me personally so a facility to change it would be a nice addition to the mod. EDIT: If it could be done by hours rather than days then that would be perfect (say a range of 0 - 120 where 0 means the items are always lost) EDIT2: One of the things Deviously Helpless does is the bandits will spend some of your gold. If you had an hour timer then for each hour passing hour an equivalent amount of gold would be lost. For example, say you had the Robbed limit set to 24 hours and was robbed of 1000 gold.If it then took you 12 hours before you completed Robbed then you would only recover 500 gold. This would be because your attacker would have had the time to spend the gold, gamble it away etc.
WaxenFigure Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 ... But I only checked that to try to fix the problem. My characters are all stand but no deliver. Run FNIS again, place the cursor into the text box where the results display and select all of the text in that box, then copy it to the clipboard so you can paste that text in a message here. Preferably inside [ spoiler ] [ /spoiler ] tags since not everyone reading the messages cares to scroll past large bodies of text. Then we can see what errors FNIS is reporting that you seem to be missing. I have attached the results of running FNIS on my system so you can see what a good result looks like for comparison. FNIS Behavior V5.1.1 2014-10-11 6:24:36 PM Skyrim: 1.9.32.0 - c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim (Steam) Skeleton female: XPMS (229 bones) male: XPMS (242 bones) Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading FNIS V5.1.1 ... Reading FNISBase V5.1.1 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V5.1 ... Reading MNC V?.? ... Reading SexLab V1.59c ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.59c ... Reading SexLabDefeat V?.? ... Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V6.0.0 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 alternate animations) ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files ... Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading MNC V?.? ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.59c ... mt_behavior usage: 18.2 % ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 alternate animations) 1963 animations for 9 mods successfully included (character) 496 animations for 2 mods and 22 creatures successfully included.
WaxenFigure Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 I have been using this mod for a while but now, the female followers won't get raped they are just standing on the ground for 30 sec, and then going back up. I have tried every combination for triggering the rape, (no transition , all down ). Other mods and animation are working fine (I am using random attack, aroused, romance, dangerous night, spectator crowd0.91 amurous Is there a mod that can be conflicting with that ? like spectators crowd ? Mods are sorted using LOOT Any hints ? ( for people having issues with followers on the ground on the posts above, hit the clean up in the option that usually fix it , even when follower are stuck to a location where a rape was supposed to happen but got interupted, hitting " clean " fix it) Have you looked at your Papyrus logs to see what Sexlab and this mod are saying?
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